[Well, Happy 2023 everyone and we might as well start the new year off with a fresh sandbox. In the 19dec22 Sandbox Mr scenes offered an intriguing suggestion (830am) in an attempt to eliminate the detritus of TDS and things gratuitously Trump from continually contaminating practically every other topic with yet another boring lap around the Trump barn. He suggested that RR add a Trump category and restrict posting of Trump-centric comments to that category. I envision it being structured like the Sandbox with dated, and perhaps even topical, labels so that the comment streams don’t become too long. I need to noodle on this and invite readers’ ideas about how it would work. gjr]

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1,208 responses to “Sandbox – 1jan23”
Scott,
That’s taken from the -BI PARTISAN-,-REPUBLICAN-led -SENATE- inquiry led by Marco Rubio. You should look it up. Mueller report states the same.
They characterized Manafort as a “ grave counterintelligence intellence threat”.
And you have Manaforts word from “an outlet”
Sounds like some orange man worshipping going on over there.
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“Bill W” 250p
Manafort was working the campaign for a total of about 5 minutes. Never worked in the White House.
Look! A chicken!
Focus, BW.
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Bill W “Sounds like some orange man worshipping going on over there.”
Not one bit, dude. Just calling your BS.
You do sound like Paul Emery Jr.
The Russians didn’t affect the election one bit.
Manafort was fired by Trump.
The hoax has been exposed for months and you lefties are still quoting old, out of date reports where the authors had no idea of the perfidy of the FBI. The reports are based on a pack of lies cooked up by the Clinton crew and passed on to the FISA courts who were hoodwinked. This is all proven stuff. Try to get up to speed.
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Posted by: Scott O | 15 January 2023 at 03:19 PM
Not one bit, dude. Just calling your BS.
You do sound like Paul Emery Jr.
Well if it is psul sock puppeting someone must be shooting him up with same Biden Juice that they give Senile Joey before public appearances.
He sounds smug and superior not whiny and accusatory. I like it.
👍
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Psul is an ignorant asshole
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Scott O @ 2:08 pm
“I have yet to hear Bill W denounce child pornography.
ergo, Bill W is for child pornography.”
Beg to disagree with you Scott, but Bill W oke is for genital disfigurement of children and the permanent disfiguration of children, a violent abhorrent practice against children favored by the Woke. Ergo……
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I think it is mostly wishful thinking on Michael Godwin’s part.
‘End of an error of shielding the Bidens as classified documents scandal puts Joe’s presidency in peril’
Are the Walls closing in on Biden? Nah, just some media walls of protection of Joey Fingers.
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https://nypost.com/2023/01/14/classified-documents-scandal-puts-biden-presidency-in-peril/
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Get your words straight Jack!
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Gregory and Scott are choosing trump defense over a Republican led committee’s findings on Russian interference.
A clear illustration of their loyalties.
Bill still into the diddling of kiddie’s of course.
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‘A Mob Stormed a Feminist Event at McGill Law School—in Defence of Gender Justice, of Course’
Intended as an expression of trans rights, the fracas instead illustrated why many LGB feminists want to escape their ‘forced teaming’ with trans activists.
“I learned a new term this week: “Forced teaming.” It describes what happens when a group of people—say, gay men and lesbian women—are forbidden from breaking ranks with some larger constituency, such as (in this case) the LGBT movement.”
https://quillette.com/2023/01/12/feminists-tried-to-meet-at-mcgill-law-school-fortunately/
Women of the world unite. Do not loose your identity.
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He did it again!!
Biden falsely claims he fought apartheid, was in civil rights movement, in gaffe-filled MLK Day speech
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-biden-falsely-claims-he-fought-apartheid-was-in-civil-rights-movement-in-gaffe-filled-mlk-day-speech?utm_campaign=64487
I give you my word as a Biden
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Looks like I’m getting a new gig. CNN just made it official that they are the Comedy News Network.
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Bill W – “Gregory and Scott are choosing trump defense over a Republican led committee’s findings on Russian interference.”
Trump? Thought you were talking about Manafort.
Trump fired Manafort.
Manafort “gave” the Russians public info.
Manafort was convicted of lying, tax fraud and failing to register.
There is zero evidence Manafort helped the Russians in any way.
And the idea that Russian meddling did anything to change the outcome of the election is nothing more than hysterical grasping of straws that don’t even exist.
Meanwhile we find our govt agencies have illegally meddled and altered the outcome of our election and the lefties just shrug.
The only people worried about Trump and Q are the lefties – I couldn’t care less.
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Bill T 4:40 – Biden lied again? Why not?
He makes up BS all the time and tells lies that get people killed.
Have you seen a single post by Paul admitting that his perv hero is a liar?
His fan base loves him. They don’t care what he says. Paul admitted that if the Dems ran someone that wanted to emulate Adolf Hitler, he’d vote for him.
TDS is that strong.
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BT 4:40 – LOL!
Biden: “”And I had two heroes, Bobby Kennedy. I admired John Kennedy, but I could never picture him at my kitchen table. But I could Bobby and no malarkey, Dr. King, Dr. King,” Biden added.”
Yeah – Biden imagines Dr King would be at his table as his waiter.
He tells Dr King – “You better vote for me or you ain’t black”.
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“A clear illustration of their loyalties”
Just Truth, Justice and the American Way.
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Scott,
Internal campaign info is not the same as public info, that’s why it’s described differently.
Where are you getting this public info only story?
I don’t know how much it helped, to say it didn’t help at all is unsupported.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/512526-manafort-shared-campaign-info-with-russian-intelligence-officer/
Manafort was Trumps choice for campaign manager despite advice against doing so. To defend/minimize his role is defending his boss’s choice for campaign manager,
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Bill zW is yet to criticize child disfigurement, a practice preferred by the Woke. He (?) supports violence against children.
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Bill W – you need to read your own links.
““On numerous occasions over the course of his time on the Trump Campaign, Manafort sought to secretly share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik,” the committee wrote.”
That’s a very clear choice of words. It doesn’t say he did – just that he “sought to”.
There is no proof that anything Manafort or the Russians did swayed the election in any way.
And posting here that I ‘defended’ Trump’s hiring of Manafort is a lie.
If you feel you need to start lying to make a point, I think we’re done having a discussion.
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Soros-backed open borders group suing Ron DeSantis violates federal law
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/immigration/george-soros-backed-nonprofit-breaks-law-alianza-americas
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Progressives are ninnies.
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Now we see why the lefties are suddenly trying to focus on Manafort:
“Hunter Biden revealed in a 2019 text message to his daughter that the family has an arrangement where Joe Biden collects half his son’s salary.
“I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years,” Hunter described in texts to his daughter. “It’s really hard. But don’t worry, unlike Pop [Joe], I won’t make you give me half your salary.””
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2023/01/15/document-hunter-listed-49910-monthly-rent-payments-while-living-joe-bidens-residence/
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Hunter owes his old man big-time for bailing him out of all his fuckups.
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re HP 7:20 – It’s not over yet. I’m sure the “Big Guy” will issue a pardon for Hunter.
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Scott,
The treasury department asserted on 4/13/21 that Kilimnik and Manafort shared sensitive campaign and polling information with Russian intelligence services.
“Kilimnik worked closely with Trumps campaign manager Paul Manafort , even managing his firms office in Kiev. But the statement in a broader Treasury Departments sanction announcement was perhaps the most direct link the US government has ever drawn between the Trump campaigns inner workings and the Kremlins intelligence services.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/17/treasury-department-links-paul-mana fort-kilimnik-russian-intel/726790
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/17/treasury-department-links-paul-manafort-kilimnik-russian-intel/726790
That link at 7:35 wasn’t quite right.
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None of you are even remotely in Angelina Jolie’s league.
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Not sure why that last link wasn’t working. This link has a link within to the actual treasury dept press release.
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/paulmanafort-konstantinkilimnik-intelligence/2021/04/15/id/1017773/
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Scott @2:08 pm
Did you express support for the 160 assaulted police on 1/6 or something?
I’ve never heard a righty express support except for a handful of people, I’ve asked about it before.
You understand the reason it was said was because someone claimed “Blue Lives Matter”
What is it with you and Bill automatically thinking about naked children when you get upset.?
I hope you guys aren’t around children alone.
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“The treasury department asserted on 4/13/21 that Kilimnik and Manafort shared sensitive campaign and polling information with Russian intelligence services.”
Maybe that’s why Trump fired Manafort.
How did this affect the election?
Did you change your vote because of this?
Manafort was a bad actor and Trump fired him and then he was indicted and was convicted.
What happened to the lefts’ idiot claim that Trump was colluding with the Russians?
All BS.
Our own govt agencies were the ones that illegally affected the election.
I don’t care if it was against Trump or Bernie Sanders or Howdie Doodie. It was illegal.
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“I’ve never heard a righty express support except for a handful of people, I’ve asked about it before.”
LOL
“No one”
“Well – ‘cept for the ones that did”.
Which is it, moron?
It can’t be both, but logic seems to escape you.
“…when you get upset.?”
Well, I’m not upset, I just made an observation about you that we see you have avoided answering.
You just can’t seem to deny your little “problem”.
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I am calling for a complete and total shutdown of modern art until we can figure out what the hell is going on.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/01/loose-ends-202.php
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BLM: Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter BLM Blue Lives Matter BLM Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter BLM Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter BLM Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter Blue Lives Matter BLM
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Game over man, game over!
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BLM Blue Lives Matter. Blue Loves Matter. BLM Blue Lives Matter. Blue Loves Matter. BLM Blue Lives Matter. Blue Loves Matter. BLM Blue Lives Matter. Blue Loves Matter. BLM
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Let’s get on the same page here,
Claim: “I tell this story on occasion, very seldom, because it’s too sad to tell, but I tell this story because it’s very important. Russia, Russia, Russia was a hoax. It was developed by Hillary Clinton and a group of people, small group around a kitchen table, as a way of explaining why she lost an election that a lot of people thought she would win.”
Facts: This is revisionist history. The “hoax” that Trump colluded with the Russians was not “developed by Hillary Clinton and a group of people.”
Here are the facts: In July 2016, the FBI began investigating the Russian government’s attempt to influence the 2016 presidential election, including whether Trump’s campaign associates were involved in those efforts. As explained in the DOJ inspector general’s report in December 2019, the investigation of Trump’s campaign was triggered when a “Friendly Foreign Government,” an Australian diplomat, learned from George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, that the Russians had damaging information on Clinton.
“As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos ‘suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama),’” the report said. “The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, ‘this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.’”
The investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller resulted in 37 indictments or guilty pleas — including against 26 Russians and three Russian companies, as summarized by Vox. A redacted report written by Mueller’s office detailed how the Russians carried out an extensive social media campaign and targeted cyberattacks against Clinton and the Democratic Party committees to damage Clinton and help Trump.
The report, which was released April 18, 2019, said the investigation “established multiple links between Trump Campaign officials and individuals tied to the Russian government.” But the investigation “did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.” (Read our story “What the Mueller Report Says About Russian Contacts” for more information.)
In a second redacted report, investigators detailed multiple instances of Trump’s “obstructive acts” during the DOJ investigation. The report said that while the investigation “does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.” (Read our story “What the Mueller Report Says About Obstruction” for more information.)
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/09/trump-distorts-facts-in-pennsylvania-rally/
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You’ll be dancing with yourself.
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BLM = Blue Lives Matter
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HP 7:55 – That report came out before they knew most of the “facts” in the report were pure BS.
Now we know the that the FBI lied to the FISA court and that the FBI knowingly promoted a false narrative that was originally created by a group paid for by the Dems.
Try to stay up to date.
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Re-visiting Friedrich Hayek’s “The Road to Serfdom” (Mar ’44) Excerpts p52-55:
“That socialism can be put into practice only by methods of which most socialists disapprove, is a lesson learned by many social reformers in the past. The old socialist parties were inhibited by their democratic ideals; they did not possess the ruthlessness required for the performance of their chosen task….
It is characteristic that both in Germany and in Italy the success of fascism was preceded by the refusal of the socialist parties to take over the responsibilities of government. They were unwilling whole-heartedly to employ the methods to which they had pointed the way. They still hoped for the miracle of a majority’s agreeing on a particular plan for the organization of the whole of society.
If we wish to find a high degree of uniformity in outlook, we have to descend to the regions of lower moral and intellectual standards where the more primitive instincts prevail…. This does not mean that the majority of people have low moral standards; it merely means that the largest group of people whose values are very similar are the people with low standards.
It seems to be easier for people to agree on a negative programme – on the hatred of an enemy, on the envy of the better off – than on any positive task.
Collectivism means the end of truth. To make a totalitarian system function efficiently, it is not enough that everybody should be forced to work for the ends selected by those in control; it is essential that the people should come to regard these ends as their own.
Written in 1944, yet why does it seem he was speaking to the progressives of the 2020s?
Hey Dad, we’ve been on this Road for a while. Are we there yet? His dad, aka G. Newsome, replies “Purt’ near. Won’t be long ’til ’24”.
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Pay your fair share. Pay your fair share. Pay your fair share….
Joe Didn’t Report the $50,000/Month in Rent Hunter Claimed He Paid. “There’s more than one way to kick back 10% to ‘the Big Guy,’ and making vastly inflated rent payments is certainly one of them.”
https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2023/01/16/tax-cheat-joe-didnt-report-the-50000-month-in-rent-hunter-claimed-he-paid-n1662135
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BT @ 11:01 PM
Name of the piece: “The Embrace”; 20ft x 40 ft; $10M; very heavy metal.
Word on the street is someone overheard the mayor say “…make it big…” It was misinterpreted as “maquette big”. And the extra money just seemed to appear out of nowhere. Oh, if only a sculptor had appeared as well.
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I’d like to beat my younger brother like a Red Headed Stepchild.
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Scott O and Bill T should consider this,
“In the week since Trump’s estate at Mar-a-Lago was searched by the FBI as part of a probe into his retention of government documents, this assertion that the Russia investigation was a hoax has emerged repeatedly, including from Trump. Because so many of his supporters believe, incorrectly, that the investigation into Trump’s campaign and Russia’s efforts was somehow thoroughly debunked, they are ready to believe that the new probe is similarly artificial.
So it’s worth pointing out that, in fact, the Russia probe was neither a hoax nor debunked — and allow people to draw their own conclusions about the new investigation as a result.”
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I will say this is a problem with many of the commenters here. Qanon’s Alphabet Soup can be found at your favorite fine food outlet near you.
“Capitol rioter who stormed Senate chamber to ‘plead the blood of Jesus’ acquitted on obstruction charge because the judge said he had a ‘unique stew in his mind’”
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Posted by: L. Ron | 16 January 2023 at 10:19 AM
Well thanks for weighing in L.Yawn.
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Notice how the only folks that mention anything about Q are the lefties.
The only reason I’m aware of such a thing is because the left is constantly banging on about it.
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HP 10:12 – “Scott O and Bill T should consider this,”
Heard, considered and discarded.
Same BS from the good folks that told us one lie after another.
But you just keep listening to the liars and have a nice day!
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fish 9:20 – Hilarious.
Just one more thing that Trump was falsely accused of that turned out to be true of Biden.
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