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[Well, Happy 2023 everyone and we might as well start the new year off with a fresh sandbox.  In the 19dec22 Sandbox Mr scenes offered an intriguing suggestion (830am) in an attempt to eliminate the detritus of TDS and things gratuitously Trump from continually contaminating practically every other topic with yet another boring lap around the Trump barn.  He suggested that RR add a Trump category and restrict posting of Trump-centric comments to that category.  I envision it being structured like the Sandbox with dated, and perhaps even topical, labels so that the comment streams don’t become too long.  I need to noodle on this and invite readers’ ideas about how it would work.  gjr]

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  1. Bill Evans Avatar
    Bill Evans

    Governor Ron DeSantis Introduces Frog Conversion Therapy
    According to DeSantis, the therapy will be aimed at “curing” frogs of their homosexuality and promoting traditional “frog family values.”
    https://natscooper.com/governor-ron-desantis-introduces-frog-conversion-therapy/?fbclid=IwAR3Bhptd9eBzQVKMbcTmRDH5F9BWs-M4v-lGJwn6ldbk1OCOJujcCzz7NAQ

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  2. Bill Evans Avatar
    Bill Evans

    Governor Ron DeSantis Introduces Frog Conversion Therapy
    According to DeSantis, the therapy will be aimed at “curing” frogs of their homosexuality and promoting traditional “frog family values.”
    https://natscooper.com/governor-ron-desantis-introduces-frog-conversion-therapy/?fbclid=IwAR3Bhptd9eBzQVKMbcTmRDH5F9BWs-M4v-lGJwn6ldbk1OCOJujcCzz7NAQ

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  3. Bill Evans Avatar
    Bill Evans

    Browser freakout, sorry for the double post.

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I thought OAN went broke and is off the air for awhile now. I could be wrong. Startups are like restaurants….they have a high mortality rate.
    Whatever happened to Air America or CNN+? If OAN is still alive and kicking, it would be News to me.

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  5. Bill Evans Avatar
    Bill Evans

    Gregory 135pm,
    The comment was mine which is based on experience.

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  6. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    toes 158p
    just went looking… had to add a Roku channel… OAN subscriptions are unavailable to add. Deleted the channel.
    “Bill Evans” 200pm
    You were hallucinating. Got it.

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  7. Bill Evans Avatar
    Bill Evans

    Gregory,
    Micro-dosing is not an exact science.

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  8. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    A few minutes ago I had the closest lightning strike ever in my history at my current address… a crack boom flash all within about a half second.
    My lights didn’t flicker. Starlink feed didn’t falter. But it got my attention.
    Rain rain go away, come again another day.

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  9. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Yup –
    Andrew Weissmann, a top prosecutor in the Mueller investigation into former President Donald Trump, criticized the Biden White House on social media over its handling of classified documents and the media fallout that has ensued.
    “The WH keeps digging a hole deeper: they have failed to answer so many questions, which is very strange if this is all an innocent mistake,” Weissmann, who was known as former Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s “pitbull” during the Russia investigation, tweeted on Saturday.
    “Total number of government docs found and precisely where; and what levels of classification?” The tweet continued. “Why wasn’t this all revealed in Nov/Dec?”
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-mueller-prosecutor-white-house-digging-hole-deeper-failing-answer-classified-doc-questions
    😉

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Gregory @ 2:30 pm
    My Brutas Bruiser the Panzer dog is known for being fearless to the point of self-sacrificing to protect his charge, be it sheep or humans or goats. Self-sacrificing is an unusual trait for a canine, especially a non guard dog. With that said, Bruno Brutas Panzer Dog is hiding under the kitchen table after those last lightening strikes. And he never goes in the kitchen, never! Well, never say never. :). Fearless? Always an exception. 🙂
    ——————-
    Garland Left Himself No Choice on Biden Special Counsel
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/01/garland-left-himself-no-choice-on-biden-special-counsel/
    You know, Joe Biden’s lawyers did the right thing by immediately contacting the National Archives to report Joe’s garage classified information. That is following the law. Agents (DOJ?) were sent over to read the docs. Why? Because it is against the Espionage Act among other statues to allow anyone without classified clearance to read classified docs. Apparently, Biden’s lawyers cleaning out his stuff do not have the security clearance.
    It is also against the law for anyone with the proper Security Clearance to allow a person without security clearance to handle, hold, read, or possess classified docs. I bring this up because Hillary had her girlfriend lawyers and advisors from the Clinton Foundation go through her thousands of e-mails, of which some were marked Classified. C at the top does not mean part c, lol. Hillary also sent Classified materials to her printer at her home office and instructed her Guatemalan maid via phone to put the papers that arrived on the printer on her home desk. Another violation of the law and of which would have made Hillary ineligible to hold public office. Glad to see Joe’s lawyers follow the law, even if no one else in the Dem circles do.

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don
    Lol. Well, Biden did himself no favors by publicly confessing to the WH Press Corp (specifically Peter Doocy) that he had classified docs from his VP days locked in his residential garage with his Corvette. He already confessed!
    Oh, Biden will get the Hillary whitewash treatment and it will be just another nothing burger. What scares the shit out of Biden’s handlers and lawyers is the word ‘subpoena.’ If only Biden did not answer any questions on the matter. If only……:). Even Doocy followed up with, “What were you thinking!” Nevermind, never had one, never will.
    The silver linings have me amused.
    1) Andrew Weissmann even discussing ethics is absurd, if not hilarious
    2) Joe Biden had a think tank about foreign policy! Joe Biden, who has never been on the right side of foreign policy once in his entire career, has a foreign policy think tank, lol. I am easily amused.
    3) Joe and his ice cream cones. Mystery solved. Joe never gets brain freezes from eating cold ice cream like we all do or have on occasion in the past because it is impossible with Joe. Gotta have a brain to get brain freezes or ice cream headaches.

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  12. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Now folks are noticing all the chi com money that poured into creepy grampa joes corrupt upen scam $30 mil?! –
    Flaherty demanded, “We now renew our call for the University of Pennsylvania to disclose who in China gave all this money to the Biden Center?”
    What’s significant here is that once the Biden Center was established, the gifts accelerated and much of the money was anonymous as you pointed out, there was a single $14 million anonymous gift in 2018 from a source in China.
    The attention that this whole thing is getting now is a great relief to us because we focused on this issue in 2020. We tabulated the amounts of money from Chinese sources, and we filed a complaint with the Department of Education because universities are supposed to disclose any gift over $250,000. And the University of Pennsylvania did not do that.
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/chinese-donations-penn-biden-center-dark-money-nightmare-says-nlpc-chairman
    😉

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    this podcast is the best one I have come across that articulates my views better than what i am capable of on what is happening to kids. our kids.
    https://fb.watch/i34Zw9WCXn/
    30 minutes.

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  14. fish Avatar
    fish

    Hey….that Corvette is in a locked garage…!

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    moi @ 5:58 pm. Clarification. Last half is worth watched. You go girl. first half Poole talks too much.
    ———————————-
    He stood tall through it all. Thank you Devin.
    ‘Twitter Knew a Democrat Attack on Devin Nunes Was False, but Declined to Debunk It Publicly’
    “Even Big Tech’s leftist censors and speech enforcers privately ridiculed those who were spreading the Russia collusion hoax,” Nunes, now CEO of the Trump Media & Technology Group, told The Daily Signal in a written statement Thursday. “Yet the Democrats and the entire mainstream media adhered to the collusion narrative like an article of faith—and they still do today. It’s a kind of collective psychosis that’s impervious to reason, evidence, and common sense.”
    https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/01/12/twitter-files-reveals-corrupt-campaign-delegitimize-house-intelligence-chiefs-memo-russia-trump-probe/

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  16. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Toes 851p
    “Twitter Knew a Democrat Attack on Devin Nunes Was False, but Declined to Debunk It Publicly”
    Thanks for the link… nice to finally get the backstory about Nunes and the twit’s role in screwing him over

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  17. Bill Evans Avatar
    Bill Evans

    Anyone notice that Taibbi does not mention any of the conservative disinformation flowing into social media. Any thoughts on why that is? Or is it out there and just ignored here?

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  18. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    How much of that “conservative disinformation” is from the right wing, and how much of it is from the hard left to ‘show’ how bad the problem is? Evidence the exchange between Schiff and Musk.
    Taibbi is doing a good job bringing light to the bad acts by Twits under cover of darkness.

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  19. Bill Mumy Avatar
    Bill Mumy

    “Anyone notice that Taibbi does not mention any of the conservative disinformation flowing into social media. Any thoughts on why that is? Or is it out there and just ignored here?“
    But enough about my political misdeeds, let’s talk about yours.

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Bill Eeeeee. Good morning.
    I think you are missing the point of Taibbi and the three other independent journalists’ mission. Musk’s mission.
    The task Elon has set forth is not to uncover disinformation flowing into Twitter under prior management. Nah, the task at hand is to show what they did with that information. Censoring, blocking whole topics, shadow banning, and why. Why, why, why?
    It appears the US Government had been pressuring Twitter to act as a de facto arm of government to censor free speech. Contracting the work out. One answer to the “why” question is for naked political purposes. The Party line.
    Yes, the FBI, DOJ, NSA, DoD, and the WH can say they never told them to block or shut down an account of individual. Not in those words. The tweets tell us what those words they used are. And, if accurate, what we have here is our government via its proxies is violating free speech. Those are legal questions to be resolved.
    Taibbi and the others when it’s their turn go through thousands upon thousands of e-Mails. Taibbi follows and gathers typical examples of the why and how decisions were made at the top and down the line. Internal discussions and thoughts. Taibbi cannot publish hundreds of good examples, so he picks a few ones that capture the entire essence of how they handled the company and requests from government agencies, especially the WH and, of course, the FCC.
    Bill Eeee, it’s not the misinformation entering Twitter, it the way the information. was handled once inside and it does appear that it heavy lopsided against one side of the aisle. Not a thumb on the scale, but a fist.
    As Meek said, isn’t it funny that all these conspiracy theories turn out to be true. And about all of the information little o moi puts out there is later proven to be true. Sometimes slowly, drop, drip, drip….and sometimes quickly. And always it’s a tree that fell in the forest that nobody on the Dark Side seemed to hear.
    Trump did it too!
    The Politicized and Weaponized Bureaucracy-Security State is on trail here, not Twitter. And FB really turned down the screws. Drip, drip, drip.

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  21. Bill W Avatar
    Bill W

    Gregory 12:19
    Your asking me to disprove your statement that “ the folks law enforcement encounters is -DOMINATED- by the -VIOLENT- amongst us”
    Do you think LEO has more violent encounters than traffic tickets written?

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  22. Scott O Avatar

    Billy Boy 9:37 – “Anyone notice that Taibbi does not mention any of the conservative disinformation flowing into social media.”
    You mean from the govt? Or do you mean evidence of the Trump admin trying to censor citizens?
    Cause there isn’t any, dude.
    The Dems lied and used the FBI and the social medias to censor citizens and frame innocent people.
    And the left just gives a collective yawn.
    Now I know how Hitler came to power.
    A criminal govt is Okie Dokie as long as they go after the people you don’t like.

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  23. Not psul Avatar
    Not psul

    Blue Lives Matter

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  24. Scott O Avatar

    Bill W 10:42 – Are you still banging on about that?
    You totally embarrassed yourself with that list of names of people “murdered by the police”.
    Maybe stop robbing houses and shooting at the cops and you might live a little longer.
    A much higher percentage of blacks engage in criminal activity and a much higher percentage of black criminals won’t or don’t obey police orders.
    “Hands Up – Don’t Shoot” was a lie, but it lives on because it fits the narrative you want.
    The police have now backed off from even pulling speeders over if they even think the driver is black. The result is traffic fatalities among blacks has risen.
    Good going!
    Less police equals more brutality and criminal activity against innocent black people but Bill W thinks that’s just fine because it doesn’t affect him and he gets to have his feelings validated.

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  25. Bill W Avatar
    Bill W

    Not psul
    Did the 160 assaulted Capitol police on 1/6 matter?
    Have yet to hear a righty complain about those blue lives getting assaulted.
    Definitely no one on this site.

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  26. Not psul Avatar
    Not psul

    Willits
    Blue Lives Matter.

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  27. Bill Cosby Avatar
    Bill Cosby

    “ Definitely no one on this site.”
    Definitely not.

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott O
    Do you agree with Trump when he says all those arrested on Jan 6 should be pardoned?
    “Former president Donald Trump said he would issue full pardons and a government apology to rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and violently attacked law enforcement to stop the democratic transfer of power.
    “I mean full pardons with an apology to many,” he told conservative radio host Wendy Bell on Thursday morning. Such a move would be contingent on Trump running and winning the 2024 presidential election.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/01/trump-jan-6-rioters-pardon/

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  29. BillO’Reilly Avatar
    BillO’Reilly

    Shorter psul: Hold my beer while I shriek endlessly about Trump.

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  30. Bill Evans Avatar
    Bill Evans

    Are the Taibbi fans all ignoring why Trump was banned from Twitter?
    It’s kind of a stretch to say that there was no disinformation to begin with, and Twitter and those who wanted to influence Twitter were just trying to stifle free press/ freedom of speech.
    Remember a thing called QAnon? Even Marjorie Taylor Green admitted that she had been duped by QAnon conspiracy theories.
    The question in my mind is did Twitter do a community service by trying to shut down QAnon disinformation?

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  31. Bill Evans Avatar
    Bill Evans

    Right wing echo chambers and yodelers are all wondering why the discovery of classified documents in Biden’s possession was not immediately announced to the public (hopefully before the midterms).
    The National Archives didn’t publicly announce the Trump document drama until a month after their investigation began.

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  32. Bill Russell Avatar
    Bill Russell

    Shorter Bill(s): How dare you accuse your betters over doing the underhanded political things we did.

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    ‘The Loudoun County cover-up reveals the moral depravity of woke’
    A schoolgirl was raped by a ‘genderfluid’ boy – and her school covered it up.
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/01/13/the-loudoun-county-cover-up-reveals-the-moral-depravity-of-woke/
    I could be wrong, but it appears to me that this ‘classified docs up Biden’s tailpipe’ embarrassing episode has the Left all twisted up in knots and some, as evidenced above, are having conniption fit. Back to their normal.

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  34. Billy Joel Avatar
    Billy Joel

    If there was any doubt over whether Biden is being pitched over the side.
    “Adam Schiff Admits Possible National Security Jeopardized With Biden Documents”

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  35. Bill Evans Avatar
    Bill Evans

    Elon/Twitter only releases the information he chooses to. Is Elon biased?

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  36. Bill Evans Avatar
    Bill Evans

    I have heard for years, maybe decades, that the government over-classifies documents in the extreme. It has been a problem with FOI requests for a long time.
    It is probable that docs Hillary, Trump, Biden, and who knows who else, had in there possession were not that important as far as national security.
    But what is wierd is why Trump was playing musical banker boxes with what he had and why he would not rush to hand them over.

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  37. Bill Williard Avatar
    Bill Williard

    Elon Musk is a threat to democracy as the ignorant one see it.
    Look at the bright side. No one has talked about Joe’s dementia once since the stolen documents in Joe’s possession story broke.

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  38. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Is Musk biased, a random sock puppet asks…
    It seems to me he’s biased towards truth, justice and the American way, even though he wasn’t born here. All the folks here hiding behind a plethora of sockpuppets should be so bold.

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  39. Bill Evans Avatar
    Bill Evans

    Gregory and Paul have something in common, they deplore the use of aliases. Rejoice!

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  40. Scott O Avatar

    Bill W 11:15 – “Have yet to hear a righty complain about those blue lives getting assaulted.
    Definitely no one on this site.”
    You show up late, don’t do your homework and then complain about the questions on the test.
    I have yet to hear Bill W denounce child pornography.
    ergo, Bill W is for child pornography.
    Whatever mental disease Paul Emery has, it’s apparently contagious to those of little intellect.

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  41. Scott O Avatar

    “It is probable that docs Hillary, Trump, Biden, and who knows who else, had in there possession were not that important as far as national security.”
    Yes, probable because….?
    Must be why Hilary had the server in her house and wiped the hard drives before the FBI could examine them.
    You lefties are going to get a hernia carrying water for the Dems.

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  42. Bill W Avatar
    Bill W

    Bill Tozer 12:58
    You haven’t read either the Mueller report or the Senate led bipartisan inquiry into Russian interference if your claiming their wasn’t a single U.S citizen colluding with the Russians.
    From both reports;
    Paul Manafort, Trumps one time campaign manager engaged with a Russian intelligence officer named Konstantine Kilimnik and Oleg Derispraka, with whom it’s said Moscow coordinates foreign influence operations.
    “On numerous occasions, Manafort sought to secretly share internal campaign information with Kilimnik.
    Manaforts presence on the campaign and the proximity to trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on the Trump campaign.
    Taken as a whole, Manaforts willingness to share information and high level access represented a grave counterintelligence threat”

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  43. Scott O Avatar

    “with whom it’s said…”
    “Manafort sought to…”
    “created opportunities…”
    Sounds like 7th grade girls whispering dirt to each other.
    Any judge or jury would laugh BS like that out of court.

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  44. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Bill Evans” 259p
    It’s a bloody Superman catch-phrase, and I first heard it on the intro of the show with George Reeves as the Big Guy, until he offed himself. In the 1950’s. On the black and white Muntz TV my folks had.
    https://en.wikipedia.org
    /wiki/Madman_Muntz#Muntz_TV
    It’s simple, direct and everyone besides you apparently got it on first reading.

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  45. Scott O Avatar

    It just gets better – “”The data that I shared with him was a combination of public information and stuff for the spring that was. It was old,” Manafort told the outlet.”
    Sounds super duper secret…
    Public info and stuff that was old.
    What? For money?
    Sounds like Manafort was scamming the Russians.

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  46. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Faster than a speeding bullet; more powerful than a locomotive; able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. Look! Up in the sky; it’s a bird. It’s a plane. It’s Superman! Yes it’s Superman, strange visitor from another planet who came to earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. Superman who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend steel in his bare hands, and who disguised as Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper, fights a never-ending battle for Truth, Justice and the American Way.”
    Reeves could have used a Shatner to smooth out his love handles but in the ’50’s hardly anyone worked out.

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