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[CA fires continue to kill, destroy thousands of homes, and cost billions to contain. In the meantime prescription burns to reduce fuel loads are proscribed because of the potential of litigation costs from accidental or claimed damages from such burns. And police point out that mass shootings invariably occur in ‘gun-free zones’ where legal guns that could prevent/reduce deaths are banned. And the state’s housing shortage and high cost continue to be maintained by regulations and codes that cater to liberal governance dominated by the ecology epidemic. Insanity running rampant and on the rise. gjr]

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  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    1). The news last night said that last month had 29 days where there was no solar activity on 50% of the Sun’s surface.
    2) Russ: “About one-third of high school graduates have to take remedial courses in college, and one-third of Americans cannot name a single branch of government.”
    On the lists of what’s wrong with CA (1/3 of all the welfare leeches in the nation, highest taxes, etc), I am noticing that the CA education system is now on the list why people leave CA. Yep, the horrid broken CA education system is listed as a motivator for people to abandon CA.
    A big quality of live issue and the former county Superintendent of Education wants to basically drop teaching subjects to our high school seniors!!! Unbelievable. His pappy was a CA Dem legislature with a school named after him. Apple don’t fall the tree…the poison tree he helped create. His solution? Have our community colleges teach high school seniors what our public schools have proven incapable to do. What a incompetent POS.
    3) scenes: “Abolish the Department of Education.” Gary Johnson nailed that one. Straight out of the Reagon playbook.

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd writes:
    “California is all yours Paul Emery, and we see what you like.”
    Why do you stick around here Todd? Must be miserable for you.

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yeah Bill
    Reagan closed many of the mental hospitals as well and look what that got us.

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  4. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,George@916pm,,, Thank you for your unattributed, self serving definition of “‘nationalism”‘
    Merriam-Webster does not agree with you,,,OMG has M-W gone full Lib?!!? Have Agenda 21 agents subverted yet another organization???
    Definition of nationalism
    1 : loyalty and devotion to a nation
    especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
    //Intense nationalism was one of the causes of the war.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalism

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  5. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    PaulEmery sagely states: “Reagan closed many of the mental hospitals as well and look what that got us.”
    lol. For God’s sake man. Do you know anything about anything?
    Actually look into the history of mental health law through the 1960’s and 1970’s and get back to us.

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  6. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    As I’ve stated before, I rather like the idea of a Blue Mob dominated California, at least until they start burning down Todd’s house.
    It’s an interesting Petri dish. So far, it doesn’t appear to have done a lick of good. One exception is that you can build a good consumer culture via cheap imports paid for with the kind of cash centralization you can achieve by urbanization. Urban states seem to have a colonialist relationship with rural states after all.
    I’m afraid I won’t get my public healthcare, free education, or a pony, but there’s fun to be had by watching special interest groups fight over the carcass. The important thing is to stay out of the way.
    Act II will be the schism within The Party. North v. South? La Razans v. Everyone Else? To survive, the state will probably need a Lee Kuan Yew and a more competent civil service.

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  7. BilliTozer Avatar
    BilliTozer

    Look where keeping the Department of Educattion around has got us. Just incorporate it into Social Services or childcare. Gary Johnson, among many others, is correct. Abolish it.
    The steady decline in pubic education can traced directly back to around 1970, the exact same time that the Sex, Drugs, and Roc-n-Roll took hold. Generational dope smokers. Pot.
    In inflation adjusted dollars, the more money put into CA classrooms, the poorer the results since 1970. A direct inverse correlation.
    Classroom size was bigger in 1970 and every efffot to reduce classroom size. has resulted in poorer results. More money is not the solution. Newer buildings are not the solution.
    All the Department of Education does is dole out money and grants for kids to go to college to learn what they failed and failed miserably to learn in HS, even with rampant lowering of standards. Education today is not about students. Is all about protecting teachers and administrators first and foremost, as our incompetent former County Superintendent of Schools blantantly exemptifies.

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scenes
    Here’s a summary of what Reagan did in closing Mental Hospitals and the repercussions. There is pleanty of documentation to support this. If you like I will provide more.
    “He closed California’s mental hospitals, at least most of them. The State Hospital had to be kept open as part of the Dept. of Corrections. He had funding for others in the country cut while he was President, until the vast majority shut down in favor of outpatient clinics. What left us with is a bunch of homeless people with mental illnesses, many of whom are trying to self medicate.He closed California’s mental hospitals, at least most of them. The State Hospital had to be kept open as part of the Dept. of Corrections. He had funding for others in the country cut while he was President, until the vast majority shut down in favor of outpatient clinics. What left us with is a bunch of homeless people with mental illnesses, many of whom are trying to self medicate.”
    https://www.quora.com/Did-Reagan-close-all-the-mental-hospitals-in-the-1980s-when-he-was-the-governor-of-California

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sorry for the double up on that.

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Look whats coming up
    With President Donald Trump reportedly considering a mass purge of top White House officials, one Trump White House official bitterly compared the president to an arsonist.
    In a Wall Street Journal report that details Trump’s plans to fire both Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and top John Bolton deputy Mira Ricardel, one current White House official said that the president has made a habit of keeping officials constantly on edge about their fates.
    “This is how the president works,” the official said. “He’s doused a bunch of people in gasoline and he’s waiting for someone to light a match.”
    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/wh-official-shreds-trump-ahead-rumored-mass-firings-thats-works-hes-doused-people-gasoline/

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  11. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: PaulEmery. Dude, go through any detailed review of mental health law changes in that time period and before. For once in your life, don’t just parrot some talking points. I could find a hundred little editorials like the one you show and there’s no knowledge to be gained. Dig in a little bit even if it feels strange. Here, wait a minute, I’ll do a KVMR news director level of research.
    http://www.gormogons.com/index.php/2013/03/reagan-didnt-close-down-mental-hospitals/
    It’s really all pretty interesting and, as usual, it’s hard to tell how you got to a place or where you should be.
    To take a break from the normal run of the blog ‘Pauls’ Ruminations’, in case anybody hadn’t run into this. Paradise fire.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7hn3bov9Qg

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 9:23 am
    “Urban states seem to have a colonialist relationship with rural states after all.”
    https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343/1476299045837461/?type=3&source=48
    Exactly. The urban centers have wrest control and now tell rural Americans what to do and how to live their lives. The urban centers make the rules that all must follow. Just imagine the Blue Mob reaction if the farmers told everyone else by force what to do, how to live their lives, and set the rules that all must follow.
    Colonialists is an accurate description. So is totalitarianism.

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 November 2018 at 09:49 AM
    With President Donald Trump reportedly considering a mass purge of top White House officials, one Trump White House official bitterly compared the president to an arsonist.

    So what…. he’s well within his rights if he wants to do this?
    Punchy….refresh my memory…..you are a “newsman” aren’t you…..not just a guy who drops these little tidbits thinking that he’s going to shame us into thinking Trump is some sort of monster?

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  14. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    also, to anybody in the cheap seats, when you see:
    “DID REAGAN CLOSE ALL THE MENTAL HOSPITALS IN THE 1980s”
    Keep in mind that he left office in 1975.
    “the president has made a habit of keeping officials constantly on edge about their fates.”
    Good. It ain’t a sinecure after all.

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    M 902am – Your M-W and my Wikipedia definitions of ‘nationalism’ are functionally identical. Neither are pejorative nor do they contrast it with patriotism, the claim you and yours make. My 916pm stands.

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Here’s more Scenes. Take the time and read the whole link then get back with some kind of detailed rebuttal.
    Ronald Reagan, the 40th president of the United States, is well known for his fiscal policies that stimulated economic growth, cut inflation and pulled America out of a recession (Cannon, 2017). What Reagan is not readily known for is the long term effect of a law he repealed that essentially deinstitutionalized mentally ill patients at the federal level (Roberts, 2013). While some of his fiscal policies had a positive effect on the U.S. economy during the 1980s, his decision to deinstitutionalize mentally ill patients had a much more deleterious effect on these patients, their communities, and the agencies that were left to contend with these individuals’ mental health issues (Honberg, 2015).
    https://sites.psu.edu/psy533wheeler/2017/02/08/u01-ronald-reagan-and-the-federal-deinstitutionalization-of-mentally-ill-patients/comment-page-1/

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  17. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    In the “grifters R Us” department, Scumbag #2 is hawking official trump Christmas ornaments.. Get yours now boys. Show your support for nepotism, graft, and corruption while making a political statement with your Christmas tree. Instead of a lump of clean coal put one of these in your stocking. Fight the war on Christmas by owning one of these great wonderful sensational exceptional baubles while transferring your hard earned money into the trump family coffers. After all isn’t politics all about making money off the American people? How many other Presidents have sold ornaments? How about ZERO. How pathetic!
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eric-trump-christmas-ornaments_us_5bea80d8e4b0783e0a1b565f

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  18. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: BillT@9:56AM
    “Colonialists is an accurate description. ”
    I admit that when I see the typical thoughtbite of “THE RED STATES ARE SUPPORTED BY THE BLUE STATES” I always think about that.
    It’s always been the case once a large bureaucracy (or priesthood) gets set up. Money flows from the countryside into the city. If you don’t pay, the sheriff’s men show up to burn barns and rape the women. Now we get rural impoverishment rather than outright taxation.
    The modern equivalent is to plunk down all of the FIRE (that’s Finance Insurance Real Estate, Paul) businesses in a handful of urban areas and to keep mining/agriculture/manufacturing in the hinterlands on bare life support. Profits flow uphill in a seemingly entropy-violating manner. Point money at a farmer or industrial worker and the city folks start yelling. We can’t have expensive oranges or F150’s after all, it might make CalPERS lose money.

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  19. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: PaulE@10:06AM
    Simply look up ‘deinstitutionalization’ and go from there. It has a long history. Don’t google (which is what is going on here of course) ‘Reagan’ and ‘shut down mental health facilities’….that’s all you’ll find.
    The problem with attempting to learn via websearch is that you just find exactly what you are looking for.
    Listen, if you want to fire up a few dozen asylums in California, I’m all for it. It would clean up the parking lot by KVMR no end.

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  20. ***M*** Avatar
    ***M***

    ,,,George@1004,,,you have failed to contrast or compare ‘patriotism with ‘nationalism’ ,,,the subject brought up in your 711pm
    “‘Macron claims nationalism is counter to patriotism”‘

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  21. fish Avatar
    fish

    Show your support for nepotism, graft, and corruption while making a political statement with your Christmas tree.
    ……but Mrs. Clinton didn’t win bobby?!?

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  22. George Rebane Avatar

    RobertC 1008am – Well, that’s a real stretch of vitriol, even for you Mr Cross. First, the President is NOT selling Christmas ornaments; and second, you appear to require that American presidents sever relations with all their own business interests, and all their friends and relatives who have business interests. But no president has ever stripped himself in such a manner. But it is a great new cause for collectivist activism. ‘Workers, you have nothing to lose but your chains, and nothing less to gain than the world!’

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  23. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Patriotism v. nationalism.
    I’ll do a bit of Paul research. From wikipedia:
    “Patriotism or national pride is the ideology of love and devotion to a homeland, and a sense of alliance with other citizens who share the same values. This attachment can be a combination of many different features relating to one’s own homeland, including ethnic, cultural, political or historical aspects. It encompasses a set of concepts closely related to those of nationalism.”
    If I were forced to make a distinction, it would probably be to twizzle out the difference between ‘nation’ and ‘country’.

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  24. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    “First, the President is NOT selling Christmas ornaments;” No his son is. Not vitriol George, facts. Great response that shows just how far one can stretch the truth to arrive at an acceptable conclusion that supports your chosen ideology. Gee George, I thought presidents were supposed to put their holdings into blind trusts, something trump has not done. I wonder how many ornaments they will sell in Saudi Arabia? Probably billions of dollars worth… Oh oops, the Saudis aren’t Christians, but who cares a bribe is a bribe. It does not matter if trump himself is selling ornaments.. it all goes into the same piggy bank. Duh.
    Another useless post by a little fishy in a little pond. So what you are saying is that to the winner the spoils. I don’t recall that Chelsie Clinton was selling cheesy ornaments.

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “With President Donald Trump reportedly considering a mass purge of top White House officials, one Trump White House official bitterly compared the president to an arsonist.”
    That is how the Seperation of Powers is suppose to work, despite what the Botox Queen Morning Joe, and Little Nadler think. They serve at the pleasure of Congress….er….strike that. They serve at the pleasure of the President. If you cannot perform at the very highest levels exceeding all your peers, you’re fired. The good is the enemy of the best.

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Robert Cross | 13 November 2018 at 10:36 AM
    I don’t recall that Chelsie Clinton was selling cheesy ornaments.

    No….but if she or her mother thought for an instant that it would have furthered their political careers it would have been Home Shopping Network 24/7 in Chappaqua!
    …..and as always thanks bobsy!

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Oh BoobieC, Hillary and Bill did not sell ornaments, they stole the silverware. And Hillary sold America down the river for millions. Don Jr. is a piker compared to tose heros of yours.

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Totally off thread and topic, but I read this a few days ago and it is haunting me. Perhaps because it is ringing familiar.
    Ten Days of Violence; Revisting Harvey Milk, Jim Jones, and San Francisco.
    “If the 1960s were an era of hope, peace, change, and idealism, the 1970s were the time when humanity woke up to the reality of its existence. High-flown ideas about changing our essential nature faded as the truth of earthly life—petty, venal, ruthless, and brutal—reemerged and reeducated mankind about ourselves.
    San Francisco, the beating heart of ‘60s hippiedom, saw this change the most keenly. Peace and love gave way to violence with the Manson family, the Symbionese Liberation Army, the Weather Underground, and the Black Panthers all moving from persuasion to force to achieve their various left-wing aims. Society, it appeared, would not be remade on the basis of flower power alone.
    In that way, the two crimes are unrelated except by chronology. Milk’s murder is more akin to workplace violence than it is the evidence of a larger societal trend. The mass suicide at Jonestown, on the other hand, was the culmination of a series of bad choices. The People’s Temple was hailed by mainstream politicians for their socialism, and was one of many groups from that era determined to remake mankind in their image. It was not inevitable that they would fail through mass murder, but in that violence and coercion had been a part of their worldview from the start, it is also not surprising.
    San Francisco has never truly recovered from the problems of those times. The hippies who made it moved out, and those who remained saw their movement turn malignant in groups like Jones’s. The city became richer through the booming Silicon Valley economy, but the politics never changed.
    Rich and poor alike in San Francisco preach the politics of warmed-over socialism. The only difference now is that the rich can afford to protect themselves from its realities. The rest of the city, especially its dwindling middle class, find themselves in the semi-feudal culture their ideology once sought to overthrow.
    https://thefederalist.com/2018/11/09/revisiting-harvey-milk-jim-jones-and-san-franciscos-ten-days-of-violence/

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    O’casio is the gift that keeps on giving. Sounds like an economics major.
    “Mayor Bill DeBlasio, who is expected to announce the plan on Tuesday, called it “the single biggest economic development deal in the history of New York City.” But Ocasio-Cortez — a Bernie Sanders acolyte who routinely rails against the malign influence of large corporations — cast the opening of a new Amazon headquarters in her district as yet another opportunity for the wealthiest to pillage the resources of the poor.”
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ocasio-cortez-claims-new-yorkers-are-outraged-over-opening-of-new-amazon-headquarters/
    Guess she is waiting for OPM
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-claims-of-not-being-to-afford-dc-apartment-crumbles-under-scrutiny
    She said in an interview that she cannot work until she gets to Congress. Members of Congress have jobs. Some are still practicing surgeons and medical doctors. Hmmm. Maybe it’s a conflict of interest thang, but I can’t see why she doesn’t sling hash for a month at the diner to pick up some tips and Christmas money to eek by. She already bought her first new couch. I remember when I bought my first new couch. My new bride insisted, lol.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-claims-of-not-being-to-afford-dc-apartment-crumbles-under-scrutiny
    Oh wait. The only ones that are real pissed at her is at her old restaurant. Something about taking too much (stealing) out of the common tip jar. Guess she needed 500 bucks extra that night and the other waitresses not so much. Oh wait. The restaurant is closing after all theses years. Owners retiring and the new minimum wage law in NY does not make sense to try to stay in business. Nevermind.
    She is pretty and likeable for sure. Can’t take that away from her. Kids saynthe darnest things.

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  30. George Rebane Avatar

    Hate springs eternal. Comparing a Trump selling Christmas ornaments out of an existing business to the Clintons’ massively fraudulent enterprises with their ‘foundation’ is itself a cheesy attempt at rationalization. It’s of interest as to why our leftwingers even bring it up. I believe that we know the answer, but do they?

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 11:38 am.
    Best campaign slogan of 2018, IMHO, was “Vote your hate!” Guess which side took that to heart?
    Busy gal. She left before arrests began. Wonder if Nancy told them what she told Code Pink protesting in front of her gated mansion on the hill in Frisco Heights during Obama: “You are not my constitutes.” Love it.
    https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/11/13/ocasio-cortez-climate-protestors-push-pelosi-962915

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar

    Bad news for Trump from Ruminations favorite lawyer Napolitano.
    Fox News judicial correspondent Andrew Napolitano predicted on Tuesday that CNN would likely prevail in a case against the White House after it banned CNN reporter Jim Acosta.
    Napolitano explained to Fox Business host Stuart Varney that the White House does not have the right to revoke Acosta’s press pass simply because his questions irritated President Donald Trump.
    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/cnn-good-case-fox-news-analyst-says-white-house-will-quickly-go-flames-jim-acosta/

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  33. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1219pm – Since there is no requirement – constitutional or otherwise – for a President to talk to reporters, are they all not in the WH Press Room at the pleasure of the President, both individually and severally? How does such a suit even have standing in any court of law?

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  34. Keith Avatar
    Keith

    Regarding the post by Mr. Emery at 0933. The article attached notes “Did Reagan close all the mental hospitals in the 1980s when he was governor of the state of California.” Last I knew Reagan was governor from 1967 – 1975. And they keep him around as the newsguy at KVMR??

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    M 1018am – Since Macron did not define either ‘nationalism’ or ‘patriotism’, I didn’t think I had to counter him. But acceding to your request that I do, I’ll summarize it by stating that (given my 916pm definition) patriotism is nothing more nor less than the display, exercise, and/or implementation of nationalism – i.e. patriotism is the practice and maintenance of nationalism.

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  36. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    “Hate springs eternal.” yes George it does.. your hate for Democrats knows no bounds even to the point of ignoring the trump crime family’s many indiscretions and continually citing unproven allegations about the Clintons as per the typical right wing talking points and other garbage. Do you think the trumps would be selling ornaments if he wasn’t President? They are personally capitalizing on his election (doubling the fees at Mara Lago for instance) like no other person in history. When will you realize they are just a bunch of grifters?

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Robert Cross | 13 November 2018 at 12:55 PM
    When will you realize they are just a bunch of grifters?

    When you admit you still weigh 500 lbs!

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  38. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    What a drag…. Just got news that some of my kin were killed in Paradise. Three of my cousins have been lost.

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar

    Can there be any doubt Nevada County is Deep Blue. The Republican exodus from Nevada County is in fill swing. I understand that they are going to open Relocation Centers to handle the exodus. Lots of room up North in Jefferson Territory. No way Nevada County is going to sign on to that.
    Denny is mow up by 9 over LaMalfa
    Newsom up by 7 over Cox
    Padilla up by 12 over Mueser
    Fionna Ma up by 12 over Conlon
    Hallinan up by 3 over Gaines
    Morse up by 50% over McClintock AMAZING
    Sisk over Dahle by 1
    Hillary Hodge gets the most votes for City Council
    Shannon Moon up by 15% over Republican Party endorsed Bill Smethers

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar

    This was released this afternoon
    Here’s a link for your conveniance

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  41. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 13 November 2018 at 01:43 PM
    Sorry my friend!

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    1:08 pm
    When pigs fly!
    Repeat of the week: the more they win, the angrier they get.
    Thought Hillary said they would be civil when they got the House back. Hmmm. Maybe she said they would be civil when they won the House and Senate and get rid of Trump. Yep, when pigs fly.
    ———————-
    CNN does not a have a prayer. They have two other reporters in the room. Acoustic can watch the press conferences from the television set or on-line just like the rest of us do. Nobody is stopping him from reporting on the pressers or any topic he chooses.
    https://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-levin/my-brief-take-on-the-cnn-lawsuit/10155542277850946/
    Judge Nap, like Alan Dershowitz, are not Constitutional lawyers. Nor are they versed on the seperation of powers, as evidenced by the media’s horrified reaction to a temp appointment of Session’s replacement. A temp appointment to replace Sessions to keep the Department humming along. A permanent replacement will have to go through the wringer of advise and consent. They want W to accuse himself, ROFLMAO. Recuse himself. For what? Having opinions? This in not a judicial nomination for a life long appointment. It’s a political appointment to serve at the pleasure of SCOTUS. Political. What a bunch of ignorami.
    Ah, they have from day one been scared M-less that Trump will fire Meuller. They know Trump can anytime he chooses. And now the realization is hitting them that Meuller’s report is a Blue puddle and they will be looking with every ounce of their beings to find what Meuller didn’t or couldn’t. Sweet.
    The only reason Trump does not drop the unclassified FISC warrant down is because he does not have to. Holding back for the right time. Meuller Report, then IG report, then declassify. Boy, the Left will be howling at the moon. Civil? It’s against their nature.

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  43. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Prayers for your family Walt.

    @152 – How very po’ ol’ fakenewsman of you!
    😉

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Sorry Walt.

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  45. Paul Emery Avatar

    Sorry to hear about your family Walt.

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  46. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    More than a drag Walt, my condolences to your extended family.

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