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Sandbox – 11jul22

11 July 2022

[Apologies for letting the last sandbox get a little odoriferous. I wonder how many of our Ruminators are planning on setting up bond ladders for the continuing rough ride in the securities markets. gjr]

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426 responses to “Sandbox – 11jul22”

fish

19 July 2022

…..and in other news.

400 heavily armed officers in Uvalde waited in a hallway for an hour while a mass shooter gunned down 19 children.
A 22-year-old kid with a pistol in Indiana took down a mass shooter in 15 seconds.

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1549518668224151552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1549518668224151552%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F

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Scott O

19 July 2022

fish 7:14 – What was it some idiot Dem said about a man with a hand gun against a man with an “assault rifle”?
Another Dem talking point ‘shot’ to hell!

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Oh yeah – the lefty witches on the ‘View’ actually tried to diss the hero.
The left is totally sick in the head.

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Paul Emery

19 July 2022

Scott
Actually I was playing music and touring and I spend considerable time in both of those countries.

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psfish

19 July 2022

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 July 2022 at 07:21 PM
Well?????

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Paul 7:21 – What happened to your point about Reagan closing the hospitals?
What a chicken-assed little coward.

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Hello Paul? My 7:03?
Possibly you have an intelligent response?
Cluck cluck, cluck…

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psfish

19 July 2022

Posted by: psul Emery | 19 July 2022 at 06:54 PM
So why fish are there virtually no homeless people on the streets of Denmark and Ireland, two countries I have spend a considerable amount of time in?

Well….since you’ve “spend” a considerable amount of time there why don’t you enlighten us?
Why are there virtually no homeless people on the streets of Denmark and Ireland?

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fish

19 July 2022

Posted by: Scott O | 19 July 2022 at 07:21 PM
From the comments…..
“shooter was one unlucky bastard. spends an hour getting ready in the bathroom, comes out blazin, things going well, maybe he’ll set a record. little does he know that seated in front of the Sbarro, John Wick’s long forgotten younger brother, sharing boba tea with his girlfriend”

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psfish

19 July 2022

Why are there virtually no homeless people on the streets of Denmark and Ireland?

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Scott O

19 July 2022

psfish 7:44 – Have patience – Paul is trying to find the next topic to change to.
He’s already totally abandoned his previous positions.

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Don Bessee

19 July 2022

Not even a good faker –
Far-left Rep. Alexandria Ocaso-Cortez (D-NY) on Tuesday seemingly pretended to be handcuffed after being escorted away during a pro-abortion protest outside of the Supreme Court, generating mockery across social media, as U.S. Capitol Police arrested over a dozen members of Congress.
A viral video shows an officer escorting the New York lawmaker away from the Supreme Court as a nearby woman shouted, “Abortion rights are under attack!” Ocasio-Cortez can be seen walking with her hands behind her back, creating the illusion of being handcuffed. She then raises a fist in the air, confirming the absence of handcuffs.
The stunt generated a wave of mockery across social media.
“That’s because she’s a performer, not a Congresswoman…” one user wrote.
One called her a fraud, and another user observed, “Almost as good as her fake crying at that random fence in Arizona.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/19/watch-aoc-pretends-to-be-handcuffed-after-arrest-at-abortion-protest-outside-of-supreme-court/
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Scott O

19 July 2022

Paul claims he was in the Natl Guard. Can you imagine how safe we were?

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Don 7:49 – Faking it is all the left has left.
Do ya think they’ll throw her in solitary for a year with no bail?

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Paul Emery

19 July 2022

Scott
Yes indeed Reagan closed the mental hospitals. Here’s the whole story if you care to read it.
https://www.salon.com/2013/09/29/ronald_reagans_shameful_legacy_violence_the_homeless_mental_illness/

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fish

19 July 2022

Posted by: Scott O | 19 July 2022 at 07:48 PM
psfish 7:44 – Have patience – Paul is trying to find the next topic to change to.
He’s already totally abandoned his previous positions.
If you’d only had the patience wait 6 more minutes Scott you could have watched him try and steer you back to a source almost as bad as his favorite raw story.com

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Don Bessee

19 July 2022

The liar @ 754 is pretending my 535 does not exist so lets give the wispy haired geezer another chance for a little education. I see your salon and raise you a NYT –
You reap what you sow oh great ponytail of ignorance @ 511 LOL
The fact is it was the ACLU and activist psychs that systematically shut down the mental institutions across the country and you are parroting an urban legend –
The records show that the politicians were dogged by the image and financial problems posed by the state hospitals and that the scientific and medical establishment sold Congress and the state legislatures a quick fix for a complicated problem that was bought sight unseen.
‘They’ve Gone Far, Too Far’
In California, for example, the number of patients in state mental hospitals reached a peak of 37,500 in 1959 when Edmund G. Brown was Governor, fell to 22,000 when Ronald Reagan attained that office in 1967, and continued to decline under his administration and that of his successor, Edmund G. Brown Jr. The senior Mr. Brown now expresses regret about the way the policy started and ultimately evolved. ”They’ve gone far, too far, in letting people out,” he said in an interview.
Dr. Robert H. Felix, who was then director of the National Institute of Mental Health and a major figure in the shift to community centers, says now on reflection: ”Many of those patients who left the state hospitals never should have done so. We psychiatrists saw too much of the old snake pit, saw too many people who shouldn’t have been there and we overreacted. The result is not what we intended, and perhaps we didn’t ask the questions that should have been asked when developing a new concept, but psychiatrists are human, too, and we tried our damnedest.”
Dr. John A. Talbott, president of the American Psychiatric Association, said, ”The psychiatrists involved in the policy making at that time certainly oversold community treatment, and our credibility today is probably damaged because of it.” He said the policies ”were based partly on wishful thinking, partly on the enormousness of the problem and the lack of a silver bullet to resolve it, then as now.”
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html
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Paul Emery

19 July 2022

fishmouth
Why are there virtually no homeless people on the streets of Denmark and Ireland?
A major reason is both countries have psychiatric social workers on the streets much like police who spot people early on who have drug, alcohol or psychiatric problems and they immediately give them help and shelter. They do not let them become chronically homeless like we do here. They also give them shelter and good food and a healthy diet as well as counseling and medical help, They help them before they are too far gone like many of the homeless in our country. They also are given financial assistance and job training. You just don’t see homeless encampments in either country.

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Scott O

19 July 2022

No Paul – that’s not the whole story. Just trying to post links doesn’t even start to answer pertinent questions.
Why haven’t the Dems re-started what Reagan shut down.
Reagan magic too damn bad assed?
Dems.
Unable.
To.
Overcome.
Reagan.
Voodoo.
Reagan was 50 years ago, Paul. Those people in the hospital then are pretty much all dead.
Paul – can you hear me?
Do you read English?
Why haven’t the Dems fixed the problem?
They’ve only had decades.

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Paul Emery

19 July 2022

I agree with you Scott. The Dems did not rebuild the trashed mental health facilities that were Reagans legacy.

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Hilarious – Paul 8:03 – “They also give them shelter and good food and a healthy diet as well as counseling and medical help, They help them before they are too far gone like many of the homeless in our country.”
So?
Who has run CA for decades?
Dems.
Just do the tofu and salad greens for a few days and we’re good to go!
Nevada County is all blue – according to Paul.
So – why the homeless problem?
The Dems have run CA for quite a while and the homeless problem is just getting worse. Gavin said as mayor of SF, he would fix the homeless problem and it got worse.
Why doesn’t Paul articulate an explanation instead of posting links?
Why doesn’t Paul ‘circle back’ to his original position that it’s all Reagan’s fault and defend that position?
All I hear from Paul is “run to the next fall-back position”!

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psfish

19 July 2022

Posted by: psul Emery | 19 July 2022 at 08:03 PM
Now…..was that so hard? See if you put forth just a little effort and stop begging for links like some information deficient street person you could go far psul!
I’m proud of you!
Now….if you could tell me why the California Democrat Party….who if memory serves control the assembly, senate and executive can’t manage to do what you say Denmark and Ireland are doing but who seem to be able to spend in the neighborhood of 600K for each special homeless apartment* they’re constructing I would consider that a real favor.
*hint: progressive democrat graft

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Paul 8:17 – So – why even mention Reagan?
It would seem the Dems are even more guilty and yet you have yet to name even one.
And you vote for them.
Way to go, bro!
Paul’s position is that Reagan is bad, but we should vote for those who know he’s bad and refuse to do any better.
You are sick in the head, Paul.

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Uh oh – Italics alert!

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psfish

19 July 2022

*hint: close html tags

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fish

19 July 2022

Yeah….and then typepad at my html fix!

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fish

19 July 2022

…ate my html fix!

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Paul – have you actually had to deal one on one with the home less in Nevada County?
I have. On an ongoing basis.
When the Hospitality House was being re-vamped our local evil awful right wing Christian Churches jumped in to house overnight the homeless.
I never saw you there helping to feed and help them.
The help they really needed was so far beyond your simple minded left-wing fantasy-based BS printed by people that have never ever had to actually deal with these folks is so far off from reality it isn’t even funny.
A lot of these folks were off from the get go and most were beyond ever being truly viable assets to society. The help they need is complicated and extremely expensive.
Dealing with it by saying “Reagan closed the hospitals” is so insane and out of date it isn’t even funny.
Like all the left – Paul doesn’t really want to help anyone, he just wants to score cheap points against political people he doesn’t like.

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Thanks fishy!
Papa George doesn’t wanna have to stop the car.

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Paul Emery

19 July 2022

Scott
You still haven’t offered one bit of advice as to what we should do today. We recently had a police shooting of a young woman who was having an emotional breakdown and they shot her because she had a knife in her hand. That didn’t have to happen and if we had a psychiatric social worker trained to handle that kind of situation it wouldn’t have happened. I have offered temporary housing for several Nevada City homeless through the years. Have you done that? Also I was involved with the original incarnation of Hospitality House when Utah Phillips was alive and produced several fundraisers to help get things off the ground.

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Scott O

19 July 2022

“You still haven’t offered one bit of advice as to what we should do today.”
Still just dodging and weaving.
Let’s go back to Paul’s assertion that the problems of today are because of Reagan’s “closing down the hospitals”.
Paul is continuing to run from his own words.
How is today’s problem with the home less based on what Reagan did, Paul?
You are the one that brought it up and until you back it up, we go no further.
Waiting.

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Typical – “I have offered temporary housing for several Nevada City homeless through the years. Have you done that? Also I was involved with the original incarnation of Hospitality House when Utah Phillips was alive and produced several fundraisers to help get things off the ground.”
Ooh, name dropping gets you brownie points, right Paul?
“I have offered.” But you don’t say what psychotic
folk you have residing regularly with you. I have too.
But only for the ones I could trust and that wasn’t many.
“produced several fundraisers to help get things off the ground.”
That means you didn’t actually have to deal with the filthy beggars.
Good on you, Paul. like most all white lefties you just write a check and wash your hands.
You still haven’t backed up your previous statements.
What happened to the “Reagan caused the homeless problem” you previously spewed?
Run, little coward. Run, run, run!

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Paul – what does your 8:51 have to do with your comments about Reagan?

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fish

19 July 2022

See Scott….look at that man just push those goalposts….just look at em move!
Up thread it’s…..”So what solution do you propose Scott?” down here it’s “You still haven’t offered one bit of advice as to what we should do today”.
Of course there’s this…..

Paul – have you actually had to deal one on one with the home less in Nevada County?
I have. On an ongoing basis.
When the Hospitality House was being re-vamped our local evil awful right wing Christian Churches jumped in to house overnight the homeless.
I never saw you there helping to feed and help them.
The help they really needed was so far beyond your simple minded left-wing fantasy-based BS printed by people that have never ever had to actually deal with these folks is so far off from reality it isn’t even funny.
A lot of these folks were off from the get go and most were beyond ever being truly viable assets to society. The help they need is complicated and extremely expensive.
Dealing with it by saying “Reagan closed the hospitals” is so insane and out of date it isn’t even funny.
Like all the left – Paul doesn’t really want to help anyone, he just wants to score cheap points against political people he doesn’t like.

Trying to inject the Crawford shooting is just as I would expect…..low rent!

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Gregory

19 July 2022

punchy 851p
” We recently had a police shooting of a young woman who was having an emotional breakdown and they shot her because she had a knife in her hand.”
No punch, she was shot because she was chasing down a Deputy with a knife in her hand ready to strike. A screaming banshee.

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Just a simple knife. No one has ever hurt a soul with a knife. If only Paul had been there to tell a tale about how bad Reagan was to not fund the crooked bastards running the insane asylums 50 years ago, there would have been no problemo.

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Don Bessee

19 July 2022

The ponytail of ignorance is virtue signaling to the idiots who drama up the web and hate cops just look at the idiots commenting on that issue locally. Especially the ones who fantasize about the cop going jackie chan on her ass when the reality is that a thin blade knife will absolutely penetrate a vest.
What about her friends and family and the aclu who would sue to keep her out of treatment where were they?
She was dragging two kids down the middle of alta sierra drive while the school buses were dropping off kids and traffic was very heavy endangering the kids whos interest is the prime issue. You cannot even think for yourself and have not had an utterance in years that is not a talking point for lefties as we see on cnn, msnbc ad nauseum.
Look at the video you cop hater. They tried to get cooperation and tried to deescalate and tried a taser then she chased a deputy and his partner protected as he should.
We have to consider who you are and its more likely you had a need for another pair of hands to tape over the extension cords and let them crash after the after party.
Shame on you!
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Scott O

19 July 2022

Gregory – the narrative, dude, the narrative!
Paul would have been happy to take the knife in the chest if only they would have asked! He did a music show, fer God’s sake!
Anyway, Paul says it’s all Reagan’s fault for closing down the mental hospitals that Paul openly admits the Dems in charge haven’t done anything about since but Paul can’t think of one single Dem to name for this since it’s all Reagan’s fault.
Did I mention Reagan enough?
Anyway – Reagan and Reagan and Reagan.
Does that make everything all groovy?

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Scott O

19 July 2022

Don 9:35 – Dude – it’s all Reagan’s fault according to Paul Emery.
And since you haven’t come up with the perfect solution you are to blame as well.
The woman with the knife was just acting out of frustration with recent political events.

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Scott O

19 July 2022

What happened to Paul’s 4:08 ?
Dude – he had the Salon link.
Since then – ?
Paul was in the guard?
Shit – the dude can’t can’t even defend his own position.
“Well – Reagan”…
My neighbor’s wife could beat his ass with a broom.
Hell – we have ground dwelling animals that would chew his weenie off.

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Scott O

19 July 2022

OK – I’m getting tired of trying to get Paul to defend his position.
Here’s another great lefty BS story
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/doctor-provided-abortion-10-year-old-rape-victim-moves-sue-indiana-att-rcna38968
Read the story and keep in mind that the authors know that the girl’s rapist is a 27 year old illegal and the girl’s mother is trying to cover for the rapist (her boyfriend). And the baby killer doctor claimed that she actually didn’t know how old the father (rapist) was but she speculated (based on what?) that he was 17.
Now she is suing.
Yeah, the best defense is a good offense.
Man – you Dems rule!

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Bill Tozer

20 July 2022

Mystery solved: DOJ secretly thwarted release of Russia documents declassified by Trump
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/mystery-solved-doj-secretly-thwarted-release-russia

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Doornail Psul

20 July 2022

Mystery solved: DOJ secretly thwarted release of Russia documents declassified by Trump
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/mystery-solved-doj-secretly-thwarted-release-russia

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Dead Psul

20 July 2022

Mystery solved: DOJ secretly thwarted release of Russia documents declassified by Trump
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/mystery-solved-doj-secretly-thwarted-release-russia

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Bill Tozer

20 July 2022

Homelessness in Denmark and the Emerald Isle, 2022.
March 2022 Monthly Homeless Report and Homeless Quarterly Progress Report Quarter 1 2022 published
https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/e4cbe-monthly-homeless-report-for-march-2022-and-homeless-quarterly-progress-report-for-quarter-1-2022/
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Homelessness In A Welfare State: Perspectives From Copenhagen
https://humanityinaction.org/knowledge_detail/homelessness-in-a-welfare-state-perspectives-from-copenhagen/
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5 FACTS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS IN DENMARK
https://borgenproject.org/6-facts-about-homelessness-in-denmark/
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Kind of like France and Sweden saying there are no No Go Zones here
Conclusion: The Netherlands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtP39b5goxc

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psfish

20 July 2022

So psul…..any plans to comment on 600K homeless apartments and how that figures into your Denmark/Ireland homeless care methodology?
“We’re blue George…..blue I tells you…..BLUUUUUUE!”

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Paul Emery

20 July 2022

Can’t comment unless you provide a link fish

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psfish

20 July 2022

Posted by: Paul Emery | 20 July 2022 at 07:36 AM
Can’t comment unless you provide a link fish
Ordinarily I wouldn’t enable your questionable habits but since you made an honest attempt yesterday to do more than constantly whine for links like some sort of internet heroin user I’m going to help a brother out.
Once…..
This appears to be the freshest “junk” I can score! It’s from a connection you trust though!
https://www.latimes.com/homeless-housing/story/2022-06-20/california-affordable-housing-cost-1-million-apartment?_amp=true
You can do this psul….you can pry the monkey 🐒 off your back!

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Bill Tozer

20 July 2022

Liar psul, liar! Nobody believes what you have to say. Liar. You said $600,000 a homeless unit, not over a million dollars. From your link, I see a million dollars of lumber sitting at the construction site.
https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/e1ef5b2/2147483647/strip/true/crop/6000×4000+0+0/resize/840×560!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F2f%2F44%2F9bf660574be2b2ff108e6cc6dbff%2F974034-me-affordable-housing-costs-jpg021.jpg
I am not one to flaunt my wealth, but I would love to throw those boards in the back of the old pickup truck and drive about town. Have you seen the price of a four pound box of deck screws lately. Thanks a lot Democracts.

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Bill Tozer

20 July 2022

Opps. The above comment was directed at psfish, not Psul Emery. My mistake and deepest apologies to psfish.

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