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George Rebane

Why not indeed?  The existential evidence abounds of election fraud and irregularities having happened.  It exists just for the looking in forms of

  1. witnessed and sworn affidavits of polling place and vote counting wrongdoings;
  2. witnessed and video records of after-hours arrivals of thousands of unmailed ballots in unmarked vehicles;
  3. mass arrivals of ballots supporting Biden that fail simple statistical tests that attest to their numerical authenticity;
  4. demonstrated ease with which voting machine counts could be manipulated;
  5. recorded denials of access to vote processing observers;
  6. obvious gross numerical discrepancies between registered voters and votes cast;

Uncounted complaints of these infractions and irregularities have been filed across the land, and all have been rejected by our already dubious judicial system, not for lack of evidence, but on procedural grounds.  And these procedural grounds smell to high heaven that include the scurrilous use of ‘lack of standing’ of the plaintiff.  The legal notion of standing has no basis in constitutional law, and was only concocted in the 1920s to reduce an overly burdened case load on the courts as a means of avoiding/reducing adjudications.

What no court has done is to examine the evidence in open court and find any of it lacking in form, substance, and/or credibility.  In fact, the opposite findings have been issued to the effect that the unexamined evidence, even if verified, would not have materially changed the election’s outcome.  That is both false and a lie on the face of the vote counts presented in the reams of existing evidence.  And whether or not the evidence would change the election’s outcome is immaterial as a point of law.  What is important is to examine and conclude on the verity of the irregularities in the November election, and then prepare feasible remedies so that these will not be repeated in future elections.

All of this should be done in order to restore bipartisan confidence in our elections, especially the last one that saw copious amounts of dubious votes arrive in the dark of night to be surreptitiously counted in favor of the Democratic candidate.  So now on 6 January 2021, Congress will meet to go through what has been a pro forma certification of the electoral college votes.  However, this time dozens of Republican congress critters will rise to object to the electoral college counts.

Given the behavior of the courts, many Republican MOCs maintain with Sen Josh Hawley (R-MO) that “At the very least, Congress should investigate allegations of voter fraud and adopt measures to secure the integrity of our elections, but Congress has so far failed to act.”  Today’s count is fluid, but upwards of 140 MOCs now say they are willing to join in the rejection of electoral college votes, and demand that the collected evidence of fraud see the light of day.

Meanwhile leftwing propaganda organs like the LA Times maintain that “there is no evidence of voter fraud and the integrity of the election has been repeatedly affirmed at the state level, in the courts and in Washington.”  Joining in accepting the current election results, no matter how marred, are members of the Republican congressional leadership led by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

But given the highly polarized state of the nation and the countless controversies surrounding this election, the simple question remains, ‘Why not look at the evidence?’

Here and here are two recent, extensively referenced reports by John Lott and Peter Navarro that present in detail the case to be made for the existence, scope, and authenticity of the current body of election fraud evidence.  How would you judge an appeals process that dismisses even considering the examination of evidence only on the basis of the plaintiffs not having said the appropriate ‘Mother may I?’ at some point in bringing it to the attention of the courts?

[7jan21 update] More light on the matter from the Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society is presented in 'Set In Stone? – A Historical, Constitutional, and Legal examination of Electoral College Deadlines and their implications for the 2020 Presidential Election'  Download Electoral_College_Deadlines_White_Paper.

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110 responses to “Evidence – Why not look at the evidence? (updated 7jan21)”

  1. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    that would depend, punch.

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  2. Walt Avatar

    The Douchebag gives up on the damning video? Just waddle off and change the subject? The mark of a true loser.
    No tablecloths at OUR polling station. No place to hide boxes of “questionable” ballots. You know,, the kind that get run through the machines when everyone else was evacuated,, uh,, because a “pipe broke”.. Just too tired to keep counting…
    Pick your excuse Douchey. You can always try “The vid is a forgery”. You know,, what the Proggy Press tried to say.

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  3. Scott O Avatar

    Paul 2:55 – Don’t worry, Paul. Soon, the man you voted for even though you can’t find a single good thing to say about will be pres and then you’ll be able to blame Trump for everything forever.

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  4. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    I mean Gregory it would be a bit of a long process so what would happen in the meantime? Anything in the constitution about this situation?

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  5. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    What would be a long process, punch? It could all be over in a few days.

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  6. Walt Avatar

    As long as Emery’s guy “won*” he don’t care about how it happened. The evidence be damned. Does Emery remember how he felt with “chadgate”? I’m sure he felt(even to this day) that Bush “stole” that election. Look at the bright side Emery, LIBS found every excuse to count every ballot no matter how questionable.

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Those Dems are really making me loose faith in our institutions.
    Exit question. Who is this ‘Beorge’ whom Punchy doth beckon @ 12:19 pm? Whoever he/she is, Beorge did not come running.

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  8. RXCross Avatar
    RXCross

    In the category of “who is more likely to have better information 10 former Secretaries of Defense or the Trumpanzis at RR” – the ten SODs had this to say in a jointly signed statement:
    “Our elections have occurred. Recounts and audits have been conducted. Appropriate challenges have been addressed by the courts. Governors have certified the results. And the electoral college has voted. The time for questioning the results has passed…”
    Why don’t you people just give it up.. YOU LOST and the more you buy into trump’s insane con job, the less credibility you have on any future subject…the election, climate change, the virus, you name it and outside of these pages your credibility is null and void. You apparently really can fool some of the people all of the time. The ‘great rightwing crusade’ is over and trumpy killed it. He and his cronies over the top lies, scams, schemes, and bullcrap have exposed the conservative movement for what it really is….just another grift of getting harder to earn by the minute taxpayer dollars.

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Evidence? We can not make a conclusion. A con-clusion.
    https://www.facebook.com/318067381624704/posts/3549130571851686/

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  10. Walt Avatar

    Keep going Babs,, the one doing the “recount” are the same ones who did the “counting” the first time. Now think about that… Need some Rx to help with that?

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  11. Walt Avatar

    The buzzard of Broad St. was in his vineyard today stomping some whine about this.
    https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/03/trump-georgia-raffensperger-call-recording/
    Those votes Trump wanted him to find are kinda like the votes LIBS keep managing to turn up.. you know,, from under tables, in drawers, filing cabinets, back rooms,,, Car trunks? And weeks after election day no less,, demanding they be counted….

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  12. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    So Gregory can you share some of you’re ideas about who would conduct the investigation you cite as necessary. Also what would determine whether Trump remains President in the meantime. This is strange new territory that I’m not sure is covered in the Constitution.

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Oh… Has Stacey Abrams conceded the last Gov.’s race yet?
    Yet you expect Trump too?

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  14. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Conservative Tom Cotten speaks against having Congress determine the election:
    “The Founders (sic) entrusted our elections chiefly to the states– not Congress. They entrusted the election of our president to the people, acting through the Electoral College — not Congress. And they entrusted the adjudication of election disputes to the courts — not Congress. Under the Constitution and federal law, Congress’s power is limited to counting electoral votes submitted by the states,” said Cotton’s statement.
    He also argued that if the Senate continues to demand the election result be changed, “it would not only exceed that power, but also establish unwise precedents.”
    He explained that it would remove the power of the people to choose their president and other elected officials and put it “whichever party controls Congress.” Secondly, Cotton said that it would “imperil” the Electoral College, which many want to see removed because it is based on an antiquated system for an agrarian society that no longer exists.
    “Third,” Cotton closed, “Congress would take another big step toward federalizing election law, another long-standing Democratic priority that Republicans have consistently opposed.”
    https://www.rawstory.com/republican-opposes-trump-conspiracy/

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  15. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy… rawstory?

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  16. Scott O Avatar

    Kris-Kross 5:56 – “who is more likely to have better information 10 former Secretaries of Defense or the Trumpanzis at RR”
    Totally hilarious.
    Is this the same bunch of losers that told us the Biden laptop story was just Russian dis-info?
    Or is this some other klatch of professional mouth-movers spouting a pre-scripted line?
    You leftys need to come up with a more intelligent pack of liars to follow.
    The ‘information’ they have is meaningless when put up against the ‘narrative’ they are to follow.
    The last national election turned into a shit-show, regardless of who actually had the most honest votes. You lefty idiots are just too damn stupid to see what is coming. It isn’t that Biden was declared the winner – it was the deliberate effort by the Dems to poison the process.
    Once enough citizens lose faith in the system, we descend into a failed state.

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  17. George Rebane Avatar

    Our liberal readers believe that the only people in the country who are crazy enough not to accept the ‘cleanest and most transparent election’ in history are the conservatives of western Nevada County. This regardless of the growing national outcry to discover what really happened last November. We now read that –
    Over 400 people from the U.S. Intelligence Community (IC), military, law enforcement, and the judiciary have formed a loose network to investigate alleged irregularities in the 2020 election, an organizer of the group said.
    Robert Caron, one of the organizers, said that the network includes former intelligence officers, analysts, operatives, military, law enforcement, and judiciary from the FBI, CIA, Military Intelligence, DIA, and National Security Agency (NSA), among others, as well as many former intelligence officers in other countries.
    “The fraud was so massive and so blatant, despite what the mainstream media said, that we need to get this information out to the public,” said Caron. “That’s why more and more people from the intelligence community and law enforcement are coming out, which is unheard of.”

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/more-than-400-ex-intelligence-officers-to-investigate-election-irregularities_3640420.html

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  18. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Look at your source George-the Epoch Times. They are affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement based in the United States. You can read about them here:
    ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 907pm – again the messenger, not the message.

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  20. Scott O Avatar

    Paul complains about the F/G – so does Emperor Xi!
    Easy to see which side Paul goes with.
    Darn new religious movements.
    Some of them have even been quoted as believing that 1+1=2!
    Are you going to let your children listen to these nut cases?

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  21. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    wiki lies moderated by the socialist wokesters that’s rich @ 907! ROFLOL
    😉

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  22. D Avatar

    Let’s compare the Senate choice not to allow any testimony or evidence to be given in the Trump Impeachment.
    Trump and the Senate stonewalled and did everything in their power to deny and conceal the truth.
    Let’s see a count of hands from the Roundtable of those conservatives who wanted to “see the evidence” from respected career government officials – not random part time poll workers and Twitter trolls.
    The President is now leading this latest in a long list of conspiracy theories in an attempt at sedition by overturning verified election results.
    “If one member of each body of Congress objects, congressional rules require that lawmakers return to their chambers to vote on the merits.
    A simple majority vote in each chamber would overturn the challenge — something that should be easily achieved in the GOP-controlled Congress.
    Republicans dismissed the effort as a stunt, noting that specific allegations of voting problems in Ohio have been investigated by journalists and, the Republicans said, found to be untrue.
    “But apparently, some Democrats only want to gripe about counts, recounts, and recounts of recounts,” said Rep. Deborah Pryce, an Ohio Republican.
    “So eager are they to abandon their job as public servants, they have cast themselves in the role of Michael Moore, concocting wild conspiracy theories to distract the American public.”
    White House press secretary Scott McClellan dismissed the challenge as “partisan politics.”
    “The election is behind us,” he said. “The American people now expect their leaders in Washington to focus on the big priorities facing this country.”
    https://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote.1718/

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  23. Scott O Avatar

    Duh 7:02 – Ah, our Monday morning comedy show.
    “…not to allow any testimony or evidence to be given in the Trump Impeachment.”
    There was no evidence, Duh. There was no ‘high crime’ or ‘misdemeanor’. It was just a stupid pet trick for CNN to get all het up about since the Russia collusion BS fell apart.
    “Let’s see a count of hands from the Roundtable of those conservatives who wanted to “see the evidence” from respected career government officials – not random part time poll workers and Twitter trolls.”
    Total comedy – “respected career govt officals”
    You mean like the ones that had that solid evidence of Russian collusion and the ones that told us Biden’s lap top was just Russian dis-info?
    “…the big priorities facing this country.”
    Fair, clean and open elections should be priority one.
    If that isn’t cleared up, we don’t have a country.

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  24. D Avatar

    Yes Charmin, there is no evidence that Trump won.

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  25. D Avatar

    Not one Republican officeholder objecting to Biden’s victory have objected to their own wins, on the same day, on the same ballots, and using the same election systems.
    But Trump lemmings believe that Trump’s votes were messed with.

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  26. D Avatar

    Trump has the truth, and here it is,
    “We won very substantially in Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. We’d be getting 25-30,000 people a rally, and the competition would get less than 100 people.” – DJT Jan. 2, 2021

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  27. D Avatar

    More evidence submitted by Trump,
    “And we won the House, but we won every single statehouse, and we won Congress, which was supposed to lose 15 seats, and they gained, I think 16 or 17 or something. I think there’s a now difference of five. There was supposed to be a difference substantially more. But politicians in every state, but politicians in Georgia have given affidavits and are going to that, that there was no way that they beat me in the election, that the people came out, in fact, they were expecting to lose, and then they ended up winning by a lot because of the coattails. And they said there’s no way, that they’ve done many polls prior to the election, that there was no way that they won.”

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  28. Walt Avatar

    As usual, when “evidence” is presented RIGHT HERE,, the TROLL brothers ignore it outright. Kinda like the courts. Any excuse not to deal with it. From Emery’s rawsewage to Diarrhea’s CNNLOL.
    They can’t wait to see Chancellor Biden installed,, just to be removed for mental issues.Well, there is also being OWNED by China. Just to get their first ‘fake’ “woman of color” as chairman. Chairman Harris…. That has a scarry ring to it.

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  29. Walt Avatar

    Proof positive facts are irrelevant to proggys.
    Stick to the clickbait Douchey, it’s more believable to the likes of you.
    If the twitt press allowed it, it’s not real news.

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  30. D Avatar

    BBC WalDoH!™ but I don’t expect you are smart enough to understand.

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  31. Scott O Avatar

    Duh – There have been open admissions by Beeb higher-ups that the govt funded network is biased against anything political they don’t like.
    also
    “Yes Charmin, there is no evidence that Trump won.”
    You leftys continue the search for the deepest hole in the ground in which to stick your heads.
    It is a fact that the set up to this last election was done in a way to promote fraud and make it impossible to prove fraud.
    That is the issue.

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  32. D Avatar

    Charmin, what’s a Beeb?
    Charmin forgets there is a pandemic, and that is why some changes were made to election processes. Charmin, what will you think if the Georgia runoff totals are very close?

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  33. RXCross Avatar
    RXCross

    George 8:52 — As Paul stated earlier the “epoch times” was was founded by John Tang and a group of Chinese-American Falun Gong practitioners and was first published in 2000 IN CHINESE ONLY. Did you know that Epoch Times had over 600 facebook accounts taken down for passing on fake photos and information? Did you know that Epoch Times is considered questionable source for publishing Propaganda, Conspiracy, Pseudoscience, and Numerous Failed Fact Checks?
    Perhaps if you folks had better information you wouldn’t be making such fools of yourselves by believing trumps lies.. #SAD
    The messenger counts George, it’s not just the message when the messenger is bogus.

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  34. George Rebane Avatar

    RXCross 1155am – 1) today’s Epoch Times is not what it was then, things change – e.g. take a look at the NYT, once a great newspaper, now a leftwing propaganda rag; 2) wanna take a cut at disputing the message instead of beating the messenger?

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Can you document your view that the Epoch Times has evolved from what it was?

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  36. Scott O Avatar

    Kriss-Kross 11:55 – So you have no facts to dispute George’s 8:52 just as Paul couldn’t either. Got it.

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  37. D Avatar

    WalDoH!™ and the conspiracy wackos get their asses handed to them once again on national TV by Georgia election officials.
    Trump is busted for lying.

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  38. Scott O Avatar

    Duh 11:55 – No, Duh – I haven’t forgot (how can I?) about the Chinese-origin virus.
    That, in no way excuses untraceable and unverifiable mass voting by mail. My wife and I voted twice in person this last year. We had to show our photo ID. We and the thousands of others that did the same are fine. If you’re too frightened to vote in person, then you should request an absentee ballot exactly as has been the case in the past.
    No more early (or late) voting and no more mass mailing of untraceable ballots.
    Covid is no excuse for voting fraud.
    Oh, and you brought up the Beeb – why are you asking me about it?

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  39. Scott O Avatar

    Paul 12:06 – They have a web site, Paul. Why don’t you visit the site now and report back to us all the misinformation and lies?
    Oh – because you can’t.
    Nice try, Paul.

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  40. D Avatar

    Team Trump was shown the step by step video of State Farm Arena, then, Team Trump intentionally mislead the American people. Those who promote his lies are traitors.

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  41. D Avatar

    Georgia officials are outing Trump as the laughingstock he is.
    Lies and misstatements all debunked.

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  42. Walt Avatar

    The only one “busted for lying” is you Douchebag.TROLLS LIE….. That’s what they do.

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  43. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Georgia is tomorrow, I believe. If it worked like a charm in November, I see no reason for the Dems not to do it again. Only a downside if the Totalitarion Illiberal Black Shirts of the Lefties are honest
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgia-election-data-shows-17650-votes-switched-from-trump-to-biden-data-scientists_3640670.html

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  44. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Sad
    Bill is down to the level of linking to the Weirdo Christian website Epoch Times for information. Desperate and pitiful.
    “How The Epoch Times Created a Giant Influence Machine
    Since 2016, the Falun Gong-backed newspaper has used aggressive Facebook tactics and right-wing misinformation to create an anti-China, pro-Trump media empire.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/technology/epoch-times-influence-falun-gong.html

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Proudly submitted from The Patriot Post.

    And last… “Incredibly, 2021 is already dumber than 2020.” —Ben Shapiro

    Hmmm. If Amy Goodman had read The Epoch Times during Russiagate and Spy Gate affairs, she would not haved looked like a complete fool going on and on about the noose is tightening around Trump’s neck back then. Sounds familiar on this site..
    There is a reason Canada would grant Amy permission to enter their country with the unequivocal agreement that she must vacate Canada within 48 hours, no exceptions, press credentials or not, lol. Even our liberal friends to the north can’t stomach ‘that woman’
    Georgia on my mind. That red clay reminds me of our Red Congressional District, especially the Redding area.

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  46. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1206pm – no need to as ScottO points out, especially if you believe Cross’ assessment of the early years of ET. Besides, I’m more of ‘message’ than ‘messenger’ guy, and I’ve yet to find any ET bloopers. But you can point them out to us.

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  47. D Avatar

    ET is coincidentally in the news today,
    “Although Falun Gong has repeatedly denied links to the Epoch Times, Li has referred to them as “our media.” The publication, not surprisingly, also frequently runs stories promoting Shen Yun performances.
    Like Shen Yun, the Epoch Times relies on advertising blitzes to increase its reach. An October 2020 investigation by the New York Times’ Kevin Roose found dozens of Facebook pages linked to the Epoch Times, each filled with “feel-good videos and viral clickbait.” Roose reported the outlet spent $1.5 million over seven months to increase its reach on Facebook with ads. Once brought into the funnel with clickbait content, the Epoch Times would hit readers with offers to subscribe.
    In August 2019, however, Facebook banned the Epoch Times from advertising on the platform for violating its transparency rules. The Times then shifted its budget to YouTube. NBC News reported at the height of its online spending, content from the Epoch Times and its video counterpart New Tang Dynasty (NTD) combined for 3 billion views on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter in a single month. That was more reach than any other mainstream news publisher.
    As its pro-Trump content proliferated, so did its access to Trump’s world. According to the Washington Post, Epoch Times reporters have received special access from the Trump administration. Its sit-down interview series “American Thought Leaders” is a who’s who of Team Trump. They’ve interviewed Gen. Michael Flynn, Newt Gingrich, Sidney Powell, Alan Dershowitz and Rep. Devin Nunes — just in the last two months. And, in a big win for the Falun Gong, the group was actually mentioned by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in November.”
    https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/what-is-Epoch-Times-Falun-Gong-15839640.php

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  48. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    The Epoch Times must be true if these resident libnuts hate it.

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  49. L Avatar
    L

    Sorry Keach has a problem with Falun Gong (aboudt whom I know next to nothing), but he’s in good company. The ruling CCP has such a dim view they use followers as organ donors (without permission, of course).
    Funny how our lefties pick their friends- during the Cold War, Paul, Rx and Keach could have been relied upon to pick the Soviet side, now they’ll always side with the Chicoms.
    Pathetic, treasonous and completely predictable.

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