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George Rebane

Why not indeed?  The existential evidence abounds of election fraud and irregularities having happened.  It exists just for the looking in forms of

  1. witnessed and sworn affidavits of polling place and vote counting wrongdoings;
  2. witnessed and video records of after-hours arrivals of thousands of unmailed ballots in unmarked vehicles;
  3. mass arrivals of ballots supporting Biden that fail simple statistical tests that attest to their numerical authenticity;
  4. demonstrated ease with which voting machine counts could be manipulated;
  5. recorded denials of access to vote processing observers;
  6. obvious gross numerical discrepancies between registered voters and votes cast;

Uncounted complaints of these infractions and irregularities have been filed across the land, and all have been rejected by our already dubious judicial system, not for lack of evidence, but on procedural grounds.  And these procedural grounds smell to high heaven that include the scurrilous use of ‘lack of standing’ of the plaintiff.  The legal notion of standing has no basis in constitutional law, and was only concocted in the 1920s to reduce an overly burdened case load on the courts as a means of avoiding/reducing adjudications.

What no court has done is to examine the evidence in open court and find any of it lacking in form, substance, and/or credibility.  In fact, the opposite findings have been issued to the effect that the unexamined evidence, even if verified, would not have materially changed the election’s outcome.  That is both false and a lie on the face of the vote counts presented in the reams of existing evidence.  And whether or not the evidence would change the election’s outcome is immaterial as a point of law.  What is important is to examine and conclude on the verity of the irregularities in the November election, and then prepare feasible remedies so that these will not be repeated in future elections.

All of this should be done in order to restore bipartisan confidence in our elections, especially the last one that saw copious amounts of dubious votes arrive in the dark of night to be surreptitiously counted in favor of the Democratic candidate.  So now on 6 January 2021, Congress will meet to go through what has been a pro forma certification of the electoral college votes.  However, this time dozens of Republican congress critters will rise to object to the electoral college counts.

Given the behavior of the courts, many Republican MOCs maintain with Sen Josh Hawley (R-MO) that “At the very least, Congress should investigate allegations of voter fraud and adopt measures to secure the integrity of our elections, but Congress has so far failed to act.”  Today’s count is fluid, but upwards of 140 MOCs now say they are willing to join in the rejection of electoral college votes, and demand that the collected evidence of fraud see the light of day.

Meanwhile leftwing propaganda organs like the LA Times maintain that “there is no evidence of voter fraud and the integrity of the election has been repeatedly affirmed at the state level, in the courts and in Washington.”  Joining in accepting the current election results, no matter how marred, are members of the Republican congressional leadership led by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

But given the highly polarized state of the nation and the countless controversies surrounding this election, the simple question remains, ‘Why not look at the evidence?’

Here and here are two recent, extensively referenced reports by John Lott and Peter Navarro that present in detail the case to be made for the existence, scope, and authenticity of the current body of election fraud evidence.  How would you judge an appeals process that dismisses even considering the examination of evidence only on the basis of the plaintiffs not having said the appropriate ‘Mother may I?’ at some point in bringing it to the attention of the courts?

[7jan21 update] More light on the matter from the Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society is presented in 'Set In Stone? – A Historical, Constitutional, and Legal examination of Electoral College Deadlines and their implications for the 2020 Presidential Election'  Download Electoral_College_Deadlines_White_Paper.

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110 responses to “Evidence – Why not look at the evidence? (updated 7jan21)”

  1. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    I suspect there’s no upside for Dems for looking at the evidence… right now, they have a presumption of no widespread illegal votes. Open the door even just a crack…

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  2. Scott O Avatar

    The real question is: “do you want open and clean elections” or “I just want my side to win”?
    It’s really not ironic that the yahoos that shout the loudest about !DEMOCRACY! are the very same that do their best to destroy it.

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  3. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Its the new red guard folks.
    😉

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  4. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    We are bombarded every day with ridiculous lawsuits into the system and many are mover along by the same spineless judges disallowing the Trump evidence hearings. Term limits for spineless judges.

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  5. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    So we treat the manchurian candidate like they treated the prez, not my president.
    😉

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  6. D Avatar

    Republicans looking for evidence of voter fraud,
    https://sfw.so/uploads/posts/2017-08/thumbs/1503505495_1.jpg

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  7. Walt Avatar

    So all the TROLL has is a stupid picture?
    OK TROLL,, care to explain away the video of vote tampering?
    “Evacuate” the building for a supposed water main break, and 5 stay behind to keep counting “votes”?( that were stashed under the tables.)
    But HEY!! You found a Proggy pic….

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  8. Walt Avatar

    How the LIBS cry foul….But it was just fine when THEY did it.(with no proof whatsoever.)
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-who-praised-2004-objections-to-electoral-college-certification-now-slam-hawley

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  9. D Avatar

    WalDoH!™ that was obviously you in the pic.
    Here is the real truth about your video, not the QANN, Fox, BrainlessBrat, Patriot Post version.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-georgia-shredding-ballots/fact-check-videos-do-not-show-ballots-being-shredded-in-georgia-idUSKBN2862BS

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  10. L Avatar
    L

    Keach @ 4:39- Match your attached video to Walt’s 3:32. Notice anything odd-like your video isn’t the one he is discussing.

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  11. Walt Avatar

    Here D-,, We know your factually challenged.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEpy89d5aW4
    What your Fake News won’t show you.

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, since Donald Trump ran the cleanest most secure election in US history with zero evidence of fraud, I suppose there is “no there there” and its all a big waste of time.
    OTOH, maybe somebody can look into why the vote counting was stopped for only the second time in US history; the first time ever was one sole county in FL in 2000 being Broward County. Now voting stopped in 5 or so states in one election??
    Maybe somebody could find out why. And why that somebody is at it, explain how “not enough illegal votes to swing an election” had the sheer volume of those ‘not enough votes” break the algorithm is such fashion that it became abundantely clear that hundreds of thousands of votes were being manufactured. Broke so bad you could not even pretend to defend it. So…..the only the Lying Left has is ‘Deny, deny deny all of it.’ All of it. Never happened. And thats where we are at.
    Gregory said it best, first comment.
    “I suspect there’s no upside for Dems for looking at the evidence… right now, they have a presumption of no widespread illegal votes. Open the door even just a crack…:
    Posted by: Gregory | 01 January 2021 at 05:54 PM

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Bill… That would be,,, like,,, D- trying to prove it’s not a TROLL.

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  14. D Avatar

    Man o’ Manischewitz! WalDoH!™ and “L” you bozos are so brainwashed it is hilarious. Every lame ass QAnon fantasy has been debunked but you guys are so blind you cannot comprehend it.
    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/04/facebook-posts/no-georgia-election-workers-didnt-kick-out-observe/

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  15. Walt Avatar

    The TROLL is up? At this hour?
    Yup, you believe what the FAKE NEWS feeds you.
    So numbnuts, why did everyone LEAVE?(except for four.)
    And Ballots are ALWAYS kept stashed under draped tables.

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  16. L Avatar
    L

    Keach @ 7:16- You were expecting a confession, perhaps?

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  17. D Avatar

    Convenient QAnon MAGA excuses WalDoH!™ Just discount any and every fact check because it does not jive with Trump’s narrative. You are as dumb as a Nazi foot soldier, or a Jim Jones groupie.
    “Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified.”
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/694890328273346560?s=19

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  18. D Avatar

    The evidence is clear, Trump is guilty,
    ‘I just want to find 11,780 votes’: “In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor” – WaPo
    The Trumpkin is obviously demented.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Q: ‘Evidence – Why not look at the evidence?’—George Rebane
    A: Because they have something to hide. Textbook behavior.

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  20. D Avatar

    The evidence has been looked at and found to be Kraken droppings.

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  21. D Avatar

    Here are the clips of Trump attempting to commit fraud,
    https://wapo.st/2MlD8ga

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  22. Walt Avatar

    The TROLL has the squirts. The smell…. OH GOD the SMELL…..
    The Daily Caller do some house cleaning of all your TROLL accounts?
    The TROLL forgets the Proggy line… “Accusers MUST be believed”. And we have PLENTY. Under OATH even. Was you Ball-less Ford ever under oath? And NO ONE to back up her story.
    Naaa,, “no evidence” says the TROLL with Proggy diaria.
    Just proof of a thousand dead people voting in Nevada. ” Not enough voter fraud to change the election”. Can the TROLL tell us who made that statement?

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  23. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Beorge
    I am wondering if you have listened to tne Wa Post recordings of Trump that are all over the news and what you think of them. Here’s a link:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/audio-trump-berates-ga-secretary-of-state-urges-him-to-find-votes/2021/01/03/aba64f5f-8c3c-490f-af34-618ccea732d7_video.html

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  24. Walt Avatar

    It OK Emery,, it’s just politics.
    Nothing as damning as the “crack” Hunter Biden laptop files.
    You HAVE heard about those,,,, right? Still backing “damaged goods” Biden?

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  25. D Avatar

    WalDoH!™, the mudhole snorkeler, is going full caps now! More proof of his derangement.
    Still waiting for the HunterGate investigation to begin – oh, right, there won’t be one because Trump cannot convince anyone else to lie and cheat for him.

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  26. D Avatar

    Evidence? Sidney released the Kraken droppings and everyone laughed.

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  27. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    True news from DJT to Raffensperger. That dumbass screwed up the entire election in GA by failing to lead and being afraid. Only leaders belong in office. Raffensperger is no leader. He is a lying politician.

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  28. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Barry
    there were numerous recounts amd omvestigations that showed no problem. What more do you want?

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  29. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Paul Ryan is also a professional politician. Lol. We are done with professional politicians.

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  30. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Because they have something to hide. Textbook behavior.”
    Yes, it is. Sit back and enjoy the show.

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  31. D Avatar

    “True news from DJT to Raffensperger”? What does that mean? Bar, are you saying you believe everything Trump says?
    Jeez, talk about a lying politician.
    Hilarious

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  32. D Avatar

    Bar, do remember Trump’s crowd size lies from back in 2017. Man, what suckers the Trump lemmings are!

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hit a hot button. How come they are going ballistic saying this was the most secure election we ever had? If so if appears there is no there there. Full stop, period, and the song and dance. Don’t make sense unless they really got a lot to hide.
    Everytime Someone says something don’t add up or, “Good Lord, I can smell the rats”, the Lefties get triggered bigtime. Everytime someone says anything about election fraud, they always say, “aTrump,Trump,Trump. a Trump. And Bush did it too!!!”
    Well, let’s take Trump completely out of the occasion and let’s look to see if any monkey business went down. Thousands of depositions. Thousands. No big deal, Its all bogus they assure me.
    I say something smells rancid, stinkier than the rotten smell in Denmark. And they reply, “Trump, Trump, Trump.”
    If you stand back and ask who was the biggest winner of the election, hands down the winner is China. They came out on top.
    “Trump, Trump, Trump!”

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  34. George Rebane Avatar

    We note that our liberal readers still have no idea that the evidence has NOT been looked at; all the filed complaints have been dismissed on procedural grounds. Those who only consume/believe lamestream outlets have no idea that this is the case as they continue to inform us of their ignorance (e.g. @1048am).
    More specifically, no authority has yet to identify a single sworn affidavit and demonstrate that it is false and feloniously submitted. (And then, of course, bring charges against the alleged witness.)

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  35. D Avatar

    Bill is doubling down the number of affidavits flying around. Trump is making up all kinds of vote irregularity numbers. Birds of a feather…
    “The Trump campaign has repeatedly cited the hundreds of sworn affidavits it has assembled. It has even shown stacks of them to illustrate the supposed heft of its legal case. Many of them are not available because they haven’t been filed in actual lawsuits or made available publicly. (Giuliani cited the alleged targeting of their authors for keeping them obscured.)
    But among the witnesses who have had their allegations aired in court, many have been dismissed by judges as inadmissible or not credible. One particularly high-profile one alleged many precincts in Michigan had more votes than actual voters, but shortly after Giuliani et al. raised the issue Thursday — alongside their pleas to take the affidavits seriously — it fell apart.
    As the Trump campaign will remind you, these are sworn statements. But according to legal experts, the jeopardy faced by those behind them is relatively minimal.
    “There is a remote chance that sworn statements (if they are actually sworn statements — most documents that appear to be ‘sworn’ don’t count within the meaning of the statute) could subject the declarant to some exposure under the perjury statutes,” said Lisa Kern Griffin, an expert on evidence at Duke University, in an email. “But perjury prosecutions are rare and almost never arise from statements outside of the context of proceedings in which oaths are formally administered — such as depositions, congressional testimony, grand jury proceedings, or trial testimony.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/20/affidavit-giuliani-vote-fraud/

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  36. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    golly, D… just sit down and shut up.
    I want to see the evidence. And so do you.

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  37. D Avatar

    Yes, let’s see the admissible evidence that is provable!

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  38. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Randomly taking words from Black’s Dictionary I see Doug. 😂😂🤷🏻‍♂️

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  39. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    And what do you mean when you say “provable”,”D”?
    There are no Perry Mason moments in election law. No one will break down on a witness chair stating they did it. They killed Papa Doc with that voodoo that they do so well.
    There will be evidence, and it will either be plausible or it won’t.

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  40. D Avatar

    Bar, you see, the problem is much of the so called evidence is that it consists of lies and BS. My 123pm also refutes George’s propaganda that no affidavits or allegations, or so called evidence has been looked at.
    “But among the witnesses who have had their allegations aired in court, many have been dismissed by judges as inadmissible or not credible. One particularly high-profile one alleged many precincts in Michigan had more votes than actual voters, but shortly after Giuliani et al. raised the issue Thursday — alongside their pleas to take the affidavits seriously — it fell apart.
    “There is a remote chance that sworn statements (if they are actually sworn statements — most documents that appear to be ‘sworn’ don’t count within the meaning of the statute) could subject the declarant to some exposure under the perjury statutes,”

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  41. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Gregory
    Georgia has already examined the evidence for their state and didn’t find any problem.

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    punchy 152pm
    … and now they can do it again. Out in the open.

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  43. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    So Gregory you don’t trust the Republicans in Georgia that conducted the investigations to be honest.

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  44. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Nope. Not one bit. They need to examine the absentee ballot signatures against the voter registrations. GA election officials refuse. They are playing games and covering their asses because they screwed up.

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  45. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    I don’t even trust Libertarians, if they were involved in the procurement of Venezuelan voting machine technology.

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  46. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    So what is the remedy Bary? Some kind of federal action against the State?

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  47. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    punchy 241pm
    some kind of action, like a rejection of the Electors they sent? That would do.

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  48. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Gregory
    Then would Trump remain president?

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