[The Nunes memo is out and may be read here on Politico and other sites. I've added a link to download Kim Strassel's 2feb18 WSJ column 'Memo Reading for Nonpartisans' here - Download Memo Reading for Nonpartisans. Lots to consider and discuss. gjr]
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103 responses to “Sandbox – 2feb18 (Nunes memo edition)”
LIBS are in full damage control…. On the Bismark.
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I’ve read the released Nunes memo on Axio…fascinating stuff.
Earlier, I read a piece by Kimberly Strassel at the WSJ on what she thought should be looked for… and damned if just about all of it was covered.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/memo-reading-for-nonpartisans-1517530297
The link to Strassel from RCP might be readable for non-subscribers
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
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https://www.axios.com/read-nunes-memo-fbi-doj-fisa-mueller-7fb8bcb7-1f18-4294-aa95-628d2f67bcdf.html
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Gregory 947am – Thanks for the reminder Gregory. I intended to link to Strassel’s column but was concerned about the paywall. Got around it by making it into a downloadable pdf. It’s an important companion piece to the Nunes memo.
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Pretty much a nothing burger!!! What a hoot!!! I had a feeling Nunes was grandstanding,,,for his own benefit!!!
OMG!!!
GeeWhiz,,,
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What a dud
Involves Carter Page who was by Trumps own definition an insignificant part of Trumps campaign. Nothing about Flynn for example.
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About those plaintive wails from Washington…..
Nunes memo released: FBI objections lacked credibility given bureau’s shady past
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/02/02/trump-nunes-memo-russia-investigation-fbi-congress-bovard-column/1088740001/
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OK,, I was wrong… No redactions.
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What the party parrots @1122,1123 fail to realize is that the fuse has been lit. The dems all have egg on their faces because there is no national security information, just the facts on using a false file to get a judge to issue the warrant and counter signatures from team 0’s usual subjects. Does anyone think that judge is amused by this revelation?
This is only the beginning of this story and the end of the failed rancid Russian dressing narrative. 😉
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Paul: Blatant violation of Mr. Page’s fourth amendment rights is not a dud. I don’t care who he is. Think about this. Comey was predetermining the outcome of the Hillary investigation before her interview, but he is withholding information from the FISA court to spy on Trump associates. That’s all I need to know about him. Sure looks like the FBI top officials had a finger on the scale of Justice.
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With the primary vote just a few months away the trend line for team D is extremely negative. The bounce from the SOTUS is massive and has reset the general inclination from heavy dem lean to a TIE. The real indication of how bad it is for the dems is this-
http://theweek.com/speedreads/752743/dnc-reportedly-dead-broke-rnc-nearly-40-million
😉
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Read em and weep team socialist –
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/02/media-fail-trump-job-approval-economy-soars-51/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/02/economy-adds-200000-jobs-january-beating-expectations/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/02/wages-jump-highest-level-2009/
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Conservative Republican Trey Gowdy responds today. Makes any move towards deumping Mueller difficult.
Here’s a tweed from Gowdy
“As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The contents of this memo do not – in any way – discredit his investigation.”
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Barry
Are you confident you know enough about the whole story to arrive at this conclusion. Do you support the Democrats releasing their version?
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OH Paul. Trying to pick a fight with a lawyer who knows his sh*t?
Good luck with that. You can’t even get your own profession right.
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Donnie boy, the DOW is down 500,,,don’t jump!!!
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WAlt
Why are you opposed to the Democrats releasing their version?
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Absolutely. Release everything.
My problem is this. I speak Russian and make calls to Russia regularly. We talk about the world cup in Nizhni Novgorod and occasionally about politics (which goes poorly generally because my Russian friends love Putin). What if based upon my contacts and using false information to the FISA court, the FBI conducts FISA surveillance on me using such false information to the FISA court, and they call me for an interview, and I don’t remember a conversation exactly? Do I get charged with obstruction even though I did nothing wrong? All do respect to Gowdy, it does not discredit Mueller’s investigation but it certainly raises a cloud of the political motivations for starting it. In any event, the FBI IG report will come out in March (which allegedly was the basis for “firing” McCabe) and it will shed more light on these important issues.
This memo is just one piece of a puzzle which will come to light whether or not liberals and the mainstream media want it to.
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Barry, did you forget to factor in the Comey letter that cost Hillary the election?
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Punchy 1218pm
Do you deny the memo shows that the FISA court didn’t get full and unbiased disclosures of the nature and origin of the “dossier” on multiple occasions? before granting warrants to ‘wiretap’ subjects?
I suspect the happiest person in the country in this moment is Carter Page, and his lawyer.
For a walk down memory lane, here’s ABC news last April
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-president-trumps-unsubstantiated-wiretapping-claims/story?id=46198888
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We don’t know Gregory because the so called “memo” was cherry picked information and the FBI has stated that it’s only part of the story. Surprised you support a process that allows “grave” (according to the FBI and DOJ) information to be released to the public without their support. Your support is odd to me.
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Paul isn’t picking a fight. We are just discussing the issues rationally. I think that Paul and I are in agreement that (1) this memo is not the whole story and (2) light is the greatest disinfectant. It is interesting watching the cockroaches scurrying about now that the light was turned on. My personal opinion. These FBI guys are not living in a vacuum. Comey did not get to be the FBI director only because he is smart. He is a political animal just like the rest of them – and therein lies the problem. He was not in a vacuum. The Clinton investigation was going on and he knew that she may very well become his boss. The right thing to do was to charge her for blatant violations of federal law, but how do you do that personally? It takes a lot of integrity to do the right thing knowing a high likelihood your career could be over. I don’t think that the political animals played it down the middle which is evidenced by McCabe’s firing and the texts between the Strzok and Page.
Honestly absent Clinton’s corruption and illegal acts thus putting these guys in this awkward position, none of this would have happened. Takes huevos to go after the Clintons and Comey did not have them, but apparently he had huevos to go after Trump backed up with unverified information.
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WOW! The po’ ol’ fakenewsman is now a FBI fan boy. That’s gonna put an end to free drinks for the po’ ol’ party parrot! 😉
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“Barry, did you forget to factor in the Comey letter that cost Hillary the election?” Your statement assumes that he cost Hillary the election which cannot be verified. Again, they had to do something so they played it down the middle.
Hillary was routed in the electoral college for ignoring certain states. She won the popular vote (New York and California) but ignored the Constitution. Shocking that she ignored the Constitution I might add.
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Why Paul? It’s misinformation, by design.
Look how loud they howled on this little tidbit.
Where are the security issues?
All the noise is to protect their moles.
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Once again Don B has nothing to add to the discussion and only response with personal attacks.
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typo “only responds”
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So, Paul… where is the classified information in the released memo?
It’s embarrassing as hell to people in the FBI and DOJ not used to being called out, not classified or a “grave” threat to the Republic.
Schiff will work on his memo, which might be further along had he been working on it as hard as he’d been working on discrediting Nunez. The GOP majority will do their due diligence in slowing its release down as much as is politically possible.
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Their words not mine Gregory
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Since it pretty clear the investigation of Trump was done under false pretense, someone tell me just why it should go on.
False info, false witness.
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punchy 100pm
“Surprised you support a process that allows “grave” (according to the FBI and DOJ) information to be released to the public without their support. Your support is odd to me.”
Paul, your localized amnesia is noted and does seem very odd to me.
How many years of sucking down government checks does it take before you start trusting the FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA and the rest of the alphabets spokesmen justifying secrecy and secret federal courts? Is that a belief of “green libertarians” of which I was previously unaware?
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I offer my broader comments of the Nunes memo in the context of the Deep State here –
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2018/02/deep-states-rogue-roots.html
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Alan Dershowitz makes some very salient points. Per Dershowitz, partisanship has overrun this entire fiasco, and it is time to appoint a non-partisan commission to tell the American people what happened. Interesting idea but who are these non-partisans???
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/02/alan-dershowitz-nunes-fisa-memo-deserves-more-investigation-time-for-nonpartisan-commission.html
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BarryP 216pm – For broader discussions of Deep State operations, I invite you to consider ‘Deep State’s Rogue Roots’. In answer to your question, the organization ‘No Labels’ (see ‘The Invisible Nunes Memo’) would make a claim for that role. But I also view all self-declared non-partisans with a gimlet eye.
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Barry P, there ain’t no such thang as a non-partisan blue ribbon commission with teeth.
With all due respect to Prof. Dershowitz, a thoughtful Democrat but still a Democrat:
This is a problem of Democrats Gone Wild!, borne of thinking there won’t be repercussions under President Hillary. Partisan Republicans should do their best imitation of being reflective and knowledgeable legislators in rooting out the problems. That’s the system we have; it’s messy, but their team won and it is their turn at bat.
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Gregory
Well you are nresorting to personal attacks with your “How many years of sucking down government checks…”snark which renders the rest of your comment meaningless. Can you quantify what government checks you are talking about?
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I swear I only tried to post the 239 once!
George, had I been chewing gum I would have swallowed it listening to NPR All Things Considered last night… a former CIA mucky muck was being touted as a neutral observer BECAUSE he served under GOP and DEM presidents… he was appointed Deputy Director by Clinton, was interim director when George Tenet stepped down, served through Obama’s term.
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/01/582513387/former-cia-director-weighs-in-on-potential-release-of-gop-memo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._McLaughlin
He didn’t say what his party registration was but his five minutes on NPR was wretchedly partisan and one sided.
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Punchy 245pm
Any government checks, Paul.
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Is anyone surprised that the po’ ol’ fakenewsman is ignoring my 1210, 1215 with his whine @1245. What no predictions on the blue wave to come? Tea leafs no telling you what you want?
Emery?
Emery?
Emery?
😉
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What the hell are you talking about Bessee? You live in your own little world and I’ve never known anyone else who stutters while writing.
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Gregory
Iw that the best you can do? You’re slipping badly.
Oh you mean my social security. What is your problem with that? Are you saying because I receive Social Security it taints my opinion? I did work for it and paid into it. I’m sure then you’re not going to accept yours when the time comes.
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Paul, you’ve been slipping since your ad hom at 100pm.
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Gregory 258pm – No prob Gregory, I pulled it when I saw it. And yes, I had some unexpected regurgitations this morning also when I listened to out and out lies on NPR this morning.
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No Gregory. I’m pissed because you some how want to tie my
Social Security to my ability to comment on this topic. You can do better than this my friend. Makes you look really lame. You don’t have to drop to the level of Bessee or Todd. You actually are very insightful. Why are you stooping to this level?
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why your 100pm, Paul?
I figured there must be something causing you to get on your knees to the spooks telling you what to think, government checks are a common thing.
Have you figured out how long it will be before you’re no longer getting a fair return on your dollars (despite them not being invested in the meantime) and just getting Manna from other people’s kids paychecks?
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Are you going to decline Social Security Gregory?
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And continuing to dodge the issues from my 310 is the po’ ol’ fakenewsman @4. 😉
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Don Bessee –
I can’t tune into my radio at the moment.
Would you kindly give us your daily stock market report and what Trump did to drive the rally?
Much appreciated. Thanks.
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Don
Don’t have a clue what you’re talking about Don. I challenge anyone t make sense of Dons posts.
Try again with the question
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No Paul, I’m sucking down every penny and biting the hand that feeds me, for its own good. Starting with survivor’s benetfits and Pell Grants that helped pay the bills for my kid’s University education, at.least until Harvard started paying him to attend there.
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