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Sandbox – 19aug20

19 August 2020

[Please keep Nevada County fire comments under the appropriate topic headings. gjr]

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246 responses to “Sandbox – 19aug20”

Scott O

22 August 2020

Paul 10:09 – Please notice after their names it says “former”?
Sounds like a list of has-beens with a bad case of sour grapes.

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paul emery

22 August 2020

Idaho looks like a good place for you Todd. You’re welcome here though as a relic of the old days when Republicans ran wild. We could even name a bench after you and you can give lectures to tourists. We really honor our historical relics here and you certainly qualify. You can even give tours where your trash development was planned in Glenbrook.

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Gregory

22 August 2020

My ears!
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/21/scott_adams_brain-dead_race_hoaxer_joe_biden_is_the_biggest_asshole_in_america.html
F-bombs abound. He is registering to vote and he thinks Biden is the biggest asshole in America.

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Gregory

22 August 2020

A happy fun fact from Dilbert’s dad… Biden’s speech was the shortest DNC nomination acceptance speech in history.

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paul emery

22 August 2020

Here’s more:
Colin Powell on Sunday became the latest notable Republican or former military leader to express concern about President Donald Trump, saying he’ll vote for Joe Biden in November instead.
The former secretary of State said that by threatening last week to use active-duty U.S. troops against protesters, Trump showed he has “drifted away” from the U.S. Constitution.
“He is now the candidate, and I’ll be voting for him,” Powell, perhaps the most prominent black Republican in the U.S., said of Biden on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
Powell, 83, was the top diplomat under Republican President George W. Bush and before that served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and as National Security Adviser.
He joins a number of prominent retired military officials as well as current and former lawmakers to criticize Trump, although not all have said they’ll vote for Biden. Powell has also said he didn’t vote for Trump in 2016.
Senator Mitt Romney of Utah, a long-term antagonist of Trump, has suggested he’ll write in his wife’s name in November. The New York Times reported that Cindy McCain, widow of Republican Senator John McCain, is likely to vote for Biden. Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska said last week’s she’s “struggling” to support Trump. And former President George W. Bush and his brother Jeb, a former Florida governor, are other possible Biden voters.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-07/powell-slams-trump-troop-deployment-threat-as-out-of-line

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paul emery

22 August 2020

Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t see vast numbers of Democratic notables defecting to Trump. This is another reflection of the general disgust the public has for our liar in Chief.

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paul emery

22 August 2020

No movement words Trump in the last few weeks in the RCP delegate map-Biden still up by 97. Trump has to win 75% of the tossups to pull off a win.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/2020_elections_electoral_college_map.html

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scenes

22 August 2020

” Biden’s speech was the shortest DNC nomination acceptance speech in history.”
Probably the guy running the strings got tired.
Gotta love how Paul is bringing up the opinions of a bunch of beltway Republican bureaucrats, largely CFR members and folks who love to blow up brown people in the Middle East.
I expect there was a time when the crack KVMR news team wasn’t busy fellating neo-cons and GoogleCIAAmazonNSAFBI, but the orders came from on-high, timed along with the DNC national carnival, to get the word out. It’s funny how shallow those anti-corporate and anti-war roots really are, but I can’t say that I’m surprised.
To our local ‘progressives’ there’s no such thing as morality, just opportunity.

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fish

22 August 2020

Posted by: scenes | 22 August 2020 at 12:00 PM
Shorter Punchy: “Not OrangeManBad…..good”.
No matter how Neoconned his new heroes were in their various incarnations. The same idiots who Punchy excoriated for Iraq he now beams at as thoughtful patriots and statesmen!

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Don Bessee

22 August 2020

The thing the pony tail of ignorance wants to forget is that masses of nameless former dem voters have shifted to the prez. A gaggle of neocons mean nothing in the real world. LOL
😉

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scenes

22 August 2020

“The same idiots who Punchy excoriated for Iraq he now beams at as thoughtful patriots and statesmen!”
It’s pretty crazy, I can tell you.
Notice how all of that anti-war guff (which could be reasonable, I can see leaving Afghanistan completely alone after putting the fear of God into the Taliban and then leaving) ebbs and flows depending on which party (pro-business Republicans or pro-business/pro government worker Democrats) is in power.
Trump scales down all of this, pulls troops out of various places, intends to pull troops out of others…it doesn’t matter. Anti-war sentiment is pure BS, mainly a tool used for political reasons. It was all fake to begin with.
Paul gets my lack of respect not because he is unusual for his class, but because he represents the typical lack of integrity held by those people. It’s just that he’s handy and deserves the occasional rant.

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Bill Tozer

22 August 2020

Guess the Dems are celebrating Biden coming out with his rusty zipper up and he didn’t stumble and take a nose dive on camera. With expectations that low, with the bar set on inches above the ground, the Dems took one big collective sigh of relief. Fine speech, exactly the kind of stump speech Obama delivered when he was running in 2008. The big unifier. Coming together, make love not hate. Let’s join together. Come to the light, shun the darkness.
Now, after weeks of rehearsing the acceptance speech, the trick for Biden is to do a repeat performance on the campaign trail. Odds of that happening are approaching zero. Biden is fine, no need to debate Trump, and he might be ready to take unscripted improv hard questions from the media (chances of that are near zero as well), and no more talk about Biden’s mental capabilities (deficiencies).
All in all, it was a good night for Biden. Now, put him back in his vampire casket in the basement and let him out after midnight on a full moon when nobody can see him. “Biden is fine, trust me,” sez the legions of advisers on his payroll. Now, cart him out of here. Out of sight, out of mind, out of brain cells. Nothing to see here folks, look the other way.
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10157642199140914/
https://patriotpost.us/memes/72909-bom-2020-08-21?

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Todd Juvinall

22 August 2020

paul emery | 22 August 2020 at 10:55 AM
Thanks for the compliments but what does that have to do with your support for the communists BLM and ANTIFA? I have heard the Nevada City Council will name the new toilets on Braos Street after you. Congrats.

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Todd Juvinall

22 August 2020

Also you can thank me as a life long resident here for allowing you to move here. But your shanty town home sure is a embarrassment. Hw can you live in such a crummy place? Sad but true, you hillbillies that came here from elsewhere are really a blight.

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George Rebane

22 August 2020

re Greg 1056am – This is another example of how the Dems and the lamestream tell the Big Lies to Americans, and the lie some more by claiming that Trump’s bombast and bravura are lies affecting voter behavior. Notice that over the year’s no liberal commenter has stepped forward to address or even acknowledge such large-scale, perpetual leftwing lying.

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scenes

22 August 2020

This would make a good Biden 2020 ad. I doubt it stays up on youtube long though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3FmlpkeDuE

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paul emery

22 August 2020

Show me documentation that I support ANTIFA Todd. If not you are a liar like your hero Trump.

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Todd Juvinall

22 August 2020

Paul EWmery you have not condemned them so silence is acquiescence. That is your rule, not mine. So stop lying and please start telling the truth. Oh and if you had not fought to deny people in Grass Valley a home years ago maybe you could have bought one instead of the sh**hole house you got on subsidy.

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fish

22 August 2020

Posted by: scenes | 22 August 2020 at 01:43 PM
Man…..he must really live for swearing in ceremonies!

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fish

22 August 2020

I had to wait to stop laughing to post this…….

Well, it’s official.
Former Vice President Joe Biden has now officially accepted the nomination of the democratic party to be President of the United States.
You would think that after months of preparation knowing that this would happen, I would be beyond the point where it bothers me. But at this moment in time, I’ve begun to realize my frustration doesn’t come from a place of simply being disappointed. Rather, it stems from the fact that democrats have opted to coalesce around a candidate that they did not even like.
This genuinely doesn’t even have to do with Bernie. Of course, there’s a part of me that will never, ever forget the fact that after the tens of thousands of text messages I sent, the money donated, and the time and effort I and millions of other people contributed in order to help organize the Sanders campaign, Barack Obama was waiting for just the right moment to destroy everything that we had built and worked so hard for. On top of it, we’re told to sit down, shut up, be gracious in our “defeat”, and turn that energy towards electing Biden. Of course, there’s a part of me that will never get over the fact that democrats worked harder to stop a campaign that just wanted everyone to have decent wages and healthcare than they ever have to stop Donald Trump or the republican party, and I genuinely have not been the same since I watched it happen. All that being said however, I can’t help wondering about the consequences of doing all this just to effectively anoint a man who they never even had any confidence in to begin with.
Let’s not forget that Barack Obama intervened on behalf of a man who he had not even wanted to run in the first place, and reportedly said his ability to “f*ck things up” should not be underestimated. At the start of the campaign, there was no one who was able to deny that over twenty candidates had decided to run because they genuinely did not believe that Joe Biden would be able to handle not only the rigors of a general election, but more important the position of the Presidency. While of course they weren’t wrong, far more concerning is the fact that he has absolutely nothing to offer the American people on top of it. Not even a public healthcare option in the middle of a global health pandemic.
It was just six months ago that Joe Biden’s campaign was dead in the water, and the corporate democratic establishment had all but written him off entirely. There’s not a shadow of a doubt in my mind that if the alternative hadn’t been Bernie Sanders at the top of the ticket we would not be in the position we’re in today, with a candidate who can barely even be trusted to appear in public.
I just can’t shake the feeling that bad things are coming in November.
If anyone can bungle what should be a landslide victory against a President who was more concerned about his own re-election prospects than he was about the fact that hundreds of thousands of people lost their lives due to his failures, it would be the modern democratic party. The American people are quite literally faced with a choice between Republicans and Republican-lite, and polls are already beginning to reflect a lack of enthusiasm about the options.
What Joe Biden’s supporters still fail to understand is that Bernie’s base does not owe them, or the Biden campaign anything. We put in the work for a movement we believed in, and now it’s their turn. They do not get to simply cry unity when they spent months comparing us to nazis, and are still ready and willing to blame the left if Biden does indeed lose. It’s past time for them to come to terms with the gravity of the situation, and the fact that their relentless, constant vote shaming they’ve once again readily adopted as a strategy is not working. The party has made its bed in selecting Biden, and now they will have to lie in it. If the situation is as dire as they insist it is, then it’s time for liberals to stop taking things for granted, pick up the phones, organize, and put in the effort.

Good call progressives……in two straight elections you’ve nominated the person most likely to be obliterated in the general by a former game show host!
https://medium.com/discourse/when-democrats-have-nominated-a-man-they-dont-even-like-1180f41b5a94

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Don Bessee

22 August 2020

They are coming for your property. Since what’s her name comes from slave holders shouldn’t we see these guys at her house?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/22/portland-rioters-threaten-homes-come-out-into-streets-stolen-land-stolen-people/
😉

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Scott O

22 August 2020

fish – 3:34 – So it looks like what happened was that the Dem powers-that-be decided to push Biden to the front as the one that those nasty white racist voters would go for. Then at the same time run a side campaign trying to bring in the Bernie Bros with the same trick they did with Obama.
Folks like Paul fall for this shit every time.
If Biden wins, expect years of Emery saying “I only voted for him the first time”.
C’mon, man!

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Scott O

22 August 2020

Don 4:11 – You do realize that only works in the soy-boy neighborhoods? Around here the women would kick their sorry asses to the curb and we men-folk would have to put down our adult beverages and mediate. “Now honey, let the poor man go – I think he’s lost enough blood.”
And “Damn, lady – you can stop shooting. He hasn’t moved since the last 6 rounds”.

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Don Bessee

22 August 2020

ScottO @419 Much like my neighborhood!!
😉

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paul emery

22 August 2020

So Todd continuing your line of thinking you are a supporter of QAnon because you are a supporter of Trump and he is on record as applauding and supporting them. Also you supported the counter demonstrators n Nevada City some of which were waving QAnon flags which according to your way of thinking makes you a QAnon supporter.

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Don Bessee

22 August 2020

TRIGGER WARNING FOR THE TDS SET –
In terms of the Democratic talent pool showcased at their convention, it was expert swimmers, the Obamas, surrounded by a bunch of people who still need water wings. Despite a satisfactory delivery, Biden’s acceptance speech was entirely written for people who already hate Trump and swoon over old reruns of “The West Wing.” Is that enough?
One thing I’ve been wondering about Biden: would he be as insufferably arrogant as the Obamas can be? During her anti-Trump broadside, Michelle Obama said: “Now, I understand that my message won’t be heard by some people. We live in a nation that is deeply divided, and I am a Black woman speaking at the Democratic convention.”
Translation: If you don’t agree with everything I say, you are either stupid or racist. This attitude, which President Obama exuded for eight years, was part of why Trump won in 2016. Biden would be better off to find some humility in the Oval Office, as there has been none since George W. Bush left office.
But had Biden thought about her recent history — a miserable presidential campaign that never made it to Iowa, was rife with infighting, and was put out of its misery by Tulsi Gabbard, of all people — he might have thought better of it.
Harris’s speech Wednesday night was a mess. Attempts by Democrats to spin it otherwise reminded me of Republicans always characterizing Trump’s latest debacle as four-dimensional chess. Sometimes things just stink.
That sound is your BS detector screaming.
Nonetheless, the Democrats march on, desperate for any drink of water as they wander a post-Obama political desert. They presented no platform in the past week beyond “not Trump, with a side of empathy,” although I think their convention, given the COVID-related challenges, as executed well enough. They are hoping you don’t think too hard about the Green New Deal, massive tax increases and a further government takeover of your health care.
Which ticket will America choose? Biden is winning, sure, but if you think Trump can’t find a way out of the wilderness, think again.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-wants-referendum-trump-person-125039500.html
😉

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Scott O

22 August 2020

Paul Emery – “If not you are a liar like your hero Trump.”
Unlike Paul’s hero – Biden.
Biden has never, ever lied -right Paul?
Right?
Oh, Paul?
I know – he’s busy doing ‘sound’ somewhere and has no time to address the issue.

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Todd Juvinall

22 August 2020

paul emery | 22 August 2020 at 04:26 PM
Don’t support Qnon so try harder. But you support the communist Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA which is amazing since you claim to be a verteran. You really have a screw loose bub.

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paul emery

22 August 2020

You support Trump and the counter demonstrators both of which support QAnon.
What is a verteran Todd? Can you send me a defination

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paul emery

22 August 2020

I get it,verteran is part of the QAnon secret language that you and other supporters share only with each other.

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Don Bessee

22 August 2020

Lookin like cognitive decline @445. What no thanks in advance??
😉

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paul emery

22 August 2020

So Scott, was Trump lying when he said about QAnon: “I’ve heard these are people that love our country, So I don’t know really anything about it other than they do supposedly like me.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/trump-qanon-conspiracy-theories.html

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paul emery

22 August 2020

What is a verteran Don? Tod needs your help. He seems to have disappeared.

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Don Bessee

22 August 2020

The team that allowed this think they are going win? BWWWWAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHA –
https://www.yahoo.com/news/julia-louis-dreyfus-bombs-dnc-021204868.html
😉

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Don Bessee

22 August 2020

Ya what about that problem? –
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/22/virgil-reparations-for-everyone-what-do-we-do-if-were-all-victims-and-victimizers/
😉

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Scott O

22 August 2020

Paul 4:56 – That’s hardly responsive to my query, Paul.
In the first place – how in the world am I supposed to know what Trump knows about QAnon?
You don’t know and I don’t know so what are you ranting about?
Now back to Biden. Remember him? Your choice for POTUS?
He’s a proven liar over and over.
Slanders an innocent man.
Cribs from other pols for his speeches.
Fabricates his scholastic achievements.
What a great guy!
Have you seen the vids of him fondling a young girl’s nipple?
Nice.
Yeah – we know – you’re only going to vote for him the once.

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paul emery

22 August 2020

Trump admitted his support of QAnon. I’ve provided links
Trump will win any liars competition hands down Scott and when it comes to abusing women just ask the at least 25 women who have made official complaints about him.
Here’s some details:
“Donald Trump has made 20,000 false or misleading claims while in office, according to the Washington Post, which identified a “tsunami of untruths” emanating from the Oval Office.
Top Mueller lawyer to publish insider account of Trump-Russia investigation
Read more
The paper’s Fact Checker column said Trump hit the milestone on 9 July, a day on which he delivered 62 such claims.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/13/donald-trump-20000-false-or-misleading-claims
And as far as women making claims of abuse there is this:
The 25 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct:
At least 25 women have accused President Donald Trump of sexual misconduct since the 1970s.
Renewed attention was brought to the allegations amid the #MeToo movement and a national conversation concerning sexual misconduct.
Trump has repeatedly denied the accusations, denouncing his accusers as “liars.”
In June 2019, columnist E. Jean Carroll accused President Donald Trump of sexually assaulting her by forcing his penis inside her in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in the mid-1990s.
YOU can see all the allegations on this web site:
https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12

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paul emery

22 August 2020

Scott
Do you believe Trump when he says he won’t release his tax returns because he’s being audited?

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Don Bessee

22 August 2020

#pooldpitful @ 725
😉

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Don Bessee

22 August 2020

Its the same ol same ol from the socialist dems say their own –
On Friday’s “PBS NewsHour,” New York Times columnist David Brooks said that one thing the Democratic National Convention “did not do is go to the heart of this electorate, which is working-class voters in the Upper Midwest. It’s sort of mind-boggling to me.”
He continued, “What they did not do is go to the heart of this electorate, which is working-class voters in the Upper Midwest. It’s sort of mind-boggling to me. In 2016, Hillary Clinton made a colossal error by ignoring those voters in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan and such places. And if the Democrats lose those states again, the indictment — and a correct indictment — will be that they made the exact same mistake in 2020 as they made in 2016. And I think it’s just because they don’t have the vocabulary or the cultural knowledge to know how to talk to those voters. I just think there are not enough people in the Democratic Party who emerge from those communities and know what concerns them and know how to talk to them.”
Brooks also criticized Democrats for not mentioning China enough.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/08/22/brooks-mind-boggling-that-dnc-didnt-go-for-working-class-voters/
😉

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paul emery

22 August 2020

Don
Do you believe Trump when he says he won’t release his tax returns because he’s being audited?

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Bill Tozer

22 August 2020

“ What is a verteran Don? Tod needs your help. He seems to have disappeared.”
What is a Tod?

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Don Bessee

22 August 2020

#pooldpitful @ 725 & 751.
😉

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Todd Juvinall

22 August 2020

Paul Emery supports the communists trying to overthrow America. I am amazed he has a job in this free country since a DJ in some other state just got fired for saying Kamala is a “colored gal”. Oh my! Worse to be honest than WOKE like PE.

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Paul Emery

22 August 2020

What is a Todd? Good question Bill. Eve Todd doesn’t know what he is. I always knew him as an old time Republican but the Republicans don’t exist anymore so he’s attached himself to this carnival barker Trump as his only option. The real Republicans have long since jumped ship but Todd has been completely suckered in by this lying con man and his grifter friends and family. Sad. Once he was actually County Supervisor and a legitimate representative of his community which has long since died off or drifted Norty .

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Paul Emery

22 August 2020

Sp Even Todd…

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Scott O

22 August 2020

Paul Emery 8:16 – “Sp Even Todd…”
Sure, Paul – whatever.
Sounds like a drunk lying on the floor muttering in his pool of vomit.
Quite the intellectuals, you lefties are.

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paul emery

22 August 2020

No Scott, Todd does not have a drinking problem as far as I know.

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Bill Tozer

22 August 2020

Eve Todd? Is she the one with the big hooters? Definitely does not sound like a Nevada City gal.

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Bill Tozer

22 August 2020

Punchy, Punchy, Punchy. For once, try reading the black on the page instead of the white blanks spots in-between the black.
“What is a Todd? Good question Bill”—Punch Drunk One
It would have been a good question if I had asked it. Apparently your magical mind is seeing things that are not there, per usual. The question posed was and forever remains in the annuals of history: “What is a Tod?”
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 22 August 2020 at 07:51 PM
Keeping trying Punch Drunk One (swinging wildly at the air when the smoke detector goes off) until you get it right. You can do it. I know you can get something right after all these many years. I can wait another year or decade longer. You have taught be to be more patient with the mentally challenged. For that, I thank you.

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