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Sandbox – 29mar20

29 March 2020

[Now that we're back to mudball fights, we should take them to a fresh sandbox. I'm constantly amused by our lefty readers not refuting/citing the facts but simply dismissing them on the basis of their dislike of the publisher or broadcaster. Haven't seen rightwinger dismiss what came out of Maddow simply because it came out of Maddow, who can report verifiable facts as well as the next talking head. But some of us do take Maddow et al with a dim view when they offer their opinions and interpretations as being something more than the views from their respective perches. gjr]

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362 responses to “Sandbox – 29mar20”

Scott O

31 March 2020

Thanks, Mary – please keep us up to date on his show.
I’m sure Rush appreciates you tuning in.

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fish

31 March 2020

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 31 March 2020 at 07:56 AM
Were I you I might consider sparking up……for the “peace of mind”.

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Walt

31 March 2020

“Medal of honor”? Rush will love that upgrade.
Mary wanna hit the bong again.

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Bill Tozer

31 March 2020

Me too. Yep, Mary Wannabee lost me on Medal of Order. Talk about getting off on the wrong hoof.

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Walt

31 March 2020

CHRIST!!! Can’t turn on the news without that blowhard Cuomo
yapping about something of no real value. What does he think he is?,, President?

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Mary Wanna

31 March 2020

The submissions for the History of Trump are coming in,
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
https://thehobbledehoy.com/2019/03/08/british-writer-pens-the-best-description-of-trump-ive-read/

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Bertie

31 March 2020

Speaking of BLOWHARDS…The “take no responsibility president” had added more lies yesterday in reference to the initial problems with Covid-19 tests that he tried to blame on Obama : “We inherited a broken test….We took over a dead, barren system…That didn’t work, because when CDC first looked at their test, the biggest problem they had is, the test didn’t work. That wasn’t from us. That’s been there a long time. Now we have the best tests in the world.”
FACTS: there was no test for COVID-19 because it the virus wasn’t known during the Obama administration. The Centers for Disease Control designed a new test and validated it and deployed it and later found that it had multiple problems which have since been changed. China issued a genetic map of the virus on Jan. 7 to the world community and within 10 days Germany came up with a recipe for a test that was adopted by the WHO but not in the US. I guess big Pharma wouldn’t get a cut of the proceeds.. Duh!

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Scott O

31 March 2020

Mary Waaaaah! 10:09 – Goodness!
There’s no end of ‘muricun writers that hate Trump.
You don’t have to go overseas.
Remember – Buy American!
And shop local!
And don’t worry about Obama – he’s being ultra cool and graceful at his ocean-side spread.
I hear he’s getting his trousers pressed even as I type this.
That should give you leftys a thrill up your leg!

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Bill Tozer

31 March 2020

I was wondering where Pig Wiggly came up with that “Tump fiddling” line a couple of days ago. Not an orginal thought in Jig Piggly’s head.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/whos-fiddling.php
In wack job related news, Fredo got the Plague. What a meatball

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Scott O

31 March 2020

Bertie-baby 10:23 – Any more news from your ChiCom buddies?
Or is that it?

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Mary Wanna

31 March 2020

Trump Today: “But I haven’t heard about testing being a problem.”
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a31989734/trump-coronavirus-testing-governors-call/

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George Rebane

31 March 2020

Talk about commie kool-aid. Everyone around the world has now started questioning CCP data except, of course, our local liberals who are still too busy genuflecting to Beijing and citing it as gospel.

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Bill Tozer

31 March 2020

Yep, I was right. They couldn’t make it til April. Man, they will totally lose in before May, if that is possible.
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Guess Daily Quotes will go here…..for old times sake.
Insight: “The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.” —Friedrich August von Hayek (1899-1992)
For the record: “Many of same people who incessantly and cynically warned of the coming Fourth Reich are now blaming the administration for not acting like a dictatorship. It’s difficult to keep up.” —David Harsanyi
Observations: “The epidemic has put in stark relief the pettiness and absurdity of much what has transpired in our national life since Trump won the presidency. This crisis is the unmistakable punctuation mark on that post-2016 era and the beginning of something new. How Trump performs now — finally without Mueller or impeachment, artifacts of another time, dogging him — will determine how it’s remembered.” —Rich Lowry
Amazing, isn’t it? “So you and I can get tossed IN to jail for leaving our house the wrong way but criminals can be let OUT of jail for no apparent reason.” —Allie Beth Stuckey
False dichotomy, part I: “What the COVID crisis exposes is that we can do things differently. We must not go back to the status quo. We cannot do that. What I would like to see … is putting the likely impact on health equity at the heart of all policymaking. That would lead to better environmental policy, it would lead to better social policy, it would lead to better healthcare policy and better political policies.” —WHO commission chairman Michael Marmot
False dichotomy, part II: “Things that needed to have been done but weren’t to prevent the pandemic are similar to the things needed to address the climate and ecological crisis.” —Extinction Rebellion cofounder Dr. Gail Bradbrook
Dezinformatsiya: “America’s response to the coronavirus is the worst in the world, which is shocking and has a lot to do with a leader who is completely unfit, temperamentally and intellectually, for the job.” —New York Times columnist Paul Krugman
Village idiot: “Please stop covering Trump’s briefing/rallies. Please. Please.” —actress Jane Lynch
And last… “It’s a sign of our society’s great brokenness when churches are labeled ‘non-essential’ while abortion businesses continue to operate as ‘essential.’” —Lila Rose

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bertie

31 March 2020

“Everyone around the world has now started questioning CCP data”
Who is everyone George? Where is the proof and citations you demand from your detractors but not yourself? Methinks you are just making this up along with your red scare blog buddies.. Come on.. the term “chi-com” is straight from the Korean War. In case you all don’t know it, this is 2020 not 1953. If China is such a big enemy than why do most of our manufactured goods come from there? Are you afraid that your toaster that was made in China is spying on you?
Bottom line is that anyone who believes a word trumps says is suspect.

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Bill Tozer

31 March 2020

Somebody is demanding attention today. Somebody feels non-essential. I’m sorry, ain’t our job to cure TDS.

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Scott O

31 March 2020

bertie-baby – “Come on.. the term “chi-com” is straight from the Korean War.”
OMG – oh, a thousand pardons!
Calling folks NAZIs is straight from WWII, but it hasn’t stopped you leftys from using it every time some one disagrees with you.
Mainland China is run by commies, bertie. Has been since the late 1940s.

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Bill Tozer

31 March 2020

Kinda hard to do an investigation when the records have gone missing.
‘It Wasn’t Just Trump, Inspector General Finds FBI Routinely Violates Procedures In FISA Warrant Applications’
Nevertheless, we believe that a deficiency in the FBI’s efforts to support the factual statements in FISA applications through its Woods Procedures undermines the FBI’s ability to achieve its ‘scrupulously accurate’ standard for FISA applications,” Horowitz wrote.
“The memo also stated that FBI officials told OIG investigators that corrective actions or training may take place at field offices based on the results of its reviews, yet Horowitz noted no such training exists at the FBI headquarters.”
http://dlvr.it/RSwNwX

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scenes

31 March 2020

Bertie@11:12 “If China is such a big enemy than why do most of our manufactured goods come from there?”
30 years of multinationals moving jobs from the US to Asian sweatshops. Invention of the shipping container. Lack of environmental law in China. Bertie’s need to buy cheap-ass dreck at Walmart. Globalist fifth column in the USA.
Now we’re hitting phase 2, something of an emergency. Phase 3 will be China outright threatening the US via the bond market and withholding of single-sourced goods. Phase 3 has already begun per Chinese ruling party organs.
Sometimes I wonder what I’m a gonna do
But there ain’t no cure for the TDS blues

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George Rebane

31 March 2020

bertie 1112am – you really are in a state of terminal information deficit. If you’d listen to someone besides CNN, MSNBC, NYT, …, and try outlets like Reuters, Forbes, Nature, Barrons, USNews, WSJ, …, and pay attention to world leaders starting with Boris Johnson who are dunning China on the fictional and unverifiable numbers they are putting out, then you wouldn’t be embarrassing yourself like you continue to do day after day (but please keep it up, it confirms the assessment of you folks). Here’s a typical headline from a non-lamestream outlet –
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-coronavirus-count-excluded-infected-people-with-no-symptoms-11585650226
And BTW, point to a liberal blog that documents anywhere near to the extent that does RR and its non-socialist commenters.
But seriously, if you really want to inform yourself, just google ‘questioning data from China’. And ScottO gave you a bit of a tutorial on the history of China and their communist dictatorship that was established in 1949 – again something that your history probably omits. You’ve been taught that only the Left has the proper labels for everything on this globe, and all else is wrong. I expect crickets.

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Walt

31 March 2020

LOL! Mary’s (or just a dude in drag) 10:09 must have come from the far reaches of the septic tank web.(beyond even the dark web) Must be one of those weird ones that licks that Mayor Muslim”s sandals.

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Walt

31 March 2020

Bertie is one of those who disliked Trump bringing jobs back from China. You know,, the ones his boy “O” would NEVER come back. He’s hated Trump for it ever since

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Don Bessee

31 March 2020

Bernie bros defecting to Trump –
Poll: 15% of Sanders supporters will vote for Trump if Biden is nominee; 80% would back Biden
https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-15-sanders-supporters-vote-185748015.html
😉

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Walt

31 March 2020

OK Lefties,, have the balls to say you will vote for the VERY pretty Gavin again? Especially after what the piece of shit just did?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/31/coronavirus-jailbreak-california-gov-gavin-newsom-commutes-sentences-for-14-convicted-killers/
“Newsom made the decision to more quickly commute felons’ sentences in the midst of the coronavirus, providing early release through parole to about 19 felons — some of whom killed children and one convict who murdered a pregnant woman.”
Two of the felons are immigrants to the U.S., and Newsom’s purpose for commuting their sentences is to have them avoid deportation.
The 19 felons given commutations by Newsom include:
50-year-old Rodney McNeal convicted of stabbing his pregnant wife to death
75-year-old Suzanne Johnson convicted of assaulting a child to death
35-year-old Kristopher Blehm convicted for aiding in a murder
64-year-old Joann Parks convicted of killing her three children
67-year-old Rosemary Dyer convicted of murdering her husband
40-year-old Jason Bryant convicted for witnessing murder during a robbery
56-year-old Steven Bradley convicted of murdering a gas station worker
64-year-old Richard Flowers convicted of murdering a woman
61-year-old Samuel Eldredge convicted of shooting a person to death
49-year-old Ramon Rodriguez convicted of murdering a person for pay
56-year-old James Harris convicted of kidnapping and murdering two people
48-year-old Robert Glass convicted of murdering a burglary victim
45-year-old David Jassy convicted of murdering a man he was fighting with
68-year-old Shyrl Lamar convicted of witnessing the murder of two people
Tri Thai, an immigrant, convicted of assault, dissuading a witness, and burglary
Monsuru Tijani, an immigrant, convicted of issuing fake financial statements
Shannon Thomas-Bland convicted of drug crimes
Gabriel Garcia convicted of drug crimes
Brenda Ibanez convicted of robbery and using a fake ID to buy a vehicle
Most should have been executed for their crimes.
Will the proggys speak up? Naaaaaa…….

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fish

31 March 2020

Posted by: bertie | 31 March 2020 at 11:12 AM
Run along darlin….Oprah’s on.

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Bill Tozer

31 March 2020

This got go any number of Wuhan virus posts, but in keeping with the thread, I will put it here.
A PARTISAN VIRUS?
“But the most revealing finding is the bottom bar, showing that a majority of Democrats (61%) approve of the news media’s handling of the coronavirus story, as opposed to only 25 percent of Republicans. This is the largest institutional gap in the survey, and quite telling, isn’t it?“
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/a-partisan-virus.php
38 second video at bottom of link warms the cockles of me weary heart.

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Bill Tozer

31 March 2020

Broken clock is right again.
170 Ventilators Shipped To California Didn’t Work, But Instead Of Blaming Trump, Governor Had Them Fixed
“Nearly two hundred ventilators sent to California from the federal government needed repairs, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said on Saturday. Yet instead of taking the opportunity to bash Trump, Newsom said he sent the ventilators to be repaired and that they would be returned – working – on Monday.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/170-ventilators-shipped-to-california-didnt-work-but-instead-of-blaming-trump-governor-had-them-fixed

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bertie

31 March 2020

In the “saving trump’s ass is more important than peoples’s lives and the trump administration takes no responsibility for anything” category:
Moscow Mitch now says the administration’s poor response to the pandemic was the fault of Democrats and their insistence on impeachment. “It came up while we were tied down on the impeachment trial. And I think it diverted the attention of the government because everything every day was all about impeachment.”
The first official case in America was recognized just as the hearings began. Good job pubbers. You are so adept at recognizing what is important or not. Protecting the orangeman or saving people’s lives.

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fish

31 March 2020

Posted by: bertie | 31 March 2020 at 03:51 PM
Ahhh….Oprah is over then…..I think Dr. Phil is on now. Why don’t you go watch that……we all know how much you enjoy your afternoon TV programs.
Be a dear and run along then……

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Walt

31 March 2020

Sure bertie,, rewrite history for yourself.. Enjoy.
Now don’t forget all the grief Trump got for wanting to restrict incoming travel.. You know,, he was “xenophobic”.
That’s what you get for believing Libby fake news.
We know how short your memory is.

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Walt

31 March 2020

Damn bertie,, LIBS never take responsibility for anything.
A nice timeline. Now the rest of the story from “your” post.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/31/nancy-pelosi-touted-impeachment-walk-to-senate-as-coronavirus-came-to-u-s/
Feel free to stay REAL quiet.
Pelosi tweeted on January 15: “Tune in as House impeachment managers deliver the articles of impeachment against President Trump to the U.S. Senate.”
the CDC, the first patient to have been confirmed positive for coronavirus in the U.S. arrived to the country from Wuhan, China, on the same day, January 15.
On January 23, House impeachment managers made their opening arguments for removing the president to the Senate.
On January 29, Trump formed the White House Coronavirus Task Force.
On January 30, senators began asking two days of questions during the impeachment trial.

On January 31, Trump declared a ban on travel to the U.S. from China, which Democrats criticized as xenophobic.

So Trump ignored just what? Failed to act just when?
Now can you remind us just what your LIBS were doing all that time?
Yes TROLLburta,, your really got some damning facts on Trump.
So is it rice or beans for you tonight? Go with the beans.
You can run a hose from you know where to the intake of that Preus to see if the gov check is at the post office.

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Bill Tozer

31 March 2020

Is the Pandemic Killing Biden’s Bid?
https://buchanan.org/blog/is-the-pandemic-killing-bidens-bid-138369

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Walt

31 March 2020

No Bill, his own live (somewhat)videos are.
I have an idea!! Just maybe one of the caged Libbys here can
tell us just which LIB running for President they think would do a better job then Trump! And of cours,,, just how….(🤣😂😎)

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Walt

31 March 2020

You OK up there Scott? I hear you got a good Calif. style jolt.
Hope Grandma’s prized dishes didn’t get broken.

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Don Bessee

31 March 2020

Oh look, the rancid Russian dressing story gets better –
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dojs-fisa-report-contradicts-claims-by-dems-media-experts-that-surveillance-rules-were-strictly-observed
😉

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Walt

31 March 2020

Don.. It was the old “it’s OK,, no one will find out, who will question us if the info is good or not?”

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Walt

31 March 2020

Must be a tough night under that TROLL bridge.
Can’t get a single anti Trump burp to stick.

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Scott O

31 March 2020

Walt 6:50 – We’re fine. G’ma’s china plates are still resting on edge in the china cabinet. The hanging lights over the kitchen counter were swaying but the motion was gentle. A back and forth motion, not any sharp jolts or up and down stuff.
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/apparent-earthquake-rattles-the-treasure-valley-and-the-northwest/277-f791186e-3307-4fb6-9a48-0f6aa3b0b169

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Bill Tozer

31 March 2020

Guns
ttps://trib.al/MJar85q

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Bill Tozer

31 March 2020

Guns
Concealed Permit Holder Kills Alleged Attacker and Thwarts Mass Shooting
https://trib.al/MJar85q
Once again and say it with me. The duration of a mass shooting is the time it takes for another gun to arrive on the scene.

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Bill Tozer

31 March 2020

TRUMP DOJ DEFENDS FEMALE ATHLETES
Moreover, as the Attorney General explained, one of Title IX’s core purposes is to ensure that women have an “equal athletic opportunity” to participate in school athletic programs. This purpose is fulfilled by the establishment of separate athletic teams for men and women and by ensuring that those teams are on equal footing.
“Because of the physiological differences between men and women, the existence of women’s sports teams permits women to participate more fully in athletics than they otherwise could. Allowing biological men who identify as women to compete against biological women denies equal athletic opportunity to actual women.
By taking this stance in the Connecticut litigation, the Trump Justice Department once again demonstrates its seriousness in enforcing civil rights laws as written, not as distorted by political correctness and “woke” attitudes.”
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/trump-doj-defends-female-athletes.php

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Walt

31 March 2020

Good to hear your fine Scott. I still bet it rattled your nerves.

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Mary Wanna

01 April 2020

Trump’s denial and fear of his precious popularity will result in thousands of deaths,
The CDC issued its first warning on Jan 8
Trump held campaign rallies on Jan 9, Jan 14, Jan 28, Jan 30, Feb 10, Feb 19, Feb 20, Feb 21 & Feb 28
He golfed on Jan 18, Jan 19, Feb 1, Feb 15, Mar 7 & Mar 8
The first time he admitted the coronavirus might be a problem was Mar 13

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fish

01 April 2020

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 01 April 2020 at 05:49 AM
Dieses Bier ist für meinen Meister…….

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Mary Wanna

01 April 2020

Loudmouth Trump is the Energizer Screwup,
Trump, Hannity, Limbaugh should be jailed.
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/26/21154253/trump-ebola-tweets-coronavirus

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fish

01 April 2020

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 01 April 2020 at 06:36 AM
Hey Ridley, das Machometer wirkt verrückt. Es ging einfach von der Waage auf mich.

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Scott O

01 April 2020

Good morning Walt. Nope – remember, I was born and raised in CA. I was in the woods once in Nevada County during an earthquake and it was interesting to hear one first before it was felt.
Mary 6:36 – Lock them up, lock them up, lock them up!

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fish

01 April 2020

As always…the invaluable “Instapundit”!

From, not surprisingly, America’s Newspaper of Record.
TEACHERS URGE GOVERNMENT TO REOPEN SCHOOLS BEFORE STUDENTS LEARN TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES.

https://babylonbee.com/news/teachers-warn-parents-arent-properly-equipped-to-indoctrinate-children

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fish

01 April 2020

…and who doesn’t feel genuine appreciation for our “GaffeMaster” and his gaffetacular ways!

Biden Delivers Another Incoherent Assessment of Trump’s Response to the ‘Luhan’ Flu

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/03/30/809002/

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fish

01 April 2020

I imagine most of the progressive regulars at RR’s feel this way!

“Like a velveteen gravity blanket for my soul, the second I see this man’s perfectly weathered face and tousled curls, the moment his Pacino-like accent fills my living room with its mafia-like authority, my blood pressure drops, my breasts seem to perk up on their own, and a tingly feeling of optimism washes over my imprisoned body as I think to myself… I think we’re gonna be okay….!””

“Tingly”? Tell us more progressive America!
https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/a31945211/andrew-cuomo-hot/

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scenes

01 April 2020

Miss Mary: “Trump’s denial and fear of his precious popularity will result in thousands of deaths,

The CDC issued its first warning on Jan 8”

From the NYT:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/08/health/flu-season-severity.html
The Flu Season May Yet Turn Ugly, C.D.C. Warns
Almost as many people are falling ill as did two years ago, in what was a particularly severe flu season. But this season’s virus is unusual, and it’s too early to tell how dangerous.
By Donald G. McNeil Jr.
Jan. 8, 2020, 9:30 a.m. ET
The United States may be headed into a bad flu season, according to figures recently released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
As of the last week of December, “widespread” flu activity was reported by health departments in 46 states. More ominously, a second measure — the percentage of patients with flu symptoms visiting medical clinics — shot up almost to the peak reached at the height of the 2017-18 flu season, which was the most severe in a decade.
About 61,000 Americans died of flu that season, the C.D.C. said. (The original estimate of 79,000 was revised downward last year; the agency said the number changed as more death certificate information became available.)
This year’s flu vaccine may not be particularly effective against the strain of the virus now widespread in the United States, experts said. But even so, it’s worth getting the shot: people who are vaccinated fare better if struck by the flu than those who are not.
It is still too early to know how severe this season will be, said Lynnette Brammer, leader of the agency’s domestic influenza surveillance team.
Although many people are coming down with flu, the two chief indicators of severity — hospitalizations and deaths — are not yet elevated, she noted.
Deaths from pneumonia and flu are actually lower than normal at this time. But reports of hospitalization and death normally lag other indicators by at least two weeks.
The current season did begin unusually early. By late November, the flu had hit hard in the Deep South, from Texas to Georgia. The virus then broke out in California and the Rocky Mountain states, but was not widespread in the Northeast until recently.
That pattern echoes what happened in Australia, where winter runs from June through August. Flu came unusually early to the Southern Hemisphere in 2019. In seasons when Australia has a bad flu season, the Northern Hemisphere sometimes does, too.
In another important way, however, the United States is not following Australia’s lead. The A(H3N2) strain of influenza was dominant there last year, while most American cases this season have been caused by a very different strain, called B Victoria. (B strains are named for the cities where they were first isolated.)
B strain flus do not normally arrive until late in the season. But when they do, “they often impact children more than adults and older adults,” Ms. Brammer said.
The C.D.C. tracks the deaths of children individually, rather than making estimates, as is done for adults. Those over 65 are usually the group hardest hit by flu. Thus far this season, 27 children have died of flu — in 2017-18, 187 died — but pediatric deaths don’t normally start peaking until mid-January.
On the rise now is the A(H1N1)pdm09 strain, which is a descendant of the pandemic “swine flu” that first appeared in 2009 and then morphed into a seasonal flu.
H1N1 strains are usually the first to appear. They usually cause fewer hospitalizations and deaths per capita than B strains or A(H3N2).
Thus far, based on limited testing data, this season’s flu shot does not look like a good match for the B Victoria flu and may not be very effective, the C.D.C. said. But the shot does still appear to be well matched for the A(H1N1)pdm09 strain.
C.D.C. flu data relies on reports from doctors’ offices, clinics and hospital emergency rooms about how many patients come in with flu symptoms.
An even faster measurement of flu’s spread comes from Kinsa Health, which collects daily readings of fevers from up to two million users around the country who own its thermometers. The devices connect to smartphones and instantly upload readings to the company’s app.
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Kinsa readings indicate that flulike activity peaked on Dec. 24 at a level just below the 2017-18 level — confirming what the C.D.C. found — and has since dropped by almost a third, said Nita Nehru, a company spokeswoman.
But even this week’s lower figure “is much higher than is typical of this time of year,” she added. It may bounce up again soon, now that students have returned to school from holiday vacations.
The company assumes that fevers lasting three or more days indicate flu rather than a common cold, said Inder Singh, the company’s founder.
The C.D.C. has not endorsed Kinsa’s methods, but the data does show flu patterns at least a week or two ahead of reports from medical clinics.

Thus far, almost none of the hundreds of samples tested by the C.D.C. have been resistant to Tamiflu or any other common antiflu drug. Those medications do not cure the flu; they only reduce the severity of an infection, and only if they are taken early.

lol dude. Do you just make up stuff as you go along or do have some sort of crazy political website on speed dial?

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