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Sandbox – 29mar20

29 March 2020

[Now that we're back to mudball fights, we should take them to a fresh sandbox. I'm constantly amused by our lefty readers not refuting/citing the facts but simply dismissing them on the basis of their dislike of the publisher or broadcaster. Haven't seen rightwinger dismiss what came out of Maddow simply because it came out of Maddow, who can report verifiable facts as well as the next talking head. But some of us do take Maddow et al with a dim view when they offer their opinions and interpretations as being something more than the views from their respective perches. gjr]

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scenes

29 March 2020

Just for fun.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hubei-residents-riot-after-quarantine-lifted-police-beaten-their-own-shield-cop-cars
Yeah, I know. ZeroHedge. Good footage though. 4chan for boomers.

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scenes

29 March 2020

Dr. Fauci speaks:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/02/17/nih-disease-official-anthony-fauci-risk-of-coronavirus-in-u-s-is-minuscule-skip-mask-and-wash-hands
https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/fr7ryw/dr_fauci_admits_the_reason_why_the_cdccoronavirus/

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scenes

29 March 2020

interesting if true.
Weekly deaths in the US down by 7,000 – 10,000 for the week ending March 7 2020!
https://twitter.com/SidSanghi/status/1244268782341799938
Study: Coronavirus Lockdown Likely Saved 77,000 Lives In China Just By Reducing Pollution
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2020/03/16/coronavirus-lockdown-may-have-saved-77000-lives-in-china-just-from-pollution-reduction/

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Gregory

29 March 2020

Nirvana County case count is up to 17.
https://www.mynevadacounty.com/2924/Coronavirus

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Bill Tozer

29 March 2020

This should make someone who been called ‘non-essential’ feel more essential. Yes, I am relevant!
‘Sugar-Daddy Democrats Insert $75 Million Into ‘Stimulus’ for Their PBS-NPR Buddies’
“Whenever Democrats prepare to “stimulate” the economy through legislation, it’s always important to check the fine print to see how their keeping their propaganda organs in fighting shape.”
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2020/03/29/democrats-insert-75million-pbs-npr-buddies

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scenes

30 March 2020

Nirvana County case count is up to 18
4 in western county

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Bill Tozer

30 March 2020

Four in Western Nevada County? That means Steve has been busy spreading the R2-D2 virus in the eastern county.

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scenes

30 March 2020

“That means Steve has been busy spreading the R2-D2 virus in the eastern county”
Just a mind virus I imagine. Perhaps the right answer is to rebrand his organization as one providing actionable project consultation to encourage diversity and holistic results in the pandemic space.
No doubt his plan for the end of the world is to start a cult and head into the hills with his staff of vice presidents and managers. They can repopulate the world from pre-built Business Council shelters. Somewhere in Russia there’s a non-profit with the same idea. We will meet again.

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scenes

30 March 2020

aaah, now here you go. Phase 2 of the Shit Gets Real department begins.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/03/30/report-amazon-workers-in-new-york-city-plan-warehouse-walkout/
It’s probably best to view the supply chain as similar to freeway traffic. It probably could be modeled as a set of end-to-end springs. Beaucoup opportunities for interruptions at all levels. We’re far from it I think, but I wonder at what point a feedback loop results in outright collapse of some chain.

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bertie

30 March 2020

Ever the liar :
Last Thursday in an interview with Sean Hannity, president trumpler, in reference to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, and following a tirade against Washington state Gov. Jay Inslee and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (all Democrats) stated, “some of the equipment that governors are requesting they don’t actually need.” Always the stable genius expert on everything he added, “I have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they are going to be. I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators.”
When asked about those statements on Sunday, trump said, “I didn’t say that.”
At a briefing on Friday trumpy said, in reference to those same Governors, “I want them to be appreciative. If they don’t treat you right, I don’t call.” When asked about those statements he responded, “But I didn’t say that” a phrase he repeated twice while interrupting the reporter.
How can people believe a word he says as his lie count approaches 17,000? How is it that the US, with one fourth the population as China, now has more covid-19 cases? Simple, because the stable genius who knows everything about everything mislead and LIED to the American people about the severity of the problem in a feeble effort to prop up a falling stock market and protect his investments.

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🐟 roe, roe rowing mah boat

30 March 2020

Posted by: bertie | 30 March 2020 at 10:00 AM
Yes Bertie……clearly he has earned a second term.

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scenes

30 March 2020

re: bertie@10:00AM
Thank you for your input. We’ll take it under advisement.
Picked up from the supplychain reddit group.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/day-coronavirus-broke-healthcares-supply-chain-how-shape-healy

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Bill Tozer

30 March 2020

ROFLMAO
NBC Worries Pandemic ‘Threatens’ Biden’s Campaign ‘Momentum’
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2020/03/30/nbc-worries-pandemic-threatens-bidens-campaign-momentum
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Joy Reid Worried: Trump Might Use Virus as Guise to ‘Reign as Monarch’
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and not so funny:
Soros-Funded Priorities USA Action Anti-Trump Ad Leads All Virus TV Ads for Week with 1,074 Airings
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/business/joseph-vazquez/2020/03/30/soros-funded-priorities-usa-action-anti-trump-ad-leads-all

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L

30 March 2020

Bertie (Rx) @ 10:00: I’m not proud to admit it, but I’m beginning to take some real pleasure in your miserable, psychotic fixation on the President. Dimmer than most Dims, you’ve obviously allowed your TDS to complete dominate your waking hours, an outcome you thoroughly deserve. Being confined to the barracks can only be making it worse. Goody!
Probably a good thing nitwits like yourself aren’t allowed to by handguns or the national suicide rate would be at a record high.

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George Rebane

30 March 2020

It continues to amaze me that some people still believe the stats coming out of China. According to my lights, the only verifiable fact about the C19 virus is that it started in Wuhan sometime last Nov or Dec. The rest of the reports coming out of CCP-sanctioned media are definitely various shades of bullshit. To cite such stats with those of other countries is a step or two below sophomoric or cynical, depending on your agenda (or if you’re bright enough to have one).

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Don Bessee

30 March 2020

The chi coms are a problem on so many levels –
WASHINGTON — In late November 2018, just over a year before the first coronavirus case was identified in Wuhan, China, U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents at Detroit Metro Airport stopped a Chinese biologist with three vials labeled “Antibodies” in his luggage.
The biologist told the agents that a colleague in China had asked him to deliver the vials to a researcher at a U.S. institute. After examining the vials, however, customs agents came to an alarming conclusion.
“Inspection of the writing on the vials and the stated recipient led inspection personnel to believe the materials contained within the vials may be viable Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) materials,” says an unclassified FBI tactical intelligence report obtained by Yahoo News.
The report, written by the Chemical and Biological Intelligence Unit of the FBI’s Weapons of Mass Destruction Directorate (WMDD), does not give the name of the Chinese scientist carrying the suspected SARS and MERS samples, or the intended recipient in the U.S. But the FBI concluded that the incident, and two other cases cited in the report, were part of an alarming pattern.
“The Weapons of Mass Destruction Directorate assesses foreign scientific researchers who transport undeclared and undocumented biological materials into the United States in their personal carry-on and/or checked luggage almost certainly present a US biosecurity risk,” reads the report. “The WMDD makes this assessment with high confidence based on liaison reporting with direct access.”
The report, which came out more than two months before the World Health Organization learned of a cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan that turned out to be COVID-19, appears to be part of a larger FBI concern about China’s involvement with scientific research in the U.S. While the report refers broadly to foreign researchers, all three cases cited involve Chinese nationals.
In the case of the suspected SARS and MERS vials, the intelligence report cites another classified document that is marked “FISA,” meaning it contains information collected under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Another case cited in the report appeared to involve flu strains, and a third was suspected E. coli.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in-luggage-fbi-report-describes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html
😉

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Don Bessee

30 March 2020

To Dr R’s point –
Wuhan Residents Dismiss Official Coronavirus Death Toll: ‘The Incinerators Have Been Working Around the Clock’
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wuhan-residents-dismiss-official-coronavirus-164859600.html
😉

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bertie loves fish sticks

30 March 2020

you guys never respond to the facts.. but, always shoot the messenger if you don’t like the truth..just like your stupid idol and mentor dj trumpler, liar-in-chief… How can you have a clue about what is really going on in the world if you buy into trump’s BS hook line and sinker? Don’t you think it is about time to put aside the political groupthink and recognize that this is an issue that goes beyond red or blue? While you label people who disagree with trumpster as TDS, trump critics label you as just plain stupid.
In other news, California got 17 gov’t issued ventilators that were broken. Could this be on purpose, after all CA is not trump country?

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Bill Tozer

30 March 2020

Shoot the messager? Now, now. We are going to shoot ya, Bertha. No, we have other plans for you. And the town crier went up and down the midnight fog yelling out, “Murder, murder.”
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To compliment Scenes’s 9:59 am on the now closed ‘Dear Diary;The Great Hunkering Down’ and to dovetail with Dr. Rebane’s 11:29 am….f a week old, but what the hay.
The Comprehensive Timeline of China’s COVID-19 Lies
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=first

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Scott O

30 March 2020

Bertie-baby 10:00 – Dude. Only 17,000? I’m pretty sure you missed a few thousand back in May 2019. Better go back and check. You need to keep an accurate record.
I’m not sure why you’re paying any attention to what this (or any POTUS) says about something like a pandemic. The news was pretty clear from the get-go that it was spreading fast in many countries. Why wouldn’t it do the same here? At least Trump tried to shut the door on folks bringing it here. That’s the complete opposite of the other ‘more enlightened’ countries and look what happened to them.
Bertie needs to stop listening to Sean and the Orange Monster. Put on some Mantovani or the Hollyridge Strings. Just chill.

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fish

30 March 2020

Posted by: bertie loves fish sticks | 30 March 2020 at 12:12 PM
you guys never respond to the facts.. but, always shoot the messenger if you don’t like the truth.
Hmmm Bertie haz a sad.

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Scott O

30 March 2020

blfs 12:12 “you guys never respond to the facts.. but, always shoot the messenger if you don’t like the truth…”
Really?
Never?
Always?
Sure about that?
When you start a post with obvious BS, it kinda’ makes me think the rest of it is BS.
Just sayin’.
“…if you buy into trump’s BS hook line and sinker?”
I don’t know – I don’t buy into what anyone says like that nor does anyone else here for that matter.
“How can you have a clue about what is really going on in the world…”
By reading every word that you and Bertie write.
I feel so enlightened already!!
Ahhhhh!

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Bill Tozer

30 March 2020

Bertha
Point of personal order. Point of personal order.
“you guys” is reprehensible and anti a whole bunch of stuff. Anti-trans, sexists, misogynist, male privilege, and I haven’t even begun. Point of personal order: Next time instead of saying “you guys”, try using jazz hands. And please stop wearing that intrusive fu-fu juice. Some of us are sensitive to aromatic perfumes and soaps, especially when it smells like caca-dodo.

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George Rebane

30 March 2020

Do people like ‘Bertie’ even understand data tables like the one I posted in ‘Junk Journalism …’ (the kind Bertie consumes)? There the comparative stats of how the US performs relative to other developed countries are shown, apparently the ken of Bertie and his ilk. And his kind scream that Trump was somehow late in responding to C19. Well if so, how come we dumb laggards in a big a well-traveled country are doing so well after all those others who are smarter than we, have better healthcare systems, and got an early start?? All this is beyond the Blue Mob which has only one item on their agenda list.

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scenes

30 March 2020

” All this is beyond the Blue Mob which has only one item on their agenda list.”
Of course.
It’s obvious how all this went down, just like it does for any serious national problem. The President responds too late, not being prescient. The opposition goes shopping for some domain expert that called the problem before the President did. That’s followed by wailing about how the head of state didn’t listen to Person X. The President’s people go out and find 100 areas where someone else f***ed up. No one looks brilliant. A good time is had by all.

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Walt

30 March 2020

Facts? You and your Babs,, NEVER deal in facts.
Throw plenty of accusations with Jack H. Shit to back it up.
Just like your last post.
Pure tofu.

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Bill Tozer

30 March 2020

Maybe they will bring back that Yale talking head panelist babe, the expert head shrinker guru and claim for the umpteenth time that Trump is crazier than two rats in a sock. Funny how she let her license to practice medicine lapse. She was on the Enemy of the People gameshow network CNN almost as much as ‘Presidential Material’ Michael Avenatti.
Opps. That should have gone under the Junk Journalism post.

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scenes

30 March 2020

“That should have gone under the Junk Journalism post.”
Hell man, if I’m doing the writing, it should all go under Junk Journalism.

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Walt

30 March 2020

Where did Babs run off to? He has some lie’n to splain!!
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/30/nancy-pelosi-dismissed-coronavirus-threat-february-chinatown-visit-everything-fine-here/
“House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to investigate President Trump for his actions in the lead-up to the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S., but in February, she dismissed the threat with a visit to San Francisco’s Chinatown.”
That was when Trump was catching hell for trying to restrict travel.

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Walt

30 March 2020

The one good thing about this outbreak is, that is showing Trump was dead right about our dependance on outsourcing everything to the far East. Trump was right to try and bring as much manufacturing as possible back.
Who were the main compainers? The Left, a Lefty run corporations. “we want that cheap overseas labor! We want the less restrictive labor laws!”
Now we are in dire need of building that hight tech. stuff HERE.
So go ahead LIBS,,, Bitch about Trump. He’s been right the whole time.

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Bertrand

30 March 2020

George 12:438. “how come we dumb laggards in a big a well-traveled country are doing so well”
If you are referring to the US, with more cases of the Covid-19 faster than a country with 4 times as many people China, as ‘doing well’ then I question your logic. With regard to your table..LOL
Have some more orange Kool-aide.

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Don Bessee

30 March 2020

@424 guess you missed this –
The newspaper says scientists have warned Johnson that China could have downplayed its number of confirmed cases of the coronavirus “by a factor of 15 to 40 times.” China had reported just 81,439 at the time of writing.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/boris-johnsons-government-reportedly-furious-075257081.html
😉
Posted by: Don Bessee | 30 March 2020 at 04:13 PM

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fish

30 March 2020

Posted by: Don Bessee | 30 March 2020 at 04:30 PM
But Don….the numbers that Bertie cited……they came from an approved MSM source…..Appproved! Do you know what “approved” means….well do you!?
……approved…..always approved!

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Walt

30 March 2020

LOL!! Today’s TROLL likes to play 🙈🙉🙊🐵.
Yup tough to beat real facts with Proggy lip service.

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George Rebane

30 March 2020

re B 424pm – This dumb jokel is such a fan of communists that he eats up what the CCP publishes but doesn’t believe the data put out by the CDC and OECD that I used to make the table in –
https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2020/03/junk-journalism-on-parade.html
Believing those numbers to idiots like drinking “orange kool-aid”. And these people we’re supposed to call fellow Americans. In days gone by, such critters were more accurately labeled ‘fellow travelers’.

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Mary Wanna

30 March 2020

Absolutely Deplorable,
AREAS WITH TRUMP VOTERS ARE TRAVELING MORE
The Bee cross-referenced Unacast’s location data with 14 different social, economic and health metrics for each California county. The metrics included median age, population density, poverty, income, political affiliation and data on the number of COVID-19 cases reported so far. The analysis excluded the state’s two least-populated counties, Alpine and Sierra.
There were several statistically significant correlations, but the strongest was related to income. People in counties with high median household incomes and low poverty tended to show higher reductions in average distance traveled than other counties.
All of the state’s 15 wealthiest counties — as measured by median family income — reduced their average distance traveled by at least 45 percent from late February to March 22. The same could be said of only one of the state’s 15 poorest counties — Lake County.
Education levels also correlated closely with reductions in travel. Counties where a large proportion of residents hold a bachelor’s degree tended to cut travel more than areas where relatively few residents had a degree.
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/coronavirus/article241568556.html?utm_source=pushly&intcid=pushly_501127

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Scott O

30 March 2020

Mary, Mary 4:59 – If you would kindly read the whole article, you’d see the obvious reasons why.
There are rural areas that don’t have big city germs and most folks in rural areas have jobs doing stuff by themselves or not in any close proximity to others.
Duh.
Like farming and ranching so idiots like Mary can stuff their mouths with food.
And then have the stupidity and gall to call those hard working folks ‘deplorable’.
You lefties have lost your damn minds.

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Don Bessee

30 March 2020

So what with the chi com sars owning the news cycle this is still going on at the edge of the eu –
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/03/25/watch-scenes-resembling-first-world-war-as-battle-of-evros-between-greeks-migrants-turks-continues/
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fish

30 March 2020

Posted by: Michael Wanna | 30 March 2020 at 04:59 PM
Really Michael……is there a point to still more whining?
You live in Quainty Town you should be safe.

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fish

30 March 2020

How long before the brave progressives of Nevada City go full Cape Cod?

REMEMBER WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS A RACIST XENOPHOBE FOR SHUTTING DOWN FLIGHTS FROM CHINA?

Cape Codders petition: ‘Close the bridges:’ Alarmed by influx of New Yorkers, other out-of-staters. “Cape Cod’s year-round residents, alarmed by an influx of out-of-state license plates amid the coronavirus outbreak, petitioning for the shutdown of the Bourne and Sagamore bridges — to keep out vacation homeowners and avoid overwhelming their small hospitals. A Change.org petition to close the bridges had nearly 5,000 signatures by Monday afternoon, calling for officials to only let in year-round residents, medical workers and trucks that deliver essential supplies.”

Can’t wait to see Punchy, “Mary” (Michael), and “Roughly Spherical Former Newsman” manning the barricades at the outskirts of town letting in food shipments and brown people who do lawn care and then hurriedly leave.
You know….the essentials!
https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/03/30/cape-codders-petition-close-the-bridges/

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Walt

30 March 2020

LOL Mary Wanna get his ass handed to him in the facts dept.
What fries with that? Or KY???

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Don Bessee

30 March 2020

They really do want to panic the urban shithole dwellers talk about fakenews –
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-news-admits-mistake-after-airing-footage-of-overcrowded-nyc-hospital-that-was-actually-in-Italy
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Walt

30 March 2020

I see “Mary” still don’t wanna discus Joe “wallbanger”.
Seen his last hostage tape (uh) Mary? Real Presidential.
Right? So that screwball from N.Y. may slide in to UH,,, relieve Joe of the burden.

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George Rebane

30 March 2020

re fish 538pm – As a member of the county’s Large Scale Emergency Planning Committee ten years ago, I asked the sheriff’s representative at the table how many quad-fifties did the county have, stating that we needed at least three – two for the Bear River bridges, and one for the Yuba bridge. Most people around the table didn’t understand what I was talking about, but all the veterans including the deputy sheriff knew exactly what I was describing. ‘Head for the hills!’ has been a millenniums-long dictum for flatlanders escaping disasters, diseases, and invasions. And here we have at most three days of food in the stores.

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Walt

30 March 2020

George. May I suggest four of those portable retractable bridges?
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/leguan-bridge-layer-germany/
I’m sure there are a few in surplus.
Blow the bridge at the county line, and extend the bridge when the delivery trucks show up.

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Walt

30 March 2020

So.. The LIBS really scurry for cover when I show up.
Scared of a ditch digger? Or is it the fact a ditch can double as a grave? Well,, you do wind up as backfill every time you dare challenge. Getting buried with facts all the time can do that to a LIB.

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Bill Tozer

30 March 2020

Well, with all the driving around today giving out free hugs to totally surprised strangers, I plum forgot to post the Daily Quotes. Spreading the cheer to one and all.
Insight: “No one who lived through the Great Depression can ever look upon an unemployed person with anything but compassion. To me, there is no greater tragedy than a breadwinner willing to work, with a job skill but unable to find a market for that job skill.” —Ronald Reagan
Belly laugh of the week: “Don’t forget, I was there for the State of the Union Address and did greet the president at that time.” —Nancy Pelosi, who literally shredded the SOTU, on working with Donald Trump
Hyper hypocrisy: “His denial at the beginning was deadly. … His delay in getting equipment to where it’s needed is deadly. … As the president fiddles, people are dying.” —Nancy Pelosi, who delayed Congress’s aid package by several days while she injected it with a political wish list
Braying jenny: “He did promise ‘America First.’” —Hillary Clinton on U.S. cases of coronavirus
Braying jackass: “Who’s the s—thole country now?” —GQ correspondent Julia Ioffe
Alpha jackass: “If you quote the Trump admin you are an enemy of the people.” —Jennifer Rubin
Dezinformatsiya: “Do you think there is blood on the president’s hands considering the slow response?” —NBC’s Chuck Todd to Joe Biden, who decided, “I think that’s a little too harsh.”
And last… “The media has scared everyone by rerunning the worst case scenarios for the virus over and over and over again. I wonder what would happen if they started telling us about the worst case scenario for a full scale economic collapse.” —Matt Walsh

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Bill Tozer

30 March 2020

Feeling good. New Jersey Gov was stripped naked, put in the stocks in the public square, and donned with a dunce cap.
“Murphy found himself in the uncomfortable, and untenable, position of having to defend his armed protection detail while having closed down Garden State gun shops, making it impossible for average citizens to by even ammunition, much less a firearm.”
Not only that, he got the State Police (the ones who went along with him) to stop all background checks. After getting spanked by the Courts, Gov Murphy announced that gun background checks will resume at 8:00 am tomorrow morning. The Minutemen rode again. Next up is Ethan Allen and his Green Mountain Boys.
https://www.ammoland.com/2020/03/n-j-gov-murphy-backs-down-allows-gun-shops-back-open-saf-victory/#axzz6IEpCjhPd
What exactly about “shall not infringe” is so hard to understand?
https://www.anjrpc.org/page/NJSecondAmendment
Anvil falls of Wile E Coyote’s head again. Guess they never get tired of losing.

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Scott O

31 March 2020

Idaho isn’t perfect, but at least it recognises reality:
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/capitol-watch/idaho-governor-signs-into-law-anti-transgender-legislation/277-8541e9d3-2cbb-4780-8f4b-5a9b59232594
Notice the editorializing in the headline: ‘anti-transgender’. How so?
I’m sure the mentally ill will find some judge somewhere willing to go along with their delusion.
This is bound to get interesting.

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Mary Wanna

31 March 2020

Medal of Honor Deplorable Limbaugh goes full batshit,
“I think it is imperative that we have somebody like Donald Trump, who is outside the establishment expert class, who has a history of solving problems, to actually lead the country through this,” Limbaugh said.
“How do we know they’re even health experts?” Limbaugh added, going full-blown tin foil hat. “Well, they wear white lab coats, and they have been at the job for a while, and they are at the CDC, and they are at the NIH. … But have there been any job assessments for them?”
Limbaugh said:
You know, we’ve talked about the deep state all these years since Trump was elected, the Trump-Russia collusion, the FBI — well the deep state extends very deeply. And the American people did not elect a bunch of health experts that we don’t know. We didn’t elect a president to defer to a bunch of health experts that we don’t know. And how do we know they’re even health experts? Well, they wear white lab coats, and they have been at the job for a while, and they are at the CDC, and they are at the NIH. Yeah, they have been there, and they are there, but have there been any job assessments for them? They are just assumed to be the best because they are in government. These are all kinds of things I have been questioning. And I have been watching people routinely accept whatever the authorities say.

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