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[Sure would like to hear some candidate preferences from our leftwing readers.  Seems that no one here actually has a favorite whose creds they would put on display and defend.  Probably the safest route to avoid embarrassment ;-)  gjr]

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292 responses to “Sandbox – 23jan20”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Daily quotes
    Upright: “Effective bias and propaganda isn’t so much about what you say as it is about what you prevent from being heard. Control the flow of information to people and you control people.” —Peter Heck
    Narrative buzzkill: “All Mr. Bolton reportedly adds is news of a conversation in which Mr. Trump made a direct connection between the two that nearly everyone already assumed. This still isn’t close to a high crime or misdemeanor.” —The Wall Street Journal
    Friendly fire: “Now, I know I’m not the only Jewish candidate running for president. But I am the only one who doesn’t want to turn America into a kibbutz.” —Michael Bloomberg (“While Bloomberg, 77, did not mention [Bernie Sanders], 78, by name, there was no mistaking the reference to the socialist during remarks to potential Jewish Democratic primary voters. Sanders volunteered on an Israeli kibbutz, a communal farm, in the 1960s.” —Washington Examiner)
    How? By putting your son on one of their boards? “We can help [the Chinese] with some of their problems.” —Joe Biden
    Non compos mentis: “Let’s be clear: Transgender equality is the civil rights issue of our time. There is no room for compromise when it comes to basic human rights.” —Joe Biden
    A blast from the past I: “There are many very patriotic Americans who are engaged in the intelligence community. For years, decades now, I have saluted their service. Wherever the decision is, whether it’s from the administration, as was the case in the Bush administration, to withhold information from Congress, I fought that. But you don’t fight it without a price because they come after you. And they don’t always tell the truth about it.” —Nancy Pelosi in 2014
    A blast from the past II: “You take on the intelligence community, you’re a person of courage.” —Nancy Pelosi, 2014
    Braying jackass: “[Trump’s spokespeople are] like the North Korean army in the Korean War — we should charge without rifles. They don’t even have weapons. They just come out. ‘Take me, take me. I’m willing to say anything for this president.’” —MSNBC’s Chris Matthews
    The BIG Lie: “If Senate Republicans are not going to vote to call Mr. Bolton and Mr. Mulvaney and the other witnesses now, if they’re not going to ask for notes and emails, they’re going to be part of the cover-up too.” —Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer
    Letting the cat out of the bag: “[Impeachment] does have to do with the elections that are coming up later this year.” —Rep. Jason Crow
    And last… “It is rather a surprise to learn that we are all going to die from a coronavirus pandemic considering we already died from swine flu, bird flu, SARS, and ebola.” —Matt Walsh
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296/1867932636674098/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343/1867008750099820/?type=3&theater

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  2. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: Don Bessee | 28 January 2020 at 12:15 PM
    ,,,Sorry Donnie you mucked it all up…
    Mary Louise Kelly did find Ukraine on an unmarked map…and that pissed off Pompeo even more…
    That is the map of the world that Pompeo is using to teach Trump geography…
    …”It’s not like you’ve got China on your border,” the authors quoted Trump as telling Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi during a meeting between the two leaders. – from the best seller, “A Very Stable Genius”
    https://www.arabianbusiness.com/media/437781-its-not-like-youve-got-china-on-your-border-new-book-highlights-trumps-ignorance-of-history-geography

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  3. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “There is no room for compromise when it comes to basic human rights.” —Joe Biden
    Damn straight, Joe, and that’s why the 2A gets the support it gets… owning and using arms for individual and collective defense is a basic human right.

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  4. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    JBiden: “Let’s be clear: Transgender equality is the civil rights issue of our time. There is no room for compromise when it comes to basic human rights.”
    Imagine telling everyone 30 years ago that the Democrats of the future would fight and die on the hill of transsexuals and open borders.

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  5. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: Don Bessee | 28 January 2020 at 01:05 PM
    Jesus was a Berner,,,
    And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers

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  6. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    jeffp 1252pm
    Would you have kept any real journalistic job after breaking an agreement to limit questions to selected topics? Breaking a promise to be off the record?

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scenes @ 8:23 am
    More Project Veritas videos out. More of the exact same. I hear the sound of broken glass, ATM machines, and burning limos in the street.
    ————
    How low can they go? This low.
    MSNBC Host Compares Ken Starr to Murderous Drug Lord El Chapo
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2020/01/28/msnbc-host-compares-ken-starr-murderous-drug-lord-el-chapo
    In related news: Chris Matthews Compares Republicans to North Korean Soldiers.
    ————————-
    Re: Dumb Don Lemon laughing at us toothless deplorables. Shades of Hillary?
    INSURING TRUMP’S RE-ELECTION
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/insuring-trumps-re-election.php
    ————————-
    And finally…….”It is ironic that the two most angry persons on television are named Whoopi and Joy.”

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  8. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    scenes 1259pm
    Let’s keep the world safe for Drag Queen Story Hour at our local public libray. It’s for Our Kids!

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Cross Road | 28 January 2020 at 12:05 PM
    And your pitiful arguments as to why no more witnesses or documents are needed are?

    Why didn’t the democrat controlled house summon or subpoena these witnesses or documents.
    More democrap ineptitude!
    Hmmmmm…..smells like acquittal!

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  10. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    comma-man: “Jesus was a Berner,,,”
    Not to be too literal, but Jesus, if he existed, was a 1st C. Judaean Jew. He and Bernie would essentially have nothing in common at all, not even religious practices.
    cross-road (Paul?): “…why no more witnesses or documents are needed are?”
    Well, because they don’t have to be. The Senate can do as it likes. Anyone who thinks this whole event isn’t purely political needs to take a Midol and lie down.
    and so it goes. https://i.redd.it/rhh59rsvvjd41.jpg

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Doubling down on fakenewsmen at NYT or is it just a reward for carrying comeys water? –
    The New York Times hires BuzzFeed News editor who greenlit publishing Steele dossier
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-buzzfeed-news-ben-smith-steele-dossier
    😉

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  12. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    ” Feinstein leans toward acquitting Trump as his defense team ends impeachment arguments”
    Headline, LA Times

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  13. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: fish | 28 January 2020 at 01:24 PM
    Fish thinks Demos stink –
    But they think the right is dumb
    Let’s check Morning Joe
    https://twitter.com/morning_joe/status/1222170750414618624?s=21

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  14. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 28 January 2020 at 02:40 PM
    Hey props…… your 5,7,5 is improving!
    Gotta dock you thought for playing the Scarborough card though! Truth be told he went a lot further than anyone expected him to after his big break as the kid sitting on the porch and playing the banjo in Deliverance!

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    And here all along we thought that Jesus was against a payday loan business in the temple and not against loaning money – ‘Render unto Caesar …’ and all that. Whoulda thought?

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Roberta Cross level stupid……..

    Lawrence O’Donnell: Trump may have killed Soleimani “to influence Bolton not to testify to the Senate”

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/01/lawrence-odonnell-trump-may-have-killed-soleimani-to-influence-bolton-not-to-testify-to-the-senate/
    “Who’s got a hammer? Who’s doing that hammering? STOP THE HAMMERING! It’s upstairs! STOP THE GODDAMNED HAMMERING!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_OB7Z8WV4s

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  17. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sorry Gregory you got it wrong. Here’s the latest from the LA Times
    Los Angeles Times
    @latimes
    Update: Sen. Feinstein clarified her earlier comments suggesting that she could vote to acquit the president by saying, ‘It’s clear the president’s actions were wrong.’
    https://ktla.com/2020/01/28/sen-feinstein-trump-impeachment/

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  18. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    @459, that what the LA Times reported this morning so the update is just a reflection of the blue mob blowing up her phone, twitter, FB and email. Its what they do!
    😉

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Thanks for confirming my 4:59 Don

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  20. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – Gregory had nothing wrong. He correctly quoted the LA Times headline.
    https://www.thewrap.com/la-times-dianne-feinstein-impeachment-headline/

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  21. Scott O Avatar

    od-law 1:08 – You’d better stick with your box of crayons and articles from Mother Jones and DK.
    You have strayed into an area of which you have no understanding.

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  22. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Correct Scott, you can find my original post of the LA times in scattershots. Don’t hold your breath for the po’ ol’ fakenwsman to apologize to the G man. LOL!
    😉

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, let’s circle the barn again. The FBI spied on Trump. “No they didn’t! “ Yes, they did. .No, they did not spy on Trump.” Yes they did and did it illegally. “Did not!”. Did too. “You are a friggin Nazi!” Whatever.
    IG Report Proves Obama Administration Spied On Trump Campaign Big Time
    “The IG report established that the Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign, and the spying was much worse than previously thought.”
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/28/ig-report-proves-obama-administration-spied-on-trump-campaign-big-time/

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don @ last night.
    Sorry, but I just can not do with the 49er Turbo Blitz Rush, there healthy linemen, their great TE, their coaching. I must go with KC. Have you seen their namesake? Blood is thicker than water, paleface. :). Go Chiefs!
    I see your George Kittle flying a couple to the Super Bowl and raise you one 2nd year QB building homes for vets.
    “The biggest new star quarterback of NFL doesn’t get a lot of free time. Practicing is as important as game time, so when the time comes to relax, it’s understandable that a young football star might actually rest. But it turns out Patrick Mahomes, the Kansas City Chiefs’ young QB, is a star both on and off the field.
    The second-year QB spent his day off helping build transitional housing for veterans in the Kansas City area with The Veterans Community Project, a non-profit that’s building a specialized community network of tiny homes and services dedicated to supporting every man and woman who served — also known as Tiny Houses for Homeless Vets.”
    https://www.usveteransmagazine.com/2019/04/chiefs-star-quarterback-building-houses-veterans/
    —-
    https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2020/01/Screen-Shot-2020-01-19-at-9.40.17-PM.png?w=998&ssl=1
    ————-
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343/1866558513478177/?type=3
    Go Trump go!

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don @ last night.
    Sorry, but I just can not do with the 49er Turbo Blitz Rush, there healthy linemen, their great TE, their coaching. I must go with KC. Have you seen their namesake? Blood is thicker than water, paleface. :). Go Chiefs!
    I see your George Kittle flying a couple to the Super Bowl and raise you one 2nd year QB building homes for vets.
    “The biggest new star quarterback of NFL doesn’t get a lot of free time. Practicing is as important as game time, so when the time comes to relax, it’s understandable that a young football star might actually rest. But it turns out Patrick Mahomes, the Kansas City Chiefs’ young QB, is a star both on and off the field.
    The second-year QB spent his day off helping build transitional housing for veterans in the Kansas City area with The Veterans Community Project, a non-profit that’s building a specialized community network of tiny homes and services dedicated to supporting every man and woman who served — also known as Tiny Houses for Homeless Vets.”
    https://www.usveteransmagazine.com/2019/04/chiefs-star-quarterback-building-houses-veterans/
    —-
    https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2020/01/Screen-Shot-2020-01-19-at-9.40.17-PM.png?w=998&ssl=1
    ————-
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343/1866558513478177/?type=3
    Go Trump go!

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  26. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    @614 LOL!! Chop that tomahawk baby!
    😉

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    For every action, there is a reaction. Come to Papa.
    “West Virginia lawmaker invites Virginia counties to join his state amid gun control pushback”
    The law is still on the books.
    https://foxwilmington.com/politics/west-virginia-lawmaker-invites-virginia-counties-to-join-his-state-amid-gun-control-pushback/
    —————————
    Well, it’s the thought that counts. Oklahoma is OK.
    Oklahoma governor orders ban on state travel to California
    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/oklahoma-governor-orders-ban-state-travel-california-68482886
    https://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2020/01/21q-1ednsh.jpg?w=720&ssl=1

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  28. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    That fad burned out fast, why pay more for something that’s not actually healthier but fits the woke narrative –
    We may offer plant-based alternatives again in the future, but we have removed it from the menu for now,” said a spokeswoman for Tim Hortons.
    The fast-food restaurant chain had introduced the plant-based protein as a limited time offer, the spokeswoman said, adding that: “the product was not embraced by our guests as we thought it would be.”
    Responding to the removal of its products, Beyond Meat said that it may work with Tim Hortons again in the future.
    Tim Hortons said in July it was expanding plant-based meat additions in nearly 4,000 restaurants. There are about 4,800 Tim Hortons restaurants in North America.
    Tim Hortons launched breakfast sandwiches with the plant-based sausage patty in June and the plant-based burger patty in July.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/tim-hortons-pulls-beyond-meat-013238980.html
    😉

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  29. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Someone lead the pony tail of ignorance to his fainting couch after another dem big push to turn Texas blue was not even close bigger win than Trumps in that district, 58 – 42 sweet –
    AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Republicans won handily a closely watched special election Tuesday to keep hold of a suburban Houston district that President Donald Trump won easily four years ago, fending off a national blitz by Democrats in a Texas legislative race.
    The victory by Republican Gary Gates, who put more than $1.5 million of his own money into his run for state House District 28, is sure to bring a sigh of relief for the GOP in a race that was being tracked far beyond Texas. By the final weeks, the race had escalated into the first big special election of 2020.
    In final unofficial results, Gates polled 58% of the vote to 42% for Democrat Eliz Markowitz.
    Presidential candidates Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren had endorsed Markowitz, and outside groups flooded the race with six-figure checks and television ads. Beto O’Rourke practically made the district a second home after ending his own presidential campaign in November, spending weekends knocking on doors in Katy’s affluent neighborhoods.
    It escalated a normally minor local election into a high-stakes test of Democrats’ chances in Texas this November, and whether suburban voters are turning away from the party of an impeached president.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-wins-closely-watched-texas-041946934.html
    😉

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Election 2020.
    While I do not join the bandwagon that Iowa and NH are imperative to have a great showing to win the Dem nomination (as juxtaposed against South Carolina and Super Tuesday), I found a couple of items interesting and confirmed my beliefs.
    1) “The changing fortunes of the leading candidates underscores the volatile nature of the primary after more than a year of campaigning, as voters wrestle with which candidate can defeat President Trump. Despite the ascent of Mr. Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, the poll also highlighted the combined appeal of the centrists: 55 percent of those surveyed said they preferred a standard-bearer who is “more moderate than most Democrats.” Just 38 percent said they wanted one who is “more liberal than most Democrats.”
    2) Ms. Klobuchar’s supporters could play the most crucial role, though, should she fail to achieve 15 percent in most precincts. When voters were asked whom they would support if they were left with only four choices — Mr. Sanders, Mr. Buttigieg, Mr. Biden and Ms. Warren — Mr. Biden was the overwhelming favorite of Ms. Klobuchar’s backers. He received 55 percent of them in this scenario while Ms. Warren received 18 percent.
    Hmmm. 55% of Amy’s supporters would jump to Biden, eh?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/us/politics/democratic-iowa-poll-sanders.html
    Guess that means if Amy falters, I will put Steve and Punch in the Biden camp.
    —-
    In related news, Senator Doug Jones will lose Alabama no matter which way he votes on impeachment. The die is cast on that one.
    Trump now owns Guns and Life. Only candidate who does and not one single Dem is even in the ballpark. Add border control to the items Trump owns. There really is a stark difference between the final two choices this year. Rather refreshing.

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  31. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Creepy grampa joe is starting to feel the bern of too much baggage –
    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/01/28/the-dam-breaks-establishment-media-zone-in-on-biden-familys-culture-of-corruption/
    It looks like that generated this act of desperation, desperation stinks almost as bad as corruption. –
    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/01/28/jjoe-biden-suggests-making-michelle-obama-running-mate-appointing-barack-to-supreme-court/
    😉

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  32. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Just poking around…still don’t give a hoot who wins the Dem nomination. Bernie, IMHO, would do best against Trump on the debate stage and be a tough opponent for Trump….but I am only talking exclusively about a few hours on a debate stage, not the election. Anyway….
    FEELING THE BERN IN CALIFORNIA
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/feeling-the-bern-in-california.php

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  33. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BillT: “Trump now owns Guns and Life. Only candidate who does and not one single Dem is even in the ballpark.”
    Interesting point. As I read that, the Democratic candidate (regardless of identity) will be backed into a corner on all these matters. No mere handwaving about centrist immigration policy, but open borders. No middle of the road platitudes about gun control, but round up them military style assault machine rifles. Yay abortion!!
    It isn’t Trump that’ll force an uncomfortable stance (or no stance and pretend it doesn’t exist), but their own constituents. When all those crazy people are your people, you are riding the tiger. Trump sez what regular schmoes want to hear, the (D) candidate has to please their most radical members or there’ll be hell to pay.

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  34. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    You can not un-ring that bell snowflake with that lame bullshit but thanks for channeling you inner shrillary it helps turnout everywhere! You know like all those dems at the rally in NJ tonight-
    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/01/28/cnns-lemon-backtracks-on-trump-supporter-mockery-i-was-laughing-at-the-joke-and-not-at-any-group-of-people/
    😉

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  35. L Avatar
    L

    To Keach and Paul and all the other dim bulbs on this thread, the T-Rex (no elephants) in the room is that money is fungible.
    What that means is that Ukraine, absent Uncle Joe’s billion, has neither means nor incentive to employ the fruit of his loins in any capacity whatever.
    Ergo, his mil/yr came from the US taxpayer. Once that sinks in, perhaps you’ll have a clearer view of what is being discussed here.

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  36. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Just had to share this WINNING bed time snack about trade deals –
    Importers including Mexico and Japan have purchased at least 100,000 metric tons of American yellow grain for four straight business days, the longest streak of such deals in at least three years, U.S. Department of Agriculture data showed Tuesday.
    Chicago corn futures were a bright spot Tuesday in crop markets hit by fears over the spreading coronavirus in China. Futures for March were up 1.3% at $3.855 a bushel.
    “There is no one on this side of the globe offering corn for less,” said John Payne, a senior broker at Daniels Trading.
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-corn-only-game-town-173758854.html
    😉

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  37. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    “I wish some of my former colleagues at CNN, like Don Lemon, would be transparent and admit what any viewer already knows — that they are opinion talk hosts and not journalists.” — Steve Cortes
    Where have I heard this arguments before? 😂

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  38. oldaw Avatar
    oldaw

    Posted by: L | 28 January 2020 at 10:27 PM
    ‘’’What that means is that Ukraine, absent Uncle Joe’s billion, has neither means nor incentive to employ the fruit of his loins in any capacity whatever.’’’
    It looks like old uncle ‘’’L’’’ is saying that Burisma is a government entity.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burisma_Holdings

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  39. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    comma-man : “It looks like old uncle ‘’’L’’’ is saying that Burisma is a government entity.”
    Given the location, that’s probably a fair assumption, although the relationship probably works in the opposite direction.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykola_Zlochevsky
    article from a few years back, but from a quick search the oligarchs’ influence hasn’t changed much. View this as educational rather than as trying to prove a point.
    https://jamestown.org/program/oligarchs-wield-power-in-ukrainian-politics/
    Places like Ukraine are complicated, and there’s no point in anyone here pretending that they understand .0001% of it.
    I’m still not sure why an argument between the Russian Federation and Ukraine is the US’s business to the degree it has been made. It’s as if the USSR backed electoral politics and sold missiles to an anti-US Canada.

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  40. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: scenes | 29 January 2020 at 08:55 AM
    ,,,Fungibility is the new buzzword…six degrees of separation yada yada
    Every piece of hardware or aid the US government has ever given to a foreign government that has directly or indirectly resulted in a death makes us murderers according to the rule of fungability…
    A Peace Corp worker who gave some rice to a villager who then traded that rice for drugs means the US supports drug dealers..ad absurdum…

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  41. fish Avatar
    fish

    Noooooooo………!

    FIGHT THE POWER:

    VA started pushing crazy gun laws, so residents just bought 74,000 more firearms – in one month.

    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/va-started-pushing-crazy-gun-laws-so-residents-just-bought-74000-more/

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  42. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,here is a test to determine if Trump’s trumped up charges of Bidens and Burisma corruption charges ring true…
    If men’s last name was not Biden, would have given a hoot about Ukraine corruption???
    ,,,I doubt it…but you knew that

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  43. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    There are two events I consider game changers for Trump and the Deplorables during the last two years.
    1) Trump address at CPAC when he said that when Hayden Williams was beat up on the Berkeley campus, Hayden took a punch for all of us.
    2) The latest March of Life rally. Trump’s address to the assembled was an inspiring speech, no matter your views on this divisive topic. Their voices finally got heard. I can’t believe how young and friendly and positive the women and men were. All smiles, left no trash nor shouting of vulgarities. An attractant rather than a repellant. The middle of the roaders and pro-live Democrats have no welcome mat in the big tent of the Democrat Party. Not welcomed in the Democrat Party.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/women-at-the-march-for-life-reject-the-pro-choice-feminist-narrative/

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  44. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odjob | 29 January 2020 at 12:18 PM
    here is a test to determine if Trump’s trumped up charges of Bidens and Burisma corruption charges ring true…
    If men’s last name was not Biden, would have given a hoot about Ukraine corruption???
    ,,,I doubt it…but you knew that

    ……and if the presidents name was Obama would any of this have happened at all?
    Nope……but you knew that!

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  45. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “If (the) men’s last name was not Biden, would (you) have given a hoot about Ukraine corruption???”
    If their last name wasn’t Biden (or Bush or Clinton), I’m afraid that the Impregnator of Strippers wouldn’t have gotten the gig.
    I’m afraid it’s a case where Whataboutism doesn’t really fly. Maybe it’s that you need to be both greedy and powerful to take advantage of corruption, especially in sketchy countries. Greedy/powerful people are interesting, ergo you ‘give a hoot’.
    Personally, there’s no point in legal action against either Creepy Dad or Creepy Son, and perhaps no basis. But, it’s certainly worthwhile to know about if you are thinking about voting for Hunter’s father.
    Not to say that Trump wasn’t corrupt in his own way, although involuntary ‘donations’ to big city Democrats has to get disheartening over time.

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  46. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,my bad,,,If men’s last name was not Biden, would have given a hoot about Ukraine corruption
    Should read…if the men’s last name was not Biden would Trump have given a hoot about Ukraine corruption ..

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  47. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    While the schiff storm peters out real things are being accomplished. Would anyone have thought an American President could get the Arab league on board for a plan much less the military exercises with Israeli air forces? –
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/arab-leaders-support-for-mideast-peace-plan-marks-a-regional-shift-11580325868
    😉

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