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[Interesting discussion from the last sandbox on Baltimore, shithole cities, and the misguided attack on Kushner and other investors in companies willing to provide housing in crime and drug infested ghettos.  The simple-minded accuse such investors of being "slumlords" with the same logic that investors (like me) can be accused of causing the opioid epidemic by investing in pharma companies or killing women and children in the mid-east wars by investing in defense industries.  Go figger.  gjr]

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292 responses to “Sandbox – 2aug19”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The sad saga of C-lister Mario Lopez continues. He should have never apologized. Never. have blown over in a day. What kind of wack job thinks 3 year olds should make life decisions for themselves with an undeveloped brain?
    “Sympathetic as I am to Lopez, who clearly came from a position of good faith, his apology is counterproductive. Children will benefit from a robust public debate in which both sides are adequately represented. They will not be helped by apologies that enable the machine to continue processing dissent into contrition.”
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/02/the-machine-coerces-a-retraction-from-mario-lopez/
    Matt Walsh puts says the same thing in a different way
    Mario Lopez Proves Yet Again That It Never Pays To Apologize To The Left-Wing Mob
    “This is the harsh reality Mario Lopez has discovered this week. Lopez caved almost immediately after suffering blowback for making the objectively correct claim that three-year-olds shouldn’t be allowed to choose their own gender. He did specify three-year-olds, we should emphasize. It isn’t like he claimed that transgenderism is, in principle, a self-contradicting pseudo-science (which it is); rather, he asserted that toddlers probably aren’t in a good position to make these sorts of determinations about themselves. His statement was not only true, but was exceedingly modest, to boot. It was not an anti-transgenderism rant, despite how the media portrayed it. It was a polite and highly qualified observation about the psychological limitations of very young children.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/50197/walsh-mario-lopez-proves-yet-again-it-never-pays-matt-walsh
    New rules: Hey SJWs and other nut jobs, go pound sand.

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The US ‘Has the Most Mass Shootings’—and Other Bogus Gun Research
    https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/02/20/the-us-has-the-most-mass-shootings-and-other-bogus-gun-research/?
    Let’s see what the Sage of South Central has to say, aka, ‘the self loathing black man’.
    Dear Black Trolls,‬
    ‪It’s WAY more fun to cry “white nationalism”–and exaggerate white anti-black racism–than to deal with black-on-black murders–a problem FAR more serious. And, while you’re at it, let’s name call, like juveniles, those who try to enlighten.‬
    ‪#ElPasoShooting‬
    Dear @CoryBooker,‬
    ‪70% of black kids have no father in the home; 50% in many urban HSchools drop out; 25% of young black men have criminal records; #1 cause of preventable death for young black men is murder vs. accidents for young white men.‬
    ‪And your focus is “white supremacy”?‬
    “Young black men, compared to young white men, are 7x more likely to be homicide victims, almost always by other young black men. Top cause of preventable death for young whites: accidents. Top cause of preventable death for young blacks: homicide. But let talk white supremacy.‬”

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  3. Walt Avatar

    I did come up with a good solution. You just don’t like it Jigglenuts.
    Need I repeat myself? (sure I do) Relieve Proggys and their constituents of their weapons. That includes any sharp weapons.(yup, even pointy sticks)
    It makes perfect sense half/jigger. Most mass lunitic killers have turned out to be of YOUR political mind set.
    So you want to blame Trump and the NRA. Good luck with that.
    Were they there? Put the weapon in his hand? Gave him an I.M. to set him off? The NRA ship him the gun right from their storehouse?
    Lets have it half/jigger.

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  4. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Jig Wiggly | 04 August 2019 at 12:39 PM
    jUST CONDEMED KILLERS jIGHEAD. hANG THEM IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE ALONG WITH DRUG DEALERS SELLING TO KIDS. sEEMS YOU ARE THE ONE SPONSORING MURDER. yOU BETTER WATCH OUT THE hsa HAS YOU ON THEIR RADAR.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    How bout this “mass killer”? You bleeding heart LIBS will do everything to keep him from taking a well deserved dirt nap at the hands of the state.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/03/illegal-alien-accused-of-murdering-19-senior-citizens-to-face-death-penalty/
    What? Can’t blame Trump or the NRA? I know,I know. He didn’t know better, he could have done it without issue in his home country, so he believed he could do it here.
    There. Wrote the excuse for you.

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Jiggly likes to murder. Maybe he could be the hangman?

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  7. Walt Avatar

    GREAT!!!! A law was passed!!!
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/fcc-bans-robocalls-texts
    “The Federal Communications Commission voted to approve laws that ban fraudulent text messages and international robocalls last week.
    The new rules in effect neutralize loopholes in the Truth in Caller ID Act, which banned spoofing domestic calls but made it hard for the FCC to prosecute against perpetrators of scam text messages and international calls. Now, the FCC can monitor and penalize “bad actors” behind these types of schemes.”
    Any bets the calls keep coming?
    Yup, a law will stop it all….. Good luck with that.
    Maybe jiggers can get a law passed outlawing mass shootings.
    It would do just as much good.

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Eating their own
    “Hardly any new wind turbines were built in Germany in the first half of the year. Turbine makers call it a “punch in the gut of the green energy transition” and blame environmentalists.”
    https://www.thegwpf.com/collapse-of-wind-power-threatens-germanys-green-energy-transition/

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  9. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    They are going to pull his liberal card for telling the truth –
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

    @neiltyson
    · 6h
    In the past 48hrs, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.
    On average, across any 48hrs, we also lose…
    500 to Medical errors
    300 to the Flu
    250 to Suicide
    200 to Car Accidents
    40 to Homicide via Handgun
    Often our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data.
    😉

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The way I see it, drunk driving deaths, albeit down, are avoidable. So, if we ban cars from all the good drivers, that will solve everything.
    Boy, I could sell a million for these to the stink-asses in Berkeley.
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2467949133243277&set=a.444475062257371&type=3&theater

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The Sage of South Central is ducking it out with the trolls.
    Black troll: “Our problem is people like Larry Elder.”‬
    ‪Elder: No, our problem is an anti-education attitude; out-of-wed lock births; a victicrat mentality that exaggerates racism; and an unwillingness to take advantage of available opportunities. In other words, people like you.‬
    ———-
    Now they are picking on a po Black Immigrant…solely because she is a POC Woman!!
    “Omar could have responded that we shouldn’t fear anyone based on race, ethnicity, or religion, and that each person should be judged according to his or her own merits — but instead, she took the opportunity to fear monger about the dreaded white man.
    “According to the Department of Justice, white people (not just men) commit about 45% of the murders in the U.S. That seems high until you consider that white people are over 60% of the population. Whites are therefore underrepresented in the homicide department by about 15%. Blacks commit a little over 50% of the murders in America, despite accounting for only 13% of the total population. Those are the simple facts of the matter. Facts cannot be racist. Lies can be racist. Conclusions can also be racist. Ilhan Omar took a racist lie (that white men cause most of the deaths in America) and drew a racist conclusion (that we should therefore fear white men). It’s a racism double whammy, of sorts….
    “…of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far-right politics violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73%) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27%). The total number of fatalities is 106 for far right violent extremists and 119 for radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period. However, 52% of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event — an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016.
    “In order to make “far-right violent extremists” the deadliest, one has to compile his aggregate numbers beginning on September 12, 2001. That seems an oddly specific date. Why not start on January 1, 2001? How about January 1, 2000? Isn’t it easier and cleaner to look at the numbers over the past 20 years, since the beginning of the new century? Well, the reason for starting on September 12, 2001 is obvious — it excludes the deadliest terror attack in American history, which was carried out by Islamic extremists. In other words, if we arbitrarily ignore the 3,000 people radical Islamists killed in one day, then Muslim terrorists have recently killed fewer people than have right-wing extremists. This is a bit like tabulating the total number of people drowned in shipwrecks except for anyone who happened to drown on April 15, 1912.
    If you want to know about shipwrecks, it seems the Titanic ought to be a prominent part of that analysis. Similarly, any analysis of terrorism in the United States must obviously include the most devastating terror attack this country has ever experienced. But here’s the kicker: Even if you did begin your tabulation on September 12, 2001, deaths by Islamic terrorism still dwarf all other categories because over 1,000 people have died from illnesses tied to 9/11 in the intervening years. Or do they also not count?
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/49891/walsh-ilhan-omar-claims-white-men-cause-most-matt-walsh?

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  12. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    Bestees 9:41– the only problem with your, Neil deGrasse Tyson’s, and other spurious comparisons, like Chicago, is that mass shootings occur in one place at the same time not spread across the country or a city over a day or two. It is a weak comparison that only attempts to deflect from the real issues into how and why hate crimes occur. They are on the rise you know and most are white men killing people of color or of a non-christian religion. Is it a coincidence that this rise in white nationalist attacks has increased with trumps rhetoric of hate and mistrust toward people non-white non-christian people and the failure of politicians to enact or enforce reasonable gun laws?

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    All this Dem vitriolic rhetoric is making me nervous. VDH
    “Nonetheless, the current climate is becoming scary. Those who brag of wanting to violently attack the president should worry about where their boasts will finally lead if any of the thousands of James Hodgkinsons in America take such threats seriously and act upon them.”
    https://patriotpost.us/opinion/64646-menacing-invective-against-trump-creates-dangerous-climate?

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  14. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Yo troll, talk to Tyson.
    😉

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Robert Cross | 04 August 2019 at 06:44 PM
    Now that sounds just like Steve Frisch’s comments on A Facebook post he and I are enjoying. Almost exactley. Hmmm. I wonder.

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  16. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Note to troll, they are all crazy as trolls and gang bangers.
    😉

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Here is Frisch’s from FB today
    ” Hey, as a native Chicagoan I would like to see crime in that city decline, but you cannot compare dozens of separate incidents in the city over the weekend to a politically and racially motivated mass killing acting on the words of our white nationalist, racist, asshole of a President.”

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  18. Scott O Avatar

    Bobby’s brain on drugs – “trumps rhetoric of hate and mistrust toward people non-white non-christian people and the failure of politicians to enact or enforce reasonable gun laws?
    Nice to be able to just make up stuff, Bobby.
    Maybe you could provide actual video or audio of Trump’s ‘rhetoric of hate and mistrust toward people non-white non-christian people…’?
    ‘…Enact or enforce reasonable gun laws?’
    And those would be?
    Remember that in California, the Dems are loosening the laws as they pertain to gun crimes and stolen guns.
    I would just love to hear about these ‘reasonable’ gun laws.
    Unfortunately Bobby, like Jiggy and the other leftys can’t seem to come up with anything beyond the latest talking points they are fed.
    What ‘reasonable’ gun law would have prevented the El Paso shooter from killing and wounding all those poor people?
    Waiting…

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    What again is the evidence please that Trump is a ‘white nationalist’, ‘racist’, or purveyor of ‘hate rhetoric’? Is it still just the typical naked evidence-free leftwing assertions, or can someone cite some quotes that give support to these accusations?

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  20. Scott O Avatar

    But George – there’s a lot of people on the TV that say he is.
    You can’t expect folks like Jiggy and Bobby to plumb the depths of reality any further than that?
    Of course, stomping their feet while they say it seems to help.
    Ooooh, it MUST be true, it MUST!!!

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  21. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    you all have become so politicized that you would not know the truth if it hit you in the face… which it does daily. Fake news, lies, deep state conspiracies, liberal talking points, right? If you would get some information from somewhere other than Brietbart you would find all of the quotes you want that directly point to trump’s rhetoric and its relationship to the rise in hate crimes perpetrated by white nationalists.

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  22. Scott O Avatar

    Here’s part of the problem – “El Paso County Sheriff Richard Wiles says he is “outraged” after “this Anglo man came here to kill Hispanics.” His comment came in a Facebook post after a man from Allen, Texas, traveled nearly nine hours to El Paso where he is now accused of killing 20 people and wounding 26 more.”
    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/08/04/el-paso-sheriff-outraged-after-anglo-man-came-here-to-kill-hispanics/
    WTH!!?? Why is this turd still in uniform?
    Folks – this is racism. Pure and simple.
    How naive I was – I seem to remember a simpler time when we strove for a color blind society. Now we have to look at skin color and ethnicity and God knows what else before we drill down to ‘human’.
    Hey Sheriff – let me help you out. Innocent human beings were murdered. Got it? Could you stop running for office for just a sec and maybe get things under control in your city?

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  23. Scott O Avatar

    Well, well, well – little Bobby responds to my challenge with NOTHING.
    No facts or quotes or anything.
    Just an empty headed rant that is demonstrably false.
    Sorry Bobby – I get my news from a much wider variety of sources than you – and that includes the NYTs DK Mother Jones and a whole host of left, center and conservative sites.
    I’m wondering what kind of person walks around believing things he has no proof of? How does that work for you, Bobby?

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  24. Scott O Avatar

    And what about those ‘reasonable’ gun laws?
    I notice Bobby won’t even touch that one.

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
  26. Scott O Avatar

    But BT, that ruins the arc of the story.
    Bobby and Jiggy and the Dem candidates were SO hoping it would be part of the NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!
    Of course it’s still all Trump’s fault if you would just insert your head into an area up between your legs, you’d see!

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    And what go Wal-Mart shoppers smell like? They smell like hillbillies. Trump supporters, you know. Gawd, who would go to a Wal-Mart? Trump supporters, you can smell them for miles.
    https://www.newsweek.com/peter-strzok-trump-smell-hillbillies-1020892

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scott @ 8:43.
    “Contrary to the media narrative currently boiling over, this shooter was not a Trump fan. In fact, he hated Trump, hated Republicans, was an avowed leftist, used antifa style language in his posts, and loved Elizabeth Warren [and a Bernie fan!]
    “This all leaves very little question about who Betts really was. He was absolutely a far leftist. He was not a white supremacist and hated religious people. He repeated antifa, as well as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez talking points on his social media. He was a global warming enthusiast and an avowed socialist. Every piece of evidence we have points to his radicalization coming via the left, not the right.”
    ———-
    Boy, Scott, he really hated Christians as well and a Bernie fan to boot. One of those global warming radicals. And just this evening @ 6:58 I posted these words from VDH:
    “Nonetheless, the current climate is becoming scary. Those who brag of wanting to violently attack the president should worry about where their boasts will finally lead if any of the thousands of James Hodgkinsons in America take such threats seriously and act upon them.”
    Yep, no doubt we won’t be hearing about the Dayton shooter from the The Enemy of the Truth in the lamestream fakenews media no more. Crickets.

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Do you know what BOTH shooters have in common? They both done got their melons filled with that Mean Green Eco Machine Stuff. Really got them pissed off.
    The Wal-Mart Manifesto.
    The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is
    destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive
    burden for future generations. Corporations are heaing the destruction of our environment by
    shamelessly over harvesting resources. This has been
    a problem for decades. For example, this
    phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades
    old classic “The Lorax”. Water sheds around the
    country, especially in agricultural areas, are being depleted. Fresh water is being polluted from farming
    and oil drilling operations. Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste
    and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent. Urban sprawl create
    Is inefficient cities which unnecessarily destroys millions of acres of land. We even use god knows how
    many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water of
    off our hands. Everything I have seen and heard in my
    short life has led me to believe that the average A
    merican isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if
    the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. The
    government is unwilling to tackle these issues
    beyond empty promises since they are owned by corporations. Corporations that also like immigration
    because more people means a bigger market for their
    products. I just want to say that I love the people
    of this country, but god damn most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next
    logical step is to decrease the number of people in
    America using resources. If we can get rid of enough
    people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.

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  30. Walt Avatar

    Well Well. That gives me more ammo to send jiggy’s way.
    Where is half/jigger anyway?
    See? I’m onto something. Time to disarm Proggys.
    What’s a Proggy doing with a 100 round magazine in the first place?
    Better add “Do you vote Democrat?” on gun background check forms. Right above “Do you use Marijuana?”

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  31. Scott O Avatar

    There’s a good essay from NR on the ‘manifesto’ ban.
    You don’t need to see these things – just believe what the ‘experts’ tell you.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/el-paso-shootings-free-speech-curbs/
    Twitter leads the way in blocking reality –
    “Last March, John Lott, head of the Crime Prevention Research Center and author of the book More Guns, Less Crime, sent out this tweet trying to debunk claims that the Christchurch shooter was a right-winger.
    New Zealand killer’s manifesto says that he did attack to get more gun control/gun bans in New Zealand and the US, Killer was a socialist, environmentalist who hated capitalists and trade.
    After this post, Twitter blocked Lott’s Twitter account without explanation.”
    Well, of course – we can’t have double un-fun facts floating around for the public to see.

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  32. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, Mr. Walt. Look at it from the Modern Progressive POV. They dodged a bullet. Blew Baltimore right off the front pages and took the heat off them. Progressives never cared about Baltimore or her citizens away. Just imagine we could have done with 16 billion from HUD in 2018 in community redevelopment grants and another 1.8 billion this year alone. Heck, Baltimore isn’t that big.. They don’t care about. Altimore or her black citizens.
    Or think of it this way: Last week, the left denounced Trump for reaching a deal with Guatemala that declares the country a “safe” location for asylum seekers. Guatemala, they said, has too much crime and too many gangs to be considered safe; making people stay there is a human rights violation. And yet, Baltimore’s murder rate is double that of Guatemala. In almost any way a city can be a disaster, Baltimore qualifies. More than 22% of the city lives in poverty. Almost 65% of children grow up in single-parent households. The schools are a catastrophe. In 2017, one-third of Baltimore’s high schools had zero students proficient in math. That’s right. In 13 of Baltimore’s 39 high schools, not a single student — not one — was proficient in math. You’d think that would be a national scandal. Bernie Sanders visited Baltimore a few years ago, and to his credit, he was shocked: “Anyone who took the walk that we took around this neighborhood would not think you’re in a wealthy nation. You would think that you were in a Third World country.”
    Looks like Bernie must be a white supremacist. Actually, he’s just an old-fashioned liberal. That’s how Democrats used to think; if they saw misery and urban decay, they wanted to fix it. Modern progressives are different. Progressivism isn’t about helping the people beneath you; it’s about establishing your moral superiority. Democrats support the status quo in Baltimore. It doesn’t bother them. That’s not surprising. They created modern Baltimore. The city hasn’t had a Republican mayor in more than 50 years. Things really began to fall apart after the 2015 riots. The Obama administration imposed a consent decree on the city’s police department that radically restricted its ability to protect citizens. Not surprisingly, crime exploded. Cummings, by the way, praised that consent decree. He’s very much part of the problem.”
    https://townhall.com/columnists/tuckercarlsonandneilpatel/2019/08/02/democrats-dont-care-about-baltimore-n2551070
    Keep the heat on, Mr. Trump
    “Last time I checked, leading a great metropolitan area, with a majority of citizens who are people of color, into death and despair and poverty is the racist attack on that city. Calling it out, demanding change and discussing how the people of that city deserve better, is the height of leadership.
    “While some Democratic leaders insist it’s America’s 400 years of racism that’s responsible for the condition of inner cities, it is instead a systemic addiction to power and money that is ravaging Democratic-run metropolises and continues unabated because the Democratic Party doesn’t actually care about people’s lives, simply seeing them as fodder in their political wars.”
    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/1/how-democrats-destroyed-baltimore-and-other-americ/
    Do you know real racism is??? Real racism is seeing your fellow citizens in need and doing nothing to help.

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Aha! Never let a good crisis go to waste. The plot thickens. Urgency! Urgency!
    “How many more people have to DIE violent deaths at racist hands before impeaching the president for inciting white nationalist terrorism and violence is taken as seriously as impeaching him for obstructing justice? The real national emergency is Donald J. Trump’s terrorism,” Tribe tweeted on Sunday morning.
    “I’m actually prepared to take executive action to put in place rules that improve this situation,” she told the Examiner. “I also have as part of my background and experience working on this issue, when I was attorney general [of California], and we put resources into allowing law enforcement to actually knock on the doors of people who were on two lists — a list where they had been found by a court to be a danger to themselves and others.”
    She (Kamala) continued, “They were on a list where they were precluded and prohibited from owning a gun because of a conviction that prohibited that ownership. Those lists were combined and then we sent law enforcement out to take those guns, because, listen, we have to deal with this on all levels, but we have to do this with a sense of urgency.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/50224/harvard-law-prof-calls-trumps-impeachment-after-paul-bois?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro
    White Supremacy Terrorism advocated by Trump. Impeach the mo fro now and take the guns as well. Killing two birds that Leftinistas hate the most with one stone. Sweet. They are almost as big of shameless opportunists as Hillary and Bill. That’s a high bar to meet.

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  34. Scott O Avatar

    BT – 10:36 Yeah, let’s make a ‘list’. The trouble is – how many of these shooters had a previous conviction? Almost none. The Parkland FL shooter was someone they had ample evidence of being a danger, but the local Dem Sheriff just let him slide. Maybe the list will have to be ‘expanded’ a bit to include anyone who publicly points out facts embarrassing to the authorities?
    Like the ‘no-fly’ list? Your name just suddenly appears on the list and God help you figure out why or how to get it off the list.
    Was it Buttle or Tuttle?

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  35. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    Beam him up.
    Scotty can parse the manifest in the third person to establish his own meaning. It was a trifle more complex than Scotty would lead you to believe.
    “Twitter blocked Lott’s Twitter account without explanation.” Bull crap: Here is Twitter’s explanation, you may not like the explanation but don’t pretend they didn’t give one:
    “We don’t comment on individual accounts for privacy and security reasons, but for background, it’s against our policies to share content that glorifies violence on Twitter, including directly linking to that information. Additionally, we enforce the Twitter Rules impartially for all users, regardless of their background or political affiliation.””
    Anders Breivik and Donald Trump were the shooter’s inspirations.
    “The author cites Norwegian terrorist Anders Behring Breivik and others as an inspiration. He says he supports U.S. president Donald Trump as “a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose”, but not as “a policy maker and leader””

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  36. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scott @ 10:04 pm
    Take away line:
    “This is not to minimize the racist white-supremacist views expressed by either killer, but merely to merely they don’t neatly fit into a Right-–Left paradigm. But that’s not a message many people want to hear.”
    ‘They don’t neatly fit into a Right-Left paradigm.’ Bingo. Then, what are they? Non political new breed? What box to they fit in? Square pegs to put in round holes. A Green Preservationist? Green Segregationist? Mixed brew? Politics is downstream of culture?
    Thought of this quote from an old forgotten article. Permanent social discontent now reshaping……David Duke and Bernie ‘supping out of the same pot.’
    “ Caddell saw that Perot’s success was not a unique situation but rather a sign of permanent social discontent now reshaping the traditional political system. He said that David Duke and Vermont’s Bernie Sanders — one the head of the KKK and the other a Jewish socialist, both with rising profiles in national politics — were “supping out of the same pot.”

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jig Wiggly | 05 August 2019 at 08:18 AM
    Yeah….this is about the only thing I agree with Frisch about on these matters….this is not a free speech issue. Of course it’s hypocritical….they very rarely jihadi cheerleaders…. but that’s their decision.
    This for instance is just a lie; “Additionally, we enforce the Twitter Rules impartially for all users, regardless of their background or political affiliation.” it’s why people are developing alternative platforms to the “in the tank for progressivism” Twitter™.

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  38. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    Just a little memory refresher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc4y0GOtbhI
    Let us not forget these historical moments.

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  39. fish Avatar
    fish

    ….they very rarely jihadi cheerleaders….
    ….they very rarely silence jihadi cheerleaders.
    Crap!

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar

    This just surfaced:
    “Three months before one of the deadliest public mass shootings in U.S. history, allegedly driven in part by white nationalism, President Trump asked a Florida audience how to stop migrants from crossing into the United States.
    “How do you stop these people? You can’t, there’s —” Trump said, cutting himself off as a rally attendee yelled back, “Shoot them.”
    Trump paused and smirked, before responding, “That’s only in the Panhandle can you get away with that statement.” The crowd cheered for nearly 10 seconds before Trump continued.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/05/when-rally-goer-suggested-shooting-immigrants-may-trump-made-joke/?utm_term=.b7ceddc4f273

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  41. Scott O Avatar

    from Jiggy – “Bull crap: Here is Twitter’s explanation, you may not like the explanation but don’t pretend they didn’t give one:”
    I didn’t ‘pretend’ anything. At the time it was written, they hadn’t given one to my knowledge. After it went viral, they had to come up with a stupid lie.
    Say – speaking of ‘pretending’ – here’s one from Jiggy:
    “My travels take me hither and yon and unfortunately that includes the homophobic, right wing religious frothing at mouth Republican controlled Jacksonville that is in a state of ruin.”
    We’re still waiting for proof about these frothing at the mouth folks in a city in ‘ruin’.
    Looks like Jiggy is the one with bull crap.
    No proof, just makes it up as he goes.
    Waiting…

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    Paul 10:53 – it was a joke. I know you’ll claim it wasn’t but it was.
    The shooter said he had his mind made up about the illegals before Trump was even pres. And there’s no evidence that the shooter even heard this remark.
    The bottom line is that when a lefty Dem becomes pres, we’ll have even more of this type of violence. It started long before Trump and it will get worse because the underlying reasons for these nutters will still be there.

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  43. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 05 August 2019 at 10:53 AM
    Punch you realize that somebody yelling something from the audience followed by a joke to diffuse the moment is going to change any minds on either side…..?
    You do understand that…..don’t you?

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    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 05 August 2019 at 10:53 AM
    You also understand that upwards of a million illegal immigrants a year pouring across the borders is causing stress in a certain “segment” of the population?

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    Only the Circle of Jerks on this blog and Trump would consider a response of “shoot them” to be funny which is the essence of what a “joke” is. Fish do you think this exchange was funny?

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  46. Scott O Avatar

    fish – “.this is not a free speech issue.”
    Not here, not yet. It is in many other so-called ‘free’ countries. How long before the US decides to ‘honor’ the other countries’ internet restrictions?
    We’re hanging on by a thread to our Constitutional Rights. The situation is getting worse, not better.

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  47. Scott O Avatar

    We didn’t say we thought it was funny, moron. We said it was meant as a joke.
    But you haven’t got the intelligence to separate the two.

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  48. Paul Emery Avatar

    So do you think Trumps response was ok and appropriate fish?

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