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[I voted for John McCain in 2008, even though I considered him a weak entry by the Republicans.  But he was a man who had fought the good fight for America, and was a military hero in the true (old) sense of the word.  While not agreeing with all of his politics – especially that climate change should be a national security issue for the US – but he did hew sufficiently to the conservative views on property, security (e.g. US as world's white hat hegemon), and liberty.  His parting shot at President Trump will assure that his funerary plaudits will make political history.  Thank you for your service, and RIP Senator McCain. gjr]

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242 responses to “Sandbox – 27aug18”

  1. '''M''' Avatar
    ”’M”’

    ,,,lol

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  2. '''M''' Avatar
    ”’M”’

    ,,,annuit coeptis,,

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  3. '''M''' Avatar
    ”’M”’

    ,,,give it up George,,,IGWT has only been around since your cold warrior, anti-commie, red scare days,,,
    A law passed in a Joint Resolution by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by President Dwight Eisenhower on July 30, 1956, declared “In God We Trust” must appear on American currency.

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar

    Here’s a Trump quote spreading hate and fear to the Christian community. I’ve been made aware of posters in our community on stop signs saying “Berkley traitors go home before we patriots deport you’re stink asses”. Not that’s violent hate speech from the right in our own community.
    “If the GOP loses, he said, “they will overturn everything that we’ve done and they’ll do it quickly and violently, and violently. ”
    I’ve been made aware of posters in our community on stop signs saying “Berkley traitors go home before we patriots deport you’re stink asses”. Not that’s violent hate speech from the right in our own community.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/trump-told-christian-leaders-he-got-rid-law-he-didn-n904471

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar

    sp
    Now that’s violent hate speech from the right in our own community.

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    M 845pm – I take it you tried to make a point – what is it?
    PaulE 915am – Now I’m not in favor of such anonymous signs posted over traffic signs or anywhere else for that matter. However, where was that a “Trump quote”, and how does it single out the “Christian community” into which to spread “hate and fear”?

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar

    there is hate being spread by the right in our own community George, pure and simple.

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  8. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “,,,give it up George,,,IGWT has only been around since your cold warrior, anti-commie, red scare days,,,”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-cent_piece_(United_States)#/media/File:1865_Two_Cent_Obverse.png

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  9. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Berkley(sic) traitors go home before we patriots deport you’re(sic) stink asses”
    lol. Yeah, sure.
    “red scare days,,,””
    Given the Russia fooferaw as of late, in an era when they are small, relatively weak and not especially expansionistic (at least compared to the modern US or the former USSR), the irony of that is sweet.

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  10. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 August 2018 at 09:20 AM
    HATE HATE HATE HATE……..! Hatey hate hate!
    God……do you ever stop whining?

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  11. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “God……do you ever stop whining?”
    I think that the correct term is ‘puling’.

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  12. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 920am – Nothing in these pages gets passed on the basis of someone asserting it to be “pure and simple” – that is grist for other venues. By calls for one side silencing the other, vandalism during elections, demonstrations bearing hateful messages, …, the Left has overwhelmingly owned that kind of behavior here and across the nation.
    I wonder, do you consider my commentaries in these pages to ‘spread hate’?

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: scenes | 29 August 2018 at 09:28 AM
    I think that the correct term is ‘puling’.

    Pule
    pyo͞ol
    verb literary
    gerund or present participle: puling
    cry querulously or weakly.
    “she’s no puling infant”
    Origin: late Middle English (originally referring to a bird’s cry): probably imitative; compare with French piauler, in the same sense.
    Translate puling to
    Use over time for: puling
    I stand corrected!

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar

    Not you’re commentaries necessarily George but some of your blogsters certainly do, the Greek- Scottish incident being a prime example.
    The point is there is a violent strain of right wingers in our community that are spreading hate and fear. That poster on a stop sign caused me to notify the Nevada City police to be on the alert for an incident since it was intimidating and specifically posted to be viewed by folks attending the Mime Troupe performance that evening.

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1001am – Since my conservetarian leaning puts me on the Right, and I do hobnob with the county’s Repub leadership, I would be very interested in reporting to them what the Left sees as examples of a “violent strain of right wingers in our community that are spreading hate and fear.” I guarantee you, that you would open some Republican eyes and therefore perform a public service hereabouts, and I will make sure that your report will get heard.

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  16. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    ,,,In God We Trust,,nationalist propaganda!!!
    ”’A similar kind of ambiguity surrounds the use of “In God We Trust.” It became ubiquitous only during the Cold War and could almost be considered nationalistic propaganda. It was on the basis that “In God We Trust” is more secular than religious that a federal judge threw out Newdow’s case 10 years ago.”’
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/in-god-we-trust-doesnt-mean-what-you-think-it-does

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  17. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: “M” | 29 August 2018 at 11:15 AM

    Oh duhsKKKi……
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib-Qiyklq-Q

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  18. George Rebane Avatar

    M 1115am – so then what is your problem with its use on our currency etc?

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  19. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 August 2018 at 10:01 AM

    UN urges fight against ‘hate’ speech…

    Way to go Punch…..apparently your report to the Nevada City police has worked its way up the chain to that ultimate authority…..well done!
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/un-urges-facebook-proactively-fight-hate-speech-002613675.html

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  20. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    ”’President Theodore Roosevelt, who had been a Sunday School teacher, strongly believed in the separation of church and state. When he took office after McKinley’s assassination, he deliberately did not swear on a bible and he did not believe that currency should bear IN GOD WE TRUST because money is used to buy worldly goods and services.
    Roosevelt said in 1907, “My own feeling in the matter is due to my very firm conviction that to put such a motto on coins, or to use it in any kindred manner, not only does no good but does positive harm, and is in effect irreverence, which comes dangerously close to sacrilege…”’

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar

    Thanks George. I’ll follow up with you.

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: “M” | 29 August 2018 at 11:26 AM
    I’m surprised that a towering intellect like yourself, a mind beset if you will, would be swayed by an argument made from a religious perspective. In any case Teddy checked out 40ish years before the policy was enacted, his opinion is moot.

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  23. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, writing as one of Scottish ancestry, I’ll say I was not offended in the least by the claimed “Scottish” incident. I am offended by your incessant pushing against people who disagree with your politics, and I’m also offended by your faux libertarianism. There are no “Green” libertarians in the ways you claim.
    During the 2016 primary season you made a bold claim to me, face to face… the hard part after the November election will be rehabilitating the empty shells of GOP voters after their world is crushed. How’s that worked out for you and yours? How many have moved after you’ve pointed them towards communities where ‘their kind’ seems happier?
    Regarding L’s commentary on the worst STD (840pm)… that’s so 16th Century. The new 20th century plague STD that’s into the 21st has killed more than the French Disease (aka the English Disease) ever did.

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  24. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Winning –
    Micron Tech. announced a $3,000,000,000.00 expansion of its facilities in Va. behind the tax cuts.
    😉

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    That’s just too funny!
    Liberal Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum, fresh off his upset victory in Florida’s gubernatorial primary, is being showered with praise from big Democratic socialists like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – all eager for an epic ideological clash in the race against Trump-backed GOP Rep. Ron DeSantis.
    But back home in Florida, Gillum is grappling with a controversy that could distract from this political war of ideas: the ongoing FBI investigation into possible corruption in Tallahassee, the city he has led since 2014.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/29/florida-dem-who-scored-upset-primary-victory-haunted-by-citys-corruption-probe.html
    😉

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory:
    It was an act of kindness to Todd that he might be happier in a Red County since Nevada County is on the way to being solid blue.
    Amazing that you take no offense in you’re ancestors being called animal —–ers.. Wow
    I have the right to define my politics (Green Libertarian) in any I wish. I could care less what you think of it.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    This is the link where the Trump quote spreading hate and fear came from. the quote was :
    “If the GOP loses, he said, “they will overturn everything that we’ve done and they’ll do it quickly and violently, and violently. ”
    And another quote showing Trump spreading lies:
    “Now one of the things I’m most proud of is getting rid of the Johnson Amendment,” the president said. “That was a disaster for you.”
    The president doesn’t have the power to repeal a law — only Congress can do that. The Supreme Court can also rule a law unconstitutional, but that has not happened in this case.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/trump-told-christian-leaders-he-got-rid-law-he-didn-n904471

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  28. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Exclusionary acts are never acts of kindness, Paul, and don’t count your color changes until they’ve hatched. Right now, it’s 50/50. Hillary Hodge lost the last time, and I’d guess she’ll lose again for the GV city council.
    I live here, I’m happy here. And Todd probably is, too. Live with it or move yourself, Paul.
    But my ancestors were not called animal… ummm… And I was one of the folks making allusion to it…. Scotland, where the men are men and the sheep are scared. It’s an old joke, Paul, get over it. It doesn’t mean any person in particular had ancestors who were active in ‘animal husbandry’ and got away with it. Keach… well, I’ll let him deny his ovine ancestry himself.
    “M” aka Doug Keachie is a blog vandal. He deserves the crap that his thrown his way.

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  29. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 110pm – This is a bit embarrassing. Paul, you misunderstood the Trump quote you cited – “If the GOP loses, he said, “they will overturn everything that we’ve done and they’ll do it quickly and violently, and violently. There’s violence. When you look at Antifa and you look at some of these groups — these are violent people.”” He was talking about the LEFT, the Antifa becoming violent in overturning what the GOP has accomplished after Obama.
    And in your 112pm citation, there is nothing about Trump saying anything about violence. The only use of that word was by a pastor questioning Trump and referring to the violence in Democrat run cities.
    Do you have any more such ‘evidence’ of Trump fomenting violence?

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  30. Paul emery Avatar
    Paul emery

    I understand the quote. Trump was using fear to incite violence from the right. He is taking the actions of a small fringe group and saying they will be common if the Republicans lose the election. We’re already seeing that locally with the call to action for Violence from whoever put up the signs

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  31. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 139pm – Oh, I see. Predicting correctly the violence of the Left is to be interpreted as inciting violence from the Right. And your citation of the recent posted signs advocating deportation is the best you can do as an “already” call to violence. I think you have given new meaning to ‘That’s really a stretch.’ Maybe psychology was a missed calling 😉

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    What does ” “Berkley traitors go home before we patriots deport you’re stink asses” mean to you other than forcibly kicking people out of Nevada County? How can it mean anything else? We cannot deport anyone to a different part of our country right? “We patriots deport” is the action promised if Berkley traitors don’t go home. It’s directly advocating violence. Caused me to call the police to be on the alert.

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  33. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “Caused me to call the police to be on the alert. ”
    No Paul – it did not ’cause’ you to call anyone.
    You probably clutched at your pearls so tightly, you had a loss of blood to the brain and were delirious for a spell.
    I’m wondering just what it was you thought the police were to be alerted to?

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    You don’t understand the situation. If there would have been an incident I would have been liable for not informing the police in advance of the threat made in the poster. It was absolutely a threat of violence and not just a funny thing to say.

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  35. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    You would be liable? You are not a mandated reporting job like psychiatrists, you are just a po’ ol’ fakenewsman!

    WINNING!
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/29/canadas-trudeau-says-nafta-deal-possible-by-friday.html
    😉

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    That was meant for Scott(2:57)
    Sorry George

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    You don’t have a clue Don. Not reporting a threat if you are a producer of an event would be a serious matter. You seem to imply it was ok to post that.

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    How about this. Good reason to support the Dems to take over the House. Drain the swamp starting with fat yellow Carp running the show.
    “If Democrats win control of the House in November they will finally have the votes to force an issue they’ve been hammering for nearly two years: Making President Donald Trump disclose his tax returns.
    Since Trump took office, Democrats have forced 11 votes in the House of Representatives to require that the IRS hand over Trump’s returns. These votes all failed because only one member of the Republican majority joined the Democrats in their request. If Democrats win 217 or more seats in the November election ― which they have a 74 percent chance to do, according to the polling aggregation site FiveThirtyEight ― they will have enough votes to get these documents.
    “You’re damn right” Democrats will vote to get Trump’s tax returns if they win a majority in November, said Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.).”
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-tax-returns-democrats-house_us_5b8706b9e4b0511db3d453b6

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    SP Orange Carp

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  40. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    lol. OK, I’ll bite. Just where are the “Berkley traitors go home before we patriots deport you’re stink asses” posters or signs?
    On a pickup rear window? Bumper sticker? It’s kind of long for a bumper sticker I guess.
    Maybe it was some sort of sky writing? Written in cuneiform via chemtrails? Not in a box? Not in a fox? Not in a house? Not with a mouse?
    It’s probably time to call up the FBI in Roseville. Some serious hatey haters action goin’ on here. I’d pay good money to hear the phone call. I’d fall off my chair when you got to the ‘stink asses’ part.
    Ah, here we go….
    https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/love-and-kierkegaard-in-the-age-of-trump/#!
    So Paul heard a thing from somebody who read a thing by somebody who wrote a thing about a thing that happened some months ago.
    Seriously, this is sweet.

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  41. Walt Avatar

    How much more “PRO CRIMINAL” can this state get?
    https://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/08/29/california-ends-cash-bail-bail-industry/
    First the state decriminalizes crime, now this….

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  42. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    It occurs to me that the problem with imaginary signs extolling the benefits of deporting stink asses is that the prose never flows.
    This is much better I think:
    https://i.redd.it/ekx98snn11j11.jpg

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scenes
    I saw and removed the sign the night of the show. It was posted on the stop sign on Bridge Street right next to the venue having the event. Obviously aimed at the audience going to the Mime Troupe. It was illegal because it was covering the stop sign. If the sign maker would have had any courage they would have carried the sign on the sidewalk as an expression of free speech but they were such chicken shits they did a hit and run blocking a stop sign with their sign.

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  44. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    So now “I’ve been made aware of posters in our community on stop signs” has become, “I saw and removed a poster in our community on stop signs”?
    Throw a picture of it up on an image sharing site.
    For all I know, ‘stink asses’ signs might be a real collector’s item in the future, rather like those Toynbee Tiles street art pieces. I’d hang onto it, you’ll need it for the FBI investigation in any case.

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  45. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Hang on, maybe Paul is right on this. Look what I found.
    https://tinyurl.com/y7tjxklb

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  46. fish Avatar
    fish

    Obviously aimed at the audience going to the Mime Troupe.
    Obviously!

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  47. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “Obviously aimed at the audience going to the Mime Troupe. It was illegal because it was covering the stop sign.”
    Not ‘obvious’ at all. The person posting that may not have even known anything about the mime troupe. It could have even been a false flag deal. Putting it over the stop sign was the problem. Tear it off and go about your business.
    Hey Paul – what happened to the ‘Putin Cuddler’ shtick you used to do?
    You really shouldn’t call other people chicken shits when you run from your own words.

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