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Sandbox – 29jun18

29 June 2018

[OK boys and girls, it's time for SCOTUS roulette. Make known your odds that one of your favorite candidates will get the presidential nod. gjr]

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253 responses to “Sandbox – 29jun18”

Don Bessee

03 July 2018

Now scenes, don’t go bringing in the historical facts that mess up the po’ ol’ putin party parrots narrative! Squawk! 😉

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Paul Emery

03 July 2018

scenes writes ” Of course they have an opinion who wins and pitch in a little money and intelligence on the down low”
So Scenes, you agree that the Russians interfered with our election with the intent of aiding Trump. Thanks for the verification. We agree on this one.
scenes writes ” Of course they have an opinion who wins and pitch in a little money and intelligence on the down low”

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Paul Emery

03 July 2018

So Don you have no problem with what Russia did because of what happened with Kennedy 30 years ago.

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scenes

03 July 2018

“So Scenes, you agree that the Russians interfered with our election with the intent of aiding Trump. ”
Dunno if they aided Trump in particular, so ‘no’. Russia is a complicated place and there’s a lot more to it than you’ll read on the half dozen op-ed websites you get your information from. There are different power groups there and their collective minds would change over time.
(Short version. There isn’t just some guy named ‘Putin’ moving a few chess pieces).
For sure they nudged the election a bit in random ways. Every country in the world does a little of that. The US does far more of it to others. I can’t say that Iran appreciated (or appreciates) it.
It’s laughable that you think you’ve made some point here. It’s like arguing with a high school student.

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Todd Juvinall

03 July 2018

The Russians had way less impact than Paul Emery had in electing Hillary Hodge. The left is obsessed. No facts lots of yapping.

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Don Bessee

03 July 2018

Even with the decline of educational outcomes in the US that is awfully tough on the high school kids there scenes!
It is still hilarious to watch the born again cold war hawk who called us war mongers when putin attacked tiny Georgia do his po’ ol’ party parrot schtick, squawk! Pathetic. 😉

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scenes

03 July 2018

I’m bored with the trivial Russian fooferaw.
Did anyone get a load of Ron Paul’s post? It got brought down, but all the folks that indulge in Paulhate keep bringing it up.
https://twitter.com/JemalYoung/status/1014272759168286720
oopsie. Supposedly done by a staffer, but that’s not going to matter. There’s plenty of Paulhate out there.

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Don Bessee

03 July 2018

Time for the truth; “We’ve been in a trade war for a long time, but we weren’t participating,”
To understand why the United States and China stand on the brink of a trade war, consider the near-death experience of American Superconductor Corp.
The company, known as AMSC and based in Massachusetts, was reeling after a Chinese partner stole its technology — the electronic brains that run wind turbines. The loss was devastating: AMSC’s stock shed $1 billion in value, and the company cut 700 jobs, more than half its workforce.
“Attempted corporate homicide” is what CEO Daniel McGahn called it. In January, its Chinese partner, Sinovel Wind Group, was convicted in a U.S. court of stealing AMSC’s trade secrets.
To the Trump administration, Sinovel’s predatory practices are hardly isolated. Beijing, it charges, is orchestrating a brass-knuckles campaign to supplant U.S. technological dominance and over the next few decades make Chinese companies global leaders in such fields as robotics and electric vehicles.
According to a report by the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, Beijing’s tactics include coercing American companies to hand over trade secrets in return for access to the Chinese market; forcing U.S. businesses to license technology in China on unfavorable terms; using state funds to buy up American technology; and sometimes outright theft.
Critics have long asserted that China runs roughshod over intellectual property rights. But President Donald Trump, who ran for the White House on a vow to force China to reform its trade policies, is the first U.S. leader to risk a trade war between the world’s two biggest economies.
“We’ve been in a trade war for a long time, but we weren’t participating,” said Richard Ellings, president of the National Bureau of Asian Research. “We’ve awakened. … This is a fundamental change. It’s a historic moment.”
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/sns-bc-us–us-china-tariffs-how-did-we-get-here-20180703-story.html
😉

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Paul Emery

03 July 2018

So Scenes, George you disagree with the Senate Intel conclusions that the Russians interfered with our election

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Don Bessee

03 July 2018

Shouldn’t there be a ‘yes or no?’ at the end of that @ 638 ya po’ ol’ putin party parrot? 😉

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Paul Emery

03 July 2018

How about you Don, do you agree or disagree with the conclusions of the Senate Intel Committtee on Russian interference in our elections in support of Trump?

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Todd Juvinall

03 July 2018

Paul Emery does not understand politics.

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Don Bessee

03 July 2018

One does not need to understand anything to be a po’ ol’ party parrot, squawk! 😉

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George Rebane

03 July 2018

PaulE 638pm – Did the Russians attempt to “interfere” with our election – yes, indeed. Did they actually interfere with our election – NO, not so that you could tell, not even close.
Anyone who claims otherwise should present their evidence, or shut their tatertrap.

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scenes

04 July 2018

“So Scenes, George you disagree with the Senate Intel conclusions that the Russians interfered with our election”
Yes and no. I never detected a strong pro-Trump angle, and I keep track of a lot of Russian media. Also, remember how much money (millions of dollars) went to the Clintons from Russian sources over the years.
Of course, it’s fairly laughable that a major point in those reports (you have read them, haven’t you?) involve state-subsidized Russian TV and ‘bias’ it might show. The difference between that and the BBC eludes me.
My short answer is that various forces in Russia had an interest in the outcome of the election towards both sides, it’s mostly a muddle of Russian TV reporting plus a few media buys and social network pushes, it didn’t amount to much and was a completely normal amount from a large power standpoint, and it was trivial compared to Israel, Mexico, and the Arab states.
That Senate report is merely a reference to a nothingburger that is simply an attempt to both beat the war drums and to continue a contested 2016 election.
It’s worth considering that you are playing into Russian hands. Maybe the real game the Russians are playing is to cause internal dissension in the US by encouraging questioning of the election results.
Do you think that’s true Paul? Yes or No? Are you a Russian agent?

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scenes

04 July 2018

One quick thing on the Russians.
The strongest (practically only, really) case to be made against them is hacking the DNC. I haven’t seen a bit of proof and don’t really trust the Obama-loyalist investigators, but it’s always possible that the allegation reflects some form of reality.
If true, it’s worth thinking about whether you consider them enemy combatants or as a form of vigilante whistleblower. Really, does it matter where your whistleblowers hail from?
Exposing the DNC as being in the election fixing business and something of a criminal enterprise really does have value. God knows what really went on in the Clinton campaign, it’s likely they’d all go to jail if it ever came out.
Funny thing. All that chicanery beaten by a guy with superb public speaking skills and the ability to manipulate MSM. The Lord works in mysterious ways.

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M

04 July 2018

,,,and the birther/denier continues to parrot Putin,,,nothing to see here, look over there!!!
“Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election! Where is the DNC Server, and why didn’t Shady James Comey and the now disgraced FBI agents take and closely examine it? Why isn’t Hillary/Russia being looked at? So many questions, so much corruption!” – trumpski

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Paul Emery

04 July 2018

Scenes writes
” I haven’t seen a bit of proof and don’t really trust the Obama-loyalist investigators”
So Scenes is the Republican majority Senate Intel Committee led by Obama-loyalist investigators?

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Todd Juvinall

04 July 2018

Paul; Emery please copy to here the part of the report by the Senate Committee you think backs up your derangement.

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Paul Emery

04 July 2018

Sure Todd
Here’s the link to the report. Here’s a direct quote from the report and a link.
https://www.burr.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SSCI%20ICA%20ASSESSMENT_FINALJULY3.pdf
“We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S . presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump,” the document reads.
thanks for your interest Todd.

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Ricky McVeigh

04 July 2018

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2016/09/10/how-to-destroy-america-from-within-n2216092%3famp=true

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Bill Tozer

04 July 2018

What a great day…for most. But, then again, there is always the glum lot.
“Liberals are never comfortable with displays of American patriotism, so Independence Day is particularly awkward for them. Everybody likes cold beer, hot dogs and fireworks, but the militarism and U.S. imperialism and corporate greed and … as Broadly assistant editor Leila Ettachfini declares, “America has always been bad, no matter who the president is or was.”
But if you are planning a party be sure to “look at your guest list” because “if it’s homogenous in race, gender, and/or sexuality” you should “question why.” Because nothing is more American than inviting someone because of their race to meet party quotas.
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/rachel-peterson/2018/07/02/america-has-always-been-bad-libs-celebrate-independence-day

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Todd Juvinall

04 July 2018

I think you have been snookered Paul Emery. If you look at the “report” there is no official header or a signature at the end by the Chairman. Methinks this is a ruse.

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Todd Juvinall

04 July 2018

The committee simply agreed with the intelligence Report from 2017 or was that 2016 (Obama’s guys) that there was “meddling But no proof of anything. So just a bunch of hooey.

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scenes

04 July 2018

“So Scenes is the Republican majority Senate Intel Committee led by Obama-loyalist investigators?”
You sure ask a lot of questions while answering few.
Assuming you actually have read any of this.
The moneyshot:
“The Committee finds that the Intelligence Community met President Obama’s tasking and that the ICA is a sound intelligence product. ”
They weren’t the investigators, they merely read someone else’s redacted report plus the odd bit of testimony.
A better question “So Scenes is the Republican majority Senate Intel Committee led by Obama-loyalist senators?”
I would say mostly, yes. But that’s a different issue. Obama and most of the Senate appear to share significantly common interests. The voters are nudging the politicians over time.
In the meantime, there’s been something of a grassroots takeover of the Republicans going on and I can’t say where it’s going to lead.
So, as to my question. Is it likely that the fuss about Russian collusion is itself a form of Russian disinformation? More properly, ‘дезинформа́ция’. That you, Paul, are doing the Russians dirty work in terms of sowing dissent within the country?
Yes or No? Why do you think that?
Honestly, I’m going to have to quit responding to you if you don’t ever provide the other side of an argument or conversation. I admit that doing the Russians work might be the perfect 4th of July activity for the crack KVMR news desk.

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scenes

04 July 2018

BillT: ““Liberals are never comfortable with displays of American patriotism, so Independence Day is particularly awkward for them.”
They’re pretty good at one thing. I’ll bet you a pack of smokes that during the parade (NC this year?),in a county that is roughly evenly split between both parties, the Democratic party float will receive a reasonable response and the Republican one will get booed. It’s hard to beat Team Blue for acting like an ass in public.

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Todd Juvinall

04 July 2018

Scenes 924
You are too smart. I never thought of that. The Paul Emery’s of America are actually doing the “meddling” for the Rooskies as they keep the fiction alive. That is coming to light. Putin and all his agents like Emery are sowing the discontent and making the country unsure. Good analysis man!

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Bill Tozer

04 July 2018

That homophobic racist Joy Reid is now attacking an innocent grandmother.
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2018/07/04/fake-news-joy-reid-wrongly-urges-twitter-mob-attack-grandma

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George Rebane

04 July 2018

re PaulE 858am – Even the mildly astute reader will note that Mr Emery has not and cannot present one shred of evidence that the Russians influenced anything to do with the 2016 election – the man simply can’t get past equating attempt with achievement. However, Mr scenes 924am does pose a cogent point as to how the nation’s progressives and socialists (including PaulE) have fallen in line to sow exactly what they claim are Putin’s seeds.

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Todd Juvinall

04 July 2018

GeorgeR 948 you said it best!

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“M”

04 July 2018

,,,where are our local grammar nazis???
,,,trumpski tweets: “After having written many best selling books, and somewhat priding myself on my ability to write, it should be noted that the Fake News constantly likes to pour over my tweets looking for a mistake. I capitalize certain words only for emphasis, not b/c they should be capitalized!”
Spelling errors may be another matter. He misspells “pore” in the tweet.
As JK Rowling says,,,hahahahahahahahaha

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“M”

04 July 2018

,,,trumpski twitter library opens in LA!!!
https://globalnews.ca/video/4264341/donald-trump-twitter-library-opens-in-los-angeles

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Todd Juvinall

04 July 2018

When lefty extremists get defeated in debate they always go to spell checking. No one cares “M”. We care about your moronic positions not your spelling.

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Walt

04 July 2018

Spelling you bitch about Capt Clueless? If that was the case, you should have been shot at Sunrise a LONG time ago. Good thing you still live in America.
See this poll? Plenty of Progressives took the call.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/236420/record-low-extremely-proud-americans.aspx

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fish

04 July 2018

Posted by: “M” | 04 July 2018 at 10:30 AM
dugski…..you should go hang out with the Hermann Göring of Nevada City if you are concerned about spelling errors (yes I know he was the head of the Luftwaffe but they are of similar geometry)!

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Ricky McVeigh

04 July 2018

https://rense.com/general62/destroy.htm

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Walt

04 July 2018

I give you the Proggy that wants to go head to head with Trump.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/04/avenatti-trump-2020/
And Stormy for Sec. of State? LOL!!!!

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fish

04 July 2018

Posted by: Walt | 04 July 2018 at 10:53 AM
This guy is as delusional as jeffy!

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Todd Juvinall

04 July 2018

Looks like the babe in NY14 is a silver spooner trying to convince the voters she is from a poor background. Sort of a Puerto Rican Pocahontas?

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Paul Emery

04 July 2018

George
I can’t believe you, being such a Cold Warrior, disregard in such a cavalier manner Russia’s meddling in our elections. Of course it’s not easy to assess the precise effects they had in the actual vote count, that’s a no brainier, but your lack of concern that they actually did this is really weird to me.

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Walt

04 July 2018

News update!
http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/04/judge-bundy-prosecutor-plea-conviction/
The “G”men got their collective butts handed to them.
“U.S. District Judge Gloria M. Navarro dismissed conspiracy charges against the four men on Jan. 8 after finding that prosecutors had acted “with prejudice” throughout the trial, The Oregonian reported. Federal prosecutors violated federal law and failed to share evidence favorable to the defendants case with the court.”
Now where have we heard of similar gov. prejudice?

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fish

04 July 2018

Posted by: Walt | 04 July 2018 at 11:11 AM
Yeah Walt…..this was how I won a bet with “jon” when “she” was still posting here! That the prosecution knew that getting a conviction was going to be difficult if even possible and that the charges would either just be dismissed outright or watered down so far that it would just be easier to cop to a misdemeanor and move on! It didn’t help LaVoy Finicum though!
LaVoy Finicum shooting: FBI agent indicted for alleged false statements
Shit like this never helps the Feds in subsequent prosecutions! You think they would learn after Weaver and Waco!
https://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2017/06/fbi_agent_indicted_accused_of.html

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fish

04 July 2018

Oops…..sorry…..confused my Bundy trials!

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Paul Emery

04 July 2018

Wow!!! 57% disapprove of the Republican led Congress Job approval. Astounding.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html

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fish

04 July 2018

Yeah…..no wonder why that cadre of idiots thought they could get any with it…….

FBI Taught Agents They Could ‘Bend or Suspend the Law.’

https://www.wired.com/2012/03/fbi-bend-suspend-law/

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Paul Emery

04 July 2018

That’s 72% negative Congressional polls. 52% difference.

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fish

04 July 2018

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 04 July 2018 at 10:57 AM
Looks like the babe in NY14 is a silver spooner trying to convince the voters she is from a poor background. Sort of a Puerto Rican Pocahontas?
Todd…..buddy……the bit really only works if you get the name right….both you and the president need to figure this out…..it’s “Fauxcohontas”…..Fauxcohontas! Faux….as in fake or phoney! Coined originally by Mark Steyn I believe when the whitest woman in North America was trying to filch Affirmative Action points she clearly didn’t deserve!

faux
fō/Submit
adjective
made in imitation; artificial.
“a string of faux pearls”
not genuine; fake or false.
“their faux concern for the well-being of the voters didn’t fool many”

Otherwise you guys are just comparing “She Guevara” and Elizabeth Warren to a minor historical figure! Which makes no sense whatsoever!

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Todd Juvinall

04 July 2018

OK FISH. LOL!
Paul Emery, please list the things the Rooskies did to undermine and meddle in our election. I am waiting. Then maybe you can convince me and others with your veracity. Please bullet point each one so I don’t get confused. Thanks.

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Todd Juvinall

04 July 2018

Congressional disapprovals have been in the tank for 242 years. Read Davy Crockett’s book and even he, as a member of Congress had the same opinion.

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Walt

04 July 2018

Paul. I see your Proggy friends dislike a good economy, less taxation, more freedoms, less restricting laws. It sure must suck not being told what to do.
I still haven’t heard of any round up of Proggys for re-education in isolated camps.
When you poll only LIBS,,, you get LIB results.
Now go attend your friends flag burning.

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