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[Here's the next batch of fresh sand.  I find it interesting how the intersection of what interests me and RR's commenters goes up and down.  It appears that the interests of our most voluble readers pretty much track the news cycle, often leaving unattended more fundamental and systemic events/trends that impact our lives and country.  Because I have always walked a path less tread, for me this variance is noteworthy but not a consternation, since RR has always been a record of my observations and interpretations from the last great century of Man.  In sum, I think of my weblog as a letter to my family and the future which, of course, includes the contents of its comment streams.  gjr]

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370 responses to “Sandbox – 25jun18”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    8:07 am
    Pretty much sums it up. The new catchy phrase is ICE MELT.
    Yep, we charge 2% tariffs on their cars, they charge 10% (or greater) traffis on our cars, but we are the bad guys. Must not go there, I reckon.
    Elimate borders. It’s so draconian.
    Free stuff? Well, only wound to tomb. They haven’t quite tackled out who is going to pay for the all burials….yet. Probably the usual suspect that will pay for free healthcare, guaranteed jobs, and guaranteed outcomes for all. Best to start designing government crematoriums that are eco-friendly. Ashes to ashes.

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  2. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: GeorgeR@8:39AM
    I figure that PaulE, at last as presented here, is no smarter than he has to be. His posts are at about the level of a chatbot from a couple of decades ago, but he serves the purpose of getting the people at the rest of the bar stools to wax philosophical.
    There is some value to that.
    For those following the Supreme Court, I present the dissenting opinion:
    https://i.redd.it/1drc0h2rbq611.jpg

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  3. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Gotta love the interwebs. H/T to 4chan.
    Live in Portland!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tENW9dThHME

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  4. M Avatar
    M

    ,,,Circle of jerks goes ‘round and ‘round;
    ‘Round and ‘round, ‘round and ‘round;
    Circle of jerks goes’round and ‘round, early in the morning,,,
    ,,,right wing wacky doodles are going postal on Red Hen restaurants!!!
    ,,,dimwitted Trumpist housewives are going postal on ‘’’foreign looking’’’ people driving by or working in the neighborhoods
    ,,,trumpski lies and the likes of the Toddminded lap it up and ask,,,may I have some more please???

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    What the Dems have been saying is a different issue than Trumps lying. Your question to me is vague and unclear. What dos it mean whe you ask ” Or does it mean to you that all of that going down is inconsequential to the Dems’ fortunes in November?” I have to as what “All that’s going down do you refer to? Can you be specific and I’ll answer.

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Lol on Sotomayor’s ICE meltdown.
    The SCOTUS travel ban decision was the correct one. The Court has no expertise or mandate or authority in regards to setting national security or a host of other issues that are under the the jurisdiction of the Legislative Branch or the Executive Branch, Do you want the court to set fiscal, economic, defense policy, or diplomatic policy?? Hmmm. If so, why have a Congress or even vote for a President?
    From WSJ, behind the paywall, for the interested readers.
    “Finally, the justices took the opportunity to overrule Korematsu v. U.S. (1944), which had permitted President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II. Mr. Trump’s order has often been compared to that shameful episode. But FDR imprisoned American citizens without due process and for no reason other than their ethnic heritage. Mr. Trump’s order applies only to aliens outside the U.S., who have no constitutional right to enter the country.
    The four liberal justices dissented, concluding that Mr. Trump’s statements about Muslims were sufficient to constitute an impermissible religious bias that should invalidate the order, as if it were a domestic Establishment Clause case. Justice Sonia Sotomayor, joined by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, also brushed aside the court’s precedents deferring to the president’s judgment on international affairs and foreign policy. The Sotomayor dissent disputed Mr. Trump’s policy conclusions about the dangers of inadequate vetting, citing the views of various “national-security officials” from previous administrations. The dissenting justices’ reliance on the views of former officials is a radical departure from constitutional norms.
    Justice Clarence Thomas raised an important point in his concurring opinion. He challenged the growing trend in which individual district court judges—whose jurisdiction extends only to a single state or part of a state—issue “universal” injunctions that purport to apply nationwide. He questioned the constitutionality of this practice and indicated that if it continues, the court will have to stop it.
    In upholding Mr. Trump’s order, the Supreme Court has reaffirmed the basic principle that judges must stay their hands when evaluating the discretionary decisions of the president or Congress in areas the Constitution reserves to the political branches.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-rule-of-law-prevails-in-the-travel-ban-case-1530139894

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    On the Ca pregnancy centers, SCOTUS again made the correct decision. Kennedy specifically went out of his way to slam California and their “forward” Socialist Statist Frisco thinking. 😉
    Kennedy warned that the FACT Act “is a paradigmatic example of the serious threat presented when government seeks to impose its own message in the place of individual speech, thought, and expression.” And Kennedy strongly rebuked what he described as the California legislature’s “congratulatory statement” that the FACT Act “was part of California’s legacy of ‘forward thinking.’” It “is not forward thinking to force individuals to be an instrument for fostering public adherence to an ideological point of view they find unacceptable.” Rather, Kennedy stressed, it “is forward thinking to begin by reading the First Amendment as ratified in 1791; to understand the history of authoritarian government as the Founders then knew it; to confirm that history since then shows how relentless authoritarian regimes are in their attempts to stifle free speech; and to carry those lessons onward as we seek to preserve and teach the necessity of freedom of speech for generations to come.” Right on!!!
    Clarence Thomas is writing beautiful decisions lately.
    Thomas and the majority reached a similar conclusion for the unlicensed centers. First, the majority observed, the only justification that California has cited for the law was “purely hypothetical”:…….And even if the state had advanced a concrete justification for the notice requirement, Thomas continued, the requirement still places too much of a burden on the unlicensed centers’ speech. Thomas noted that, as the state had agreed at the oral argument in March, a billboard for an unlicensed center bearing the message “Choose Life” would also have to include a 29-word notice “in as many as 13 different languages.” “In this way,” Thomas suggested, “the unlicensed notice drowns out the facility’s own message,” making it unlikely that an unlicensed center would even try to have “such a billboard in the first place.”
    http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/06/opinion-analysis-divided-court-rules-for-anti-abortion-pregnancy-centers-in-challenge-to-california-law/

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: M | 28 June 2018 at 08:54 AM
    Oh dugski the feculant…..whatever you’re taking ….time to up the dose!

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 905am – I was referring to your ignoring all the citations of the crap that the leftwing thugs have been putting out under the lamestream sanitized name of “incivility” in recent weeks which were cited over and over again by other commenters. And your response was to just keep repeating allegations of Trump’s “lies”, as if they were somehow relevant to the discussion, or somehow equivalent to people being kicked out of restaurants, demonstrations in front of private houses, federal facilities being shut down, and leftwing lunatic politicians calling for wholesale denial of public access to anyone of the Right; that along with loud threats to next block major transportation arteries. The Left has always resorted to incivility, and continue to do so when they cannot promote their agenda in normative ways. Daniel Henninger has a good piece on it here –
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/teeing-off-on-trump-1530140634
    I hope that you’re clear now on my 839am.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, I guess the Week of Liberal Bible Thumping has passed. It was very inspiring.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1350750331725667/?type=3&theater
    Love trumps hate. Yawn.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1081994481950773/?type=3&theater
    Nothing warms the cockles of me weary heart like the sound of liberals crying in the morning. Haven’t heard such wailing and gnashing of teeth since that sunny morning on the first Wednesday in November, 2016.
    The End is Nigh!….Here we go again with the stages of grief. Deja Vu all over again.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/mattiek17/status/1012050245042176000

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    A suggestion for our forward thinking California. House illegals on campuses and open your own doors.
    What better first glimpse of America could be offered to immigrants than the energy, pastoral beauty, and hospitality of a quiet college quad or well-maintained residence hall?
    It also makes no sense for college students to venture far and wide for internships when they could be enlisted on campus over the summer to tutor children from Central America and monitor their safety and treatment.
    If progressives believe that sovereignty and border enforcement are passé notions, then they should at least match their rhetoric with concrete solutions. In California, there are ongoing existential crises with homelessness, unaffordable housing, and dismal public schools that rate near bottom of national surveys.
    How could California square its present circle of being both the most impoverished and the most affluent of states — the most callous in fact, the most caring in theory?
    Why not cease the current stampede to private academies that has left the public schools of the greater coastal corridor non-diverse and near apartheid?
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/immigration-debate-progressives-should-back-up-their-rhetoric/

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  12. rl crabb Avatar

    GR 9:58AM – Complaints about incivility to the king of trash talk and the minions who excuse it is laughable. As one wag on Facebook put it, “They didn’t have to throw Huckabee out of the restaurant. They could have just grabbed her by the pussy.”

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  13. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    Just because I entered a discussion about our liar in Cheif does not mean I am responsible to respond to every request about alleged bad behavior on the other side. With that in mind let me state that if the so called left wing thugs have broken the law those laws should be enforced. Are you proposing that new laws need to be passed to stop this behavior? Remember the Civil Rights Movement was largely fueled by civil disobedience. Do you think that was inappropriate behavior?

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1021am – You really are the posterchild of non-response, and here you did it again. You didn’t “enter a discussion about our liar in Chief”, you responded with it to avoid the topic threads already engaged. And I have made no proposals for new laws; have only pointed out the continuing Left/Right asymmetry as part and parcel of the Great Divide.
    rlcrabb 1020am – “king of trash talk”?? You have me at a disadvantage here.

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane: Ah, Punchy is just a single issue guy. Or single issues. Trump lied, pot. and no IRS audits of those playing music in bars for cash. trying to make a better life for them and their families. ).
    The single issue Punchy which plays his the endless audio loop. is “Trumpft is a liar! He said Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the nation and it does not!!!!!!! Trump lied!!” Has absolutely nothing to do with anything else making the 24/7 news cycle., duh.
    Hey, let Punchy do his single issue stuff. Clinton (and his defenders) called it compartmentalization. That’s all it is. Meanwhile, while Punchy is focusing on Trumpfts lies and Trump is a Liar, there is a bigger picture going on. Let Punchy remark on a tree while the forest is ablaze.
    “The left, to the point of irrationality, despises a triumphant Trumpian right and believes that to equate it with fascists is not only legitimate, but a sign that the accusers are the real moral, righteous and courageous dissenters in these terrible times.
    In 1968, mobs cursed Lyndon Johnson, who had passed all the civil rights laws, howling, “Hey, hey, LBJ: How many kids did you kill today!”
    After Dr. King’s assassination, a hundred cities, including the capital, were looted and burned. Scores died. U.S. troops and the National Guard were called out to restore order. Soldiers returning from Vietnam were spat upon. Cops were gunned down by urban terrorists. Bombings and bomb attempts were everyday occurrences. Campuses were closed down. In May 1971, tens of thousands of radicals went on a rampage to shut down D.C.
    A cautionary note to progressives: Extremism is how the left lost the future to Nixon and Reagan.
    Ah, timing is everything. New RNC ad.
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/56828-video-the-unhinged-left-in-2018
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1351423948324972/?type=3&theater

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  16. L Avatar
    L

    re: pe’s 7:02 rant, read the final alleged lie carefully and decide who’s the real liar in that report. Either that or he’s impossibly dense. L

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “George
    Just because I entered a discussion about our liar in Cheif….”
    ROFLMAO. Dr. Rebane nailed it. You didn’t enter a discussion, you injected “liar in Chief” into the group discussion of the day’s actiions committed by unhinged Lefties that continue to this hour to shock the conscious.
    It’s all good, Punchy. The Sandbox is where one inject a new topic one feels passionately about. Trump is a liar, Trump is a lilac, second verse same as the first.
    One of the tell-tell signs of addiction is relapse. Same goes for BDS and TDS.

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  18. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Every time I read a ditty from Crabb about uncivility (usually by the right) I crack up and laugh my ass off. The guy trashes people for a living. What he fails to “own” is sometimes his loony pals act it out. Yet not a word about Maxine, the Antifa or any other lefty crying out for violence. What a friggin hypocrite. He is as funny now as Kimmel or Noah. Which is he isn’t.

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    See you all Saturday at the intersection to rally about immigration!

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  20. '''M''' Avatar
    ”’M”’

    Thanks Todd, I will bring tomatoes!!!

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  21. '''M''' Avatar
    ”’M”’

    Will that be Pennkucky Blvd. at E Coli Lake St.???

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    What really interests me yesterday, today, and tomorrow is the DOJ-FBI’s refusual to turn over certain documents to Congressional Oversight. The looming Constitutional Showdown.
    Yes, the FBI-DOJ should not name names of those not under indictment nor should Congress interfere with an ongoiing criminal or counterintelligence investigation…..unless….unless there is “strong evidence of a crime.” Last paraphraph (sentence) of the DOJ’s policy and procedures on such matters in dealing with Congress.
    Teaser: I will look for the doc, might take a day or two. “Unless strong evidence of a crime.” is the operative phrase here.
    Memo and policy goes back to the days of AG William French Smith. Rosenstein can stall, but he may be on shaky ground.
    “Law enforcement officers and prosecutors may never select the timing of investigative steps or criminal charges for the purpose of affecting any election, or for the purpose of giving an advantage or disadvantage to any candidate or political party.”
    Strong evidence of a crime can overcome this policy, as was the case with the bureau’s investigation into…..blah, blah, blah.
    http://davidbrivkin.com/muellers-fruit-of-the-poisonous-tree/
    [Only words in this link I care about is “strong evidence of a crime”. That overrides the Rosenstein’s claim of withholding docs. Has nothing to do with the Meuller investigation.

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Active shooter at Maryland newspaper

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  24. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    The “list of lies” Punchy shared at 7:02 are classic, with many better classified as off the cuff hyperbole (like the Time Magazine cover claim) or differences in opinion or the claim of disrespect on a call to a military widow by a flamboyant Congresscritter whose account was disputed by someone who was listening to Trump making the call.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/19/john-kelly-frederica-wilson-trump-243956
    A classic: ‘Oct. 16 “I hear that Ireland is going to be reducing their corporate rates down to 8 percent from 12.” (Ireland has no plans to cut its tax rate.)’
    Note the sleight of hand by the ‘fact checker’… even if one assumes the claim Ireland had no plan to cut its corporate tax rate is true (who in Ireland can say definitively?) says nothing about Trump’s claim he’d heard they were.
    Trump does play fast and loose with facts, bending them at will, like many salesman. But somebody please point to any in the list Punch shared with us that compare to the claim Obamacare would average a $2500 savings, or that if you liked your doctor you could keep your doctor, if you liked your plan you could keep your plan. These were baldfaced LIES made to sell a restructuring of healthcare in this country to a Gruberized public.
    Trump at worst is a used car salesman, a real estate trader. Obama and Clinton (either of them) are arguably worse. In any case, Trump is the president now, get used to it. If you keep this up, you’ll have him in office through 2024.

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Ya sure China is ready to have a trade war with its biggest customer –
    This has made a lot of people nervous, including those at China’s National Institution for Finance and Development (NIFD), a Chinese government-backed think tank.
    In a study leaked on the internet earlier this week, and which has subsequently been removed, the group warned that “financial panic” is likely to escalate in the period ahead.
    “We think China is currently very likely to see a financial panic,” the NIFD study said.
    The group warned of bond defaults and liquidity shortages, and suggested the recent rout in Chinese financial markets posed dangers to the economy during a period of heightened trade tensions and rising US interest rates.
    It also singled out the use of leverage by Chinese stock investors, warning that at around five trillion yuan, it has again reached the levels seen in 2015 just before the Chinese stock market plunged in 2015.
    “We failed to clean up the leveraged funds after the 2015 market rout; they have staged a comeback in a new guise,” the NIFD said.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/a-chinese-group-has-warned-of-a-looming-financial-panic-2018-6
    Geezz, no wonder they pulled down of the internet. 😉

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  26. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    donb@12:02PM re: Zuckerberg
    It probably is time for him to leave. It’s fairly rare that founders get to stick around, they rarely have the ability to run large companies and bring too much in the way of crazy personal opinion to the table. It isn’t like the guy has serious technical chops or any real vision. It’s a trivial user interface stuck on top of a data base, the genius is in being to extract interesting information from the thing and to handle millions of users simultaneously.
    Dunno how easy it’ll be to kick him out if he still owns 1/4 of the company, it depends on how concentrated the other shares are.
    You have to admit it would be nice to have a website like this, basically a form of online slot machine in terms of addiction, be politically agnostic. The likelihood of antitrust action is basically nil, which probably makes sense in this case.

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  27. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    ToddJ@12:16 “See you all Saturday at the intersection to rally about immigration!”
    Is that different than this?
    https://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/candlelight-vigil-for-families-separated-at-border-to-be-held-thursday-in-nevada-city-2/
    I just love this kind of thing. Obama-era? No problemo. Trump? Screeeeeecch!!!!!!
    The Whiteopia speaks out about stuff they know scarcely anything about. Immigration law? Reality on the ground? Conditions in detention facilities? History of this kind of thing? Human trafficking?
    It don’t matter, just get out there with your sign and do the harridan dance. Everyone feels virtuous and goes home satisfied.

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    re M 1228pm – Now there they go again. Why would you bring tomatoes to such a demonstration?

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    M see you there. I’ll bring the bacon and lettuce and bread. It is at Freedom Blvd at Constitution Street!

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  30. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    That’s what you get for going on cnn –
    The co-chair of Women for Trump said she received death threats after a recent CNN appearance and expressed her concern over people lashing out at Trump supporters and conservative women.
    “I’ve gone on CNN for years. Last week, the hate was ratcheted up to a level I have not seen before,” said Amy Kremer on “Fox & Friends.”
    After the segment, she tweeted about the threats and received a response from CNN’s April Ryan, a member of the White House Press Corps, who called her a liar and a “hater.”
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/06/28/co-chair-women-trump-receives-death-threats-after-cnn-appearance
    😉

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  31. rl crabb Avatar

    Hey Toddy. I save my trashing for trashers. You’ve been polluting the blogosphere at least as long as me. Admit it, you love to insult people.

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    No Crabb that is your gig. and you even trashed me a few times. You are just a sourpuss old white cracker with time on his hands. Try something different so GOD might consider you for entry. Try to be nice for once. or twice or thrice. Your pollution of the local paper is just sad.

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  33. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    They are going to take away his team lefty card for telling this truth!
    Prominent Democratic pollster Mark Penn said on Thursday that a vast majority of Americans don’t really support so-called sanctuary cities that shield immigrants in the country illegally from deportation.
    Penn, who served as chief strategist for Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign, revealed that 84 percent of Americans favor turning undocumented immigrants over to federal agents.
    http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/394624-mark-penn-84-percent-support-turning-undocumented-immigrants-over-authorities
    😉

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  34. rl crabb Avatar

    Todd 3:23PM – Right! Is there a day that goes by that you aren’t calling someone stupid or worse on The Union opinion comments? If you had an ounce of talent you could do your trashing in cartoons. I’ll sell you a book that teaches you how.

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  35. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    rl crabb | 28 June 2018 at 04:00 PM
    I leave the trashing to you RL Crabby. You are a expert. I am just a humble home builder.

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    I
    entered a discussion meant I started a discussion. I entered it into the sandbox. Sorry that’s so difficult to understand.

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  37. Walt Avatar

    LIB court logic.
    “Gun rights groups argued the law should be overturned because it was impossible to comply with, as the technology does not exist. The court ruled the law could not be overturned simply because it was impossible to comply with.”
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/28/california-supreme-court-bullet-stamping-law/
    Well HELL!!! Mandate cold fusion. All power must come from cold fusion by 2020.

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Talk about bitchy. Its getting worse, you better get the salve quick! @443 😉

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  39. Walt Avatar

    Been hearing how the proggys are reacting to a new SCOTUS pick.
    “everything will be overturned!!!”
    You clowns forgot one. ‘Slavery will be reinstated”.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “’ll sell you a book that teaches you how.”
    Another truism: if you want to hide something from a Lefty, put it in a book. 🙂
    Tomorrow’s Headlines today
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/1352002484933785/?type=3&theater

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  41. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    BillT so true. And have you ever noticed that the sensitive libs never tell their own ilk to tone it down. Which in itself is a bias. But I get a kick out of kicking their asses and I simply do it by calling them a liberal!

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  42. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 443pm – Indeed you did, and you always do. When a discussion is ongoing in which you are being asked to respond, then “entering” or starting a new discussion is your guise for avoiding the sought for response – others call it changing the subject. That’s what we’ve been talking about for years. Capice?

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So George what you are saying is that I cannot start a new discussion without responding to an old discussion. Do you place that same criteria on others contributing to your blog ?

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  44. M Avatar
    M

    ,,,you one funny guy Todd,,,you stake out The Union comment section like a hungry spider,,,you show up on the article about wacky doodle tweakers on the ridge waving their confederate flag around,,,under the category of ‘’’ANGRY’’’!!!!

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  45. Walt Avatar

    AHHhhh Take a hike Paul, you never answer shit. You make a point NOT to. Oh.Wait.. You DID answer one….. Sorta…. A cut and paste job that someone with plenty of worthless time on their hands scabbed together. (but that’s not an answer) Can’t come up with anything on your own? Can’t put any words together of your own? ( You might be held accountable for those words…) So that how a LIB-terian gets by.. Got it.

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  46. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 510pm – No restrictions Paul, just do what you will.

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