[Well, let's really focus on what happened in Alabama, and how the Impeach Trump Initiative (ITI) will now proceed apace in Dem circles and in their coordinated lamestream. 2018 will be a mid-term election to remember. gjr]
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244 responses to “Sandbox – 13dec17”
8dec17Sandbox,,,@Piper Laurie’s Former Shrink,,,Yes Doc,,,’’’Bannonism and Trumpism will end up on the ash heap of history’’’.
Piper Laurie must have been an interesting case,,,I can see why she would need help after being ‘’’sexually initiated’’’ by Ronald Reagan,,,traumatic indeed!!!
The Roy Moore defeat is emblematic of the wackadoodlism ideologies of birthers,,,deniers,,,baggers,,,minutemen,,,Arpiao lovers,,,evangelical RightToLifers and WestboroChurchers,,,and other redneck cracker fringe thinkers.
Our White Trash President needs to spend some more time on his gold plated throne in his gilded penthouse outhouse and ponder his boorish attitudinal leanings…
http://www.businessinsider.com/roy-moore-screw-you-and-horse-alabama-2017-12
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What happened in Alabama? What’s there to ask beyond the obvious?
A Republican pedophile got fired in one of America’s hotbeds of uneducated, racist, and homophobic voters. The heart of Trump country. If it can happen in ‘bama, it can happen anywhere and Republicans are crapping their pants over it. I loved Trump’s tweet, “I knew he wouldn’t win.” What a child. Reminds me of a local tool who got ousted after a single term as a county sup, then ran for assembly because, as he said, “I am very popular.” Apparently not popular with people who vote – note even among Republicans! What a stooge!!
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Before Alabama sucks all the oxygen out of the room, I will stray off the thread and talk about hybrid cars and the gas tax.
[If you own an older vehicle that is fueled by gas, you’re paying gas tax to maintain the roads. Someone who has an electric vehicle or a dramatically more fuel efficient vehicle is paying much less than you are. But they are still using the roads,” Wiener said.
“People are going to use less and less gas in the long run,” according to Wiener.
And less gas means less gas tax, and less money for road repair.]
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/12/11/california-considers-mileage-tax/
Seems to me that taxing electric cars at the charging pump could be circumvented by drivers simply charging up at home or at work or at play (at a friend’s house or carry a small portable generator). Love the pics on the net of an all electric car on the side of the road hooked up to a portable generator. Add a small generator to the flares, orange triangles, and other stuff in the emergency road kit.
Seems to me that if the last gas hikes were for maintaining roads, then all would be ok. But, monies are earmarked and siphoned off for building thousands of low income housing units, covering the shortage in projected carbon tax revenue, and dishing out gas tax money to pay the immediate hole in unfounded liabilities. Gotta keep those checks coming to our retired and current public servants. Opps, I forgot the 80 billion hole for the bullet train which will be so expensive for commuters that only business class can afford to ride the train regularly.
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I heard about a “mileage tax” to compensate for electric cars. Not sure how that would be implemented.
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You will sign a form under penalty of perjury to verify your mileage.
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One thing that’s obvious from the Virginia and Alabama results is that Trump has motivated people who were indifferent to election outcomes or voted third party to rise up against him. This is not a good trend for Republicans.
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Todd- VMT taxes are most commonly tied to on-board GPS or smart phones logging into a small milage recorder and transmitter. VMT tax rates can change with time of use, and county by county. If, theoretically, I was to live in Truckee but 80% of my miles were driven in Nevada, the GPS or cell phone would eliminate California taxation. VMT taxes are used in many countries and have been explored in Oregon using volunteers. Not sure where you came up with signing some “form under penalty of perjury.” Probably just another off the top of your head lie.
It appears Trump is a powerful get-out-the-vote engine for non-Republicans. 20% of voting in Alabama was done by first time voters sickened by the Republican regime. Bannon and Trump campaigning was only icing on the cake for Dem recruiters.
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‘Free markets don’t work, look at all its faults.’ claims the Left. Well, RR has always tried to explain to these folks that we don’t really have free markets any more, they are all tightly controlled. And where some more such freedoms are detected, government jumps in with more regulated restrictions. Here’s a recent example in which insurance companies can neither determine insurance risk nor charge appropriate premiums to riskier customers. Government is removing insurance companies ability to use the discriminants of education and occupation to set premiums. This removes a critical Bayesian decision process that will now make the company’s entire customer base pay for the added costs of payouts to riskier cohorts of insurance buyers. More here –
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-car-insurers-cant-ask-you-when-setting-your-rates-1513170000
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Well the democrats learned from the fiasco of Obama, didn’t they? Obama presided over historic wipeouts og his party at all levels down to dog catcher. I give them credit for the new strategy f sexual harassment. But it will backfire as Moore is a outlier and most demcats are not.
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No problem Todd with Moore being an outlier. Our President will carry the torch for pussy grabbers and keep the flame alive.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 December 2017 at 11:36 AM
Geez what a eunuch!
It’s OK Paul…..no need to be afraid of girls…..!
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Posted by: jon smith | 13 December 2017 at 09:23 AM
It’s going to be fun reading the after action report from Bammy……how many resources were thrown at this race to seat a guy who will likely work much better with the conservatives….such as they are!
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The hysteria of the democrats about Alabama cracks me up. A blue guy in a red state? I recall When a Mr. Brown took the Massachusetts Senate in a special election. That state has not one R in the federal system. Anyway, the left pooh-poohed his victory and of course the next “general election” put a D back. Elizabeth Warrewn. Same thing happened in Hawaii. Same results. But no hysteria by the press. I wonder why?
Hey Paul Emery, you “pussy grabber” Bill Clinton is revered and loved by your ilk. Explain that for us, please?
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Better make your drive to Nevada to get your ammo NOW.
It will be criminal come next year to buy cheaper ammo across state lines. But weed? No problem. Only a Progressive thinks those are good ideas.
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Posted by: Walt | 13 December 2017 at 12:08 PM
California just created their newest black market! You think they would have learned after all those smoke shops popped up just over the state line when they started taxing the shit out of cigarettes…..but no!
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My rebuttal to an Other Voices that erred last week in calling me out:
https://www.theunion.com/opinion/letters/greg-goodknight-more-on-climate-change/
By the wackadoodle at 922, that makes me a redneck cracker. But I ain’t.
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Walt- Nevada doesn’t share information with California. Come January I’m going to buy a few bricks (not weed) from Cabela’s in Verdi and let the cops figure out which state my ammo came from. This is a useless, toothless law. Knowing you put one over on Sacramento It will only make it all the more fun to shoot bootleg ammo.
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Posted by: Gregory | 13 December 2017 at 12:22 PM
Yes….the man of a thousand personalities posts boldly from his fortified compound! I thought he’d be busy as Santa this month!
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“that makes me a redneck cracker. But I ain’t”
Sure, Gregory, sure. Tell that to your Westbrook Baptist Church buddies. Skunk smells his own first. ;). If that makes you an inbred redneck that likes to keep it in the family and roll your own, then this link makes me…I dunno, some kind of guy walking around with a horse whip, wearing his favorite wife beater tee shirt out hunting down gays and people that look different than me…..darkies and albinos! We got got branded by the 922 (previous Sandbox).
Actually, there is a lot of truth in this the meme if one looks at the first and second wave of feminism and compares it to the third and now quasi “new” fourth wave….over the longer term. On the shorter team, you can substitute the word ‘Femimism’ with acronym ‘TDS’.
Anyway, brand away. Misogynist for starters will work. Whatever I am, I am sure it is in the all encompassing term of endearment; the basket of Deplorables.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1218465094954192/?type=3&theater
I don’t know about the rest of ya, but I am growing tired of all this sex and sexual perversion talk. Hey, they say men think about sex every 7 or 9 seconds all day long anyway, so why add more to the mix? Silly me, wasted words. Pussy grabbing is back and Russia Derangement Syndrome is in full swing for the near term and long term.
Why not just combine pussy grabbing with the Russians and call it…I dunno…Pussy Riot or something.
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re: Jon Smith @ 9:23AM
“What happened in Alabama? What’s there to ask beyond the obvious?”
Basically fairly close race with a poor (R) candidate. The interesting story here is not so much any kind of referendum on Trumpism (whatever that is) but the movement in the West from politics based on economics to politics based on ethnicity. Look at the demographics of the vote and your question is answered. Once the sides are formed up and of fairly equal strength, expect the civil unrest to crank up to the extent it always does in these cases.
re: Electric car taxes. My bet is that the politically well-connected smog bidness will find some way to stay alive. You’ll probably find yourself going in every two years to check your tire pressure and miles driven. The obvious next step is safety inspections by those garages.
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The 85th record close for the 24k DOW since election day! 24,585 25k AND tax cuts for Christmas? 😉
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The stock market report is just great Don… what is going to happen when it corrects for reality… like the housing mortgage market? Of course it is going up.. with the EPA, Dept. Of Interior, and other governmental functions being depleted an/or eliminated the corporations are going to reap a windfall.. until the shit hits the fan.. like it did in Alabama.. The people obviously are getting tired of the grifters.. the trick will be when to sell. Keep in mind the Dow only represents 30 companies of the thousands of stocks available. Not all are doing as well as those 30.
In other news from the “no nepotism here” dept… it seems that Trump’s “not qualified” nominee for a judicial post is the husband of the chief of staff for the White House Counsel. The not qualified nominee has since withdrawn his nomination. Do the Kushners and Donnie Jr. get paid or are they just cashing in on their “access” to the President?
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Posted by: Robert Cross | 13 December 2017 at 01:15 PM
In other news from the “no nepotism here” dept… it seems that Trump’s “not qualified” nominee for a judicial post is the husband of the chief of staff for the White House Counsel. The not qualified nominee has since withdrawn his nomination.
Wow…..with chutzpa like that you would think it was a democrat doing the nominating!
….thanks bobby!
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SAP 1:02- You might be correct, except this happened in Alabama where Republicans have only had to run against each other in the primaries and whomever won the primary was a shoe in for office because Dems were irrelevant. Jones did not win because he was a strong candidate, Moore lost because he, Trump, and Bannon were able to piss of enough Dems of all colors that they got off their lazy asses and voted in numbers for once. I say lazy because Alabaman’s both black and white have perfected laziness to an art form.
That’s fantastic news Bozo @ 1:04. The Dow has tripled in value over the past 8 years and you can only look back to election day? How about Bitcoin? Is Trump going to take credit for the rise in value of a currency largely bought as a hedge against the inevitable correction of traditional markets? BTW, how ’bout your prediction that you could buffalo the local MJ market? Even Scofield has thrown in the towel and NCCC is considering tripling the number of MJ companies in town.
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The cross one makes stating the obvious sound like a new found discovery. Selling at the right time and looking for dividends are basics of investing. DUH! The jobs rates and the DOW are reflective of regulation rollback and the newfound optimisms impact on expansion and investments by the corporations that populate our 401k’s. Before the cross one screams its 0’s efforts, just go back and check the optimism and future growth plans of businesses in Oct 2016. Bobbie must be cross because he sold off on Nov 9th 2016 like someone else we know. 😉
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Scott Browne in Massachusetts and that Hawaii special are the same as the Alabama vote. Just a small interlude for the other side.
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The left conveniently forgets Quantitative Easying. Where trillions of dollars were printed and used to buy bonds freeing up money to put into the stock market. All phony. But it was a Obama policy so who cares.
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Bitcoin = tulip bulb bubble. 😉
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J.Smith. You can bet the state is training ammo sniffing dogs as we speak. The bug stations will just add one more thing to look for.
You can bet your Dem. ass the cops WILL be looking for that ammo, and you better have a receipt for any ammo in that car coming from Nev. (or Or.,,OR Az.)
The more people the state can make criminals out of they will.
Funny how CH.3 in Sac. still has the magazine ban in effect (anything over 10) Someone needs to inform THE NEWS that that law was struck down.
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re: Jon Smith@1:42PM
I suspect that the voter turnout was high only for a special election and was roughly what a Presidential year would bring out. It’s pretty likely that it’ll be (D) seat for only the next two years but you never know.
What was most interesting is that it was a pure play in the election of the future. 100% opposition research in terms of a candidates words and deeds (whether true or not) in terms of treatment of people who are not white males..who themselves voted 75% for Moore. A truly crummy candidate, but they are going to vote for Their Guy. There’s a certain logic to this since nearly all governing is carried out by bureaucrats and a sprinkling of capricious judges, the candidates themselves are merely a reflection of group membership rather than conduits for public policy.
As identity politics becomes more the order of the day, and the factions become more nearly equal in power, you can expect increasing pressure on the system over time. The US may not evolve into a larger Yugoslavia, but it sure can rhyme.
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For your reading pleasure: Trump continues to drop in consensus polls.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
Last nights Alabama Senate vote reflects the effects of historic negative polling Trump and shows that support from him is a negative factor. this is the third major election that Trumps guy has lost. First Gillespie in Virginia then Luther Strange in the Alabama Primary and yesterday Roy Moore.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 December 2017 at 03:25 PM
….still your president Punch!
PS: Did you see any icky, gross girls today?
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I have another take on Alabama.
First, before my take, I feel compelled to say I have deep relief that Alabama (the entire state, its name, and all its residents) was spared the wrath and derision of 24/7 carpet bombing from the Industrial Media-Entertainment Complex and academia. Never been to Alabama, have no dog in the fight. but they would have ripped Alabama to shreds, substituting the punch lines of Pollock jokes or Moron jokes for Alabama jokes. It just seems so unfair what the State would have had to endure if Moore won. It would have been brutal.
Now, my take. AL is a very conservative religious (Christian) state, including the poor and black residents. The black community is quite conservative and Christian, all in all. You won’t hear this on the news, but the election was about Christian Values. The Roy Moore election was all about sex scandals, nothing more or nothing less. The only issue. The people did not vote for Jones, but instead the people voted against the hypocrisy of a man whose public persona was Christian Values. They don’t kindly to that.
You can say that the Conservative Christians rose up and rejected Moore to preserve Christian and Conservative Values. The conservative Christians of Alabama, including the black folks, simply voted against sending Moore to DC with those allegations hanging around his neck. It’s was not about Right vs Left. Liberal vs Conservative. It was all about Christian Values, Christian values, Southern values, if you will. Yes, Moore had a very good showing for being such a bad candidate (almost won) and Moore was the anti-establishment candidate when he won the primaries over RINO Mitch’s Luther Strange. That was, as we all know, was before any allegations. And, yes, there were other factors in play as there always are. The morality issue carried the day. Christian Values.
Need proof? Need to know why I say it was not a Left vs. Right election? Sessions won re-election to the Senate by something like 97% of the vote, lol. That was not all that long ago. And what most folks forget is that Sessions owned the illegal alien issue on the Right until he stepped aside to become the Attorney General. The black community does not support illegal immigration, not by a long shot. Never have. It’s was the repulsive nature of the allegations against Moore that cut against the grain of conservative Christian Alabama.
Just look at the Senator from AZ, Flake, Fluke, Fake, or whatever his name is. The incumbent senator ain’t running again. His polling shows he will be defeated easily in the primaries. He is quitting when his term expires. The anti-establishment mood is alive and kicking, against the RINOs on my side of the aisle. The Establishment R’s promised to repeal Obamacare, control the borders, and a bunch of stuff. They never intended to deliver. Flake is gone, McCain as well.
It was not a populist movement that propelled Trump easily over all his 18 R opponents. It was an anti-RINO movement which continues strong to this day. Alabama had nothing to do with Jones. It was about values, Christian values, conservative values. Mitch and the RINOs spent millions trashing Mo Brooks, a very good man. Mo said he would not support Mitch for Senate Majority Leader. They (R’s) trashed Mo, rallied against Mo and rallied behind Luther Strange, who said he definitely supports Mitch. Moore was the default candidate. The Tea Party has not gone anywhere. We those on the Right) still need to have our debate, a Republican internal debate, on what it means to be a conservative. Are you listening Mitch? You meddled and it blew in.your face.
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Welcome home, Fish and Scenes. Speaking for Fish, we missed ya. Scenes, do me a favor and run some clips of Trey today. It’s fire and brimstone. Thanks. They wanted an investigation that was independent of the Justice Department and Administration. Well, they certainly got that. What we didn’t get was an independent investigation independent of TDS. Got to run.
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I guess you cant question a lefty-
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/13/cuomo-calls-female-reporters-harassment-question-disservice-to-women.html
😉
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Scenes has come out of witness protection! Nice to see ya’ back.
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Looks like the American people have more trust in Trump than they do in “punchy’s” profession of media.
https://morningconsult.com/2017/04/28/political-media-earns-poor-marks-americans/
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” run some clips of Trey today.”
Oddly enough, I did exactly that this afternoon. I like the cut of his jib, but always wondered if his dressing downs actually do a bit of good. Those highly partisan DOJ apparatchiks are just going to do a bit of Newspeak, wait for the Congressman’s time to run out, and go home to a nice dinner.
The establishment really does want to bring down the President due to his many crimes (improved economy, dealing with ISIS, stuck in the mud with healthcare, potentially something of a pussy grabber and other heinous deeds) and some ex-District Attorney from South Carolina isn’t going to budge that leviathan. I wish I knew more about what drives the so-called Deep State. It can’t simply be the installation of a POTUS who is against essentially unrestricted immigration, which seems to be the prime irritant to the crazies in the urban areas (plus a few in the hinterland).
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Nope,, just can’t tax us fast enough. I’m sure this money is going to go to fixing roads too.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/12/11/california-considers-mileage-tax/
Time to start driving the old beater as the daily driver. I can disconnect the speedometer.
I’m sure the “poor” will have a free ride.
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“For your reading pleasure: Trump continues to drop in consensus polls.”
Punchy, 3:25pm
The polls have been continuing to drop since July, when Trump first hit the 41% he hit today.
That’s sideways motion, Paul. Not a continued drop. It’s been in a narrow range for weeks and months.
Innumeracy is endemic among musicians. Also among newsreaders in lefty public radio stations.
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“I want to believe the path u threw out 4 consideration in Andy’s office-that there’s no way he gets elected-but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk.It’s like an insurance policy in unlikely event u die be4 you’re 40”
oops.
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Hello. My name is Jessica Leeds, I am a Trump sexual assault victim. I just happen to be a Clinton foundation secretary and Hillary’s friend.
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/964940510322838/?type=3&theater
Trumps groped woman in front of Ray Charles. Sweet.
https://www.chicksonright.com/2017/12/12/new-accuser-claims-trump-groped-her-in-front-of-ray-charles/
That was just fluff. The real story, the big story, is the corrupt ties of the FBI and senior officials at the Justice Department with Fusion-GPS to take actions to aid, assist, and facilitate the victory for one political canidate (HRC) over the other in a democratic US Presidential election.
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PS:…and to nullify the results of a fairly elected President. A political coup is in the works. Now, what did the previous President know and when did he know that he knows?
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At what point does this become subversion?
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While the left wants to make Alabama ‘the next big thing’ – You Caly-fornykators might want to check out reality.
https://calcoastnews.com/2017/12/slo-considers-raising-taxes-marijuana-cover-budget-deficit/
A reduced workforce – higher taxes – reductions in salary.
And tax dope to the moon. Addicts will pay almost anything? Right?
SLO is just one of hundreds of cities and munis that are facing financial ruin.
Can’t blame it on Trump, folks. Deal with it or don’t. Your choice.
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Gregory
I know you’re trying to put a smiley on the dismal Trump job approval numbers but the fact is from Jan 26 when the first consensus poll was taken to today his disapproval have risen form 44 to 58, a huge drop by any estimation. Even in Alabama where he defeated Hillary by nearly 30% he was unable to exert enough influence to put Moore over the top. That’s a manifestation of weakness.
No smiley here. Trump is historically down in approval polls and last nights election is evidence of that.
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I don’t think you are making any impact on we who could care less about the polls. You are pedantic and boring.
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Paul, you’re trying to put a “smiley” on your innumeracy. The drop in Trump’s poll numbers was due to the campaign to delegitimize the election.
Remember Morning Joe’s line that there was one candidate under investigation on election day November 2016, and it wasn’t Hillary?
Think Punchy… was that true?
https://crooksandliars.com/2017/03/election-day-trump-was-only-one-under-fbi
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“he was unable to exert enough influence to put Moore over the top.”
And that was after he didn’t quite have the oomph to get Moore to lose the primary to Strange, who would have walked away with the election. Moore was also winning handily when the Swiftboating started.
How many times did we here him called a “pedophile”, which is a serious mental illness that is impervious to cure… a sexual interest in prepubescent children. Not dating (without intercourse) a post-pubescent girl of a marriageable age (remembering, this was ‘Bama). Do I really believe his protestations that he didn’t even know the girl? No. And nothing in his political past would cause me to want to vote for him for dogcatcher, let alone a Senate seat.
But he got screwed… there is one reason, and one reason alone, that Allred held her client back until it would be too late to change the candidate… this was bareknuckled political machinations.
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Well Gregory record low job approval polling is the reality in the end. There is always a reason that things go bad.
Interesting to see you reference to “swiftboarding” as to the fate of Moore. You must agree then that what the Bush team did to John Kerry was equally devious because that’s where the term came from.
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