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Sandbox – 13dec17

[Well, let's really focus on what happened in Alabama, and how the Impeach Trump Initiative (ITI) will now proceed apace in Dem circles and in their coordinated lamestream.  2018 will be a mid-term election to remember.  gjr]

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  1. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    A short list of pervs for Todd to add to his black book. Pretty sure Larry Craig and Dennis Hastert are already included under favorites in his contacts list. Yup, them dems have a lock on the perv category.
    Roger Ailes, Phil Hinkle, Bill O’Reily, Jeff Kruse, Roy Moore, Larry Craig, Bob Packwood, James West, Don Shooter, Herman Cain, Geraldo, Chris Myers, Wes Goodman, Jack Latvala, Dennis Hastert, Jeff Hoover, Tim Murphy, Donald Trump, Tony Cornish, Matt Wingard, Charlie Christ, Newt Gingrich, our own John Ensign, Mark Foley,

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    This comment in the Union concerning pot shops surprised me.
    “The community as a whole, by volume … does not support one (dispensary), let alone two or three,” Strawser said. “I supported this as a compromise, thinking it was critical to allow one to help people who need this medicine. … We promised we would start slow and go with the process.”
    Full disclosure: this is the first Union article I have read on the Nevada City pot shop issue and proposals, thus I have not followed the story at all after all these months (years?). I assumed that the majority of Nevada City residents wanted a pot shop from listening to Punchy and others rally vigourously behind pot shops in their backyard playground, aka, Nevada City .
    Maybe it was a misquote by Strawser??

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  3. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    I saw that too Bill. Duane is one of two on the council who want three rather than the one shop. I don’t understand his mixed signals, but he and Senum are friends of one of the proposed shops that couldn’t cut the grade on a level playing field. Hardly a fair competitive bid process to be sure.

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I found Todd’s link @ 8:29 am troubling.
    Troubling because of this zero tolerance policy simply because of allegations. Yes, the political arena is not the legal arena. But where is the vehicle to prove the validity of any claims or the path for recourse of the accused? I really find this trend of guilty until proven innocent (akin to dealing with the IRS) across the land quite disturbing. As Todd’s link shows, we may never know the truth. He said, she said. Was he a employee seeking vengeance for not getting a promotion, or did the supervisor make a move on him when they were attending a function at a hotel out of town? We will never know. And no matter how likeable or talented or valuable you are to an employer, the employer will never back you up if HR finds violations of Title IX. The cost of litigation, nay, just the threat of lawsuits against the employer trumps everything.
    Which is why I am so troubled by the Kansas female Congressional
    candidate getting the boot from the Dem Party. I see no conclusive evidence in this 10 year old “he said, she said” case. In this current climate, we must not make the allegations supercede everything else. Yes, abused women (rape, domestic violence) do suffer from PTSD and recall and details can and are conflicting. And many are hesitant to report violations immediately. BTW, Title IX does not require an immediate reporting by the one who has been made to feel uncomfortable by unwanted words, memes, or deeds…persons, places, or things. But, I ain’t talking about the extremes.of rape , assaults, or domestic violence.
    If the Kansas woman made a pass at a subordinate and was rebuffed, so be it. Maybe misread signals or was doing the Mrs. Robinson thing. Or maybe it was all a vindictive employee who felt his supervisor did not like him and he didn’t get a raise or promotion. When the cat’s awaythe mice will play…out of town on company business in a hotel…or maybe something else.
    Bottomline, each case must taken on its own merits and stand alone. Charges against Roy Moore differ greatly than charges against Stuart Smiley…er…Al Franken. The allegations against Moore were more yucky, but so long ago and no evidence that Moore continued that behavior (alleged or not) in 30 or more years. Franken’s accussations are less egregious than Moore’s ick factor, but more recent and more accusers. That photo of Franken’s gleeful face fondling a exhausted sleeping model’s breasts is kinda hard to overlook…and it wasn’t 38 years ago.
    I feel that the Kansas Dem canidate got caught up in something much bigger than her and was unfairly booted from the race by her party. It’s all about politics, not about gender, fairness, qualifications, seriousness of the charges, nor anything else. I feel sad for her.

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  5. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Well Lisa is her mothers daughter-
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/15/attorney-lisa-bloom-sought-to-line-up-paydays-for-women-accusing-trump-sexual-misconduct-report.html
    😉

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  6. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Robert Cross | 15 December 2017 at 07:57 AM
    #quicktothefaintingcouchbobby

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  7. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Rubio a YES on tax cuts, DOW up 165 24,674 with an hour to go. 😉

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    For your reading pleasure:
    Trump reaches new low in RCP consensus poll – 20.8 :
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    More bad news for the Pubbers
    Washington (CNN)On Tuesday night, Democrats flipped two Republican-held state legislative seats — one in Oklahoma, one in New Hampshire — that Donald Trump carried in the 2016 election.
    That makes six turnovers from Republican to Democrat in contested state House and Senate races so far in 2017 — and 26 out of 35 races (at the state legislative and congressional level) in which the Democratic nominee has overperformed Hillary Clinton’s showing last November. (Worth noting: Republicans have yet to flip a Democratic-controlled seat so far this year.)

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    UH OH, telling the truth can get you lynched in SF-
    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/12/15/delingpole-more-freedom-of-speech-in-beijing-than-san-francisco-warns-tech-industry-ceo/
    😉

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    BAM! Triple index records on Wall St.! Another YES on tax cuts! WHOOO HOOOO! 😉

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  12. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 15 December 2017 at 12:51 PM
    How are the Green Libertarians doing Punch?

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  13. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Only a jerk-off partisan Democrat uses “Pubber” when referring to Republicans, Paul. Why do you persist with name-calling?

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  14. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    There are many more Democratic Senate seats in Trump territories up for grabs next November than GOP seats in Hillary territory.
    But you’re right, Paul. It’s all over. 2018 will be a GOP bloodbath, just like it was supposed to be in 2016. The biggest problem you will have is how to reeducate individual “Pubbies” found walking aimlessly in the streets, shellshocked by the experience.
    You were just two years too early in your forecasts.
    sarc /off

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  15. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    fish, there are no ‘Green’ libertarians.

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Gregory | 15 December 2017 at 01:42 PM

    Well then what is Punch-E….politically?

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  17. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    It’s kinda fun Gregory. I get a kick out of it. Why do you refer to me as Punchy?

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Uh Oh!! Looks like somebody is getting disbarred!
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-15/scheme-pay-trump-accusers-emerges-one-woman-was-offered-750000

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  19. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul
    Because you punch and then run away, Paul, and you’ve identified yourself as a former boxer. I thought that was clear.
    fish
    I believe Paul is a registered Democrat.

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Gregory | 15 December 2017 at 02:12 PM
    fish
    I believe Paul is a registered Democrat.

    You can understand my confusion …….he just sounded so sure of himself when proudly came out of the closet!

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Democrat Gregory. Where did you get that idea?
    OK Gregory if that’s your justification for calling me Punchy then my justification of Pubbers is because the Republicans all sound like chest thumpers in a pub when they are all watching their favorite team. Hence Pubbers. I kinda like it.

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  22. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    So Paul, you deny being a registered Democrat?
    I’m not doing this for fun or profit.

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  23. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “if that’s your justification for calling me Punchy then my justification of Pubbers is because the Republicans all sound like chest thumpers in a pub when they are all watching their favorite team”
    And what b.s. would you have flung into the fan if that wasn’t my “justification”. Again, you aren’t being honest… just punching at what you imagine are weak spots.

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Just as good as your “punchy” blat Gregory
    Yes I am not a registered Democrat

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  25. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    Trump Admin To Remove Climate Change From List Of National Security Threats
    Federalist By Mollie Hemingway
    The Trump administration will reverse course from previous Obama administration policy, eliminating climate change from a list of national security threats. The National Security Strategy to be released on Monday will emphasize the importance of balancing energy security with economic development and environmental protection, according to a source who has seen the document and shared excerpts of a late draft.
    http://thefederalist.com/2017/12/15/trump-admin-to-remove-climate-change-from-list-of-national-security-threats/

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  26. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    My reason was given honestly.
    Assuming the little birdie who told me you were registered DEM was accurate at the time, what are registered as now, Paul, or do I have to go to the County go find out?
    I know you aren’t registered as a Green Libertarian, a party that does not exist.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Libertarian

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Voted Libertarian he last 8 years

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    W/hy is it so important to you Gregory? Are you turning Todd on me?

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  30. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, I’d be less interested had you been forthcoming in the past. Along those lines, I didn’t ask you how you voted, only when you registered LIB. Eight years ago?

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  31. fish Avatar
    fish


    Posted by: Paul Emery | 15 December 2017 at 03:30 PM
    Libertarian
    Really? Have you examined what the Libertarians espouse. Cuz it’s not top down government controlled healthcare?

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    He is a registered democrat.

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Fish 346
    Good point. A libertarian is a LESS government type. Paul Emery wants the government to take over your body and your money.

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  34. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Here are the tenets and positions of the Libertarian Party –
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_(United_States)
    I don’t think that PaulE has much in common with these. But then again, I could be wrong would like to hear with which of those beliefs and positions he concurs.

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  35. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Its bad enough we have to deal with all the fakenewsmen but censorship by web gods is too much to accept!
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/15/google-is-using-its-immense-power-to-censor-content-that-doesnt-fit-its-political-goals/
    The 2nd amendment has the 1st amendments back. 😉

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  36. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I don’t think they are teaching true cultural liberalism on our campuses. They do to a large degree on some aspects, but not others. Which is why it’s so much fun to point out their blindness to their own blantant hypocrisies, Oh, where have all the purists gone? As with a diamond, there are many facets that make up the whole. Let’s take just one of the facets; cultural liberalism.
    “The culture wars in politics are generally disagreements between cultural liberals and cultural conservatives, as cultural liberals are strongly opposed to censorship or any kind of oversight of spoken or written material.”
    Tell that to the college Republicans. They are not allowed to do their own thing, much less speak what is on their minds without censorship, a censorship which comes at you in many forms from numerous directions.
    Know a great accountant. He graduated from an university that was so far Left that the wall out in the farthest boundaries of left field was the starting point.. Anyway, he said everyone on campus was a full blown liberal, except the business students, which were Libertarians. ;).

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  37. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Speaking of culture wars victims-
    http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2017/12/15/nfl-protests-affecting-chicken-wing-sales-poultry-producer-sanderson-farms-says.html
    😉

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Here’a a list of Libertarian Principals as described in Georges link.
    This includes favoring minimally regulated markets,
    Yes
    a less powerful federal government, strong civil liberties (including LGBT rights),
    Yes
    (the party supports same-sex marriage),
    Yes
    the liberalization of drug laws,
    Yes
    separation of church and state
    Yes,
    open immigration
    not necessarily
    , non-interventionism
    Yes
    and neutrality in diplomatic relations
    Yes,
    free trade and free movement to all foreign countries
    Yes
    and a more representative republic.
    Yes

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  39. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    You have some clarification to do Paul. How bout “freedom from religion”? (That one will be tough)

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Then why register democrat ya po’ ol’ fakenewsman? 😉

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  41. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Obummercare PENALTY is DOA in the tax bill!
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5185023/GOP-tax-cut-bill-slashes-rates-kills-Obamacare-penalty.html

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  42. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    So much for the argument that illegal dreamers are a benefit to the US-
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/15/cbo-report-daca-amnesty-would-cost-american-taxpayers-26-billion/
    That does not even consider the impact of chain migration! 😉

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  43. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 15 December 2017 at 05:47 PM
    1) Eliminating government dictated and controlled healthcare.
    2) Eliminating government departments like Education, Energy, HHS, etc.
    3) Reducing or eliminating a multitude of taxes …… for non-critical government functions…like public radio! Including those levied against those evul corporayshuns!
    4) Gutting gun control laws and regulations at the federal level!
    5) Vastly reducing environmental regulations at the federal level.
    ….the list goes on!
    Not one of those things have I ever heard you argue for!

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Punchy, how about the elimation of the welfare state? Elimination of the IRS, lower taxes, protecting gun ownership rights? I know, it’s just like a smorgasbord. Take want you like, and leave….er….stay mum on the rest.

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  45. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Registered Libertarian Don. Where did you get that information? Haven’t voted Democrat (presidential) for 8 years.

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  46. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 15 December 2017 at 06:22 PM
    Punchy really wants the pony…..he just hasn’t figured out what to do with the leavins!

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I took the list from what George provided in his link. Here is the direct quote from their platform. Libertarians do not agree on everything.
    This includes favoring minimally regulated markets, a less powerful federal government, strong civil liberties (including LGBT rights), (the party supports same-sex marriage), the liberalization of drug laws, separation of church and state, open immigration, non-interventionism and neutrality in diplomatic relations, free trade and free movement to all foreign countries, and a more representative republic.[49] The party’s position on abortion is that government should stay out of the matter and leave it to the individual, but recognizes that some “good-faith” opinions on this issue are different.[50] Ron Paul, one of the former Presidential nominees of the Libertarian Party in 1988, is strictly pro-life. Gary Johnson, the party’s 2012 and 2016 presidential candidate, is pro-choice, as were most of the party’s past nominees other than Paul.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_(United_States)

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  48. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Switching gears, time to drain CA’s Education Swam
    “Kids are the same everywhere, including those who come from disadvantaged backgrounds. As many of us know, growing up poor doesn’t make you dumb. The ability to learn is innate, so isn’t it time to focus on who is doing the teaching, or in California’s case, those not teaching?
    In the California lawsuit, it appears good teachers are trying to take a stand. “State assessments found 96 percent of students [at a plaintiff’s school] were not proficient in English or math, according to the lawsuit. Only eight of the school’s 179 students were found to be proficient when tested last year. David Moch, another plaintiff, is a retired teacher who taught at La Salle for 18 years. Moch said he had fifth graders in his kindergarten class.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/15/tammy-bruce-drain-education-swamp-college-students-tyrannical-behavior-must-be-stopped.html
    (The printed word, not the video.)

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  49. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Libertarian… The party of cat herding. Cats want to rule the world too. You do know why they never will? Google it.

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  50. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The po’ ol’ fakenewsman seems to forget he was exposed by the voter registration rolls. 😉

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