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149 responses to “Sandbox – 29sep17”
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So Fish I contend that all guns and firearms be registered to an owner so gun accidents that involve children and firearms can be traced to the negligent owner of the firearms who would be charged with child neglect or whatever is appropriate.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 September 2017 at 11:18 AM
Yeah…..good luck with that.
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I see Paul E ran off the rails yesterday, sorry I couldn’t make it. A not too recent factoid about 1300 “kids” being killed by gunfire got morphed quickly into many different claims. About kids finding guns laying around the house and taking them to school, and who to blame for it.
Most of the kids (generally defined as someone below the age of 18) shooting or being shot are concentrated in places like Chicago (aka Chiraq) and it’s gang activity that’s handing them the guns because it’s likely the shooter would be tried as a juvenile and out of prison soon even if someone died… and that was also true when the gangs were run by Al Capone and the drug was alcohol.
The St.Valentine’s day massacre shocked the country into blaming the gun nearly a century ago when seven were killed at the same time… and the gun laws we’ve put in place as a result have arguably made things worse. Seven dead in Chicago is a slow weekend.
http://heyjackass.com/ has lots of statistics illustrating Chicago values.
There is no “common sense” law just around the corner that will stop senseless violence. All the “common sense” laws (twenty thousand is one counting) to date are why we’re up to our ass in victims and funerals.
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Paul 1118
How many “gun accidents that involve children and firearms” involve firearms whose owner cannot be determined through normal means?
IIRC street guns are usually stolen.
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While the kneelers were taking the knee last weekend, 40 black men and women were shot in Chicago alone….by blacks….not cops. That is where ground zero for gun violence resides.
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1300 kids Gregory no matter how you finesse are killed by guns every year. Here’s the complete report researched by Pediatrics Official Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2017/06/15/peds.2016-3486
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George and gerrymandering.
Everyone complains about the weather but no one does anything about it. That’s also true about gerrymandering, and as long as boundaries have to be drawn in a political process there will be someone fiddling with the details for an edge in the next election.
There will also always be a political process to set the boundaries.
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I am surprised that Paul Emery could care less about the millions of children dead from malaria in Africa because the left was able to get DDT out of the place. Shame on you.
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BillT 1220pm – Mr Tozer, as we both know, the only black lives that matter to liberals are those taken by whites, and it doesn’t matter under what circumstances the blacks die – legitimate or illegitimate. Otherwise black lives really don’t matter to the liberal blacks or whites, especially in the Dem controlled urban areas.
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Yes Paul. Kids are dying from gunshots.
Now, you read that document and share with us a law or regulatory scheme that can be put into place that would reduce the problems leading to those deaths. Something that has not been tried before.
Be rational this time.
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Oh……if you could only see my “shocked face” right now.
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blockquote>Americans burdened by Obamacare now face even higher costs…
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-obamacare-victims-20170929-story.html
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re PaulE 1221pm – The only rationale behind the concern for the 1300 “children” dying from gunshots is that it is the most convenient heart-strings argument for another step toward complete confiscation of guns which must be done in the same manner that frogs are boiled slowly. The real finessing is done by liberals refusing to discuss the broad ownership of guns in the hands of citizens of the nation that is the world’s white hat hegemon – ‘Look, Germany (or any other country of choice) doesn’t let people keep guns and they are free.’ doesn’t wash.
If saving lives really mattered to them, there are a lot of other low-hanging-fruit approaches that would save many many more childrens’ lives around the world.
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DOW 22,405 S & P and NASDAC also record closes! Making America’s 401’s Great Again. Investor confidence skyrocketing. Happy Friday. 😉
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More than plenty of laws on the books about guns Paul.
Most of them do little.
Ban Cars Paul.. People and children are killed daily.
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George
Does that mean that we should ignore the deaths of 1300 children each year due to guns and regard them as inevitable or should we try to do something? What in your view should that “something ” be?
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 September 2017 at 01:41 PM
Today on Uncle Punch-Es Seemingly Endless Question Hour we got nothing new so we are just going to rerun yesterdays episode! If phone numbers are shown during the show….please don’t call.
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Price resigns
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Why don’t you move to Chicago and set up shop on the line between MS13 and the bloods and preach your gun sermons. I am sure the po’ ol’ party parrot official guilt trip lines will convince them to turn in their guns. HAHAHAHAHAHA! 😉
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Paul Emery why are you not concerned about the millions of children dead from malaria after you libs stopped its use? Shame on you. Using liberal logic this must mean you are a racist.
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Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 September 2017 at 01:49 PM
Price resigns
Good!
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Could the po’ ol’ party parrot please explain the difference between guns and firearms in your 1118. 😉
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fish | 29 September 2017 at 01:52 PM
Agreed!
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PaulE 141pm – Before passing another spate of ineffective gun laws and regs, start enforcing the ones already on the books. Wanna save kids lives, enforce existing gun laws in Dem administered cities like St Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, …
https://www.thetrace.org/2017/07/gun-homicide-rates-baltimore-st-lous-detroit/
When you got that under control, and the problem still exists, then let’s take a look at new burdens with which we can saddle law abiding gun owners.
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Hypocrite Tom Price is out. MAGA!
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re fish 152pm – It sure looks like Price was hounded out of office by the lamestream. Does anyone have any evidence that Price did anything wrong, especially after agreeing to pay for his chartered flights, since all of his travels were pre-approved by internal HHS legal watchdogs? Absent such evidence, he is just the latest victim of the Left’s resist Trump movement.
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keichibungholio- Fish posted that @ 152. 😉
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Dr. R @ 222- Yes on the resist media and he was unable to close the deal an 0 care.
Am I the only one who noticed the po’ ol’ pollhead is quiet, could it be the numbers don’t follow his party talking points? 😉
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Oh Donnie Boi, it is worth repeating 😉
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Its more like you have nothing to offer keciebungholieo. What’s with boi v boy are you a rapper on the side? 😉
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Well done Politico Without affective journalism we maybe wouldn’t have known about this taxpayer abuser and hypocrite Of course he was fired by Trump no matter what he says There’s more to come standby
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So the po’ ol’ fakenewsman would have fired Holder, Rice, and the rest of team 0 who did it too? As if, ya good ol’ party parrot 😉
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Paul
I suggest making it illegal to shoot kids. Will that do? If not, why not?
Hmmm… checking, it’s already illegal to shoot kids except in self defense.
A shocker… it’s illegal to shoot just about anyone except in self defense. Who knew?
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So Paul Emery is happy Trump fired Price but still disses Trump. What a guy.
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Still crickets from PE on the malaria deaths of millions of children. What a hypocrite.
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Yes, Price out for scamming the taxpayers.
Oops!! here’s another one: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-shulkin-travel_us_59ce91abe4b06791bb107ed7?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Ane we are even paying when ‘advisors’ go on vacation, not to mention pay golf.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-kids-ski-vacation-incurs-over-300000-in-security-costs/
When will the corruption of the fossil fuel mafia and their nit wit goons, the Trump family, end? Before or after the country is bankrupt? Except, of course, all those who will make millions off Trump’s tax plan. He himself will save $750,000,000 in taxes over the next 10 years if the bill passes. Tax cuts for the wealthy, who won’t even notice the difference and don’t need it anyway, with no viable way to pay for them equals more national debt, equals more tax dollars to pay the interest on that debt, equals fewer benefits accruing to the majority of taxpayers for their tax dollars, equals more profit for the defense industry when those tax cuts are coupled with increased military spending, equals insanity.
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Cross as usual eh bobbie? Spoken like a good party parrot who has no historical perspective. 😉
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Posted by: Paul emery | 29 September 2017 at 02:53 PM
Well done Politico Without affective journalism we maybe wouldn’t have known about this taxpayer abuser and hypocrite Of course he was fired by Trump no matter what he says There’s more to come standby
Yes….we all appreciate affective journalism.
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Forget it Todd. I’m not falling for the oldest trick in debating the old bait and switch. The topic I introduced is children’s gun deaths and if you don’t want to talk about that then off you go.
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Don
Can you provide some documentation for your allegations about Holder, Rice and “the rest of them”? Some documentation can add to the conversation.
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Posted by: Robert Cross | 29 September 2017 at 03:30 PM
Ane we are even paying when ‘advisors’ go on vacation, not to mention pay golf.
For the same reason that the Secret Service rolled a fleet of 8 rotary minigun equipped GMC Yukons and closed off a big chunk of Georgetown when Michelle O wanted to play at going to the local farmers market. The difference is Tom Price is a private citizen again….the Obamas kept taking expensive trips on the taxpayers dime!
Oh and…..thanks Bobby.
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OH NO…….more shocked face!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-29/new-study-finds-cheapest-obamacare-plans-are-unaffordable-94-american-cities
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PaulE 344pm – does it seem that the only conversation about “children’s gun deaths” you want to have is the one-sided one in which you respond to no one who attempts to engage in any other way than that of the ever-compliant, ante-bellum South, ‘Yassah, yassah, we sho do need mo gun laws, and then them chilluns gon’be awright, yassah!’ ??
PS. Still wanna talk about gun laws, or have we found you a new game of dodge ball?
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 September 2017 at 03:39 PM
Forget it Todd. I’m not falling for the oldest trick in debating the old bait and switch.
I thought the oldest trick in debating was asking questions over and over, and over again…..
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Wow George
Was that some kind of racial mimic?
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 September 2017 at 03:59 PM
Look how quickly the argument is abandoned…..when Punch thinks he has found a bigger hammer!
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PaulE 359pm – Yes Paul, the Negro slaves in the old South to be exact. I did my best (recalling our recent viewing of ‘Blazing Saddles’). Thought that would touch a button or two on your ‘scan for racists’ system 😉
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George
You know exactly what Todd is doing. Why are you defending him ?
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Posted by: George Rebane | 29 September 2017 at 04:03 PM
To answer an earlier question George…..Price publicly hammered Nancy Pelosi pretty hard over her continued use of the executive fleet out of Andrews (Google Nancys aviation bar tab if you want to see taxpayer abuse writ democrat…..also notice that little Bobby didn’t raise a fuss over any democrat malfeasance) so it looked really bad for him to be caught with his hand in the cookie jar so blatantly.
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Keep posting Paul Emery. You repeat your questions and change the topics at your pleasure. Then when pressed you run away like a scared rabbit. Back down the hole. Goodness, you are so liberally predictable. And even when I mimicked you you could not stand yourself. What a hoot!
Price was abusing the office and after all the reporting I was glad to see Trump clean him out. He really did not usher the TrumpCare or use his “Directors” discretion to masticate the Ocare debacle. Adios Jim!
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Thanks to Politico Todd for breaking the story.
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