279 responses to “Sandbox – 12sep17”

1. 

   Russ

   12 September 2017

   Of Course Hillary Clinton Identifies with Cersei Lannister. They Are the Same Person.
   What’s the difference between Game of Thrones character Cersei Lannister and failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton? One is an entitled narcissist who quietly supported her lecherous husband (whom she clearly loathed) when it was politically convenient, then insisted it was her turn to rule (even though it wasn’t), chose boot-lickers, ass-kissers, and elitist bankers as her advisors while alienating more competent and better-liked people who might have helped her, exacted petty vengeance on imagined enemies, escaped justice and the judgment of the people by destroying her main rival—the charismatic, income-inequality obsessed populist—with an explosive cheat, and was left confused why so many people in her country would rather be ruled by a complete political unknown who tells it like it is.
   Robby Soave, Reason Hit and Run Blog
   https://reason.com/blog/2017/09/12/hillary-clinton-cersei-what-happened
   To be transparent, I have never watched Game of Thrones but thought the description of Hillary was spot-on.

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   Bill Tozer

   12 September 2017

   Well, glad we got a clean Sandbox.
   Like McCain or Romney, the Left vilifies them with hate one minute, then love them the next. Add the Pope to the list. I am not a Catholic nor have I ever been, but I am beginning to see a renewed narrative of Christians (read white Christians) being the evil guys again. Hatred for Christian conventions, beliefs, and norms is as old as feeding them to the lions for public entertained. Renewed because I am seeing it more frequent (daily) in the current narrative lumping together misogyny, White Supremacy, racists, and Catholics/Christians as the evil doers and source of everything our progressives oppose and despise….with extreme prejudice. In short, White Catholics
   Having a Presidental candidate and her campaign actively try to change a religion to conform to progressive beliefs about the s

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   Bill Tozer

   12 September 2017

   Opps, hit wrong button.
   ……Having a Presidental candidate and her campaign actively trying to change a religion to conform to progressive beliefs is the most egregious violation of the Constitution I can think of. Freedom of religion. Nothing new. We as Americans dodged a bullet on Nov. 9, 2016.
   From October 13, 2016…..about 3 weeks out from the election.
   https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clinton-is-a-threat-to-religious-liberty/2016/10/13/878cdc36-9150-11e6-a6a3-d50061aa9fae_story.html?utm_term=.f242e6adbaa1
   More recent quotes:
   “I feel compelled to speak out because I see a pattern emerging. A pattern of hostility toward people of faith who come before this body. … These strange [religious] inquisitions have nothing to do with the nominees’ competency, patriotism, or ability to serve Americans of different faiths equally. In fact, they have little to do with this life at all. Instead, they have to do with the afterlife.” —Sen. Mike Lee
   “It is breathtaking that Senate Democrats are counting individuals’ orthodox Christian faiths as a demerit when evaluating them for official posts. By interrogating Amy Coney Bennett about her Catholic faith, they are arrogantly abrogating their oath of office to the United States Constitution.” —Rep. Trent Franks

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   Walt

   12 September 2017

   OK Lefties,, you really need to do something here. At least McCain has a valid excuse.
   Your gal from Frisco is nutting up.
   http://www.theamericanmirror.com/whats-wrong-nancy-orders-lgbt-group-clap-obama-laments-bulleting-youth/
   Her broom is giving off too many fumes. Someone tell her “O” is no longer President.
   On second thought,, don’t tell her anything. In her state of mind she is more than likely to vote with the Right.

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5. 

   Michael R. Kesti

   12 September 2017

   Bill Tozer | 12 September 2017 at 03:48 PM
   I have to disagree with your assessment that a presidential candidate trying to change a religion is a violation of the Constitution. It is the government that is Constitutionally prohibited from interfering with religion. A candidate is not the government but is a citizen whose freedom of religion is no different than yours or mine, including the freedom to attempt to change a religion if motivated to do so. I believe that the elected also have that freedom if acting as citizens rather than as government. It would likely be political suicide, but…
   I do agree that a bullet was dodged, though!

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6. 

   George Rebane

   12 September 2017

   re MichaelK 541pm – My other take on your interpretation is that when you assume high institutional office of any kind (doubly so for government electeds), you forgo the ability to mix and match your voice between public and private. The public always takes your words as emanating from the power and glory of your office. Once a sitting MOC, you are never introduced as Mr/Ms, but always with the salutation of your office. And therefore you are expected to speak with that voice. I know it’s a bitch, but once in, you don’t get to play both sides of the street any more.

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7. 

   Russ

   12 September 2017

   From the Ace of Spades HQ:
   uhhhhhh holy shit pic.twitter.com/OPo9mrYqt3
   — kate reads books (@katereadsbks) September 12, 2017

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8. 

   Russ

   12 September 2017

   oops links do not work, go here: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/371542.php

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9. 

   Walt

   12 September 2017

   Say goodbye to Tesla.
   http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article172833961.html
   “The United Auto Workers union has set out to organize thousands of Tesla workers, some of whom allege that the company had illegally intimidated them. The National Labor Relations Board’s Oakland regional office filed a complaint against the company late last month.”
   “Democratic lawmakers and Gov. Jerry Brown are siding with organized labor in its battle with automaker Tesla, inserting a provision in last-minute legislation to spend $1.5 billion in cap-and-trade money.”

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10. 

    John

    12 September 2017

    The cracks in the dam are starting to leak and it won’t be long before it is a torrent of information regarding the crimes and cover up by HRC, Comey, Huma, Cheryl Mills, Podesta etc. The truth is coming out about Benghazi, deleting emails, destruction of evidence, mishandling classified information etc. Watch the rats as they start to jump ship, it will be very entertaining and we might just see the justice system do its job for a change. The spin by the MSM and the fake news men will be the best part. That and their obsession with poll numbers.

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11. 

    Don Bessee

    12 September 2017

    Lots of fresh sand to paw in! Nice day, all stock indexes at record highs and investor confidence is at a 17 year high. Comrade Murray the mayor of Seattle is finally stepping down behind multiple raping young boys accusations. He held out for an extended period until they found the paper files on his molesting his foster kids in the 90’s. Darn those paper records, if it was in a data base he could have just had a socialist minion delete it. 😉

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12. 

    Russ

    12 September 2017

    Walt@07:42
    We were in Boomtown and Tesla has built a huge facility at that interchange, it looks like a distribution center just over the state line. They laid off 200 people in Roseville, Ellen heard on the radio the Roseville operation was moving to Nevada. Ellen has some photos.
    The key phrase in the Sac Bee Story: “Companies that want to be eligible for the state’s zero-emission vehicle rebate program – a major driver of Tesla sales – would need to be certified by the state labor secretary “as fair and responsible in the treatment of their workers.”” Only cars built by union labor will get subsidies.

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13. 

    George Rebane

    12 September 2017

    Russ 850pm – unabashed sleaze to the max. We are so divided that more than half of Californians think nothing of such actions by government, the remainder see it as more evidence against encroaching leviathan.

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14. 

    Bill Tozer

    12 September 2017

    For Walt’s eyes only.
    No wonder you said your women don’t take no crud from any man. It’s in their DNA.
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/09/viking-warrior-woman-archaeology-spd/

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15. 

    fish

    12 September 2017

    I confess it’s not just Nancy….when I think of the entire democrat party I think senile. Green libertarians too…..can’t forget them….err…..him!
    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-nancy-pelosi-repeatedly-slurs-flubs-name-hamilton-playwright/

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16. 

    Don Bessee

    12 September 2017

    Nice, the full SCOTUS stopped the 9ths ruling and letting Trumps order stand. The lefties get to make a presentation late next month to try and sway the justices. Good luck with that nancy P and CA. 😉

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17. 

    Michael R. Kesti

    13 September 2017

    Have you seen that the FUE demonstrated that he is ashamed of being caucasian?

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18. 

    George Rebane

    13 September 2017

    MichaelK 915am – Then is this possibly an occasion with which we agree and share in his shame?

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19. 

    Robert Cross

    13 September 2017

    The Reason foundation: a koch bros. funded and guided right wing climate denier think tank.
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Reason_Foundation

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20. 

    Barry Pruett

    13 September 2017

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/ta-nehisi-coates-scar/
    Rod Dreher writes a wonderful response to Mr. Coates opinion piece.
    “This is a fine example of how on the left, anti-white racism is a legitimate mode of discourse. I live in a city that’s 51 percent black, and that has a fairly high crime rate. The criminals are overwhelmingly young black males. Does ‘blackness’ pose ‘an existential danger to the city’? If I claimed that — and to be clear, I would not do so — I would be professionally ruined. But Coates can openly demean whites as a race, and talk about how their very existence threatens the planet, and hit the bestseller charts, win a MacArthur genius grant, and become the darling of liberal elites. You wonder why some white people vote for Trump? Their eldritch patience with this kind of nonsense has run out.”

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21. 

    Michael R. Kesti

    13 September 2017

    George Rebane | 13 September 2017 at 09:35 AM
    Anything’s possible but I’m not ashamed of my skin’s melanin content.

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22. 

    George Rebane

    13 September 2017

    RobertC 937am – The Kochs’ share comes to about $62K/yr; hardly an amount to keep the organization going for all those years. Your use of “denier” identifies people whose skepticism of preventable man-made global warming rests on science-based arguments verifiable by those with sufficient smarts. The climate hysteria is abetted primarily by politically motivated ad hominems and citations of ‘consensus science’.
    MichaelK 955am – Didn’t mean to imply that any of the rest of us were ashamed of our skins’ melanin content. Yet that doesn’t mean that we are not also ashamed of the FUE’s paucity of melanin. On this occasion, let us stand with him. 😉

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23. 

    Michael R. Kesti

    13 September 2017

    George Rebane | 13 September 2017 at 10:07 AM
    I see that I misunderstood you and I very much appreciate your clarification.

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24. 

    fish

    13 September 2017

    Posted by: Michael R. Kesti | 13 September 2017 at 09:15 AM
    Have you seen that the FUE demonstrated that he is ashamed of being caucasian?
    I doubt very much that this is the case.
    What the FUE is deathly afraid of is being out of fashion. T-Neezi is presently the acceptable negro author for todays modern progressive. This is why jeffy chooses to retail his work.
    For a fun afternoon read the Sailer comment threads re Mr. Coates at unz.com.

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25. 

    George Rebane

    13 September 2017

    Recall last year how our leftwing readers strongly denied that Benghazi was significant to Hillary’s candidacy? The rest of us claimed that failure was a material indicator of her overall incompetency as a leader. Well, now Hillary tells it like it was – Benghazi mattered a lot. Not sure she’s yet ready to admit the incompetency assessment 😉
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/13/clinton-laments-how-benghazi-tragedy-hurt-her-politically.html

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26. 

    fish

    13 September 2017

    Posted by: George Rebane | 13 September 2017 at 10:46 AM
    George…..if I may be permitted to quote a leading politician/statesman regarding the issue of Hillary botched campaign.
    

    “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

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27. 

    George Rebane

    13 September 2017

    fish 1058am – An excellent recollection. With the passage of time the pain of it all has given rise to a significant reconsideration – Americans were concerned (vernacular: gave a shit) then, as they are now.
    And as said a Chinese sage of long ago – ‘Pain makes a man think, thinking makes a man wise, wisdom makes life bearable.’ I presume that this also applies to women. Further testing will no doubt confirm this 😉

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28. 

    fish

    13 September 2017

    Wow….it’s noon…..sure could use another patented “Punch-E” brand presidential popularity poll! That would be thuper!

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29. 

    Don Bessee

    13 September 2017

    Here is one for the po’ ol’ pollhead- 53% of CA dems oppose the 1st amendment rights of the right according to a new UC berzerkly poll. No surprise there. 😉

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30. 

    fish

    13 September 2017

    Posted by: Don Bessee | 13 September 2017 at 01:16 PM
    Well it’s good that they finally feel confident enough to come out of the closet and admit it!

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31. 

    George Rebane

    13 September 2017

    DonB 116pm – and to think that some local lefties still contend that the ‘double dummy’ appellation is inappropriate for this generation of America’s youth. The begged question remains, ‘What then do they know?’

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32. 

    Don Bessee

    13 September 2017

    Dr. R- One of our local DD luminaries, the dark lord of liberal lament land is now pushing Coats anti white boy Trump rant. This pattern would indicate they know nothing other than what they are told to parrot. 😉

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33. 

    Paul Emery

    13 September 2017

    I’m with Rand Paul on thie one.
    Rand Paul: Why we must repeal the 16-year-old Authorization for the Use of Military Force
    “As Congress takes up the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), I will insist it vote on my amendment to sunset the 2001 and 2002 Authorizations for the Use of Military Force.
    Why?
    Because these authorizations to use military force are inappropriately being used to justify American warfare in 7 different countries. Sunsetting both AUMFs will force a debate on whether we continue the Afghanistan war, the Libya war, the Yemen war, the Syria war, and other interventions.
    Our military trains our soldiers to be focused and disciplined, yet the politicians who send them to fight have for years ignored those traits when developing our foreign policy.
    The result? Trillions spent in seemingly endless conflicts in every corner of the globe, while we find ourselves 16 years into the war in Afghanistan wondering what our purpose there even is any more, or if we’ll ever bring our troops home.
    If we don’t get this rudderless foreign policy under control now, we’ll still be asking the same questions another 16 years down the road.
    More here:
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/rand-paul-why-we-must-repeal-the-16-year-old-authorization-for-the-use-of-military-force/

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34. 

    Paul Emery

    13 September 2017

    Sorry Fish Here you go
    For your reading pleasure:
    Trump continues to fade in the Conservative Rasmussen poll. He’s dropped 6% in a week, down by 14. So much for his little winning streak.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

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35. 

    fish

    13 September 2017

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 September 2017 at 01:56 PM
    Trump continues to fade in the Conservative Rasmussen poll.
    He is….dare I say…..still president Punch.

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36. 

    fish

    13 September 2017

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 September 2017 at 01:50 PM
    Stopped clock syndrome…….?
    I think you’re right Punch.

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37. 

    George Rebane

    13 September 2017

    Does anyone else notice that some of our commenters seldom/never give their own developed opinions on issues, but merely cite what someone else has said/written? And then there are those who limit their discourse to quoting polls without ever connecting those dots to anything material, as if the polls were simply the alfa and omega of the matter.

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38. 

    Paul Emery

    13 September 2017

    That he is Fish. He is also the least popular President in modern history at this stage and history is not kind to unpopular first term Presidents in the mid term national elections. Should be lots of fun to watch.
    Of course now Trump is playing footsie with the Dems so anything could happen. That will likely contribute to a decline in his base support which is already in the low 20’s.

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    Paul Emery

    13 September 2017

    George
    Polls are a consistent tracking of public opinion which makes them newsworthy and worthy of historical comparison. What that means is anybody’s opinion. What is your problem with that?

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40. 

    fish

    13 September 2017

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 September 2017 at 02:30 PM
    I still stand by my prediction that he will be your last president.

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41. 

    Paul emery

    13 September 2017

    Can you elaborate on what that means fish ? Are you saying he’s going to be elected for the next 20 years or are you predicting how long I’m going to live?

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42. 

    fish

    13 September 2017

    Posted by: Paul emery | 13 September 2017 at 02:56 PM
    You have been trotting out polls, and rumors, and conspiracy theories, and political diatribes since Trump was elected implying that he was on his way out the door….probably that day! Surely the next!
    It was only going to be mere moments until our political masters ushered Trump out in disgrace and restored proper politicians to their rightful role, ignoring our rights and squandering our money.
    So far your prognostications seem…..off…..a bit!

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43. 

    fish

    13 September 2017

    Tick, tick, tick………
    

    Feds Collect Record Taxes — Still Run $673B Deficit!

    Probably no reason to worry……I’m sure it’s all good and will be lots of fun to watch!
    https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/feds-collect-record-taxes-through-august-still-run-6737b-deficit

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44. 

    Don Bessee

    13 September 2017

    I would say Fish is saying that there are 7 + years of the Trump admin left and the po’ ol’ fakenewsmans mortality table being what it is….. 😉

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45. 

    Bill Tozer

    13 September 2017

    Focus groups of Dems and swing voters, internal polling, and a view from the Left:
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/13/teflon-trump-democrats-messaging-242607
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1165621516905217/?type=3&theater

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46. 

    Robert Cross

    13 September 2017

    http://campaigns.townhall.com/energy-eo-th/?utm_campaign=791098248&utm_source=adwords&utm_content=188667459824&utm_term=www.politifact.com&utm_medium=41881566660&gclid=CNPGwbW1o9YCFYS3wAodw1wPqA
    IS Trump giving the country the finger?

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47. 

    Gregory

    13 September 2017

    Adding up all the furtive “One Note Samba” announcements by Paul E announcing Trump’s continued declines, Trump is about 341% in the hole.
    In reality, Trump’s approval is about 42% by the Rasmussen daily, rattling about in the low to mid 40’s… just like I noted recently.

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48. 

    Scott Obermuller

    13 September 2017

    SacBee points out California leads the nation in folks living in poverty. Funny how the more progressive and left-ward the govt – the more folks there are in poverty. Been that way for decades. Perhaps some one from the leftie side can enlighten us as to why this is? Venezuela? Cuba? California? Worker’s Paradise. C’mon lefties – you can come up with something!

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49. 

    Paul Emery

    13 September 2017

    All time low Gregory for this stage. 14% down. What’s good about that?

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50. 

    Paul Emery

    13 September 2017

    Don
    That means I’ll keep having this much fun for the rest of my life. Haven’t had this much fun since the Repubs installed Arnold “I will fix it”Swartz in California. Another Flop

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