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[Apologies for the delay in providing fresh sand.  It is interesting to continue the discussion of the Fat Kid's threats in response to which our Left wants to go through the next cycle of appeasement, so that when another 5-7 years have gone by NK really has the capability to concurrently launch multiple missiles with survivable warheads.  The people counseling a diplomatic solution to the current 'crisis' are firing intellectual blanks – they propose nothing new and fully succumb to Einsteinian Stupidity by repeating the same thing while expecting different results.  gjr]

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  1. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Come on Paul Emery, show us all your diplomatic skills. Give us your solution rather than just your knee jerk BS.

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    Scenes 635pm – By now you should know what I believe the geo-political aims of international Left are. The reduction of the US to second world peerage is job one, and that can only be done by abrogating the Westphalian convention of sovereign nation-states that begins with porous borders, multi-culturalism (non-assimilation), and the destruction of existing forms of constitutional governance. The rest will follow naturally.
    ToddJ 832am – You didn’t look hard enough. Always go to Main and scroll down, or just type in Norm Sauer in the left panel search box. It’s one of those computer things 😉
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2017/07/california-voters-are-being-disenfranchised.html
    PaulE 927am – I believe you are grossly in error. Yes, Trump did again warn NK after NK did AGAIN threaten to launch against Guam and cited cities on the US mainland. Attempting to parrot the Left’s latest distortion on Trump is part and parcel of the continued smoke screen by the political faction that has nothing more than overt sniping to offer to the national dialogue either in domestic policies or foreign affairs. Now they are promoting again promoting Einsteinian Insanity as the solution to the NK stand-off. In short, what is YOUR point?

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 11 August 2017 at 09:54 AM
    Now they are promoting again promoting Einsteinian Insanity as the solution to the NK stand-off. In short, what is YOUR point?

    The same point he has had since the day after the election…..that he doesn’t like Trump and plans to hold his breath and turn blue until he isn’t the president any longer!
    Punch-E….teenaged girl writ large!

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Are you contending that Trump is engaging in “rational dialogue” concerning NK????
    Todd
    Just quoting your guy Trump. He is our President might I remind you.

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  5. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1052am – considering what past cycles of ‘rational dialogues’ have yielded as the produce and product of our NK relations to date, and fruitless negotiations which have brought, nay, goaded them to their now desperate attempts at nuclear theatrics to bolster the survival of their horrendous regime that has made the country into one giant Gulag with killing fields, the answer is a definite YES.

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I know Paul Emery. Simply waiting for your solution’s to this. Come on now, you have inundated us all for years of your criticisms now we ask only for your solutions.

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    If Trump gave a shit about South Korea he could at least name an ambassador. 200 days in still no SK Ambassador in sight
    “As the Doomsday Clock ticks toward thermonuclear Armageddon, relations between South Korean and the United States have taken on increased importance. United against a pudgy despot, Washington and Seoul must always know what each other is thinking.
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    But if South Korean President Moon Jae-In calls the U.S. Embassy, an ambassador won’t answer. President Trump never named one.
    “It’s a huge deal. First of all, when you think about the stakes in play over in North Korea, we absolutely need someone there who is representing us interest,” says Harry Kazianis, Director of Defense Studies at the Center for the National Interest. “This should’ve been one of the first appointments of the Trump administration. I can’t imagine why it wasn’t.”
    Disagreeing with Kazianis is difficult, and blaming anyone except Trump is impossible. While the president made sure to nominate the executive of the Los Angeles Dodgers as ambassador to France and the owner of the New York Jets as ambassador to England, he skipped over the Korean peninsula completely.’
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-never-nominated-an-ambassador-to-korea-but-thats-not-the-end-of-the-world-yet/article/2631053

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, stop with the diversion. What are your solutions to the NORK? Come on, show us your skills in diplomacy or force.

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dem news:
    1). What are they thinking? A: They don’t,
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1146737948793574/?type=3&theater
    2). Well, 5/38 get it closer than most, but close only counts in horseshoes and hand gernades. Looks mighty fine, even with a bloodbath in 2018. Mighty fine
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/10/fivethirtyeight-dems-could-lose-five-senate-seats-remain-house-minority-in-one-of-most-positive-2018-outcomes/
    3). The Democratic Sociolists’ biggest, baddest, loudest Rock Star!! Brings the house down everytime.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/901445676672322/?type=3&theater

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What is your solution Todd? Military action directly against NK would have disastrous effects although surely we would prevail. China holds the Trump card, so to speak but are they willing to talk? They know Trump is not a popular or strong leader so they can play him as they please.

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The po’ ol’ pollhead @ 1138- Approval at 45%, stronger than any of the lefty Dems who were NK enablers. Hey it was only billions and two reactors from slick willy, right? 😉

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “If Trump gave a shit about South Korea he could at least name an ambassador. 200 days in still no SK Ambassador in sight”
    I could be wrong, but the first trip both Maddog the Warrior Monk and T Rex were sent on was to South Korea, not Europe, not Africa, not Canada, not South America, not NATO, not Australia. If only Trump gave a shit…….

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish


    “If Trump gave a shit about South Korea he could at least name an ambassador. 200 days in still no SK Ambassador in sight”

    The distinctive call of the protocol droid!
    Jeez Punch…..are you ever not whining about minutia?

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  14. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, still diverting. I asked you for your solutions and all you do is stutter. Come on now. All your criticism of others must mean you have the answers. So what are they?

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don is cherry picking polls. The RCP average shows Trump at 38%, lowest in history at 200 days. Interestingly enough the IBD/TIPP poll shows Trump down by 27$ with only 32% support. They were the most accurate poll in last years election,
    “The most accurate poll that surveyed likely voters was the Investor’s Business Daily poll, a poll that has one of the finest records for calling races in recent political history. It was one of the only polls that called the race for Trump in the final days of the election, giving him 45 percent of the vote compared to Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. ”
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/19/these-pollsters-got-the-election-right-according-to-rcp/

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  16. George Rebane Avatar

    Some time ago in these pages I suggested that our first phase response to NK would be to position Aegis ships off its east coast and use the fat kid’s ICBM tests to test our own anti-missile capabilities in shooting them down during their boost phase. (I realize that Aegis was designed for countering incoming warheads, but it does also have the ability to intercept laterally moving targets.) The ramifications of this response have been aired here (e.g. what if we miss?), but such an action would be carried out over international waters and applauded by our allies. This tactic is now also being discussed by the talking heads, since it is a measured and staged response way short of putting warheads and/or troops on NK soil.
    I’m not surprised by PaulE (ably representing the Left’s role in such discussions) doing a diversionary pirouette in his 1116am.

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  17. Walt Avatar

    Missed the important poll Pauleen… Trump is up again. Yet you go back to election night?
    You pounding iodine pills already? Not good with Irish whiskey.

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 11 August 2017 at 12:27 PM
    Not good with Irish whiskey.

    Wrong…..! Everything is good with Irish whiskey!

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Walt
    Name me one major poll Trump is “up” in.

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  20. Walt Avatar

    Do your own looking. Polls are your porn of choice. If I found it, I know you can.
    Back up to 45 or so Paul.
    NO Fish!,, Not that plywood aged crap Paul drinks.

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    And Punchy solution to the Fat Guy’s verbal pollution is….is…..is…polls and pot!

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  22. Walt Avatar

    Since Paul’s ponytail is way toooo tight,,
    “The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.”
    Now how did you miss that Paul? Oh.. That’s right. It’s only bad news for Trump do you yap about.

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  23. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Walt, 45 is not “up” it’s down. 51 is “up. Have you always had math and English problems?

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  24. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, come on now. What are your solutions to the NORK? You just don’t have anything but a opinion on others. So we now see what a worthless diplomat you are. Or tell us your solutions and we might regain some of that lost respect we once may have had for your smarts.

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  25. Walt Avatar

    Back your Nevada City math? Outcome based education kicking in? Damn short memory Paul.
    Just last week the # was 35 or so. Last time I checked, “45” is greater than “35”.
    Check the label on whatever your taking.

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  26. Walt Avatar

    SH&$!!! Missed that “to”.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Thanks for explaining your numbers Walt. In that you are correct.

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    I wrote “The greatest oratorr didn’t learn from Obama who looked like an idiot after his so called redline in the sand in Syria. ” How does saying Obama looked like an idiot qualify me as being one who is “ably representing the Left’s role in such discussions)”

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  29. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 127pm – Well, you’ve fooled many of us on these pages with your constant anti-Trump drizzle that dun him from his poll standings to discrediting him for doing something original that might work with NK after all these generations. Your astounding call that 45% approval rating is still down after months of daily quoting how much the man has dropped in the last week, etc – that itself is mind-boggling, but then you are good at it 😉
    Sure would like to hear you answer what you would consider to be Trump’s proper response to the Fat Kid.

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George Nothoing “astounding” about my reaction to the 45% Rasmussen number. In perspective he is still down nearly 19 % in aggregate polls and an astounding 27% in IPP which was the most accurate in the last election and the previous two elections before. Trying to put a smiley on Trumps poll numbers is a fools errand.
    What I have been saying is emulating Obama’s tact in Syria is making Trump look like a fool since it opens the door for NK to taunt his and do nothing but talk to make him look bad and do nothing,
    I think you’re idea to do target practice on missle tests is brilliant. Too bad Trump didn’t have such mental resources. The latest “mutter one threat” will be challenged within days and Trump will do nothing so where will that leave him?
    Fish, explain to me why the issue of not having a SK Ambassador in sight 200 days into his term is minutia?

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  31. Walt Avatar

    OH nice try Paul.
    “What I have been saying is emulating Obama’s tact in Syria is making Trump look like a fool since it opens the door for NK to taunt his and do nothing but talk to make him look bad and do nothing”
    I see you forgot that Trump DID do something in the sandbox. Chem weapons? Remember those?
    Forget the missile strike to put Assad on notice? (they seem to have got the message)
    Fatboy has yet to really do anything except shoot off his mouth, so there is nothing Trump can really do at this point except wait and see.
    Just who is doing the “taunting”? Trump has been saying “IF you do “X” a shitstome comith”
    The real fool is you at this point.

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery will be the next draft pick of the “Dodgers”. Let’s hear your solutions fr NORK or just shut up about those who have. You are a phony-baloney. And if you have nothing, then say so.

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 11 August 2017 at 02:05 PM
    Fish, explain to me why the issue of not having a SK Ambassador in sight 200 days into his term is minutia?

    First off Punch we know that the democrats (and frankly more than a few republicans) are arm twisting in order to slow walk all the presidential appointments. Second the position of Ambassador is so important, so vital, so absolutely crucial to the diplomatic efforts of the United States that they are routinely awarded to political flaks and big donors in gratitude for getting the latest mouth breathing idiot installed in the Oval Office.
    Spare me yet another afternoon of Punch-E style pearl clutching!

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  34. Walt Avatar

    One more from the history books.
    The North Korean problem would have been taken care of in the 1950’s had Democrat President Harry S. Truman not fired Five Star General Douglas MacArthur.
    Dems started the Vietnam war too, and didn’t finish the job, so the Left is 0 and 2 in the fighting dept. But batting 1000 at tail tucking and running.
    Bubba could have had OBL’s head given to him on a plate, but refused. So one could say Clinton allowed 911 to happen. But he did blow up an aspirin factory while getting blown.
    We had to go back to the Gulf because the whining LIBS refused to allow Bush to finish the job the first time. ” OH MYYYyyyy. There are dead people on the roads for all to see!!”
    “WE gotta stop the killing by Bush! ” Yup,, that worked out swell. Saddam uses chem weapons on his own people.
    So when it comes to protecting the free world, NEVER ask a Liberal to do it. Need an example again? I give you “O”. You know,, the guy with the piss yellow streak down his spine.

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  35. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punch-E 12:52
    Paul, for that interpretation to hold and for you to keep a semblance of integrity, you’ll have to wait until Trump to drop below 38% approval (the number on 2 Aug, nine days ago, to again claim he’s “down”. Will you be able to hold your glee if he drops half-way to there tomorrow?
    That’s what I thought.
    Yes, he’s back up to 45% approval by the Rasmussen daily poll of likely voters, and down to 53% disapproval.

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  36. Walt Avatar

    Hay Fish.. Let me help ya’ out here.
    http://thehill.com/policy/international/311197-donors-get-19-top-jobs-at-embassies
    You know how the Paul gets,,,,,.
    Hay Paul… Read it.. Some real “quality diplomat material”… Right?
    But bitch about Trump.

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Walt
    All Trump did was make a couple of potholes in an obscure airbase in Syria that were quickly repaired and back in service in no time.
    “Syrian warplanes took off from the air base hit by US cruise missiles yesterday to carry out bombing raids on rebel-held areas, in a defiant show of strength.
    Just hours after the al-Shayrat airfield was bombed with 59 US Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from warships in the Mediterranean, aircraft struck targets in the eastern Homs countryside, according to a monitoring group……it is thought that an advance warning given by the US to Russia allowed Syria enough time to remove many of its aircraft before the raid.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/08/syrian-warplanes-take-air-base-bombed-us-tomahawks/

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  38. Walt Avatar

    Trump “sent a message” Paul. Have you heard of any more movement or use of chem weapons since? Looks like the universal language of BOOM!! was well understood. Fatboy missed that memo.
    Trump is a man of action, while your everyday politician does nothing but talk. You know,, like “O”.. The guy you voted for.

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Which was a man of action too Walt especially in Iraq. Look what that brought us.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh, I remember Punch-E all upset when Trump struck Syria without his pre-approval and warning. Why, why, why, why. My answer was the element of surprise, something that sticks in the back of an adversaries mind.
    Perhaps it was not about chemical weapons in and off themselves. Maybe a line in the sand. You crossed it, you get rapid response. No bluffs. Thus, it was sending a powerful message that we are just crazy enough to mean what we say.
    But, the firing of missiles into Syria brought forth much fruit (Intel) that I am more in interested in for future use than blowing up a few buildings in reghead land. Not all 59(?) Tomahawk Missles made it through the Russian placed defensive batteries. Maybe half were shot down, maybe 29, maybe less, maybe. These anti-missle/anti aircraft defensive batteries are the new generation of Russian made weapons, the exact same ones now placed in Iran.
    Remember Turkey shooting down the Russian jet flying over a far flung narrow finger of its terrority? Russians jets flew over that narrow finger many times, but suddenly Turkey fired at one and brought it down. After a couple of days of harsh words between Turkey and Russia, the whole incident was up in some file and buried. Not a perp since. Well, that is how the elitist pundits saw it.
    I saw it differently. Turkey would have never shot down the Russian fighter without approval of NATO, aka, the US. Never. The US had never seen the 4th generation of Russian anti-aircraft systems in operations before. After the jet incident, the Soviet Military immediately moved its new babies into the region. Bingo! They fell for the ploy. Now we can buzz them and find out exactly what those babies can do, what there capabilities are. You know, what Saddam has, what Iran has, what our enemies have. The bombing of some chemical weapon storage depots far away from any populated areas should us what those Russian babies can to.
    So, two things happened when we pot holed a runway. (I assume the reader is well aware that Tomahawk Missles are not designed to take out runways like cluster bombs and other munitions are.) Nay, they take out buildings, but I digress.
    First, we will do what we say we will IF we chose to, if a line is crossed. We will take action or inaction at our timing, our terms, when we want. We decided, nobody else decides when, where, what for us.
    Second, now we know more of the capabilities of the 4th generation Russian defensive batteries.
    It’s never as simple as black and white, yes or no. There are many components to the moving part.

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Redo
    Bush was a man of action too Walt especially in Iraq. Look what that brought us

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  42. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: The Paul@3:57PM
    Exactly right. Which makes the tendency for Green Libertarians to give the 17 intelligence agencies the keys to the kingdom somewhat of a mystery to me.
    We live in funny times. The newswarriors want to go to war with Russia and the GEOTUS wants to prod Kim a little bit. Who is right?
    This last is a funny thing really. Do you let the North Koreans get away with things in perpetuity? at what time do you stop? The longer you let the situation fester (like monetary policy) the worse it will be when everything breaks down, or you can hope that the Eternal Leader of Juche Korea gets hit on the head by a general and you deal with a junta instead of a crazy dude. Nuclear weapons make a state a major player regardless of their economic or physical size.

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Trump talks military option in Venezuela Good grief

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  44. Walt Avatar

    No Paul.. What it shows is LIBS know how to lose wars. They turn and run.
    I’m done teaching you history. Talk’n to your enemy gets you nowhere.
    The world is never going to sit down and sing kumbaya, in a big drum circle. That may only happen when the space invaders show up looking for galactic ethnic food.
    Hippies will be the first to go. ( for a good buzz before beaming up the fat ones.)

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  45. Walt Avatar

    Venez.? But Socialism is working so well there. Don’t fret Paul. It will be for humanitarian reasons. You know,, what people with feelings for others do to protect the innocent.
    BTW.. How is that “free Tibet” idea working out? Talk and bumper stickers are cheap.

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Walt we sure did win in a Iraq Under both Bush’s How about Iran Contra That was a winner Oh yeah Vietnam Nixon sure won that war. Here is one that we won. Grenada. Way to go Reagan Korean War That sure was a winner under Eisenhower
    Republicans sure won the war in Afghanistan
    Yeah the Republicans really know how to how to win a war.

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  48. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, what are your solutions to the Nork issues? You seem to criticize everyone else so give it your best shot. But as we see you are a chicken sh** and clueless.
    Venezuela is like Santa Domingo under LBJ. He sent in the Marines to stabilize the place if you recall. Could be the same issue.

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