[Many apologies for having closed the 12feb17 sandbox without opening a new one – I really did mean to do that instantly, but somehow it fell through the crack with all the other debates going on below my subsequent posts. Mea culpa. That said, all I ask is that if there's a recent topical post on a given subject/issue, then please enter your relevant comments into its comment stream. Much grass. gjr]

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335 responses to “Sandbox – 16feb17”
PaulE 312pm – I’ll have to vote that your hyperbole and choice of words was indeed more fake news for the day. “…and the Russians were responsible for it, and your people were on the phone with Russia on the same day (the hacking) was happening”. Really, any evidence whatsoever for that? And stipulate the positive, so fu@!ing what!?
Also check out the fake news on ICE “roundups” on ‘Ruminations – 17feb17’.
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The democrat media machine is desperately ignoring the utter failure of todays ‘general strike’. The snowflake brigade must be preoccupied with the latest update of candy crush. I was wondering who was going to show up at the American version of socialist European general strikes. It seems the idea of a general strike went over as big as a haggis party with the snowflakes. A dozen here, no one there, couldn’t even get the paid dem anarchists out. The European socialist at least know how to throw a strike. The dems protester class must have burned through Soros’s feb. check already.
I wonder what our resident news man, PE thinks caused the utter failure of the so called ‘nation wide’ event? ๐
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โFor pundits on the Left, the idea that conservatives can judge the presidency issue by issue is completely unacceptable. As important as attacking Trump is, depicting conservatives as fellow travelers who enable fascism confirms every preconceived notion they harbor about the Right.โ โDavid Harsanyi
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The Clintons are the gift that keeps on giving.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/17/chinese-ambassador-requested-meeting-with-top-clinton-campaign-aides/
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From the always entertaining Instapundit….
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/betsy-devos-is-now-being-guarded-by-us-marshals/2017/02/17/7dc341f4-f54b-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html?utm_term=.00906d30f62c
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George writes 5:29: “Really, any evidence whatsoever for that?
George, those were the words of Sheppard Smith, Fox News Anchor. I included that quote to illustrate that Trump has virtually no support from ANY media even Fox. For your reading enjoyment I’ll reprint Smith words here:
” Itโs crazy what weโre watching every day. Itโs absolutely crazy. He keeps repeating ridiculous throwaway lines that are not true at all and sort of avoiding this issue of Russia as if weโre some kind of fools for asking the question. Really? Your opposition was hacked, and the Russians were responsible for it, and your people were on the phone with Russia on the same day it was happening, and weโre fools for asking the questions?
No, sir. Weโre not fools for asking these questions. And we demand to know the answer to this question. You owe this to the American people. Your supporters will support you either way. If your people were on the phone with her, what were they saying? We have a right to know. We absolutely do.
And that you call us โfake newsโ and put us down like children for asking these questions on behalf of the American people is inconsequential. The people deserve that answer at very least.”
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PaulE 1203pm – ShepardS is not Moses with the tablets, and his erroneous statements claiming that concurrency demonstrates it. In fact, because ShepardS has now declared his true colors as a virtual MSNBC plant on FN, there is a rising groundswell to have him replaced with a true news anchor for the midday broadcast instead of the leftwing editorializer that he is. But that is a different story.
This is not evidence of anything other than the words came out of ShepardS’s mouth.
http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/shepard-smith-fox-news-donald-trump-1201990555/
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Hey poll head PE, what do they call it when you keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome? So that’s what 8 times you sling that drama queen shep as proof? He has always hated the President my poor ol’ poll head PE. Sad.
Here is one to make a poll heads head explode. The swing demographic, independent voters view the President as more truthful than the press by a margin of 2 to 1. OUCH! ๐
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Two party system:
https://i.redd.it/eaup3ovajmgy.png
They probably need to add the CIA, Saudi Arabia, and the Green Libertarians to the list on the right.
Honestly, they look evenly matched.
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Scenes. Yep.
Heard the Chess Player looked out from behind the curtail as the press were lining up for the “Labor Secretary Announcement” press conference, smiled, and said, “The Wall of Opposition has lined up.
With the Dems all in pieces strewn all about, the MSM is the opposition. I am going to stop focusing on the Leftist Alt-Left for awhile since everything they try to do blows up in their faces. Everything backfires on them and no use paying them much mind until they get all stitched up and sewn back together.
“Mr. President, the Wall of Opposition is ready for you, sir”
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Well, lookie here. Another lib lawyer who does not know the law. If you impeach both Trump and Pence, that would automatically make Ryan president, duh.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sallykohn/status/831871003412295682
Oh course Sally said that when she got all jacked up like a local guitarman three days ago cause they had been pounding on Trump, had him on the ropes, then pounded on him until he was on his last legs and all the sharks smelled blood in the water. It was a feeding frenzy!
Today, Sally’s twitter feed is devoted to home remedies for children’s colds.
What goes up must come down.
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George
I may be wrong but wasn’t Sheb Smith the Fox newscaster that you once applauded for his “fair and balanced ” coverage as part of broadcasting News and not Rush spinoff blabbing as in the later hours (Hannity etc).
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Poor ol’ poll head PE may be wrong, whoda thunk. Provide the link PE @ 128, if you can. ๐
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Shep is the resident lib at FOX. Always known by everyone.
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So Trump cant find anyone to replace Flynn to head the NSA. My guess is that something very stinky is about to plop on Trump from foreign shores and they know that he us likely to be blackmailed by the Rushkies because of what they and others know about Trump.
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When you are being routed from the debate field, change the subject, FAST! Straight from the poll heads democrat press partners hand book. ๐
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BillT@1:26.
They could work their way down the line:
1 Vice President Mike Pence (R)
2 Speaker of the House of Representatives Paul Ryan (R)
3 President pro tempore of the Senate Orrin Hatch (R)
4 Secretary of State Rex Tillerson (R)
5 Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin (R)
6 Secretary of Defense James Mattis (I)
7 Attorney General Jeff Sessions (R)
I rather like the idea of a President Sessions.
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So General McCaffrey joins the choir about turmoil in the Trump White House
“Appearing on MSNBC, retired Gen. Barry McCaffery said the Trump administration is having difficulties replacing ousted National Security Adviser Mike Flynn because likely candidates are looking at a โdisorganizedโ White House and have no desire to destroy their careers.
McCaffrey addressed the fact the former Gen. David Petraeus had withdrawn his name for consideration two days after Vice Adm. Robert Harward opted out after seeing President Trumpโs widely derided press conference.Asked to comment, McCaffrey first pointed out that many likely candidates wouldnโt be considered because they had previously criticized Trump.
โI think part of the problem is the intellectual heavyweights of the defense community and the Republican Party all denounced the president during the campaign, so the pickings are sort of slim,โ McCaffrey explained.
โThe problem is the acrimonious nature, the disorganization inside the White House and for that matter, with among the government, is so profound that a lot of good people who are are going to be hesitant to risk their career for public service,โ he warned.
Asked about the fact that former Sen. Dan Coats (R-IN) has yet to be confirmed as Director of National Intelligence, McCaffery didnโt see that happening.
โWell, Iโm โ I would not be unsurprised to see Senator Coats withdraw his name,โ McCaffery replied. โThere was a lot of talk about putting in other unqualified people in the administration and in the intelligence community. โ
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So says the #nevertrumper @ PE’s 151. They did not work in the election and they don’t work now. Poor ol’ poll head. ๐
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Amazing that the Left completely overlooks (here and elsewhere) the real problems with our intelligence services which is their lack of confidentiality, which should be and is job one at all the world’s intelligence agencies. Ours leaks classified information like a sieve, and no one in the lamestream or of the Left gives a big rat’s ass about that. All are focused on the next thing that can be shoved into the gears of the Trump administration. Talk about concern for national security and patriotism.
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So Bessee let me get this straight. You give mo meaning to the fact that Trump is historically low by a large margin in the aggregate of Polls on the Presidents handling of his job in their first month in office?
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I see my old cohort Mike Lee is on the PCWA and this Board as well. I think we did not join it way back and for what reason I have forgotten. County of Origon is the tie that binds. My guess is the radical lefty eco-nuts want to crash the place.
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Why, why, why? Says the poor ol’ poll head PE. ๐
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Crickets:
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1030078733792830/?type=3&theater
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George
My guess is that the leaks are coming from inside the White House by those who would like to bring Trump down. Much like the rebellion among Repubs that took out Nixon. It will just take a simple connection between the Trump campaign and the Rushkies before the elections to rock the ship sending Trump looking for a life raft that may not be offered to him.
Speaking of leaks what is your view of Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers that outed the illegal war Nixon was waging in Cambodia.
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Looks like Paul had not looked at the new polls from Fivethirtyeight. Come on Paul, keep up with the times. Oh yeah, the leaks are coming from theShadow Govetnment, not the White House. Some from Foggy Bottom as well.
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@ 215- Shouldn’t there be a question mark at the end of the question that is the last line there newsman? ๐
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Bill
I went to 538 to look for polls and couldn’t find any. Can you send a link? For aggregate polls I go to RCP Polls and Polling Reports.com Between them they seem to present all major polls in a compact format. Here are links
http://pollingreport.com/trump.htm
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
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Sorry Paul, here is the link.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wvj_fUM8n_w
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Sorry
Bill you can’t produce a link to back up your Bullshit.
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Thanks Don for the correction. Here it is again. Wanna go give it a try to express your opinion?
Speaking of leaks, what is your view of Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers that outed the illegal war Nixon was waging in Cambodia?
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Why, why, why? cried the poor ol’ poll head who cant stay on topic. ๐
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He is such a great plaything. Paul, watch your language, please.
Man, what a great speech. Everytime Trump speaks, I feel good and better about our country.
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Posted by: Bill Tozer | 18 February 2017 at 03:05 PM
Sorry Paul, here is the link.
That was pretty rude Bill….
Here’s the real link!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfr64zoBTAQ
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Gosh Bill that had nothing to do with polling. Are you having a problem with simple computer skills?
Meanshile todays Trump Mouth lie has to do with what he claimed happened in Sweden. The mouth spouts
In defending his executive order banning Islamic refugees and travelers from 7 Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S., Trump said, โWhen you look at whatโs happening in Germany, when you look at whatโs happening last night in Sweden โ Sweden! Who would believe this? Sweden!โ
However, there was no terror attack in Sweden on Friday. Another lie.
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Sweden’s Islamic colonists were covered last night on Tucker Carlson. Swedes are being terrorized daily by Muslims who now live in insular communities like those in France into which Swedish law enforcement dare not enter. The Swedish government is still in drastic denial about all this while its citizens and the people surrounding Sweden know exactly what is happening. That is what our president had the courage to point out, and what no progressive has made a peep about over these past years.
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Sweden? You mean the rape capital of Europe. They neutered the Swedish men and gov’t forbade them from protecting their fine womenfolk and they would lose their apartments if they talked about it.
Gosh, what a bunch of misogynists.
https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/02/melania-lords-prayer/
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How professional democrat tool of you PE, fake news just like the big boys! ๐
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Anybody feel like stepping forward to help Bill learn how to Google polls on Nate silvers site? He tried a while ago but failed miserably I thought someone might step forward to help him learn how to do such complicated things
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Betsy DeVos’ s brother wants to build a private Chinese army to protect the oligarchs there – oh, what a tangled web we weave…
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/betsy-devoss-brother-is-setting-up-a-private-army-for-china?utm_term=.njEYm0BOD#.phOy87Prz
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Well why should only the Americans get to have all that plausibly deniable mercenary fun Brad?
Mercenaries Are the Silent Majority of Obama’s Military | Foreign Policy
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/18/private-contractors-are-the-silent-majority-of-obamas-military-mercenaries-iraq-afghanistan/
America’s Addiction to Mercenaries – The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/08/iraq-afghanistan-contractor-pentagon-obama/495731/
Contractors Ready To Cash In On ISIS War
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/13/contractors-ready-to-cash-in-on-isis-war.html
I’m guessing this kind of thing <really bugged you during Bush the Latters administration, faded to insignificance during the reign of Barry the First, and re-entered your consciousness about the time you connected the dots between the DeVos family and Erik Prince.
Fortuitous timing there Brad.
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Lanny Davis, Podesta, Conyers…..they are all there.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/02/18/no-one-mentions-that-the-russian-trail-leads-to-democratic-lobbyists/#1187f6e064f2
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Devoss is a cool mercenary. Love the movie “The Wild Geese” with Richard Burton. And those Hessians that worked for King George. All cool guys.
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So George in your view there was no particular incident that inspired trumps statement. But rather a news rant on late night fox ( not to be confused with a newscast ) that inspired him to say ” what happened last night in Sweden
My oh my George That’s kind of a stretch I’m surprised you used such a week justification for trumps lies
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PaulE 1058am – I’m glad you’re entertained. But I am heartened that Trump is America’s first political leader that is calling out the EUs idiotic migrant and immigration policies welcoming Muslims who despise their hosts and consider them all enemies of Islam. Their actions, not covered by news sources accessed by you and yours, are suppressed by local governments, and citizens who speak out against the ongoing outrages are liable to be prosecuted for racism and hate crimes. A truly batshit state of affairs, that our political leaders should recognize and speak out against, especially when it comes to maintaining our own national security.
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Maybe Paul Emery could take a few Syrians into his teepee? Then after a while issue a report on the effort.
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George
can you give me a couple of “news sources” that have covered the story? Doesn’t seem to pop up in Fox.
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PaulE 1249pm – don’t know what to say about your research prowess. Just for openers –
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/11/26/swedes-reach-muslim-breaking-point.html
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/23/sweden-opened-its-doors-to-muslim-immigration-today-its-the-rape-capital-of-the-west-japan-didnt/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/12103667/Suddenly-the-Swedes-are-talking-about-their-refugee-problem.html
http://www.dailywire.com/news/12466/how-muslim-migration-made-malmo-sweden-crime-michael-qazvini#exit-modal
How many more of you are out there who haven’t a clue about what Muslims are doing in/to Europe? Millions?
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Dr. R, it seems to be willful ignorance on the part of our poor ol’ poll head PE. ๐
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Dr. Rebane @ 1:06 pm Not the answer he was seeking. Try it again Paul until you hear Trump lied.
Remember, Paul’s sole purpose is to poke Trump and Trumpsters, Resist!, and maybe an inadvertent replace or two into BDS. Oh yeah, daily polls.
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