277 responses to “Sandbox – 28jan17”

1. 

   Walt

   28 January 2017

   Thank Dr. for the fresh kitty litter. Let me start this new show on the local level.
   Now that free ECO bucks to fight a plan to reopen a rich gold deposit right here will be harder to come by, chances are better our Idaho Maryland Mine can bring jobs, GOOD jobs, back here.
   The mines here didn’t close because the gold played out. Thank the FED government for that. One, they fixed the price of gold, and two, only war metals were to be extracted.
   Like togston. So when the war was over, the GOV. left us high and dry, and out of work.
   Then the ECO pricks showed up and killed of the logging industry.

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   Bill Tozer

   28 January 2017

   In regard to Dr. Rebane’s introduction to the fresh Sandbox, this quote puts it perspective.
   “Success is never final; failure is never fatal; the only thing that counts is courage.
   I have always looked at Trump and our counterrevolution to the Altl-left’s ongoing Revolution as merely slowing it down by throwing a couple roadblocks in the way. I still think the overall trajectory is toward Statism, Stalinism, Maoism, or Islamofacism.
   With that said, another quote:
   “To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth. — Teddy Roosevelt
   Locally, the Great Divide is alive and well. The progressive snowflakes promise us that their liberal Mayberry RFD will be solid Blue in two years. Mark the tape!
   https://www.facebook.com/heytommychong/photos/a.513018068713311.134328.195315420483579/1589163037765470/?type=3&theater

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   Gregory

   28 January 2017

   “To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth”. — Teddy Roosevelt
   This looked fishy to me; after all, that Roosevelt was a “Progressive” before it became a euphemism for democratic Socialist.
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_(United_States,_1912)#/media/File:TR-Chemist-1912.JPG
   Snopes got it right this time: FALSE.
   http://www.snopes.com/teddy-roosevelt-anger-a-liberal-quote/

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   Walt

   28 January 2017

   We all have heard that LIBS with full diapers wants Ca. to become it’s own country.
   With that said, if it does, LIBS will never win another election nationally. Just say’n.
   On another note, Gov. Moonbat has declared war on the Trump Admin. Good luck with that.
   So Jerry and his kids is looking for ways NOT to send money to the FED Gov. That loos lie a fight they will lose. But it will be fun to watch. Calif. officials getting hauled away in cuffs on FED charges. Lets set up the bleachers on the West lawn of the state capital, and sell tickets.

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   Bill Tozer

   28 January 2017

   Gregory
   Good one. Tells me my gut is working cause I wanted to delete the Teddy Roosevelt from the copy and paste, but I hit post too quickly. Told myself to, but noooo. The first quote I did take the time to research back to a dentist in 1912 or so, with parts of it dating back further. Churchill and Buckley quoted the first quote, all or in part. All that to say I got lazy on the second quote and hit send. Did not sound like Teddy to put things as left/right. Agreed. Still, the TR quote stands on its merit, regardless on the source, as our running dialogues with those stuck on stupid….er…stuck in the bubble with testify.

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6. 

   Todd Juvinall

   28 January 2017

   Looks like a Federal Judge has issued a stay on Trump’s immigation EO. Aw those Judges,

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7. 

   Walt

   28 January 2017

   Todd. To be fair,, these people had valid visas.

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   Todd Juvinall

   28 January 2017

   Well OK, if they are legal then I have no problem.
   Just finished watching the CSPAN telecast of the people debating for the DNC Chair. My goodness, we are going to own the politics of America if any of those fools gets elected.

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   Bill Tozer

   28 January 2017

   Walt, I hope CA splits off. I will gladly move on. We have something like 12% of the population and 30% of the entire nation’s welfare recipients. They can have their liberal playground. Heard Brown is raising the gas tax again, this time 42% to cover…..drumroll please….pension shortages. One of these days a gas tax will go for fixing the roads. With CA’s expansion of Medi-Cal, CA will have to pay 100% of the costs instead of the current 90%. When they split off into the ocean. Opps, CA Medi-Cal budget is already in the hole a billion this year. That is with the 15 billion Uncle Sam already paid for the year.
   CA welcomes illegals with open arms. We see the guy out working here as a painter or landscaper. That’s cool. But, what about his wife and baby waiting at home drawing food stamps and entitlements? Let’ CA breakoff and reimburse the Feds for their share of building our freeways before driving on them. Oh, Californians will need a VISA to visit Tahoe National Park or Reno. Best built a wall around the former state to keep all the rift-raff out. It’s for National Security.
   We have idiots running this state. Remember, only 3 more years until we have to meet our 1990 carbon footprint.
   http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/infrastructure-lessons-from-the-california-high-speed-rail-fiasco/article/2612379

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10. 

    Don Bessee

    28 January 2017

    Todd 620- Which federal district? I would be interested in the legal theory since the law on this is clearly in the Presidents powers. 😉

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11. 

    Don Bessee

    28 January 2017

    Walt 624- A visa issued by 0 without proper vetting still does not cut it from a national security standpoint. They should have listened to what the Prez said and reacted accordingly. They knew it was going to change after the inauguration. It does not pay to bet against the President. 😉

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12. 

    Walt

    28 January 2017

    “IF” Ca. does break away, and continues to allow anyone to vote unchecked, watch how fast Ca. becomes part of Mexico. Mexico has always wanted this real estate back.
    I’m sure the rest of the nation will allow the State of Jefferson to stay. The only sane part of the state.

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13. 

    Todd Juvinall

    28 January 2017

    Don 635, don’t know. Heard it on FOX, Judge Jeanine.
    Oh and the DNCers running fr chair. One very large gal, African American, a FOX contributor for the last seven years said all those other FOX people were liars. I wonder if she will be booted or promoted? You cannot make this stuff up.

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14. 

    Walt

    28 January 2017

    Well Don,, those papers are still valid, or did I miss something?

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15. 

    Don Bessee

    28 January 2017

    The federal judge from the eastern district of NY who was appointed by 0 last year agrees with you Walt. It is a narrow stay only applying to the visa holders. It does nothing to the rest of the immigrations executive order. You can bet DOJ or Homeland lawyers are already shopping for a venue to file their appeal that has a high likelihood of winning. 😉

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16. 

    Walt

    28 January 2017

    Where did Paul go? Emergency drum circle?

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17. 

    Don Bessee

    28 January 2017

    PE has nothing new left from his talking points for lefties to offer anymore or there is druid orgy tonight? The visa stay only applies to the ones on the ground in the US today, so in reality its just a handful, 2 in NY I believe. 😉

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18. 

    Paul Emery

    28 January 2017

    George
    It was well discussed on this blog that Trump does not represent tne Republican party but a 3rd Party movement. I believe that it was Bill that led that discussion so yes, Trump does represent the end of the Republican party as we have known it .
    Re Don 3:19 When I referred to a movement to the blue in Nevada County that I have never seen before I’ll use as examples the 60-40 defeat of Measure W, the landslide win of Heidi Hall over a respectable and qualified candidate Duane Strauser, the
    Win of Clinton over Trump in Nevada County and the win of Measure 64.

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19. 

    Paul Emery

    28 January 2017

    Does this entry ban from the 7 countries also include Christian refuges ?

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20. 

    Don Bessee

    28 January 2017

    Thanks for making my point @ 659 PE. 😉

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21. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    28 January 2017

    “Does this entry ban from the 7 countries also include Christian refuges ?”
    I believe so, not that it makes much difference to them. From Newsweek:
    “But the numbers tell a different story: The United States has accepted 10,801 Syrian refugees, of whom 56 are Christian. Not 56 percent; 56 total, out of 10,801. That is to say, one-half of 1 percent. The BBC says that 10 percent of all Syrians are Christian, which would mean 2.2 million Christians.”
    On a related note:
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/26/canada-inching-towards-islamophobia-law/

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22. 

    Paul Emery

    28 January 2017

    What was your point Don?

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23. 

    Paul Emery

    28 January 2017

    Is it this?
    “That’s funny PE, looks like the same old same old in NC”
    Might I remind you that District1hadNateBeeson for the last 12 years. Nate is hardly a blue.

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24. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    28 January 2017

    A pretty good essay.
    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/01/james-f-on-hatred-in-our-divided-nation-anger-at-flyover-country.html

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25. 

    Don Bessee

    28 January 2017

    HI PE! You still need fresh material my friend. ==== Now this is not a joke– The taxi cab drivers of NY have declared a strike to show solidarity with the immigration protesters. Uber stock up in overseas trading. 😉

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26. 

    Paul Emery

    28 January 2017

    Don
    I know it’s a little hard for you but since we were talking about the Idaho-Maryland Mine there is little doubt that the future looks grim due to the blueness of Nevada County.

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    Paul Emery

    28 January 2017

    And oh yeah Don Nevada City will soon have medical marijuana dispensaries with the planning commission voting 4-0 to recommend to the City Council. It will be a slam dunk for the Council. Grass Valley is likely to follow.
    http://www.theunion.com/news/commission-approves-medical-pot-dispensary-ordinance/

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28. 

    George Rebane

    28 January 2017

    PaulE 728pm – Ah yes, onto that big stack of Republican demise predictions we now add the latest. Is there a word in the King’s English that means ‘infinite hubris’?

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29. 

    Walt

    28 January 2017

    Paul ain’t as libertarian as he claims. True Progy Blue. Pro stoner, and anti economic progress, with a dose of “by any means necessary” (lie through the teeth) to accomplish that end. He gives the State of Jefferson backers crap, yet now sounds pro Calif. session
    for the new state of Prog. The Kalif. can take in all the Muslims and illegals from the four corners of the globe it wants. That should work out swell.

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30. 

    Todd Juvinall

    28 January 2017

    Hey remember the limo that was burned to a crisp during the lib riots last week? Well it belonged to a muslim democrat! $70,000. Yu cannot make this stuff up!
    Paul Emery is not reliable when it comes to predictions. He was all about defeating Trump. And look how that turned out.

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    Paul Emery

    28 January 2017

    George
    I was just following Bills lead on that one(third party). You didn’t respond to him about his view so I assumed you concurred with him.. The is no doubt as to the direction Nev County is heading. The conversation was relevant because of the mine discussion.

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32. 

    Paul Emery

    28 January 2017

    I sure called it locally Todd. You were whiffed in Nevada County. that’s my main interest anyway.
    Walt
    I’ve always given the State of Jefferson their due. Show me one time I spoke against the effort. Ask my friend Eddie Garcia about that.

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33. 

    Todd Juvinall

    28 January 2017

    Paul Emery say what? You got one lib elected over a fellow democrat. Not one R ran for District One. I say you are really dreaming. And you were relentless here on Trump so that ios a lie too. We have three on the BOS, a majority on GV’s council, most of the other fire, school and NID are R’s. I’d ay your summation was as accurate as your Trump defeat prediction. And if you are so concerned locally, why wqere you absent at the Dollar General hearing.

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34. 

    Walt

    28 January 2017

    I’m sure the new mine owners have war plans in the works to deal with the Paulites, and local wildlife.
    Buy the time the games begin, the state will be so broke because of their defiance and FED law breaking, any new taxables will be more than appreciated.
    Now to wait and see what the “tough love” will turn out to be by the Trump Admin.

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35. 

    Todd Juvinall

    28 January 2017

    Here is the link to the story on the hold on the EO from Trump on immigration. I wonder who appointed the Judge?
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-01-28-23-02-13

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36. 

    Bill Tozer

    28 January 2017

    Paul @ 7:37 pm
    As far as I can tell, yes on the ban applying to all from the 7 countries, including one Christian being held.
    All from the 7 countries, including those with green cards and Visas trying to enter. There are exceptions for NATO employees, foreign gov’t personnel, UN personnel, and those vital to our national security interests. Far as I can tell, there are about 200 in question who were in flight or boarded a flight after the temporary moratorium was imposed. Some foreign airports did not get the word or started rejecting those boarding planes from the 7 named countries hours after the ban. Thus the confusion.
    Those here before the temp ban do not have to leave. A glitch in the plan, affecting those caught between one door open and another door closing. To repeat, this temp ban applies to all non US citizens from 7 countries, including those of all faiths and those who have no faith. Country of origin is the operating phrase.

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37. 

    Paul Emery

    28 January 2017

    Oh yeah
    Trump has fallen in the Gallup daily tracking polls from even to -8 in six days. A very bad week for him. In the same poll Obama ended up +22 in his final poll. This is the most consistent poll in history and has been going daily since Kennedy.
    http://www.pollingreport.com/djt_job1.htm

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38. 

    fish

    28 January 2017

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 January 2017 at 09:38 PM
    Wow……with numbers like that I’m sure that your election “do over” is fair accompli.
    Nice.

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39. 

    fish

    28 January 2017

    fait ……

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40. 

    Bill Tozer

    28 January 2017

    From Todd’s 9:21pm
    “Under Trump’s order, it had appeared that an untold number of foreign-born U.S. residents now traveling outside the U.S. could be stuck overseas for at least 90 days even though they held permanent residency “green cards” or other visas. However, an official with the Department of Homeland Security said Saturday night that no green-card holders from the seven countries cited in Trump’s order had been prevented from entering the U.S”
    Well, I am confused now about green card holders. Just those with Visas? Think I will wait a couple of days for more clarity.
    Why don’t the refugees go to Germany? It’s closer. Looks like there is some confusion among Germany’s new refugees as well.
    http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.3632/i-have-come-to-stay-forever-not-to-work.html

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41. 

    Gregory

    28 January 2017

    “This is the most consistent poll in history” Paul Emery
    That sounds like BS to me. Evidence?
    Perhaps it’s consistently wrong, or consistently “Progressive”?

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42. 

    Don Bessee

    28 January 2017

    OH NO! PE says President Trump is trailing in the polls. How long have we had to listen to that faux news from PE? God love ya PE, I feel your pain. 😉

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43. 

    Gregory

    29 January 2017

    I was thrown by the web site with the info… here it is from the horses mouth
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx
    Rasmussen doesn’t agree… RCP identifies Rasmussen as a likely voters poll, and the Gallup as all respondents.
    Obama had an opposition wanting a united country and also a friendly press; Trump has an opposition (including the press) who want a do-over. Now.
    4 years is the wait, kids. Elections have consequences.

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    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    29 January 2017

    Some infill about the visa EO.
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/28/epic-is-team-trump-baiting-liberal-media-and-refugee-protesters-by-using-obamas-own-policy/

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45. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    29 January 2017

    And the Fakenews marches on.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/media-freakout-epa-standard-practice-called-a-gag-order-by-reporters/article/2613184

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46. 

    George Rebane

    29 January 2017

    PaulE 906pm – a little application of reason quickly shows that anyone starting a third party does not mean that an existing party then automatically folds its tent as stated in your 728pm. And whether Trump winds up starting a third party or not is a totally separate discussion. I consider it a highly unlikely event, but a discussion of its harbingers would be of interest.
    Finally, my thoughts on our political landscape populated by more than two dominant parties is well documented in these pages and hashed over even more.

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47. 

    Walt

    29 January 2017

    This should work out SO well.
    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/01/27/california-could-cut-off-feds-in-response-to-trump-threats/

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48. 

    Bill Tozer

    29 January 2017

    Glancing at the morning news, it is clear that the Left is screaming out to do something! They want a leader and they want something done now. Today. Stop the madman! They appear leaderless and lost hope. Too many articles to choose from, you here is a sample.
    Desperate times call for desperate measures. Notice no policy discussed, just PE’s playlist.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-r-jacobson/the-world-cant-afford-pre_b_14465614.html?ref=yfp
    Do something!
    http://www.inc.com/erik-sherman/democratic-national-committee-asks-a-question-on-twitter-immediately-regrets-it.html?ref=yfp
    Stop him!
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2017/01/29/the-left-wages-war-on-donald-trump-its-godzilla/#627e6d741afb
    I agree with Bill Mayer on this one.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-maher-says-pc-culture-163338484.html
    And on and on it goes. Who would of thunk that they are loving on Paul Ryan as their last great hope to stop the madman. Paul Ryan and John McCain are the new saviors of the world. Interesting times.

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49. 

    Todd Juvinall

    29 January 2017

    The SacBee has a article on gerrymandering today in the main section. I wonder where in our Constitution is says a state has to clear the issue with the Feds? I guess it must be in there somewhere? Anyway, the story did say both parties are under scrutiny. But I thought State’s Rights were in force. They say all these R victories must be from a gerrymandered plan.

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50. 

    Bill Tozer

    29 January 2017

    Scenes: word for word. Difference between talking about Draining the Swamp and doing it.
    http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/512201631/trumps-executive-order-on-ethics-pulls-word-for-word-from-obama-clinton

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