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Sandbox – 1jan17

01 January 2017

[Again a Happy New Year to all RR readers and its diligent band of commenters of all political shades who do their dharma battles on these pages. This year promises to be even more exciting than 2016 – who knew that Trump would win? – if one can conceive that possibility. Last New Year’s day I opened a new sandbox with these words.

Happy New Year! to all RR readers. This year will turn out more exciting and surprising than any of us can anticipate. From the socialists' perspective, they are at the cusp of a victory from which they can deal a deathblow to American capitalism and institute their new economic order as part of the country's fundamental transformation that Obama promised and has already launched. We conservatarians also see this as a cusp year, but given the disarray of the Republicans, it will be one from which a 2016 Democrat defeat will deliver little besides delaying the day of reckoning between collectivism and open markets capitalism. So I thought it would be appropriate to start the year with a fresh sandbox. gjr]

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186 responses to “Sandbox – 1jan17”

Gregory

02 January 2017

Paul, the only reason you keep trying to play the race card is that you’ve lost the argument over someone being asked to leave private property for cause.
Changing the subject is tantamount to a surrender.

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Gregory

02 January 2017

P.T. Barnum was no carnival barker, Paul. An impresario of the first order.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Lind_tour_of_America,_1850%E2%80%9352
He packaged and sold entertainment. Like what you try to do, only bigger and more successful.
A Congressman, too.

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Gregory

02 January 2017

Paul, can you discuss issues like an adult?

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Walt

02 January 2017

Paul. Getting one’s ass tossed out isn’t discrimination.
Face it. you lost this one.

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George Rebane

02 January 2017

PaulE 211pm – when your establishment is designed for spontaneous consumption and obviously opened to the public, Rebane Doctrine calls for it to accept and serve all who walk in – no separate entrances or seating areas for the Estonian born. But here comes the rub for even accepting that; at what point does the owner get to impose ‘No shirts, no shoes, no service.’? The gray area between race and bare feet spans oceans once you start dicking with private property. I admit the Left knows all the answers here, but I don’t. What I do know is that the Bastiat Triangle (q.v.) is inviolable, you can’t screw with one without weakening the other two.

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Walt

02 January 2017

OK ,, on Paul’s “subject” (oh this is good) should this establishment have called the cops?
Maybe I found out what happened to “jon”.
7:13 p.m. — A caller from a restaurant in the 500 block of Mill Street reported a suspicious individual talking to his tacos and repeatedly entering and reentering the store. The subject, a skinny white male with black hair riding a razer scooter with large wheels, also spent more than an hour in the restroom.
Whatya think Paul? That was a lot of time in the restroom with those tacos.
Discrimination against taco “lovers”?

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Bill Tozer

02 January 2017

A member’s only club is different than going to a diner like Denny’s, duh.
Ok, forget brievty. Sorry.
I was twice dined and whined at the Friar’s Club in Beverly Hills on the house. Could I ever get in with a ton of cash? No. I was an invited guest, despite the doorman’s obvious disgust that he had to allow a person like me in.
Once stood outside a club in LA. They would not let me in. No collared shirt and not with the beautiful people. I went back to my temp home, changed my clothes, grabbed my neighbor (a former Playboy Bunny but then a single mom on welfare) and her drop dead gorgeous cousin who happened to want to come along. Stood back outside the club and that dude from Starski and Hutch (David Soul ?) was in front of me. The bouncer came out, waved me in with a gorgeous “beautiful people” on each of my arms from the middle of the line, and leaving the actor and his date behind, lol.
Been inside the Black Only Candy Club as an invited guest. The dude sitting on the couch next to me happened to be someone named Smokey Robinson, but I did not recognize him or care. Then Ali stopped in and sat down. Members only, they set the rules, not me. I behaved myself and got many a glare.
I will stop here. Too much info. But, that was when drugs and booze still worked, lol
Why do bars like Mc Gees have bouncers or doormen? Well, they used to back in the day, don’t know if they still do. Why? It’s open to the public, right? Dress codes? Behavior rules? No dirtbags, right?
Nothing to go with race, creed or religion. If I act like a dirtbag, then I will get kicked out of the Bonzaza Market or the Miner’s Foundary….or even thrown out of the dent can store.
Civil rights? Only if you are civil. Comparing a private golf course to Denny’s? I am not surprised.

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

Hurt being tossed for b ad behavior doesn’t hold up according to Hurts account of the encounter with Trump that led to his being kicked out. This is Hurts account.
“In an interview on CNN’s “New Day,” Hurt said he had seen Trump while playing the course about a year and a half earlier — and that Trump had joked about Hurt’s knickers.
He said in 2007 or 2008, Trump clipped his review of nearby Emerald Dunes and hand-wrote a note to Hurt saying the Trump International course “was much better. You should come play.” That, he said, led him to believe Trump had no hurt feelings resulting from the 23-year-old book.
Hurt said he approached Trump on the golf course Friday “out of courtesy” as Hurt’s foursome — including Republican mega-donor David Koch — got set to start its round. He said he’s not sure what changed Friday.
“Donald will continue to exhibit the erratic behavior he has exhibited his entire life,” Hurt said.
Hurt first said Trump kicked him off the golf course in a post on his Facebook page Saturday.
“Hurt, who has a scratch handicap and plays in colorful knickers, walked over to Trump on the practice range prior to his group’s assigned tee time, only to suffer a tongue lashing from the President-elect,” read the post.
Hurt said he shook Trump’s hand and offered his congratulations, a gesture he said wasn’t reciprocated by the President-elect.
“Trump said, ‘You were rough on me, Harry. Really rough. That s— you wrote,’ ” read the Facebook post.

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

LINK
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/01/politics/donald-trump-biographer-golf-course/

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Gregory

02 January 2017

Are you really that naive, Paul? “out of courtesy”?

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

more-No reports of bad behavior on Hurts part. Just Trump being Trump
“According to one of David Koch’s associates who was briefed on the incident and spoke with Politico, Hurt only went up to Trump as a courtesy. Koch is a member of Trump’s golf club, and when Hurt, a longtime golfing buddy, offered to leave the group after the Trump incident so they could keep playing, Koch replied, “No, we came as a foursome and we’ll leave as a foursome.”
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/report-trump-kicked-critical-biographer-off-his-golf-course.html

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

Gregory
Show me one account of bad behavior on Hurts part and I’ll listen to you.

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Scott Obermuller

02 January 2017

This is going to be a swell 4 years. Keep it up, Paul. We need to be kept up to date with every little tittle-tattle about Trump. This whole expose’ sounds like the kind of thing 12 year girls would gossip about between classes in Jr High.

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Gregory

02 January 2017

Paul, you never listen anyway. If Trump was as bad as you want him to be, you’d not be relying on stunts like this for “news”.
Hurt wrote in the 3rd person in his facebook screed. Who does that?
Bad behavior is not cluing in your golf buddies, before you go off to confront the President-Elect, that you know you aren’t in Trump’s good graces in the first place.

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Walt

02 January 2017

You? Listen?? That will be the day.
Lets see.. write a trash peace about Trump, and then expect a welcome handshake?
LOL!!!
kind of like some jerk who tagged your house with derogatory crap, then gladly hiring the same ass to repaint over it.

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

Gregory
According to Hurt he was invited to play at the course by Trump during an earlier encounter
“He said in 2007 or 2008, Trump clipped his review of nearby Emerald Dunes and hand-wrote a note to Hurt saying the Trump International course “was much better. You should come play.” That, he said, led him to believe Trump had no hurt feelings resulting from the 23-year-old book.”

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Scott Obermuller

02 January 2017

This has been brought up on George’s blog before, and it’s an interesting topic going into an era of reduced employment opportunities for those with little or no marketable skills and/or a low level of activity proclivity (laziness).
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/02/news/economy/finland-universal-basic-income/index.html
Notice that in this test, the participants already are on the dole. So, it’s really not a true test as it would be applied to a new crop of youngsters raised on this life-time promise.

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

Scott
this is a recent account of the character of our President Elect. Pretty news worthy if you ask me and an insight as to how he might react to others whom he is personally offended by. Certainly a graphic example of a very petty and immature person.

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Walt

02 January 2017

Seems Paul is more butt-hurt than Hurt is today. Paul has been prodding in every direction about this today, just to get shut down.
Nevermind a good portion of Calif. residents have their 2ND Amendment rights infringed upon. How come the “new guy” Paul isn’t raising a stink about that? You know, “gunmageddon?” But Paul’s beef is that some LIB got run off private property.

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

George
It was this blog that made a feature of Hillary’s personal traits and temper tantrums so is it not fair game to use the same focus on Trump?

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Gregory

02 January 2017

Paul, it’s classic Fake News, it fits your narrative and isn’t corroborated.

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Walt

02 January 2017

Here it comes. “we” were picking on poor Hillary. a frail senior citizen,and a woman non the less. How dare we discuss her destruction of gov. property, and “evidence”.

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fish

02 January 2017

Posted by: Paul Emery | 02 January 2017 at 01:18 PM
Giving Trump unfavorable reviews does not make me a Democrat Fish. You can do better than that…
No but claiming to be a libertarian and voting for Obama with all that comes with that gives one pause! Calling for socialiized medicine weakens your argument further. Crap…..as a libertarian you think you might give Trump the benefit of the doubt until you actually see how he governs instead of being perpetually butthurt because “the politician” lost. Nobody has any doubts how personal liberty would have fared under another Clinton. Somehow I doubt you would be flinging the same insults if Hillary had won….there would be some tongue clucking and some chin pulling but I think you would have been fine with her…..the senator from Goldman Sachs.
The only personal freedom aspect that I see in your “libertarianism” argument is that you’re in favor of marijuana consumption.

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stevenfrisch

02 January 2017

“Hurt wrote in the 3rd person in his facebook screed. Who does that?”–Greg Goodknight
Well, um, Trump does that 🙂

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Gregory

02 January 2017

fish 447 that is the “Let’s Party” wing of the LP but I must admit, Paul has fewer other libertarian attributes than others I’ve known.

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Gregory

02 January 2017

frisch 451
Not as often as Pelline does.
BTW congrats to Rahm for a really stellar murder rate in Chicago. Something to be proud of.

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George Rebane

02 January 2017

PaulE 433pm – If that’s the kind of dialogue you want, go for it. But I recall that the commenters here took Hillary to task for her demonstrated incompetence, lies, and more specific criminal behaviors which the AG didn’t pursue due to prosecutorial discretion.

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Scott Obermuller

02 January 2017

Wow- Paul is really on to something. This little dust up proves Trump won’t let any one who annoys him to play golf with him at his golf course. The implications are endless.
To Paul, anyway.
Obama lied constantly to the American public, but I can’t remember Paul ever saying this had anything to do with his ability to lead the free world.
As I said, this will be an interesting 4 years – maybe 8, who knows?
Meanwhile China is now threatening Taiwan with war and Obozo plays golf.
Please Paul – some of us are paying attention to the kinds of things that get thousands (or millions) killed.
But you have fun.
Cheers!

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Bill Tozer

02 January 2017

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/01/civil-discourse-didnt-die-it-was-murdered-by-the-left/

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Walt

02 January 2017

Now,, the OTHER side of the story.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/02/kickng-money-out-of-politics-trump-boots-koch-brother-from-golf-course/
” Koch’s guest: Harry Hurt III, who authored the 1993 book, Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump, which stated Ivana Trump accused her ex-husband of “raping” her in a sworn deposition during their divorce.”
Yup, something like that would tend to piss someone off.

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Bill Tozer

02 January 2017

Think this shocking non- event…er….uge story would be better if Trump beat the stew out of the guy then shit down his throat. That would be something, but alas, it was not meant to be.
Good job Mr. Trump. Next time kick him the nuts and then bitch slap him around for fun and for free. Carry on, Mr. President-elect. Never forget what the snobs said about your daddy, Mr. President-elect of the United States of America.

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stevenfrisch

02 January 2017

“BTW congrats to Rahm for a really stellar murder rate in Chicago. Something to be proud of.”
Hey Gregory, where did you grow up? Just curious because I want to be able to hold you accountable for the conditions of your native home 37 years after you left to make your way in life 🙂

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

Gregory
Fale News? Are you denying the incident happened?

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

Fake News…

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fish

02 January 2017

Posted by: Gregory | 02 January 2017 at 05:03 PM
I understand that there is no libertarian purity test and Paul gets to identify himself politically however he likes. I just think he looks rather ridiculous busting out Obama poll numbers every other day and essentially behaving like…well….like a democrat!
Obama was a horror from a personal liberty standpoint….and it’s not just me saying it! What’s libertarian about anything he did?

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

Fish
I’m just reporting the polls and noting that Trump is starting out with the lowest approval ratings in recorded history for an incoming President. Obama is the highest in 20 years for leaving office. There is a bit of irony in that wouldn’t you say?

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Walt

02 January 2017

OK Frich, happy with the gun laws us law abiding citizens are now saddled with?
We are over halfway to your old digs in that regard.
Those anti gun laws are working just fine “back there”… Right?

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fish

02 January 2017

Posted by: Paul Emery | 02 January 2017 at 05:33 PM
If Obamas poll numbers help you get through the day then go ahead and revel in them. Maybe there is an “I Luv Obama” (in fact I’m sure of it) Facebook page where you can can interact with your fellow Obama fans and do victory lap after victory lap until your legs are plain tuckered out!
From a libertarian perspective Obama was/is every bit as bad as your favorite whipping boy George W. Bush.

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Todd Juvinall

02 January 2017

Paul Emery, the reason Obama has high numbers (in your opinion) is simple., The people are happy he is leaving. Simple. As far as Trump. He has up up up open t him. Maybe you should wait and see.

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Todd Juvinall

02 January 2017

Chicago should be flooded with Natural Guard men to quell this violence. Simple.

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Bill Tozer

02 January 2017

Polls. Everybody is afraid to tell the pollsters what they think in fear of being labeled a racist. See the popularity polls? Obama wins again, but only 23% this time for the Most Admired Man in America. Lowest ever for Obama since 08.. Last year Trump was 4%, this year 17%. Trend lines evident for both.
Well, when you are that low in the gutter, the only place to go is up. Or, if you are surrounded, you can fire in any direction and hit something. Always a silver lining.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=91YS3fNegmE
Them silly pranksters are something else. Men after Paul’s own heart.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/01/us/hollywood-hollyweed-sign/index.html?sr=fbcnni010117hollywood-hollyweed-sign/0605PMStoryLink&linkId=32923911

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

Fish
About the same for different reasons. Both had disastrous foreign policy AS for pure before and after looks Bush was far worse than Obama. No comparison to the economy in 2000 and 2008 and 2008-2016 under Obama. Obama wins the good speech but little else award and credit card abuse credos. Bush wins endless unfunded wars honors and Obama takes the really bad health care solution honors. I could go on but you get the idea.

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Walt

02 January 2017

Look who has a bad case of the “dems”. (It’s not my fault.)
http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/01/dick-clark-productions-calls-mariah-defamatory/#disqus_thread

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Gregory

02 January 2017

Frisch, you can take the boy out of Chicago but you can’t take Chicago out of the boy.
I’m a native Californian.
Tozer, yes, everyone likes Obama personally, when asked. Yet the Democratic Party has tanked with him at the helm which the national media never quite noticed until the dust settled on Nov 9.

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fish

02 January 2017

Posted by: Paul Emery | 02 January 2017 at 05:49 PM
Both had disastrous foreign policy AS for pure before and after looks Bush was far worse than Obama.
Interesting sentence structure aside Bush’s Iraq adventure was the greatest foreign policy blunder in US history! Followed by 5 or 6 equally stupid but smaller in magnitude blunders by Obama (and his corrupt little no talent minion Hillary)! Regardless of who is the bigger idiot Obama leaves a more dangerous world than Bush did
No comparison to the economy in 2000 and 2008 and 2008-2016 under Obama.
Again…..doubling the national debt from 10 to 20 trillion gave the Obama economy a sugar high that’s going to really hurt bad to come down from. I imagine the democrats are licking their chops thinking of way to blame the president elect.
Bush wins endless unfunded wars honors and Obama takes the really bad health care solution honors.
Bushes Medicare part D and ObamaCare both bad. The coercive aspect of Obamacare makes it worse in my eyes…..Roberts is an idiot!

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Walt

02 January 2017

2017 starts out with a bang. Paul’s chick isn’t free and clear yet.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/02/federal-appeals-court-reinstates-clinton-email-lawsuits/
Looks like the game goes into overtime.
I will hold up my end of the bet (BBQ for all) if she gets perp-walked. (just a legit pic. of her in jail orange will do)

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Russ

02 January 2017

Immigration without assimilation is invasion
Stealth Invasion: Muslim Conquest Through Immigration and Resettlement Jihad.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1944229582/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1944229582&linkCode=as2&tag=drhelenblog-20&linkId=a3a9a4ce75fb1093dec410d4077d23f8

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Bill Tozer

02 January 2017

Lest I forget: Hillary is once again the Most Admired Woman in America or the World by Americans for like the 25th year in a row. Everybody is afraid to be called a woman hater or misogynistic if they don’t tell the pollsters those two…er…three magic words: Hillary Rodham Clinton. My Gal is something else. I still fantasize seeing her in a torquise tutu holding a pink poddle donning horn rimmed glasses and a bonnet.
Wonder what those polls say, by inference, about the state of the rest of the women folk today…but I digress.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kVWdRsq-v2g

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Paul Emery

02 January 2017

Bill writes
“story would be better if Trump beat the stew out of the guy then shit down his throat. That would be something, but alas, it was not meant to be.
Good job Mr. Trump. Next time kick him the nuts and then bitch slap him around for fun and for free.”
Bill,I didn’t know you were a biker. They are the only guys I know that can write poetry like that.
That’s really classy and I’m sure it’s appreciated by the hoards of readers George claims read his blog.

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Walt

02 January 2017

Remember this Russ? “Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding.” “O” would be more than happy to make the U.S. a Muslim nation. Hence importing them as fast as he can.
The bastards demanded “tribute payments” from us.( extortion is more like it.)
Hence the part in the Marine Corp. hymn about “the shores of Tripoli”.

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