123 responses to “Sandbox – 27dec16”

1. 

   Paul Emery

   28 December 2016

   Gregory
   Let me ask you this about the Russian interference in our elections allegations. Do you thinkthere is enough concern to have a full investigation into the mater?

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   Bill Tozer

   28 December 2016

   Fun: Let’s project and make predictions. I chose C for #5, 7, and 8 at first glance.
   http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/12/29/judge-napolitano-20-question-about-2017-for-office-pool.html

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   Scott Obermuller

   28 December 2016

   I see that Paul has decided to bypass any actual proof that the Russians caused any disruption in American politics and wants to know about an investigation.
   The fact is that the CIA won’t provide any evidence to back up their claim.
   Paul is mute on that point.
   As always.
   Answer this Paul: how can we have a full investigation of a ‘thing’ when there is no evidence that the ‘thing’ even exists?
   Paul is mute.

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   Bill Tozer

   28 December 2016

   The biggest ones float to the top. Steve’s buddies. It’s all out the money
   http://dailysignal.com/2016/12/28/the-california-gathering-that-hatched-plan-to-prosecute-skeptics-of-climate-change/

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5. 

   Gregory

   29 December 2016

   Paul 558
   Would you please summarize the evidence that gives you such concern in the matter. You know, that who what where why when stuff that I asked you about before.

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6. 

   George Rebane

   29 December 2016

   ScottO 1011pm – Right now the entire Russian interference affair is at a ‘she said he said’ level. That Obama believes the Russians interfered should mean next to nothing since he is one of the biggest documented National Liars. Given that, I would be surprised if it isn’t part of Russia’s policy to hack into every significant server and digital storage facility in the world. We most certainly have been doing it forever. Should we investigate? Well yes, but that can and should be done as a routine task under our cyber warfare program, and not as a public federal case. PaulE can do no better than to attempt to blow up a little dust devil in these pages.

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   George Rebane

   29 December 2016

   Received an email from our Designated Reader this morning that reports Union columnist Hilary Hodge is “going to stand up to our local deplorables in 2017” but apparently can’t get anyone to give a big rat’s asset. She is “begging” local leftwingers to respond to her call to “drown out hate” (aka anything she disagrees with) with comments. It seems the whole problem arises because more reasonable voices in the community “allow” non-progressive sentiments to be expressed in blogs and the local media.

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   Bill Tozer

   29 December 2016

   https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-12-29/u-s-hits-russian-officials-with-sanctions-over-election-hacks
   Meanwhile, Putn and Turkey and Iran are brokering a ceasefire in Syria. With Kerry and Zerobama locked out, this might hold more than 48 hours.
   https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-29/putin-says-syria-cease-fire-accord-reached-russia-to-cut-troops

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   Russ

   29 December 2016

   George@11:24AM
   Checking the time stamps on comments following the latest Hodge column at the Union and there has been a liberal rush to support the author, with 8 comments added today. Time for some more conservative counter arguments on lost innocence.

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    George Rebane

    29 December 2016

    Russ 1138am – Comment wars about Hodges’ hodgepodge columns? Right now I’m busy looking for my ‘I’m sorry, but you have me confused with someone who gives a crap’ button. While the lady has every right to be heard, I wish her columns would find a more appropriate environment in the Personal Reflections and Emotional Traumas section of the paper.
    Now where did I put that button?

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11. 

    Gregory

    29 December 2016

    Hodge is afflicted with the Progressive disease that deludes the sufferer into being convinced that folks who don’t share their opinions are either evil or ignorant. The first step towards recovery is understanding their own failings and approaching the subject with a bit more humility and respect for others.
    Those of us who had a part in actually creating the Internet thank you for using it, but just having access to the information is only the start; it still takes some self control study to actually learn, rather than just marvel at the words, pictures and sounds flying by. In other words, any good library already has enough information to keep most people learning for an entire lifetime, including Ms. Hodge.

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12. 

    Gregory

    29 December 2016

    Catching up at Nevada City Fat’s blog, I see that even Judith Lowry has become too right wing for Jeff’s liking.
    Judith, you are in good company.

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    Bill Tozer

    29 December 2016

    I always admired and respected Judith’s independence of thought. And her reasonableness. Here is a long video I posted under Hilary’s column. No, it’s not 2 hours long and it’s from 2004 after W beat Kerry. It’s about independent thought, conservatives and minorities, about 30 minutes long. I think Gregory will like parts of it, I assume Judith will too. Maybe Fish and Brad C. By the former head of the LA chapter of Now, among other accomplishments. Interesting. Relevant in 2016, post election.
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?184396-1/conservative-ideas-minorities
    For those who have some time to kill…..

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    Gregory

    29 December 2016

    BT, reading the speech to text transcript devoid of punctuation or proper capitalization led me to sections that were unassailable… yes, the ability to take one’s opponent seriously is key to real debate, and it’s the left who are reactionarily dismissive of anyone who disagrees with them.
    Anyone dismissive of the Right as “pubbers” is suffering from delusions of superiority.
    It’s also no coincidence that Rebane, IMO far more conservative than libertarian, hosts the most open blog in the County.
    Scott Adams of Dilbert fame also talks about all the death threats he got after he endorsed Trump that stopped as soon as he pretended to change his mind and be a Clinton supporter. Someone on her side should slap Ms. Hodge silly, metaphorically speaking, of course… it’s her people that are selling real hate. It was the Clinton campaign who were hiring modern Brownshirts to make trouble in the streets.

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15. 

    fish

    29 December 2016

    Why do so many really fat men look like menopausal women?
    

    “… if your head is still spinning from that mindf***, or you can’t quite believe a malignant narcissist will now sit in the Oval Office, or if you are simply still working your way through the 17 stages of grief, then I am here to say to you, ‘There’s no crying in TrumpLand — Let’s get to work!’”

    One complaint with Mikes analysis……“or you can’t quite believe another malignant narcissist will now sit in the Oval Office”.
    FTFY fat bastard!
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-29/michael-moore-urges-civil-disobedience-trumps-inauguration-warns-its-going-be-lot-wo

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16. 

    Bill Tozer

    29 December 2016

    Gregory @ 2:17 pm
    Not sure if I follow you exactly, but it’s all good. The part of the group think, the group identity, the inability to grow individually and think for yourself outside the group identity is what I picked up….the ole individual potential and thus responsibility (conservative for lack of a better term) as opposed to not being able/forbidden to go past the group identity (today’s liberalism) is what I got out of it. The first 10 minutes was just background credentials to set the stage, IMHO.
    Either way, almost all my favorite authors are people like Tammy Bruce who somehow found their way out of tribal identity to develop as a whole person. See you guys been busy today with the Russian thang. 🙂

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17. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    29 December 2016

    https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/814595691779592192

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18. 

    Don Bessee

    29 December 2016

    BT @ 547 – Having fun with PE on the Russian thang a dang dang. 😉

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    Bill Tozer

    29 December 2016

    Change of topic briefly…….Charles let his humor slip out again.
    http://therightscoop.com/krauthammer-trump-turn-un-trump-condos/
    It is amazing to me that such a tiny speck of land has consumed some many US Presidents and our best forgein policy efforts to “solve the problem” for so many years with such little to show for it.
    It is even more amazing to me that tiny tiny tiny Israel with no natural resources in her countryside has developed into a modern technological advanced democracy in unheard of record time…. in barren wasteland.
    Also fascinating is the fact that any Arab in Israel has more freedoms and rights than any other Arab has in the entire Muslim world.
    Puzzling to me is with all the land mass that is contained in the Arab world, none have developed the thriving advanced society, technological advances, or diverse economy that matches tiny Israel. Sure, Lebanon once bragged about Beirut, the Paris of the Mediterranean, but then the PLO moved in and the place went to the dogs.
    The whole Israel story is fairly unique in the annuals of recorded history. Every country in history has been invaded at one time or another or been the invader. With all the blending of cultures and tribes, the taking of slaves and being enslaved, the Hebrew language is the only language that remains intact (unaltered) from its earliest known roots.
    I find it amazing, but that is just me…and I am not Jewish.
    https://www.facebook.com/ForAmerica/photos/a.119506304774403.17273.114364638621903/1418044778253876/?type=3&theater
    Ok, back to the Chinese and their devasting hacks costing us billions upon billions…er…strike that….back to Russian and their GDP about the same as California and the hacks that cost Hillary’s Establishment 1.5 billion.

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20. 

    Todd Juvinall

    29 December 2016

    BillT are you picking on Hillary? Bigboy is outraged. What a hoot!

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21. 

    Bill Tozer

    30 December 2016

    Todd, what? . No name calling, just some points of disagreements and one suggestion to seek comfort with nice piece of cheesecake.. Some people took Castro’s death rather hard. I did like it when the vehicle carrying the corpse broke down and had to be pushed to the ceremony. A fitting tribute.

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22. 

    Todd Juvinall

    30 December 2016

    Oh it is fun to see how ridiculous he is. He actually posted the comment in my 1023 and called it a name. I truly think he is a lonely person.

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23. 

    Bill Tozer

    30 December 2016

    You can’t make this stuff up. At least he clarified we are a purple county. Unpleasant is the color of Royalty. Hear that Paul. We are not a blue county, we are purple. I have it from an impeccable non-deplorable source.

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24. 

    Russ

    30 December 2016

    Ralph Peters Sums Up Obama’s Mideast Policy in Six Words
    Peters described the president’s Mideast policy in just six words: “praise Muslims, ignore Christians, blame Jews.”
    I was never a Peter’s fan, but I think he is spot on!

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25. 

    Paul Emery

    30 December 2016

    On another topic why does Trump allow such outright racists such as Carl Paladino be part of his team? Paladino iss vice chair of Trump’s New York campaign and a major fundraiser.
    ““Michelle Obama,” he wrote. “I’d like her to return to being a male and let loose in the outback of Zimbabwe where she lives comfortably in a cave with Maxie, the gorilla.”
    ““Obama catches mad cow disease after being caught having relations with a Herford,” he wrote. “He dies before his trial and is buried in a cow pasture next to Valerie Jarret, who died weeks prior, after being convicted of sedition and treason, when a Jihady cell mate mistook her for being a nice person and decapitated her.” (Valerie Jarrett, who is black, is senior adviser to Obama. She is not dead.)”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/carl-paladino-email-apology_us_58629a35e4b0d9a5945920ff

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26. 

    Gregory

    30 December 2016

    Paul, how many times are you going to repeat that?
    The election is over, the link to Paladino is already severed. No one is rushing to Paladino’s aid.
    We all realize guilt by association is all you have.

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    Paul Emery

    30 December 2016

    A racist like Paladino doesn’t just blurt something like that out Gregory. Link is severed? How do you know that? Usually someone who is vice chair of an election committee in the most populated State in the Union gets special treats. How do you know Trump isn’t returning he favor. Word is hs is a long time racist with a well established history.

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    Gregory

    30 December 2016

    What was the evidence he was a racist before that one, Paul?
    A former candidate for NY governor, his only office was on a school board, and he’s apparently been kicked out. I’ve done some googling, I can’t see any indication he’d been enough of an insider to be asked for a Trump White House interview, let alone being offered a spot… so much for them being buddies, Paul.

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    Paul Emery

    30 December 2016

    You don’t have a clue Gregory about the payback when you are vice chair of a state like new york. Do you think he did that because he thinks Trump is a swell guy? YOu are are hopelessly naive.
    I’m off the clock for a couple of days
    Happy New Year

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    Gregory

    30 December 2016

    Paul, I repeat the question you ignored:
    What was the evidence he was a racist before that one, Paul?
    NY was a non event for the Trump campaign. like California, approximately zero chance for any electoral votes. My expectation is that Paladino was a rough SOB who got a largely ceremonial position in exchange for a large campaign donation. A large wallet will always find a spot… or are you so “hopelessly naive” to not know that?

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31. 

    Don Bessee

    30 December 2016

    A going away present for PE-
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/something-about-this-russia-story-stinks-w458439
    😉

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32. 

    Gregory

    30 December 2016

    Don, don’t worry, it’s a slam dunk. Paul tells me so.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14030-2004Jun3.html
    Then there’s this one from the hit parade of 2012:
    http://www.snopes.com/obama-more-flexibility-russia/
    TRUE! He did it!
    Note for you hard right jerkwads, use snopes when they make your point for you, not Fox Snooze. Think maybe Obama was sucking up to Putin through Medvedev? Think maybe water is wet?

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33. 

    Barry Pruett

    30 December 2016

    Putin’s response to Obama’s sanctions and expulsion of diplomats…
    “We will not expel anyone. We will not prevent their families and children from using their traditional leisure sites during the New Year’s holidays. Moreover, I invite all children of U.S. diplomats accredited in Russia to the New Year and Christmas children’s parties in the Kremlin,” Putin added.
    Obama is making Russians like Putin even more than they do. We’ll never get rid of Putin with Obama playing “go fish” and Putin playing chess. Putin’s made Obama (and the USA) look small in Russians’ eyes.

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    Walt

    30 December 2016

    That didn’t take long.. Treason?, Really????
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/30/liberals-accuse-trump-of-treason/
    “Trump “raises the specter of treason” by not agreeing with claims that Russia hacked the election.”
    But not Hillary’s illegal sever, nor TOP SECRET info on Carlos Danger’s perv computer….

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    Bill Tozer

    30 December 2016

    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/989216421212395/?type=3&theater

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    Paul Emery

    30 December 2016

    Putin knows that help is on the way.
    Exxon is the one who really wants sanctions lifted duh Guess whose Sec of State
    “Exxon has turned into a collateral victim of the U.S. economic sanctions against Russia. So while supermajor BP’s chief executive Bob Dudley said earlier this week that he was “a little saddened” with the way the Deepwater Horizon movie has painted his company, Exxon’s Rex Tillerson has perhaps an even greater reason to be a little saddened.
    Exxon, the world’s biggest oil and gas company by value, entered Russia in the 1990s and has enjoyed a long and fruitful presence there. This presence was set to expand further with Exxon’s plans to take part in the exploration and exploitation of the country’s Arctic shelf. Unfortunately for Exxon, the U.S. and the EU hit Russia with sanctions over the annexation of Crimea and its support for Eastern Ukrainian rebels.”

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    Paul Emery

    30 December 2016

    Gregory
    Here’s the details that should p;lease a techie guy like you
    The FBI squarely blamed Russian intelligence services on Thursday for meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, releasing the most definitive report yet on the issue, including samples of malicious computer code said to have been used in a broad hacking campaign…..
    While the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence had said Russia was behind the hacking in October, the report is the first detailed technical analysis provided by the government and the first official FBI statement.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russian-spy-agencies-election-hack_us_58666756e4b0de3a08f7fd27?qy2amr2hldyn2q33di

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38. 

    Don Bessee

    30 December 2016

    I see your huffpo and raise you a rolling stone @325. 😉

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39. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    30 December 2016

    https://www.rt.com/usa/372219-larry-king-mcafee-cybersecurity/

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40. 

    Gregory

    30 December 2016

    Paul, you are still stuck in the same loop… the issue isn’t “did someone in Russia hack”, or how did they hack, it’s what did they do that compromised our election?
    You seemed to think it was OK to steal Trump’s tax return and make it public, as long as they didn’t change it, committing a fraud.
    The worst you seem to be charging is that the Russkies stole files with embarrassing emails showing dirty tricks by Dems against Dems and Dems against Republicans, and then they released faithful copies to the public domain. No fraud, and they weren’t doing anything that the NY Times wouldn’t have done against a Richard Nixon in the past.
    But we still have Assange and WikiLeaks being adamant that the Russians didn’t provide the files.
    That Puffington Host link sheds no new light. There’s no there there.

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41. 

    Todd Juvinall

    30 December 2016

    PE dances to his own drummer. He is not that up on things and even his use of links is not that good. He needs to move to Floriston where the other three Johnson supporters live.

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42. 

    Walt

    30 December 2016

    Paul. To quote a disgraced Progressive,, ” at this point just what difference does it make?” If it was a disgruntled staffer, or a Rusky youth? Your more pissed that the truth got out. The Left hates the truth. The rule of law means jack shit as far as the likes of “O” and Co.,,and Hillary are concerned. The truth came back to bite in spades.

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43. 

    Don Bessee

    30 December 2016

    He needs to move his tired Russian rants to the Dark Lords Liberal Lament Land so they can all get their tinfoil hats on and have a ball. 😉

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44. 

    Walt

    30 December 2016

    Paul needs to get to the bottom of this.
    http://www.ibtimes.com/us-government-attacks-drudge-report-conservative-website-down-because-distributed-2467391
    Drudge made “O” look bad, retaliation was swift. How bout it Paul? The soon to be gone LIB administration attacking Right leaning news sites. What’s worse? Someone leaking dirty LIB laundry, or pure malicious gov. attacks?

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45. 

    Gregory

    30 December 2016

    Everyone is subject to believing BS that fits their preexisting narratives. Right now, Dems are continuing on their stampede towards the only possible path that leads to a crippled Trump and they like that narrative. I expect the folks at the top think it’s BS but if it leads their useful idiots towards remaining useful, so much the better.
    Judith Lowry let go with this zinger on the purple omnivore’s blog:

    But, late breaking surprise, Obama is making moves in the news.
    Check it out.
    Fiddling with our election process through a foreign enemy power is treason, no?
    Interesting days ahead.
    Do I hear, “Lock him up, lock him up!” ?

    It takes a special kind of gullible to take the current info to believing Trump is in cahoots with Putin.
    The right wing also has their useful idiots.

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46. 

    Russ

    31 December 2016

    The real source of fake news is the main stream press:
    WASHINGTON POST STIRS FEAR AFTER FALSE REPORT OF POWER GRID HACK BY RUSSIA
    Just like their global warming stories they fall apart after close examination:
    Story quickly falls apart after investigation finds claims to be inaccurate
    http://www.infowars.com/washington-post-stirs-fear-after-false-report-of-power-grid-hack-by-russia/

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47. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    31 December 2016

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/29/politics/russia-sanctions-announced-by-white-house/index.html
    “Russia’s first visible action came later Thursday, when Russian authorities ordered the closure of the Anglo-American School of Moscow, a US official briefed on the matter said. The order from the Russian government closes the school, which serves children of US, British and Canadian embassy personnel, to US and foreign nationals.”
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/30/opinions/my-time-in-russia-marchetti-opinion/index.html
    It’s a tragedy. Think of the children.

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48. 

    Russ

    31 December 2016

    EPA has outlived its usefulness
    EPA To Alaskans In Sub-Zero Temps: Stop Burning Wood To Keep Warm
    In Alaska’s interior, where it can reach -50 degrees Fahrenheit in winter, the EPA wants people to stop burning wood. But it’s just about their only feasible way to stay warm.
    The only alternative for rural Alaskans is to leave home and move to the city or die. Rulemaking is easy when the EPA toadies live and work in a concrete building warmed by a magic device in the basement; it would be much harder if the EPA toadies lived in Alaska. Trump needs to return environmental management back to the States, closer to the lives of the people impacted by the rules.

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49. 

    Bill Tozer

    31 December 2016

    Laugh of the Week:. No commentary needed.
    “Salon even found an expert source (an NYU professor) who posited that “white chefs have more freedom to play with other people’s food than chefs of color do, which creates inherent inequality in the field.” To that, the author adds that English-speaking chefs also have outsized ability to read recipes and experiment, which is apparently an expression of privilege.”
    http://heatst.com/culture-wars/comedian-accused-of-cultural-appropriation-over-paella/

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50. 

    Todd Juvinall

    31 December 2016

    Soon they will be doing a expose’ on trash collectors. Those “white” guys have a white privilege on the rest.

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