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George Rebane

Britain’s Brexit vote marks a watershed for Ruminations.  It delivered a robust confirmation of the conservetarian tenets posted and debated in these pages for the last ten years.  And given the state of the EU and what is happening there, we can expect more to come.  As I monitored last night’s election returns on the landmark referendum before turning in, a number of thoughts crossed my mind after posting the following update to ‘Ruminations – 21jun16’.

Today’s Brexit vote underscores in spades the RR teaching that mankind neither understands nor knows the transfer function of human societies in any of its undertakings.  For the layman, a transfer function is fundamental to understanding how a system works, i.e. with what outputs it responds to inputs.  Yesterday the markets were setting new highs in expectation that the Brits would reject Brexit – the Dow was up over 230 points, crude was significantly up as gold was down.  This evening at this writing the Dow futures are down 600 points, crude is down 5.66%, gold is up 4.66%.  And our double dufus divisions of central planners understand none of this as they continue to prescribe ever more one-size-fits-all national policies for America led by our fearless community organizer who has learned not one discernible thing about governance in his two terms in the White House.

Today we are witness to decades of socialism’s advance in the west, and capitalism’s advance in the east.  We have seen the demise of one great religion in Europe and the resurgence of another one in its underbelly.  The west has fought one form of collectivist repression to a standstill, and then refused to recognize the rise of a more virulent form that daily demonstrates its intent to continue the conquest of the world promised by its prophets a millennium ago.


All during this time the west’s collectivists of many hues have also promised and planned a unified global society and government that would rule us all.  The leading edges of these two prevalent ideologies now collide in Europe with the migration of millions of Muslim colonists swarming northward across borders of what once were sovereign nation-states before they joined the European Union.  The colonizing of Europe by hordes of demanding ingrates fleeing their own repressive societies and failed economies has birthed populist and nationalist counter movements all across the continent, and even here in America.

With the launch of the much debated Brexit we see that people worldwide do cherish their own cultures and do want secure lands where they can speak their own language, practice and pass on their traditions, educate their children, and live according to their shared values and beliefs.   And in so doing they want to live in homelands where they themselves can direct and pace the inevitable changes that all cultures undergo.  These people do not want to live their lives according to multitudes of malformed mandates that require permissions sought from distant rulers and planners.

Today there are enough people in Britain to recognize the reality of the European state and their growing limits within that communion – a day before, Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European Commission assured the British that their ongoing appeals for more self-determination would go unanswered in Brussels.  The EU’s central government had already determined that Britain had sufficient freedoms, thank you.

So now nationalist movements in France, Spain, Netherlands, and Sweden that demand more local control are drawing a second wind from the Brexit vote and are planning referenda for, you guessed it, their own Frexits, Sexits, Nexits, Swexits.  It appears that globalism has been refuted, at least for the present, and that the Westphalian world order of sovereign nation-states will be extended, at least for now.

But while many of us celebrate this break-up, and see in it a resurgent spirit of self-determination and desire for more limited and local government, yet all is not well.  The British vote was 51.9% Leave and 48.1% Remain.  That means that the nation is still fairly divided with almost half of its citizens (subjects?) disappointed in the outcome, half of its citizens still yearn for an even closer union with an increasingly amalgamated continental Europe, half the people are tolerant with the dictates of Brussels.  In sum, this referendum defined and exposed yet another country of two minds.  Now we see the more socialist Europe begin to stir and begin to experience its own ideological Great Divide.  And we also note the evidence that such a division is not unique to some backward and benighted segment of the United States as many of our progressives continue to assure us.

But the referendum also exposed a years-long tenet maintained in these pages – polls and markets can be dreadfully wrong.  Only yesterday as the Brits went to cast their votes, the polls were telling relieved markets that Remain would be victorious.  During the day markets hit new highs in anticipation.  A prominent British pollster unabashedly released its poll with such a prediction just as voting ended last night.  And then exactly the opposite happened.

This again illustrates how difficult it is to centrally plan large economies and forge one-size-fits-all public policies for large societies.  How can any of this kind of governance work when one cannot predict with any reliability the impacts your finely tuned mandates will have?  Today Roger Altman (Deputy SecTreas under Clinton) highlights in ‘The End of Economic Forecasting’ what many of us have reported over the years.  The more governments attempt to corral money the more that money will roil the financial markets as it seeks to maximize available return.  And the result as summarized by Altman is that “the dominance of finance has made economic volatility the new normal” – i.e. essentially unpredictable, especially by academics, pundits, and bureaucrats who have not gotten their own hands dirty chasing the filthy lucre.

However, none of that makes no never mind to the millions of lemmings who believe that the more distant their ruling elites, the more assured they are of being provided with a contented and socially just life.  These millions still yearn for a state that gives them everything for which they are willing to trade their freedoms.  In the end they might wind up with three meals and a stacked packed rack.  Nothing in today’s movements for preservation of culture and self-determination will change these willing wards of the state.

It is for that reason that I see a future where the people who want to retain liberty, security, and property in their own hands will seek to separate themselves from the collective dictates of the ever-dependent.  No one knows exactly what means different peoples will use in their attempts to secure such a future other than that their means and methods will vary depending on culture and resources.  But you can bet the ranch that at least half of us will not go quietly into that dismal world so well revealed in the now much denied protocols and prescriptions that the United Nations laid down in its agenda for the 21st century.  Therefore, with some modesty I can again declare that the Rebane Doctrine lives.

[25jun16 update]  The lamestream laments Brexit.   Over the last couple of days the liberal media has gone into dirge mode on Britain’s decision to leave the EU.  The propaganda faucets have been turned on full blast.  Were they a religious bunch, their message could be summarized by ‘Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.’  You see, the considered wisdom on those outlets is that Brexit was just the stupid response of Britain’s double dummies who really don’t understand things like transnationalism and global commerce.

In none of these reports was there a mention of Brussels’ growth and overreach, and the impact those policies have on EU’s member states.  In Britain their vaunted NHS is coming apart at the seams which is most apparent to people outside of the big cities where new healthcare rationing policies have the greatest impact – complaints are rampant that people can’t get timely appointments for their medical needs, the waiting times are becoming unconscionable for an all-caring nanny state.  Migrants pouring into metropolitan areas need more services, even if these too have to be more severely rationed.

Meanwhile, the Pope is getting full press coverage as he prays at Armenian genocide memorials telling the Lord that “I dream of a Europe where being a migrant is not a crime.”  The message from the lamestream is loud and consistent, ‘Globalism über alles.’

So now the EU leadership and the Brussels bureaucrats have their undies in a knot about how to treat the exiting British.  Should they proceed at a dignified pace making things easy for both sides by knitting up the better parts of the former relationship with regard to commerce, mobility, and defense?   Or should they instead make the break “swift and punishing”?

Easing Britain out with minimal pain may well induce other nations edging for the door to accelerate their own plans to regain their sovereignty.  But illuminating and bringing to bear the full brunt of the EU leviathan will confirm that Europe’s member states are fast becoming fiefdoms of their liege lords in Brussels, if they are not already existential fiefs enjoying their last of pre-enlightenment bliss.  What to do, what to do?

Here in America – including in these pages – the message from our liberals is that any and all notions of self-determination that may include new forms of jurisdictions and governance arise only from minds muddled and mired in ignorance.

RLCrabb_Globalism

[Just had to filch this wonderful cartoon from Bro Bob Crabb’s blog – another picture worth a thousand words.]

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169 responses to “Brexit Reflections (updated 25jun16)”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Dozer, the people have spoken. Please do as Obama is doing and respect the will of the people. The people…..you know, the ones you always rail against. Sure, it sucks to be on the wrong side of history again. Time for you to catch up and keep up with the times. Guess we will all have to wait until you racist misognists all die off so process can continue is march into the future.
    Come on Dozer, but down the slice of pie smothered with Kahlua and Hot Sake and join the progress. Yes, even rusty zipper types such as you are welcomed aboard the train to glory. It’s gets cold outside in those back alleyways of the mean streets lying in your own vomit and urine. Our big tent is big enough to even encompass you, my dear pathetic friend in need.

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon Dozer | 25 June 2016 at 10:17 PM
    Still obsessing over “millennials” or what ever they’re called in Europe?
    Creepy……

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  3. Russ Steele Avatar

    Peter Hitchens in the Daily Mail:
    The Remainers’ snobbery was their undoing. They believed they were superior to their fellow countrymen and women, when they were just luckier and richer. Judging from their response to the referendum result, many of them still do.
    For instance, they refused to be aware of the quiet seething resentment about mass migration that I found in Boston four summers ago. The established parties ignored this, and the liberal thought police tried to claim it was bigotry.
    But it was real, and this was reflected on Thursday night in a 77.27 per cent turnout and a 75.5 percent vote to leave in that town. I do not see how these people could be clearer about their discontent over the enforced transformation of their lives. I am amazed at their patience. I strongly advise against ignoring them any longer.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3660282/Boston-Lincolngrad-saw-seething-resentment-time-finish-revolution-says-PETER-HITCHENS.html#
    Have you noticed the lefty snobbery on local blogs relating conservative immigration concerns as bigotry, believing there were superior to those with growing concern over the number of illegal immigrants flowing across our southern borders and the number of Muslims being resettled in conservative rural communities. This is all going to play well for Trump in the November elections.

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  4. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    Russ, did you notice the picture in the DailyMail article – immigrants picking vegetables? The over-50, pro-Brexit voters are not picking vegetables.
    When they say the older, working-class voted for Brexit; did this generally less well- educated class understand that, more and more, workers are being replaced by machines? I think not.
    I think they fear what they can see; that is, dark haired, dark skinned working class strangers in the ‘hood, looking for work. They cannot easily see inside the fully-automated factories around the world that are displacing the working class.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    LOL “jon”.. The media writes bad news against Trump. Really? The vary same media that is helping change the batteries in Hillary’s vibrator.

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  6. Jon Dozer Avatar
    Jon Dozer

    Russ, the USA demographics bears no resemblance to that of England or Wales. As we explained previously, we’re a much more diverse nation with hundreds of varied cultures who live together peacefully in our many urban areas. All you have to do is attend any festival or sporting event in a urban/suburban area of America, and tell me if the people there resemble the English Brexit voters…NOT! So, good try, but Drumpf won’t gain any voters out of Brexit.
    Thanks.

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  7. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    Interesting that the Brexitiers, and Trump have much in common with the WTO, GATT, NAFTA, ‘free trade’ protesters who are generally labeled as liberals. Is the Great Divide shrinking?

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I see Dozer is up early on Sunday. How is the recovery from last nights drinking? Anyway, England has people from all over its commonwealth and they have their little enclaves just like America. If you have watched the BBC interviews throughout England during and after you would stay quiet as you are wrong and Russ is correct. The difference is assimilation. The older immigrants assimilated just as those in America used to do. Now though they don’t, just like here. So Dozer, stay off the bottle and start reading more than the DailyKos and The Nation for info. You are an embarrassment of ignorance.

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Steele, great post. Too many quotes to begin to list. The frustration that the House of Commons, both major parties, the Civil Service, the BBC all ignored the concerns of the John Q. Public across the board is evident. Who cares who is the next PM? The Conversatives are just Tony Blaire liberals and should drop the name conservatives. England just got a taste of why Nancy P lost that big gavel she loved carrying around directly as the result of our Tea Party. The House of Commons is getting a taste of what has happened to Cantor and Boehner. No representation. Go along to get along for them, not the ones they represent.
    The MSM (the BBC there) can’t figure out what went wrong. Both sides of the pond cannot understand why Trump is still around. Why Briexit won with a friggin majority of all things. It’s all about retaining power, not the voters, to the All Knowing Divine Elittists. Both parties here are so far out of touch and well in England.
    In the end, it’s always “We know what’s best for you”. They have grown tone death and forgot where they came from and who they represent. Definitely not John Q Public.
    Unchecked immigration is not the main issue. Being told that what the voter thinks, feels, and expresses is wrong is the bigger issue.. The Brits are a notoriously reserved lot, keeping their feelings in check. Perhaps a widespread anti-elitist mood has grown to the point it cannot be ignored any longer. The width, depth, and height of frustration turned to anger over a health care system that cannot deliver health care in a reasonable time period, a callous civil service deaf to the concerns of those they serve and down right excess overregulation has resulted in a majority from both sides of the aisle saying “Enough”! Politicians had plenty of time to lance the boil but swept it under the carpet and chose to willfully say “nothing to see here, this too shall pass”. Ah, revenge is a dish best served cold.
    Walt saw it coming years ago. Our MSM cannot even figure out why after the past 6 weeks where Trump has bobbled the ball repeatedly (and shot himself in the foot going after the Mexican judge) why he is still almost within the margin of error against Hillary in swing states. They are dumbfounded that Hillary took way too long to shake off a decades long self proclaimed unabashed Socialist. They still cannot figure it out. The reason is simple, yet expresses itself in various forms: they (we) are sick and tired of being sick and tired having power mad snobs from Ivory Towers telling us they know best and the peasants MUST conform, i e, over regulation that has crept into every aspect of their lives, issued from above.
    We the people are uniting against the ruling class of the Establishment of all parties, foreign and domestic. Crabb’s cartoon said it all. Something had to give and the dire consequences and predictions are falling upon deaf ears. A role reversal if you will. Elitists issuing edicts from tone deaf lofty perches and now are on the receiving end of a populace that has grown tone deaf to the elitists grand ideas. Over regulation via Big Bro confidently assuming they knows what’s best has wrought this upon their own heads, albeit they will never see it that way, probably never will.

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  10. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon Dozer | 26 June 2016 at 08:31 AM
    ….creepy
    Thanks.

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  11. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Agree with Dozer-
    The more time you spend in England the more you realize, that despite basic commonalities, we are as dissimilar as similar. It seems especially true for the older generation. The older, pro Brexit folks are very Unwired and haven’t embraced the digital era nearly as much as our oldsters. They remain largely in a time and place hundreds of years old and are more likely to pay heed to the local town paper or newsboard than they are to the BBC or Google News. I wouldn’t be too hasty predicting American voting behavior based on actions of the Brits. When America sneezes the world catches a cold. When London sneezes someone says a prayer.

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  12. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    We think we have it bad over here with proposed restrictions on firearms. The Brits are facing tea-pot and toaster controls. You do not try to take tea and toast from a Brit!

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  13. Jon Dozer Avatar
    Jon Dozer

    But jon, they still have the Falklands! The British Empire is alive and well! LOL

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  14. Jon Dozer Avatar
    Jon Dozer

    I see no one has yet explained how Great Britain will now be able to grow its national GDP without the irritating tentacles of the EU. How are they going to bring back those good paying jobs in the steel mills and coal mines? Anyone? 🙂 We can play verses of God Save the Queen while you ponder…

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Brad, 8:15 and 8:37.
    Ok, this might help you. The voters just don’t care anymore about facts or fiction or compelling arguments.. They have been brought to the point they just don’t give a shit about what anyone says. They know the factories are not coming back. They know it is safer in Orlando with a terrorist and gators munching people than it is to spend one night in the Southside of Chicago. They know everything that has come down the pike. They know, they don’t have to be told. They are fully aware of all sides of every argument. They have considered every aspect of everything.
    They just give a shit no more. They want to take out the garbage and secure the lids on the trash cans and nothing more, nothing less. That is it. We know longer care. Willing to throw they baby out with the bath water if necessary. A very dangerous place to be, but ANYTHING other than the status quo is better. We don’t give a shit no more, no way, no how. We just want the guillotine brought out of the storage room and dusted off. Real simple.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xLnTWxpTQt4
    Oh, trade is good. Trade is great. We want fair trade, not what the snobs call free trade. Fair trade. Get it yet? Real simple.

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  16. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    Interesting news bit – Trump businesses have made over $6 Million in income off of approximately $60 Million in campaign donations. Your donations are all helping Trump’s bottom line. If he is elected, will the White House be directed to only use Trump properties for government officials who are travelling around the country, or foreign countries?
    The Brits be damned, a falling Pound promotes foreign tourism in England, and tourism helps Trump’s bottom line.

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  17. Jon Dozer Avatar
    Jon Dozer

    Brad, and did you catch the irony of Drumpf bragging about Brexit and his golf course in Scotland the other day? A conservative nation which REJECTED Brexit?…the guy is simply a moron out to benefit himself. Drumpf has made millions through this campaign by preying on gullible older Americans like Todd and Tozer, and when Hillary becomes Prez, he’ll go back to Drumpf Enterprises in much better financial shape.

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  18. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Globalism led by a self appointed ruling class does seem to be the big loser with the Brexit. So is Big Green…

    Britons have been struggling under high energy prices for years, in part due to rules passed down from EU bureaucrats. Environmentalists opposed leaving the EU for precisely this reason. The Brexit vote signals the U.K. is lurching right, and will likely reject heavy-handed climate policies.
    “It is highly unlikely that the party-political green consensus that has existed in Parliament for the last 10 years will survive the seismic changes that are now unfolding after Britain’s Independence Day”
    <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/24/brexit-is-also-a-repudiation-of-eu-global-warming-mandates/

    “>http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/24/brexit-is-also-a-repudiation-of-eu-global-warming-mandates/

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  19. Jon Dozer Avatar
    Jon Dozer

    “not what the snobs call free trade.” Tozer
    Yes, snobs…..Reagan, Bush, Romney, Ryan, Limbaugh, the Chamber of Commerce, the GOP, etc.

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    ” A conservative nation which REJECTED Brexit?…the guy is simply a moron out to benefit himself.”
    Conservative? The Scots are bigger welfare state whores than the denizens of the mean streets of Chivcago.
    You should learn to “dig deeper”.
    PS: …….creepy

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  21. fish Avatar
    fish

    …..Yes, snobs…..Reagan, Bush, Romney, Ryan, Limbaugh, the Chamber of Commerce, the GOP, etc.
    Pelline.

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    …..creepy.
    Oops left one off.

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  23. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Snobs… like Jeff Pelline.

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  24. Jon Dozer Avatar
    Jon Dozer

    LOL.

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  25. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    The real LOL is that Pelline has so little to be snobbish about. He had for a long time refused to even own up to his major course of study at Cal (Rhetoric), and a Masters in Journalism rounds out a man (if that isn’t too strong a word) who never really learned much about anything besides arguing and reporting what people of substance do. Now he makes an honest living selling advertising in his glossy pennysaver that is given away (take this magazine, please!) while he tries to portray himself as a champion of the young.

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon Dozer | 26 June 2016 at 09:57 AM
    LOL.

    ….sad….n…..creepy.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    My New Year’s prediction here was a no-brainer. No one else made a prediction New Year’s Eve. Simply put, I said there will be a growing spirit of nationalism in the EU. The EU will still be standing at year’s end, another no brainer. Just an increase in a growing sentiment of that gawd awful nationalism.
    Yo Rusty Zipper. Reagen did the one-sided NAFTA? Hmmm. Well, to quote Bubba via his closest advisor Dick Morris, “Mend it, don’t end it.” I am all ears.

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  28. Jon Dozer Avatar
    Jon Dozer

    Pelline, Frisch, Pelline, Frisch, Pelline, Frisch…
    OBSESSION.

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I am an islamophobic and it is my new Badge of Honor. Assimilation, what a concept.
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/26/bill-maher-challenges-brexit-muslim-xenophobia-claims-real-time

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  30. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Pelline, Frisch, Pelline, Frisch, Pelline, Frisch…
    OBVIOUS

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  31. Jon Dozer Avatar
    Jon Dozer

    ….Obama’s approval rating at 56 percent — its highest level in Post polling since May 2011….

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Looks like online polls were more accurate on Brexit than the traditional ones.
    From Quartz.
    “Online polls, in fact, consistently put the Leave vote ahead by 1.2 percentage points in the Brexit polls, compared to live phone surveys that gave the remain camp a 2.6 point lead, reports The Huffington Post. The same patterns where seen by the Ethics and Public Policy Center, which tracks conservative politics in the United States and Europe, reports The Atlantic.”

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon Dozer | 26 June 2016 at 10:26 AM
    creeeepy…….

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yep, elections are won in June. But Dozer’s prediction is true. Think he said Hillary would bounce along between 4-10 points through the summer. I assume that excludes the normal post convention bounces.
    Rusty Zipper, listen to the millennials. A word to the wise.
    http://www.aol.com/article/2016/04/27/a-young-woman-shared-a-shocking-photo-of-herself-to-raise-awaren/21351972/?intcmp=hplnws

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  35. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Dozer”/Pelline has latched onto ABC/WaPo for polling (outliers for Hillary) and never did admit to their favorite WaPo editorialist being a graphics intern… LOL!
    NBC/WSJ have Hillary 39, Trump 38, Johnson 10 and the green a handful… and that’s before Clinton gets her coming barrage. Trump has been pounded for months, not sure how much of a downside for him unless he shoots himself in the foot more accurately than Hillary shoots herself in the foot. Not sure which has the larger target.

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  36. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hillary Clinton just announced her plan for dealing with the Brexit “problem” for the EU Establishment, International Bankers and hedge fund managers. She is sending The UK a case of reset buttons, labeled “I’m with Her” in oversized bold print.

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon Dozer | 26 June 2016 at 10:34 AM
    56%…… wow!
    I guess you and Paul don’t care that he’s not running for public office.
    …….cough…….creepy.

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  38. Russ Steele Avatar

    BradC@8:15AM
    One of the unfortunate circumstances is that majority of unskilled and moderately skilled workers around the world have no idea how vulnerable they are to being replaced by machines. Trump does not seem to realize all the jobs he promised to bring back from China are being replaced by robots. Yet he has tapped into low-income frustration with his promises.
    The UK workers and families are feeling abandoned as globalization closed factories, the coal mines shut down by the environmentalist, power is becoming more costly as reliable electrical plants replaced by more unreliable wind and solar. Thus, the need for the faceless EU bureaucracies demanding they give up their power hungry toasters, teapots, and hairdryers. Unable remove those causing them economic and social pain creates anger and resentment in the lower classes. Anger that the elite snobs and poll takers refused to recognize.
    While some claim we are not like the Brits, I content the same circumstances exist in the US. Environmentalists are driving up energy cost, and the coal mines closed forcing consumers to use more unreliable wind and solar. We have been forced to accept smart meters which the power companies want to use to manage our domestic power consumption. Voluntary now, but with Z-Wave and ZigBee chips installed in appliances and entertainment systems when manufactured, it will be mandated real soon now. These stealthy mesh network devices are designed to work with your smart meter allowing power companies to control your consumption. In US the EPA will not force us to give up our teapots, they have mandated control chips be installed when the pots are manufactured.
    Add in the frustration caused by EPA and CARB rules, regulations and mandates made by bureaucracies that are unelected and removable in the voting booth, and we have similar circumstances that the UK workers faced in dealing with the EU. Add in the manufacturing closed by globalization and unchecked immigration bringing in workers willing to work for less and your can see the parallels in the UK that resulted in a Leave vote. Abandoned feelings (similar to those in the UK) by the US lower and middle classes in the US resulting in a vital Trump voting block. A block unrecognized by the poll takers, who still seem to be clueless.

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  39. George Rebane Avatar

    BradC 916am – Please don’t confuse candidates who are private citizens and can spend their money as they please with elected officials who have to play by other rules.

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    In the category of more facts that don’t fit with the ‘jons’ party line narrative; online petition for a redo on brexit rife with fraud, 25,000 sigs from N Korea, 39,00 from Vatican City (population 800)anonymous hackers flood tally and online community 4 Chan also responsible. CBS poll shows voters in Florida, Colorado and Wisconsin showing significant numbers embracing the brexit messaging.
    One more, The UK Labor party is imploding with senior resignations, backbiting and infighting after labor voters defections in their loss. This puts another ‘jon’ projection of a massive resurgence of labor in the dustbin of history with so many of his other projections like the UK will vote STAY! 😉

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don, did you mark the tape?

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  42. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    Dr.R@1123am – just pointing out possible ‘pot calling kettle black’ potential self-dealing on Tump’s part, as I believe Hillary or Clinton’s foundation have been accused of.
    Of course, in both cases, it is ‘legal’.
    “Finance reports filed with the Federal Election Commission detail a campaign unafraid to co-mingle political and business endeavors in an unprecedented way.
    Wealthy political candidates in the past, including New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and presidential contender Steve Forbes both walled off their campaigns from the companies bearing their names.
    Not so for Trump. Through the end of May, his campaign had plowed about $6 million back into Trump corporate products and services, a review of the federal filings shows. That’s nearly 10 percent of his total expenditures.
    There’s nothing illegal about it. Regulations do require companies— even ones owned by the candidate— to charge fair-market value so as not to run afoul of a ban on corporate campaign contributions. They also require some complicated record-keeping.
    For instance, FEC reports show the campaign making about $400,000 in payments to Trump. But that’s a campaign finance accounting quirk. What’s actually happened is that Trump donated $400,000 in campaign office space and some salaries of company employees who have been working on his presidential bid.
    Yet Trump’s companies also charge his campaign for goods and services, putting him at risk of appearing to be a self-dealer. That’s why Forbes and Bloomberg avoided the issue altogether, former aides said.”
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-campaign-cycles-6-million-trump-companies-080734925–finance.html;_ylt=A0SO8zQtInBXGfAAPnjBGOd_;_ylu=X3oDMTBya2cwZmh2BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwM1BHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg–

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  43. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    BC, So why wouldn’t you use your own ballrooms in high end hotels and golf courses as well as unused office space, jumbo jet etc. if you owned it already? Its called an in-kind contribution and the FEC mandates every penny be documented or you are subject to fines.

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  44. Russ Steele Avatar

    Glenn Reynolds writing in USA Today:
    America, too, is experiencing a populist upheaval, of which Donald Trump’s candidacy is more of a symptom than a cause.
    So the post-Brexit number-crunching is over and it turns out that the decisive support for Britain’s leaving the EU came not from right-wing nationalists but from working-class Labour voters. This offers some lessons for British and European politicians — and for us in America, too.
    Much of Britain’s prosperity in recent years has centered on London, which has done very well and become very pleased with itself. As Peter Mandler writes in Dissent, this turned out to be a problem. London occupies a huge place in British society — as if Washington, D.C., New York, Hollywood, and perhaps Silicon Valley were all in the same place. But that leaves the rest of the country feeling somewhat left out, and deeply suspicious of the people running things, especially as the people running things seem to hold the rest of the country in contempt, openly mocking the traditional, the middle-class, the non-Metropolitan.

    Hillary’s problem is that she in a member of the Washington/New York elites which the folks are rebelling against.

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  45. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Here is my response to that Hispanic bigot Breton of the SacBee (page 1B). His screed was sh**’. I am fed up with these minority whiners. Oops, that’s right, they are now the majority in California.
    “Wow! I read your screed as I have others and have now concluded you are a racist and a bigot. “White” is you best slur apparently. Your disdain for those “colored” white people shows very boldly. And you never answered whu you call yourself a Mexican-American, when asked by one of those crackers. You see, you ave to understand that maybe facts are relative. Bill Clinton placed that uncertainty into the lexicon. So your facts don’t seem to square with those “white” men’s facts. You seem to rely on your facts from the same government many people don’t trust for transparency of facts. But you get to pick the source of your facts I guess, just like those white crackers. So if they said hey you “brown” journalist, would that be racist?
    I am truly sad that a person like you, given the chance to become one of he lucky people on planet earth called American is so angry and prejudice you can’t see your gidt. You are all wrapped up in color and yet you call those men “white” as you spit those words out. America is made up of people from all over the planet and I think we do a damn good job of getting along for the most part. Where it stops is when you start attacking “white” people. We seem to allow laws by the bundles to equalize the playing fields for the aggrieved people’s from elsewhere while all you do is complain about how tough you have it. I think it is you are simply a part of the grievance industry and if you did not have a column to whine all the time you would be a ditch digger. No one would want to be around such negativity.
    Trump has simply stated his thoughts and in my view he is less a bigot than you. At least he lives his jive. He hires people of all colors and praised them. Unlike you who has no use for other people whiter than you. So as a person who has many friends of different colors all my life, I found we all shared the desire to get ahead and make good for our families. No one whined like you. We all worked hard, had the same goals and we could care less what each others colors were. You should try. Oh, I forgot, that is how you make your money, by dividing us.

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