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[Well, that was quite an episode in the last sandbox that I hope has run its course, or at least not let that thread of ad hominem exchanges leak out.  I see that Sen Ted Cruz will throw his hat in the ring tomorrow, NATO's chief sees continued expansion from Putin that may get out of hand, and Bibi is keeping his powder dry re the farcical negotiations going on with Iran.  And our own Bob Crabb is celebrating that Spring has sprung with a change in the business climate hereabouts.  gjr]

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256 responses to “Sandbox – 22mar15”

  1. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Ahhhh I love the smell of political incorrectness in the morning, it smells like victory! 😉

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  2. Walt Avatar

    Ya’ gotta hand it to the AGW kooks. This is their idea of “fair and balanced”
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/03/28/bbc-presenter-new-climate-doc-unbiased-because-it-doesnt-feature-sceptics/
    Just like a good ol’ kangaroo court. ” We will give the bastard a fair trial,, THEN we will hang’m.”

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    Would you include sales to minors of alcohol and tobacco on your shoot-um list? They are both certified killers and addictive drugs.

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  4. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    No I would not Paul Emery. You are just being absurd. But what’s new?

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Will the “true believers” play along?
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/28/earth-hour-turning-the-world-into-north-korea-one-time-zone-at-a-time/
    So go out and throw the main breaker on the power panel.
    It will easy to tell if GV plays along. There is a nice glow of GV from over the hill.
    I will help make up the diff. ALL my lights will be on.

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar

    So you would shoot people for selling pot to minors but not alcohol or tobacco. Which “drug” do you think kills the most people?

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  7. Walt Avatar

    Alcohol and tobacco are legal Paul. That’s only worth a good thump’n.

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Walt has it right. Flogging for Alcohol and tobacco would suffice for me.

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  9. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Walt 28Mar15 07:52 PM
    It appears, then, that your opinion is based not so much on the always popular for-the-good-of the-children stance but instead on allegiance to your government. I’ve said it before, Walt, and here it is again. For one who presents himself as a conservative you exhibit many liberal characteristics.

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  10. Walt Avatar

    You don’t need to be a bleeding heart LIB to look out for kids.
    Funny though,, The dope smoking Lefty doesn’t have an issue with selling it to kids.
    Kids can get weed faster than getting cigs or booze.

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  11. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Walt 28Mar15 08:29 PM
    You don’t need to be a bleeding heart LIB to look out for kids.
    I didn’t say that you did. What I did say was that your allegiance to government, rather than what is good for children, is a liberal characteristic.
    Funny though,, The dope smoking Lefty doesn’t have an issue with selling it to kids.
    Criminals tend to be politically agnostic so I suspect that few dope dealers lean strongly left or right.
    Kids can get weed faster than getting cigs or booze.
    That’s correct and it is an excellent reason to legalize. When businessmen, who are motivated to keep their licenses to sell (such as those who now sell alcohol and tobacco), replace criminals who have no reason to discriminate to whom they sell, then it will be just as hard to kids to get marijuana is it is to now get tobacco and alcohol.

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  12. joe smith Avatar
    joe smith

    MK 08:29 “Criminals tend to be political agnostics”. Have some whacky sauce on this morning’s eggs?
    Aryan brotherhood, Disciples of Christ, National fascist party (black shirts), Patriots of Ukraine, The Black Hundreds, CABPRO . . . . all criminal organizations with extreme right political agendas. Then you have the Black Panthers, Symbionese liberation army, Earth First, PETA . . .

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Joe Smith 9:41 AM March 29, 2015, so CABPRO, headed by Kim Janousek owner of B and C is a criminal organization? Wow! You better get a good lawyer. George can you forward his IP and the comment to her?

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  14. Walt Avatar

    Well here is a way for Nevada City to drag in tourists in the “off season”. Maybe the fisrt weekend in Nov.?
    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/28/indonesians-get-high-after-police-burn-confiscated-marijuana/
    Just advertise a week before down in Frisco.

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    Dear People – the level of debate here sometimes becomes a bit sophomoric, but that is OK because, after all, this is the Sandbox. However, questioning whether a longtem dietary indiscretion that perhaps contributes to the deaths of millions should have its suppliers executed vs a substance that indisputably contributes to specific deaths is a bit humorous, and more so when the questioner believes he’s actually in there duking it out on a peer intellectual level.

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    … the level of debate here sometimes becomes a bit sophomoric
    Sometimes?

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  17. George Rebane Avatar

    MichaelK 842pm – Another excellent argument for legalizing MJ. Kids will indeed have a harder time getting the weed when its cheapest distribution channels are all legal and regulated. Black market MJ will then cost a lot more than now because there will be fewer illegal growers. At least that is how the putative economics seems to work out.
    Does anyone know the stats yet from WA and CO on such sales to kids and their post legalization consumption rates?

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  18. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    George Rebane 29Mar15 08:33 PM
    The first seven hits for a Google search on the terms “post-legalization teen” report that teen usage and traffic fatalities related to usage have significantly decreased. The eighth reported these rates have not changed more than their statistical margins of error.

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  19. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    joe smith 29Mar15 09:41 AM
    Rather than the likes of the organizations you list I was think of criminals of the sells-a-pound-or-two-per-month kind.
    Between that and “some whacky sauce on this morning’s eggs,” I respectfully request that you to stick it up your ass, if you don’t mind.

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  20. joe smith Avatar
    joe smith

    MK 21:41 AM (the AM shows you are on “faketime” thus likely using TOR to hide your identity, Why go through the effort?).
    We are all entitled to our own definition of criminal. Your “pound or two a month club” is a definition I haven’t heard before. In the eyes of God (as interpreted by the Pope himself) Todd Juvinall is a criminal of the first order (Allegedly three divorces and counting. Who knows how many abortions?).
    I am still intrigued by your observation that criminals are agnostic. Do you imply agnostics are criminals or that the pious aren’t fit to be criminals? Simply wondering where you are headed with this. I have Googled your assertion that “criminals are agnostic”and found no validation. Please elucidate.

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  21. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    joe smith 29Mar15 10:33 PM
    I am neither faking nor hiding anything. I prefaced my comment with “joe smith 29Mar15 09:41 AM” to indicate the comment to which I was responding. This has been requested by our host and is somewhat customary here on RR.
    I in no way attempted to restrict your entitlement to your definition of criminal but did inform you of the kind of criminal I had in mind when I posted my earlier statement.
    Tod Juvenall’s personal history is of no concern to me. It appears that this is not the case for you.
    I did not say that criminals are agnostic. In response to Walt’s statement, “The dope smoking Lefty doesn’t have an issue with selling it to kids,” I said, “Criminals tend to be political agnostics.” “Agnostic” does not exclusively concern religious beliefs and by specifying “political agnostic” I intended to indicate my observation that criminals tend to not demonstrate strong political allegiances.
    Are you actually lack a knack for the obvious and frequently require this level of assistance?

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  22. joe smith Avatar
    joe smith

    MK 23:13
    You are correct and I am to be corrected. A second glance at the time stamp would have clearly indicated you were referencing a previous post. My mistake, and mine alone. I’m sorry for the TOR snipe allegations. Sometimes I admit to needing your level of assistance :-). Thank you.

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Hey Joe Smith I have enjoyed all my marriages. What about you? LOL!

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  24. joe smith Avatar
    joe smith

    TJ 6:45. Unlike you, I entered into marriage vowing to love my wife to the end of my life. It’s been a pretty nice relationship going into our 4th decade. When the going got rough during our first 10 years, we didn’t take the easy way out and toss in the towel for convenience sake, but worked through the bumps. The past 20 years have been the best of my life. And no, we never had, or ever considered an abortion either.
    That you can repeatedly, and with apparent flippant glee, repeatedly break your oaths under God speaks volumes to your character.

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Joe Smith, you are right, I am truly a “character”. I would suggest you are simply a wimp and your life is controlled by the wife (if you are telling the truth). Wimps such as yourself sell out because they are unable to make it without leeching on to the strengths of others. But 40 years of true misery is all yours JS. LOL!

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  26. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I just realized that I dated her in high school! LOL! Now I see why you libs always go personal. What a hoot!

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  27. George Boardman Avatar

    Juvinall 30 March 8:05 a.m.:
    Are you saying that everybody who has been married a long-time is a wimp? I thought it took strength to remain married for almost 46 years.
    I would suggest that people who have been married three times exhibit poor judgement, don’t learn from their mistakes, and view marriage as a convenience rather than a commitment.

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  28. Patricia Smith Avatar

    You forgot to include the most dangerous drugs of all – tobacco and alcohol. Oh wait, are these your drugs of choice and therefore off limits?

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Patricia Smith | 30 March 2015 at 09:33 AM
    You might want to substantiate this claim. People consume alcohol and tobacco for years with minimal impact to their health if taken in reasonable amounts.

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  30. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    George B at 9:28. I guess you libs have no sense of humor. Jeeze.

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  31. George Boardman Avatar

    Juvinall at 9:49: You’re not funny. You just think you are.

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  32. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Patricia Smith 30Mar15 09:33 AM
    Walt and Todd have included tobacco and alcohol in their assessments of what should be done with those who supply drugs to minors. Rather than the killing that they support for suppliers of other drugs they are of the opinion that those who provide tobacco and alcohol to minors deserve “thump’n” and “flogging.” Walt bases his opinion not on concern for the minors but on the legality of tobacco and alcohol.
    I also question your assessment of tobacco and alcohol as the “most dangerous drugs of all.”

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  33. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    I also question your assessment of tobacco and alcohol as the “most dangerous drugs of all.”
    In terms of aggregate effect, I’d vote for HFCS.

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    Since you brought it up, is your statement that anyone who provides pot to a minor should be shot one that was an attempt at being humerous or one that literally support?

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  35. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    drivebyposter 30Mar15 10:45 AM
    I submit that high fructose corn syrup is more accurately classified as a food rather than a drug. A dangerous food, perhaps, but a food none the less.

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  36. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    George B 10:12 AM, hey I am as funny as you are a journalist. What a hoot! What cracks me up is ypu libs attack me personally all the time, marriage, abortion whatever, and you just make it up. But hey, I have a thick skin and have had to seal with you loons for many years.
    For Patricia and Paul Emery, yes, you supply heroin, cocaine and meth type drugs to minors then you get the firing squad. And with a maximum of two years of appeals.

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  37. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Kesti has it right.

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  38. Brad C. Avatar
    Brad C.

    Jeez Todd, look what you started! lol

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar

    Lets review the evolution of Todds consciousness here you wrote yesterday:
    Execution by the overdose of the drug the dealers are pushing on kids. Great idea. I actually would rather see it done by firing squad. That is how the Chinese kill theirs. The list of drugs is not that long. Heroin, cocaine, marijuana, ecstasy, and similar ones. Paul Emery can shoot the “sugar pushers”
    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 28 March 2015 at 11:28 AM
    Now you write:
    For Patricia and Paul Emery, yes, you supply heroin, cocaine and meth type drugs to minors then you get the firing squad. And with a maximum of two years of appeals.
    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 30 March 2015 at 11:45 AM
    No mention of pot the second time. Have you reconsidered that position or do you still include pot dealing to minors to be a capital crime with death by firing squad?

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar

    re George 29 March 2015 at 04:11 PM
    I am on record as being opposed to the death penalty for any reason. Who specifically were you referring to?

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  41. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Sure Paul Emery, my list includes MJ sold to minors. I consider it a gateway drug. Shoot the pushers.

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  42. Paul Emery Avatar

    Wow Todd. You constantly amaze me. It’s a good thing you are not running for office anymore.
    That statement would hang on your neck like a pork chop in a pack of dogs. I’ll have more on this later.

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  43. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    More on what paul? Pork chops or dog packs?

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  44. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery, wow! So ion the converse you are in agreement that drugs should be sold to minors. OK, got it.
    Regarding running for office. Been there done that. No interest unless through coronation now.

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  45. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    BradC 12:04 PM
    Yep, I figured we would get some vigorous debate. But unfortunately the left always goes personal. Sal Alinsky tactics in our little burg. LOL!

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd, please show me where I advocated selling drugs to minors. If you cannot find it please appologize. I believe pot is not healthy and dangerous for minors as is alcohol and tobacco and should be illegal. Death by bullets in my view is a bit severe. Why shouldn’t it be also used for tobacco and alcohol distribution to minors.
    That is illegal as well and both are killer drugs.
    What in your view is the difference?

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  47. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    No apologizes from me. If you don’t oppose something usually means you agree. So that is my deduction.
    MJ is a gateway drug and most if not all addicts later tell they started there. Alcohol is good for wounds and disinfectants. Tobacco is now being found to contain many chemicals that are refined out and are good. Besides, watching the smoke rise after exhaling from one’s lungs is very colorful.

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  48. Paul Emery Avatar

    Sure Todd. Morphine is good for pain relief so should it be legal for recreational use as alcohol is?

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  49. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I think not.

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