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Sandbox – 12dec14

12 December 2014

[Many apologies for falling asleep at the switch; this sandbox is long overdue. gjr]

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105 responses to “Sandbox – 12dec14”

Bill Tozer

15 December 2014

I don’t get cable/satellite broadcast TV either. Too cheap to buy it. And I don’t do antenna TV on my van down by the river. Neither do I listen to Limbaugh (rare occasions) nor read the Daily Kos. I do miss Rachel’s hairdo and small sweet maiden breasts on MSPMS and that anti-gun nut Brit making a fool of himself on Chicken Noodle News. Heard he is gone. Pierce, wasn’t it? How soon we forget.
Perhaps Joe K. needs a brain wash to think a wee bit more clearly. Just pop that organ out of your mellon, soak it in a good detergent like Tide for 25 minutes, and reinsert into cranium. Easy as pie, simple, very inexpensive, and cures the Numbskull Syndrome. He has had a nincompoop feeding his mind with all sorts of weird thoughts for too long. A good brainwash is past due. 🙂

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Bill Tozer

15 December 2014

More proof that the liberal affliction can cause Numbskull Syndrome. Oh, the poor thing had such a bright future ahead of her and now even The Huffington Post is calling for her to be put out to pasture. Sad, sad story, yet not uncommon when the wretched Numbskull Syndrome strikes. I can barely recognize her. Oh Ruthie Baby, where did you go wrong?
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Scott Obermuller

15 December 2014

Ben at 6:54 -“On my walk in the trees yesterday after my participation here I thought about this blog and why I get so much opposition.”
In the trees, Ben? Sure you weren’t walking on water?
Next time before you think about this blog, I would advise you to READ other’s words and think about what we conservatives actually write. Almost everything you accuse us of is completely untrue.
As far as you thinking yourself a follower of Jesus – well – is this a magic left wing nut Jesus you made up or the actual Son Of God?
You might want to go through the Bible and pay attention to what he had to say.
Helping others and sharing is to come from one’s heart, not the govt gun.
You get opposition from conservatives because you advocate fascism – and we don’t like it.

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Walt

15 December 2014

LOVE IT!! “Wile E.” K has NO real clue of what’s going on in reality. You supposedly have access to the world through the Internet since you manage to makes posts here, yet don’t use the technology to educate yourself of the goings on of the world.
Yes folks, we are hearing from a sterile LIB mind, free of any outside input. Pure, raw, LIB thinking.

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Walt

15 December 2014

HOLY CRAP!!!! A LIB can keep his job even while going to jail, and being a convicted PERV!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/15/dem-lawmaker-may-commute-to-work-from-jail/

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Walt

15 December 2014

Seems the Tea Party was “targeted” in more ways than one. Some Leftys will love the story, but maybe not the ending.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/12/14/You-are-a-Teabagger-Long-Island-Woman-Receives-1-12-Million-For-False-Prosecution

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Bill Tozer

15 December 2014

All incompassing comments which could be placed in any number of Dr. Rebane’s posts:
Looks like Red States understand the kitchen table issues of the electorate. Quality of Life issues start with a secure roof over your head, shelter from the rain. Shelter one can afford. Senator Chuckie from New York was right. The Dems should have fixed the economy first or at least spent a lot more time and strenous effort on the primary issue on people’s mind, rather than passing the Stimulus Stimu-pie in a few weeks and then moving on to Liberal wet dreams. Tell me again that over regulation has no effect on us here in the Golden State.
http://news.yahoo.com/housing-affordability-blue-americas-greatest-154500578.html
As far was the blight of Black America, it looks like Blue States take the cake. Throw out Bubba Willy’s purple Arkansas and The Jayhawk State and it becomes clear the Libs own the worst places for the Black Community. Funny, I thought it would be the Deep South or the gun toting places like Wyoming, Montana, the Dokatas, or Redneck Arizona. At least that was what we were led to believe.
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/12/10/where-are-the-worst-states-for-black-americans/20188645/
Writer’s note: the preceding link appeared in both the Wall Street Journal and The Huffington Post just to make it fair and balanced.

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Bill Tozer

15 December 2014

At last, at last! Harry Reid utters something and I totally agree! It’s a new era of coming together as I desire the exact same thing for Senator Reid as he desires for himself. Things will be looking up now that the good Senator got his wish.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2014/12/15/?entry=7075&_r=1

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Ben Emery

16 December 2014

26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
Matthew 6:26 King James
Peace, Tolerance, and Love are the teachings of Jesus Christ.

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Ben Emery

16 December 2014

The Beatitudes
He said:
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Peace, Tolerance, and Love are the teachings of Jesus Christ. It is 365 day a year commitment.

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George Rebane

16 December 2014

BenE 1020am+ – Ben, you are a precious advocate for your beliefs. Christians today are persecuted in a hundred lands while Christianity is being and has been abandoned by more western nations than we can track. Yet there is no uprising of Christians and no ‘Christian response’ to counter or take revenge on the intolerant Muslims and their governments. All Christians do is bend over and turn a couple of more cheeks to be kicked.
Instead, our new non-Christian secular humanist governments are half-heartedly engaged with the Muslims. These governments have no philosophical bases to effectively counter people of faith willing daily to lay down their lives for their god. Instead our governments treat such Muslims as mere cyphers on the battlefield while showing misguided ‘sensitivities’ to the Muslims living among us.
Meanwhile, our leftwingers are delivering Christian beatitudes to those of us who recognize yet do not welcome the oncoming culture of the caliphate. I wonder, who among you are delivering such similar messages to Muslims, especially those who wantonly kill and to the Muslim multitudes who openly celebrate such killings.

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Bonnie McGuire

16 December 2014

Not long ago human rights advocates asked the United Nations to investigate alleged killing of Christians in Africa. Eventually those in charge said it was merely ethnic cleansing. I seem to remember the same behavior in Germany was called Genecide.

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drivebyposter

17 December 2014

‘Genecide’ is a nice turn of phrase.
Probably the most underreported story is the near death of Judaism in Arab countries.

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Ben Emery

17 December 2014

“There is no moral difference between a stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. Both kill innocent people for political reasons.” Tony Benn
Until we understand this concept we will continue to kill at random and create enemies.

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Gregory

17 December 2014

The dead and buried hard left Labour MP Ben quotes (7:21AM) is essentially saying, with Ben’s hearty approval, that there is no moral difference between any military action ordered by the President of the US and the creation of a bunch of red goo that had been a schoolbus full of kids before a jihadist set off their bomb.
Way to go, Ben! That’s exactly the sort of moral standard I expect from you.

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Joe Koyote

17 December 2014

Gregory — and so the murder of innocent bystanders by drones and ‘shock and awe’ is morally acceptable to you because it was done in the name of US interests? It seems that the jihadists have the same moral compass that you do, that is that murder is just fine as long as it is for a good political reason. Pretty disgusting, but nothing I wouldn’t expect from conservative chicken hawks.

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George Rebane

17 December 2014

The dimensions of difference between the Right and Left are many, and another is illustrated in BenE’s 721am as pointed out by Gregory’s 814am. What I want to add is that such differences between us go right down to what each side considers the norms of moral behavior and morality, all which rise from the totally different ways we look at and then see the world around us. Here BenE and JoeK’s 925am totally dismiss ‘intent’ as a factor in judging the morality of an action. A military action planned to destroy only a military target that also results in the death of innocent people, is judged morally equivalent to that of a homicide bomber who intends to kill as many innocents as possible since these are his prime targets.
That kind of thinking is now institutionalized in our government schools, and this example is a belief tenet of collectivists. As such, it also makes clear why the Left will never publicize a list of its belief tenets, because doing so would immediately expose them to the uninitiated as ranging from the reprehensible to the idiotic. (RR has a years long invitation to any leftist to offer a credo that is equivalent to the one posted here and expanded in numerous specifics on these pages. No one has yet stepped up to the plate, and I will be most surprised if anyone does.)

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fish

17 December 2014

It seems that the jihadists have the same moral compass that you do, that is that murder is just fine as long as it is for a good political reason.
Hah! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha……..breathe…….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Really JoKe…..sometimes you just crack me up!
Killing for “good political reasons” is the sirens song of all good leftists and “peoples movements”!

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Gregory

17 December 2014

Speak softly, and carry a big stick. In general, we don’t have enough of the former but that is not a reason to swear off big sticks.
George mentions intent, but I’d suggest accountability is on par. Terrorists are self appointed.

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Gregory

17 December 2014

“and so the murder of innocent bystanders by drones and ‘shock and awe’ is morally acceptable to you because it was done in the name of US interests?”
One of the boldest straw men you’ve constructed, JoKe, since I made no statement approving of the “murder of innocent bystanders”.
Was it immoral in the mind of JoKe to bomb Berlin in the campaign to end WWII in Europe?
If I am a “chicken hawk”, I may have been the only one carrying signs protesting our involvement in Iraq in the first place, back in the Desert Storm days. The two mistakes were 1) getting involved, and 2) doing it half-assed, not finishing the job, letting Saddam fester in place. GHW Bush and Bill Clinton share the blame for that one.

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George Rebane

17 December 2014

re Gregory’s 959am – putting a finer point on it, so far only the ‘lone wolf’ ragheads are “self appointed”. The overwhelming number of homicide bombers are appointed by and issue from various well-formed Islamist organizations using terror as their current weapon to attack the west and their fellow Muslims not hewing to various ‘proper interpretations’. America seeks to hold these organizations accountable primarily through drone strikes that target their leaders. These strikes cannot be called counter-measures since there is little evidence that they have reduced the frequency, range, or lethality of such terror attacks, but such strikes have resulted in the unintended collateral deaths of the innocent.
While in the large Obama’s feckless foreign policy is mainly responsible for the marked spread of Islamist terror organizations over multiple continents during the years since we declared victory in Iraq and Afghanistan, the effectiveness of drone strikes is thereby confounded as part of that foreign policy.

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Gregory

17 December 2014

George, terrorist organizations are themselves self appointed, wielding terror against those who, in a democratic society, would be able to vote against them, and speak against them, without fear of a visit from their thugs in the middle of the night.
I stand by my original statement and its implicit extension to terrorist groups.

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Todd Juvinall

17 December 2014

Ben Emery and JoeK are consistent though. (I thought that was a view of conservatives by leftists). These two fellows also believe that a animal has the same rights as humans. So they are able to tell themselves they are superior. The binding factor for the “lone wolfs” is the Koran, Islam and 1400 years ot murdering those that don’t agree with Mohammed. So, to me they are not a lone wolf, they are a soldier of Islam, just murdering by themselves, sort of like a deranged sniper.
When we send a drone to take out a terrorist, the terrorist usually surrounds himself with innocents since he knows our values truly are superior. I don’t recall a Marine in Afghanistan or Iraq taking little kids and surrounding himself to discourage the head choppers. Do you Ben and Joe? Of course you both never answer our questions.

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Walt

17 December 2014

If Ben or Joe were the ones with a knife to their throat kneeling in front of a video camera, ( or GOD forbid a close member of their kin,,) would their tune change?
Or would they prefer, ” Sorry for your bad luck” and no one does a damn thing.

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Todd Juvinall

17 December 2014

What the left refuses to believe is that EVIL exists and must be met with force. They think they can talk to Mohammed and he will listen. But as long as they do, the Islamist will have a steady supply of heads to chop off.

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Joe Koyote

17 December 2014

carp 9:06 — please refer to my post of the other day about your irrelevance to the conversation.

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George Rebane

17 December 2014

Gregory 1128am – That being the case, half of the world’s sovereign nation-states are then “self appointed” as are their subsequent projections of power by your logic. I guess we can let our respective positions stand.

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Joe Koyote

17 December 2014

Todd and Walt — How are your scenarios any different than having your family blown up by a drone strike? What you don’t seem to get is the correlation between American military forays in the middle east and the rise of terrorism. They go hand in hand. Our actions keep creating more and more terrorists, which creates more military action, more terrorists, more action: on and on. One person’s terrorist is another person’s freedom fighter. It all depends on which side of the action you look at it from. No one in their right mind condones the slaughter that terrorists and radical islamists perpetrate. Just like no one in their right mind should condone the senseless killing of innocent civilians by our drones either. It’s all politics which is the dirtiest form of human endeavor there is regardless of which side you are on. All of these atrocities are because of political/religious beliefs which share the same trait: self-righteousness.

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George Rebane

17 December 2014

JoeK 227pm – are not the embrace of two mutually abhorrent and exclusive “political/religious beliefs” sufficient reason for two civilizations to contend?

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Todd Juvinall

17 December 2014

No JoeK, there is a world of difference between our drone program and the murders perped by these Koran reading killers. We are not fighting for a religion. They are. We send a drone strike to pinpoint as best possible the killers they blow everyone up. They surround themselves with kids and women to discourage our strikes, they chop heads off innocent people sent to help their [people. Sorry JoeK, you are just wrong and I am sure if these killers came for you and your family you would wish there was a drone to your rescue.

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Walt

17 December 2014

Damn Joe,, we have pretty much “walked away”.. Yet they still want us dead. WE didn’t start
this fight. Their crap is all about “their” religion. They are no different than Hitler,
and want their ideals to dominate and rule the world. They have said as much.
As stated before. They hate our way of life. We go after known bad guys. They go after anyone they can. Use that computer of yours to find that out, instead of surfing porn and making uninformed posts based on personal feelings (you said you don’t look at news)

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fish

17 December 2014

Posted by: Joe Koyote | 17 December 2014 at 01:24 PM
yawn…….!

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Joe Koyote

17 December 2014

George 2:33 — I guess that would depend on the meaning of “contend”. The open discussions of pros, cons, and issues is one thing slaughter is yet another. Violence seems to breed more violence. Where does it stop? Is the annihilation of Islam the only solution?

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Joe Koyote

17 December 2014

Walt 3:21 — I agree with your assessment of radical Islam. But we need to find out why they hate us, why they see us as the Great Satan or this bloodshed will never end and countless young soldiers on both sides will die because their dumb fuc= parents told them to hate us/them. We will be involved in a continuous war. FYI – I didn’t say I didn’t get the news… I said I didn’t watch television or cable news.

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Walt

17 December 2014

Joe.. As you put it ” if we just stop fighting people”.. Just what makes you think that will make the bad guys of the world just go away? Do explain that warped concept.
We pull ALL out armed forces home from around the world. Even N. Korea. What will happen?
Do tell.
Here’s a little hint. We got Ukraine to fork over their nukes, and we gave them our word we would protect them. “O” reneged on that promise. We have hung them out to dry, and at Putin’s mercy. The Russians even shot down a civilian airliner with no repercussions.
Yet the fighting over there continues. Now word has it, Putin is going to ramp things up.
So much for our agreement in protecting Ukraine.
Just think what will happen elsewhere. The Middle East is in worse shape than ever thanks to “your” line of thinking. We pulled out of Iraq,, and ISIS moved in. Happy?

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Scott Obermuller

17 December 2014

“Peace, Tolerance, and Love are the teachings of Jesus Christ. It is 365 day a year commitment.”
So – no govt control of wages and prices? Where does Jesus command that?
Love involves discipline. The way I raised our children. The way that God raises us.
The peace that Jesus taught was the peace of the soul that comes from the sure knowledge of eternal life with God. He instructed his disciples to arm themselves with a sword. Tolerance was not tolerance of anything. Jesus was extremely INtolerant of a lot of what he observed. Ben indeed enjoys the made up left wing nut Jesus that does not match all of what Jesus commanded. Believe it all, Ben and stop cherry picking out of context.

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George Rebane

17 December 2014

JoeK 500pm – Islam is the only religion that still has huge cohorts of believers and millions of ‘moderate’ supporters who believe and exercise the dictum of ‘Accept Allah or die!’ World dominating Islam proudly declares its inability to coexist with any other belief system – their belief is in Allah and their marching orders are in the Quran.
Since it is they who claim and demonstrate daily that our two civilizations are incompatible to coexist on the same planet, to what extent are you willing to compromise with those ragheads?

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Bill Tozer

18 December 2014

A paradox was been unearthed. Ben Holder, Mr. Koyote, and most on the farther Lefty side of the aisle judge themselves by their intentions, while we on the Righty side judge them by results. They say within themselves concerning most social issues that their intentions are good, moral, just, compassionate, and fair which out weights the unintended harm, consequences, and utter failures. The lovely adage “The road to hell is paved with good intentions” comes to mind.
The paradox? Now the lefties are judging us on the Right on the results, not our intentions. A dead Muslim child is a dead Muslim child no matter how you cut it. We say our military would never seek out innocence civilians with drone strikes as the primary target (our intentions), while the Peace Movement points to the results (dead kids).
Guess we all put the most favorable light on ourselves and point to our intentions while we are judged by our actions and results by the other side. Cuts both ways. The Chamberlin Syndrome.
How can one be pro abortion on demand and anti-death penalty? Conversely, how can one be anti-abortion and pro death penalty. The paradoxes.

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Russ Steele

19 December 2014

Obama in News Conference
We have a right to make movies that offend people.
Obama on video that was suppose to be cause for Benghazi
We can not allow movies that offend people.
Well, which is it Mr. President?
Will the press note the disparity? Maybe Fox News?

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Walt

19 December 2014

Great catch Russ! Send one to jail for it, then suck up to the LIB donors in Hollywierd.

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Walt

19 December 2014

Just posted on the DC Russ, They didn’t let it slip by.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/19/flashback-obama-white-house-was-for-censorship-of-videos-before-opposing-sony-censorship-video/

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Bill Tozer

19 December 2014

I was for it before I was agin it.

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Russ Steele

21 December 2014

A few words from the Diplomad on our Dear Leader:
As readers of this blog know, I have little to no regard for the current occupant of the White House. I see him as the most ignorant, uncultured in every sense of the word, and destructive President in the long history of our now much beleagured Republic. As far as I can tell, what thoughts he has are shaped by some superficial reading and understanding of Marxist-tinged tracts and slogans, the classic progressive disdain for America and its achievements, and a strong sense of entitlement, all glued together with a mighty dollop of Chicago-style race and class politics. He has little to no understanding of America or of the world. His speeches are loosely linked bumper sticker slogans, progressive fantasies, and, frankly, just lies. He has no concept of leadership or management, having never had a real job in the real world. He relies on a political base made up of an elite of America-haters, and a mass of low-information dolts who also think in bumper sticker terms–many of these dolts products of our decrepit “higher” educational system. He, however, is what we’ve got as President: a sad, sad day for America and those around the world who believe in and struggle for freedom.
Read the rest HERE: http://thediplomad.blogspot.com/2014/12/on-cuba.html

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Ben Emery

22 December 2014

Happy Solstice!
Winter Celebration
Yule
Lit Christmas Tree
Santa Claus
Mistletoe
Holy and Ivy
Reindeer
Stockings
Gifts
and the story of the Jesus Christ all have roots in various Pagan traditions.
Happy Holidays to Everyone

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Todd Juvinall

22 December 2014

Well thanks Ben Emery. When you do the animal sacrifice, I know you will be thinking of all of us here. What a hoot!

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Joe Koyote

22 December 2014

I already have a “Todd Doll” that I throw darts at. Haven’t you been feeling some pain in your stomach and neck lately?

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Joe Koyote

22 December 2014

What about your rear, any pain there? (said Ed to Johnny) Funny you should ask.

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Walt

22 December 2014

Joe plays with DOLLS!!!?????? OOOOHHHH Brother…. Whatever floats your boat.
Picking on defenseless girl toys… Seek professional help dude.

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Joe Koyote

22 December 2014

Ever heard of voodoo Walt?

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Walt

22 December 2014

I’m supposed to be impressed? Obviously it don’t work.
But better watch out,, bad juu juu just might come your way.
Now go cut the chicken’s throat, and rattle dem bones and beg forgiveness.
You know not what you mess with.

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