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George Rebane

Right after 9/11 when we declared war on something mislabeled terrorism, I pondered about that new war and how it would be fought, and more importantly how could/would it be won.  Being of the analytical bent, I came up with an effective metric and communicated it to the editors of the Wall Street Journal (more here).  The metric was based on the established notion that when your enemy resorts to terror, his objective is to cause you to defeat yourself through the self-infliction of internal defenses (regulations, liberties removed, checkpoints, searches, etc) that would grind down your abilities to communicate, travel, conduct commerce, and, in general, carry on a normal productive life style.  Over the last twelve years we have all come to know the drill on how our lives have changed as the ragheads count victory after victory.

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My metric was essentially a thermometer that would go up with the number of all the restrictions, laws, prohibitions, … that the state would pass in the name of assuring our security against these then unidentified terrorists.  (Since then the DHS has identified American veterans and tea partiers as the most likely terrorists, and anyone yelling ‘Allahu Akbar!’ before killing/maiming dozens of Americans is just committing “workplace violence”.)

Anyway, the metric would similarly record the deleted number of such anti-terror prohibitions, laws, agencies, etc.  These would be easy enough to keep track of since our benevolent and protective government has announced each of these so-called measures before chucking another bucket of sand into the gears of our modus vivendi.


The response from the WSJ to my proposal was crickets.  Apparently it would have been too traumatic to display a graph of the ramp up after 9/11, and now it would simply be too revealing of the bloated police state that has been put in place to give us peace of mind.  But even more devastating would be the constant reminder to us that our government is continuing to arm its in-country agencies with draconian weaponry, and to monitor its citizens at levels unimagined just a short while ago (while breast-beating the lie that Al Qaeda is “decimated” and “on the run”).

But most Americans instinctively know that these armaments and tallies of our every move are way beyond what is a reasonable response against any terrorists, even if they attacked in company strength within our borders.  In short, the implementation and public display of my metric would be a constant and stark reminder that not only are we even close to winning any ‘war on terrorism’, but that something much more sinister is being put in place while we go on with our daily lives and worry about the economy.

Such a response to terrorism is finally being picked up by some senior national correspondents.  In the 7aug13 WSJ Ted Koppel of NBC News and NPR provides some historical perspective on terrorism and writes in ‘America’s Chronic Overreaction to Terrorism’

At home, the U.S. has constructed an antiterrorism enterprise so immense, so costly and so inexorably interwoven with the defense establishment, police and intelligence agencies, communications systems, and with social media, travel networks and their attendant security apparatus, that the idea of downsizing, let alone disbanding such a construct, is an exercise in futility.

Koppel is no rightwing conservative, far from it, yet he too sees that we have constructed more barriers and controls than are necessary to preserve our pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness.   He concludes –

But there is no way to completely eliminate terrorism. … The challenge that confronts us is how we will live with that threat. We have created an economy of fear, an industry of fear, a national psychology of fear. Al Qaeda could never have achieved that on its own. We have inflicted it on ourselves.
 
Over the coming years many more Americans will die in car crashes, of gunshot wounds inflicted by family members and by falling off ladders than from any attack by al Qaeda.
 
There is always the nightmare of terrorists acquiring and using a weapon of mass destruction. But nothing would give our terrorist enemies greater satisfaction than that we focus obsessively on that remote possibility, and restrict our lives and liberties accordingly.

[update]  The President’s propaganda on his accomplishments to have Al Qaeda “on the run” is now beyond laughable to all but the most dedicated oblivians in the country.   If anything, under Obama Al Qaeda has grown in both power and scope as the administration’s current shut down of US embassies demonstrates.  A revealing article in the 8aug13 WSJ, ‘How Al Qaeda Made Its Comeback’, from an FBI insider Mr Ali Soufan, FBI supervisory special agent, who interrogated ragheads at Guantanamo spells out how we have misapprehended the most successful Islamic terror organization in the world.

[11aug13 update]  Here’s something relevant about our impending police state.  It seems that police will soon have available the ability to turn off our smartphone recording functions (audio, video, stills) where and when they consider it necessary.  My longtime pal and fellow blogger Professor Larry Press reports (here) on Apple’s latest patent that covers this new ‘kill switch’ functionality.

[12aug13 update]  Yesterday Sen John McCain (R-AZ) was criticizing Obama’s anti-terror foreign policy in the mid-east when he again brought up the prudent advice that we have to balance our security policies against the need to preserve our freedoms.  These sober shibboleths regarding national security are now coming from all sides and shades of politicians.  The truth of the matter is that we have already forsaken the liberty side of that long-gone balance and there is no going back.  Such statements serve to salve those who have not been keeping track of our progress toward a complete autocracy.

Our minds are kept off the topic of maintaining our freedoms by the new culture of ever more intense entertainments and widely available diversions based on accelerating technology.  No one notices that these circuses are to be ‘enjoyed’ in ever narrower confines, corridors of movement, and reduced access to our surroundings.  Throw in the bread component (a la SNAP) and no one will think to look behind the curtain.  The corralling of compliant populations and constraints on commerce continue in the developed nations with every new set of regulations and global goals (e.g. A21) sold under the expanding banner of protecting the environment and ‘saving the earth’.

This combined with militarizing of the police, constructive repeal of the 2nd Amendment, and growing assaults on posse comitatus – under the complaint that we need the military to protect us from domestic terrorists – brings to mind the cocooned lifestyle that was humanity’s destiny in the movie Matrix.  The ‘war on terror’ is truly a crisis that has not been wasted by our central planners.

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80 responses to “War on Terror in Perpetuum, Amen (updated 12aug13)”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    My discussion points what is terrorism on is at least as relevant as Burning Man and you didn’t object to that.
    On the topic of local constabularies it was the the choice of the residents of Nevada County to give the Sheriffs Dept the keys to their back yard and say “come on over anytime you like”. Not a peep of opposition from our local tea party or property rights crew on that one.
    Gregory
    You’re losing it my friend. Do you honestly believe the Iran coup was about Communism? Did you read the CIA piece I posted at 11AM?

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  2. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    PaulE, so you are now a property rights activist. I notice no answer to antone else’s questions as usual. What a crack up, you want the Sheriff to stay out of your backyard but usher in the zoning police on your neighbors housing project. Too funny.

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  3. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 230pm – My apologies, I was holding you to a higher standard. BTW, did you accept my 1230pm response as at least reasonable?
    We’ve gone around the marijuana barn several times. I believe the tea partiers are more prone to sic the sheriff on pot smokers than to allow random checks for zoning violations. Not entirely logical, but it’s the best I can do. People on all sides favor their own enforcement codes on everything from abortion to spying on your cell phone conversations.

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  4. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, my friend, I’m not sure you ever had it. What a non sequitur.
    My comment was regarding your claim US policy in Iran was about Oil and nothing else. It was cold war machinations; the desire of the new Iranian government to nationalize industry that happened to be oil was a cold war red flag.
    Yes, I’ve little doubt the CIA and friends used fake commies to whip up domestic support for the coup. That doesn’t mean Eisenhower didn’t think the risk of the new regime ending up as a Soviet client was high enough to warrant the meddling. That also doesn’t mean I condone such efforts then or now, but cold war machinations have to be judged in the context they were made.

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  5. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    Gregory 2:17 — It was Scott O. in an earlier post that brought up the report drunks concept. I agree that reckless drivers should be removed from the road.. Minnesota’s signs don’t mention driving at all, but could refer to any type of behavior the witness sees as potentially suspect. My point is that such signs encourage citizens to scrutinize each other’s behavior in a suspicious manner. Doesn’t this open the door to another McCarthy like era? How many dollars will be wasted on false alarms?

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  6. Gregory Avatar

    JK, I think signs that encourage others to call 911 for drunks encourages people to help get drunks off the road.
    A McCarthy-like era has already been signaled by the likes of the new Interior Secretary saying “I hope there are no climate change deniers in the Department of Interior”. There’s a thoughtcrime for you.

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar

    George, Gregory
    I contend that organizing riots and acts of violence as part of a conscious effort to enable regime change is terrorism. You indeed contend that the goal of radical Islamists is to overthrow our way of life as part of a Jihad against the west so what’s the difference in the desired end? We achieved our goal and installed the ruthless dictator the Shah of Iran to do our bidding and to protect British petroleum interests. The rest is history with the Shah’s overthrow in 1979.
    According to William Douglas who visited Iran before and after the coup
    “For many Iranians, the coup demonstrated duplicity by the United States, which presented itself as a defender of freedom but did not hesitate to use underhanded methods to overthrow a democratically elected government to suit its own economic and strategic interests” “When Mossadegh and Persia started basic reforms, we became alarmed. We united with the British to destroy him; we succeeded; and ever since, our name has not been an honored one in the Middle East.”

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 552pm – Your contentions are getting hard to follow since you are mixing means, goals, and the aftermath opinions. You want to talk about defining terrorism? or what?
    As I have said countless times terrorism, consisting of the launch of clandestine acts of terror, is a means of violence that can be carried out sporadically in a distributed manner, or regularly as matter of policy by an organization to achieve a goal. Terror is always used in conjunction with other means of force and/or diplomacy to achieve an end.
    What the US and Great Britain did in getting rid of Mossadegh and putting the Shah in power may well have included acts of terror. But it was the coalition of Iranians supporting the Shah that finally brought about the regime change.
    Terror is what is happening in the suicide bombings around the world, 9/11, Oklahoma City, …, all acts intended to change the conduct of the targeted populations.

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    As a Supervisor way back in the 1920’s didn’t you vote for and support zoning as part of the General Plan and everyday business of managing the government? AS a Republican in those days didn’t you vote for Hoover in ’28 ?

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  10. Gregory Avatar

    “You indeed contend that the goal of radical Islamists is to overthrow our way of life as part of a Jihad against the west so what’s the difference in the desired end?”
    Paul, you’re conflating me with someone else, as you’ll not find any words of mine to that effect.

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  11. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Once again, Joe the K gets it all wrong. I never posted anything about ‘reporting drunk drivers’. If I see some one driving in a fashion that endangers the others on the road, I damn well will report them. That has nothing to do with a police state or a 1984 style govt.
    My complaint was about doing away with probable cause. The police and other govt agencies can now detain anyone driving down the road or just walking down the street.
    And yes – the greenies and the left have supported programs that allow the govt to enter your private property and snoop around.

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory 8:46
    Sorry Greg. That was meant for George as a followup to his definition of terrorism.

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  13. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 552pm re 1148pm – Great illustration of why discussion is difficult in our polarized nation – “You indeed contend that the goal of radical Islamists is to overthrow our way of life as part of a Jihad against the west so what’s the difference in the desired end?”
    1. The liberal mind’s logic equates the means if the desired end is the same. Both trains and planes get you from LA to NYC, therefore trains and planes are the same. Tough sledding.
    2. I don’t “contend” the goal of radical Islamists, I believe what they have said and repeatedly demonstrated until 1683 and resumed 20+ years ago. To accuse me and others of ‘contending’ such notions illustrates the gulf of reason between us – Great Divide and all that.
    3. Islam (both radical and the street) has no means yet to achieve its global goal through cohesive and concentrated use of overt military force. Therefore they are making advances through the means available to them – terror and colonization. The success of both depend on the blindness of the west’s progressive mentality that is serving their purposes in the misguided public policies enacted to either ignore or abet their efforts.

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  14. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    PaulE, didn’t you support NH2020? That allowed people from the government to enter your property without a warrant to inventory the species on your land. Doesn’t that conflict with your position now about marijuana?
    Oh, and I bought the corn dogs last night to settle our bet and you never showed. They are now cold, bit still edible.

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar

    Actually Todd we agree on both of these issues. I was not a supporter of NH 2020 believing it to be divisive and unnecessary. And you are a supporter of Medical Marijuana Cultivation and in opposition of the Ordinance.
    Todd writes in Sierra Dragons Breath:
    “Since I am mainly a libertarian in the issues of property rights, I probably agree with the growers (at least the ones not abusing the “medical” side of the issue) that maybe property rights are being imposed on here. Sure the people that abused the Proposition should be reigned in. Usually a few bad people are the reason a law gets passed. The bulk of the people growing MJ for personal use probably don’t abuse the law or become a nuisance to their neighbors yet they will be affected.”
    http://sierradragonsbreathe.blogspot.com/2012/05/pot-ordinance-and-nh2020-both-sides-of.html

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  16. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Paul,
    What I find interesting in Todd’s statement is the libertarian streak stops with private property but not drug laws in general even though he admits that most people would be responsible?
    It is simple, prohibition doesn’t work and creates organized crime. Drug laws are arbitrary. Why marijuana but not alcohol? Why cocaine but not nicotine?
    Watch the PBS three part series and we can substitute any drug with alcohol. I have heard parts of it but haven’t sat down and watched the entire series.
    http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    PaulE, I think my position is fairly mainstream. I do not think you are being honest in your denial of not supporting NH2020.
    Your corn dogs await you at the booth.

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  18. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    Scott O – 11:17 –“In modern times I will constantly point to the ‘war’ on drunk driving giving rise to the worst give-a-way of our freedoms” That is what you did say Scott. I guess I mistakenly assumed that the “report drunk driver” signs were a part of that war.

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar

    Nah Todd
    NH2020 was not a wise or necessary proposal. Many of us on the other side (from you) opposed it.
    Todd
    Since you support the growers how come you didn’t speak up when it was before the Supes? Do you support the Initiative to have it changed?
    You can sign the petition at the fair. Here’s more about the inatitive
    http://asa-nc.com/compare/

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  20. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Joe gets it wrong again. “That is what you did say Scott”
    First of all – I didn’t ‘say’ anything. I wrote it. Please go back and look at the post and you see 2 sentences that are connected. I clearly stated that probable cause was the Constitutional right that was given up due to the war on drunk driving.
    “It was Scott O. in an earlier post that brought up the report drunks concept”
    Clearly, I hadn’t done any such thing.
    It’s not a big deal to me, but do try to keep the facts straight.

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  21. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    George, Greg, Russ, Scott, Mickey, and my good ol’ buddy Todd,
    What do you guys think of Chief Kessler in PA?
    http:// chiefkessler.com/

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  22. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Looks like he was ‘relieved of his command’. Since he’s no where near a threat to our country as Holder or Obama, when can we expect them to be kicked out of office as well?

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    PaulE, your corndogs are still waiting for you at the booth.
    PaulE, please supply the readers here with your public pronouncements from the time on your opposition to NH2020. Also you stated there were others from your ilk that did the same. Please supply us the links so we may marvel at the opposing words these folks said. My, I bet their will be crickets.
    BenE, I have no idea who Chief Kessler is. Is he a friend of yours?

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  24. George Rebane Avatar

    True to form, California continues its efforts to become a leader among the state governments that fear their law abiding citizens.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/11/latest-bills-could-make-california-toughest-state-on-gun-control/

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  25. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Thanks for the link, George. If all of these laws are passed, who will enforce them?
    How will these new laws stop the underground sales of guns to thugs and gang bangers? How will any of these new laws make a difference to little black kids gunned down in their homes? What is the objective? Just to piss off the NRA? How are the various ‘common sense’ gun laws measured in their effectiveness in achieving the objectives? Are there any elected Dems in California state legislature with even a room temperature IQ? Will the slaughter of 20 or 30 children be OK if an approved fire arm is used? What if no firearm is used? How many white kids need to be in the mix when there is a mass shooting of school children before our POTUS will get upset? What if they don’t look like a certain person that the POTUS has in mind before it becomes an issue?

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  26. Russ Steele Avatar

    The Cellphone Kill Switch.
    Just when I was going to take the disposable cameras out of the car and truck glove box. We have been carrying them around with us ever since they appeared on the market, on the advice of family lawyer who was known to chase an accident or two in his law career. With our cellphone cameras handy, I was about remove the disposables for more space in the glove box. Guess I won’t now.

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  27. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Russ, good call. Good backup plan.
    But really, this technology to shut down the iPhone cameras is completely silly. It will be hacked, and disabled.
    Horse. Left. Barn. Assange, Snowden, and Manning are the new paradigm.
    Welcome to the 21st century. Got seatbelts?

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  28. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    George, 09 August 2013 at 09:52 AM:
    “…could your therapeutic visits be equally effective without leaving behind the sniffing comments of a self-adorned superiority?”
    Doubtful, but I’ll give it a try. I was under the impression that “self-adorned superiority” was part and parcel to your own approach at RR, so I was just following suit. My apologies.
    Russ, 08 August 2013 at 10:59 PM:
    Great link!, that was very entertaining. As you can see, many different types of people attend this event. There are AA programs, churches, and even symposiums on the fallacy of AGW. Seriously.
    Todd, 09 August 2013 at 11:18 AM:
    “…he gave it up because of the perverts and the public displays of screwing and the little kids were subject to all that.”
    Yup. And in San Diego this week a guy killed a family friend and her young son at his house, burned it down, then kidnapped the 16-yr.-old daughter and ended up in the Idaho wilderness. Therefore, I will never go to San Diego because that is how those people roll.
    Todd, you come to some completely illogical and idiotic conclusions that torture the modern mind. I have attended every single Burning Man festival since 1991–that’s 22 years–and I have NEVER witnessed open sex on the playa. NEVER. I am sure that it has happened, but it just isn’t something that I was trying to find. Perhaps your tenant was less circumspect?
    It’s still not too late for you (Todd Juvinall) to be a Huge Art Project at the airport in 2013. We have designs for a TSA presentation where you can “show yer stuff” in a Big Way. Not sure if this will involve radiation scanners, or an electron microscope. Your call, bud.
    http://www.portofentry.org/

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer
  30. George Rebane Avatar

    Please see 13aug12 update above.

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