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[Can anyone give a cogent reason why Trump is being prosecuted for speaking openly against the validity of the 2022 election that put Joe Biden in the White House?  All the man did was exercise his 1A rights, and that included asking Georgia’s governor to review his state’s vote count to see if he could come up with more Trump votes.  He blackmailed no one; he threatened no one; he just gave lip service to his opinions and beliefs to see if there was any legal and non-violent way he could change the outcome of the election.  According to our Constitution anyone can do that, and Democrats have already demonstrated that such opposition to election outcomes are perfectly legal.  gjr]

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287 responses to “Sandbox – 5aug23”

  1. Individual Juan Avatar
    Individual Juan

    Greggy@1205
    In the context of the United States Constitution, there is no specific punishment outlined for telling something later deemed a law by a court. The Constitution primarily focuses on protecting individual rights, outlining the powers and structure of government, and establishing the rule of law. The specific punishments for any given offense are typically defined in statutory or case law at the federal and state levels. If you have a specific legal concern, it’s advisable to consult with a qualified attorney familiar with the relevant laws in your jurisdiction.
    …Follow me for more legal advice

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  2. Individual Juan Avatar
    Individual Juan

    In the first sentence ‘law’ should be ‘lie’

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  3. Individual Prawn Avatar
    Individual Prawn

    “In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: The police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.”
    …Follow me for more advice about legal shit on TV.

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  4. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Blurttthpppht!
    I wouldn’t follow you for journalism tips, Jeff. Neither would anyone else.

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  5. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    What a maroon at 216 ROFLOL
    😉

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Who would think this a good idea? Well ok the dark lord of liberal lament land would. –
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/08/07/green-madness-leftist-scottish-govt-cut-down-16-million-trees-to-put-up-wind-farms/
    😉

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  7. Scott O Avatar

    Paul 12:43 – “On another topic Trump is going to spend over 60,000,000 on his legal defense which will come from the likes of Scott, Gregory, fishhole and Bessee,…”
    More lies from Paul Emery.
    Did you lie like this when you read the news at KVMR – is that why they threw you out?

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott
    According to the Washington Post Trump has spend $40 million in legal fee’s just this year so far and that’s just part of it.
    “WASHINGTON, July 30 (Reuters) – Former U.S. President Donald Trump’s political action committee is expected to report on Monday that it has spent about $40 million in legal fees in the first half of 2023 to defend Trump and his advisers, among others, the Washington Post reported.
    The New York Times separately reported that the PAC has sought the return of $60 million it made to another group supporting Trump, a candidate for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.”
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/former-us-president-trump-has-spent-40-million-legal-fees-reports-2023-07-30/

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  9. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    scotto
    “Did you lie like this when you read the news at KVMR – is that why they threw you out?”
    A reckless disregard for the truth doesn’t just happen.
    I’ve never made a contribution to ANY Republican political campaign… but Punchy keeps punching the same places anyway.

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  10. Scott O Avatar

    Sure glad that Biden has that debt problem under control:
    “…the US Treasury Department’s quarterly net-borrowing estimates for the second half of 2023 just came out, and that number is a sickening $1.85 TRILLION.”
    And that doesn’t include the trillions that will be needed to pay it back.
    Almost 2T in 6 months.
    Don’t worry – our Treasury Dept’s printing presses are the fastest in the world.
    “So, there you have it, American monetary genius: “We can solve a debt problem with more debt.””
    Isn’t that what American nit-wits do when they max their credit card – go get another card?
    The funniest part is that the leftists will complain that the “rich are getting richer”.
    Well – DUH!!!!
    That equates to the slob that hangs around his back yard swilling beer complaining that his neighbor that goes to the gym keeps getting fitter while he just gets fatter.
    It just ain’t fair!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/keeping-your-head-amidst-debt-blind-madness
    “In fact, debt destroys nations. And not just sometimes, but every time.
    Such destruction, hiding in plain sight, is creepy, because, well…it creeps up on us slowly, and then—all at once.”

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  11. Scott O Avatar

    Gregory 5:12 – “I’ve never made a contribution to ANY Republican political campaign…”
    And Paul Emery has been informed of that about you and myself on more than one occasion, yet he continues his open barrage of lies here in a public square arena on a regular basis.
    I would think KVMR was aware of his lack of honesty and that they would be prone to remove him from their ranks.

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    You contribute by your silence and lack of support to any Libertarian principals when it comes to Trump when you refuse to speak out against him. For example the Libertarians claim to support the Constitution yet when Trump openly ignores it when he tries to steal the election by advocating fake electors intended to be installed when Pence halts the election process, which fortunately he refused to do, you are silent.

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  13. fishanthrope Avatar
    fishanthrope

    “You contribute by your silence and lack of support to any Libertarian principals when it comes to Trump when you refuse to speak out against him.”
    Absolutely no point in listening to a partisan progressive democrat scold anyone about being a proper libertarian.
    Go cadge drinks somewhere else……

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  14. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The po ol ponytail of ignorance thinks he is now the thought police when just a #sadoldman @ 610 and has his mush between the ears is all Trump all the time. ROFLOL
    😉

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  15. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Wouldn’t you if you could! –
    Multnomah County, Oregon, lost 14,257 taxpayers, which resulted in a $1 billion loss in tax revenue, according to local media.
    The Democrat-run city of Portland is in Multnomah County, and that’s where most of these losses came from.
    That 14,257 number is not the city’s net population loss. That is merely the number of tax filers who fled. You can bet their families went with them.
    What is especially interesting about this news is who is leaving: “The average income of Multnomah County residents who moved away in 2020, the most recent figure available, was 14% higher than of those who moved the year prior[.]”
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/07/nolte-democrat-run-portlands-wealthiest-taxpayers-are-fleeing/
    😉

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I do give Gregory credit for using his real name in his posts which is more than what fishhole will do because he’s ashamed of letting his friends, family and colleagues know he’s a die hard Trumpster.

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  17. Individual Juan Avatar
    Individual Juan

    LoL! To Scotty (beam me up from Cali, please, so I can live in the subdivisions of Idaho designed by Cali billionaire developers), and Greggy who self-identifies as an Independent along with Polluted Prawn, are on Paul like a couple of bums fighting over a baloney sandwich…
    These Jag Offs circle about Paul going on about “Lies”, yet these same Jag Offs would have you believe that Trump is worth defending after at least 40,000 “misstatements”. Rotflmao!They a dying breed of brain washed fools.

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  18. 🐠 Avatar
    🐠

    ….yawn.

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  19. Scott O Avatar

    Juan 7:38 – “the subdivisions of Idaho designed by Cali billionaire developers),”
    Actually, no idiot, but really – is that all you have now?
    That is one of the most pathetic and ineffectual attacks I’ve ever heard in my life.
    Next you’ll accuse me of driving cars put together by Indiana farm boys.
    This is beyond hysterical.
    You have no idea of what you’re talking about.
    We’re going on about lies because Paul Emery is a liar and he posts lies on a regular basis here.
    If you really wanted to mount an effective rebuttal (as if you could mount anything) you would post some sort of cogent argument that responded to our posts.
    BTW – our sub was “designed” by Idaho natives, as were the builder and his agent.
    What a tub of idiot blubber.
    Go back to your Ripple and your case of Lil Debbies.

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  20. Scott O Avatar

    George – where do you find these people? I thought Hollywood actors were on strike?

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  21. Scott O Avatar

    Don 7:10 – Not to worry, man. They’ll make up for it with GREAT FEELZ!

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  22. Scott O Avatar

    Well – it looks like the border states “stunts” have come good.
    NY City has to deal with a fraction of what small Texas cities deal with on a regular basis.
    “State of Emergency!!!”
    Even the Dems are fed up with the lies.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYC5VAx1iWk

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  23. Scott O Avatar

    Uh oh. The black Dem mayor of NY is going all Trumpian.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYC5VAx1iWk
    Remember when they called the border states sending the illegals to Dem cities “stunts”?
    Looks like they worked out just fine.

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  24. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Creepy grampa joes chip off the old block of crime family –
    Schweizer said, “He stepped down [from] the board because they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Hunter Biden joined this board and got an equity stake in this Chinese government-funded financial firm shortly after he was in China on Air Force Two with his father, where he introduced his business partner, his Chinese business partner to his father. He gave up his board position, his visible board position because the book ‘Secret Empires’ — which you and I talked about in 2018, Laura — exposed this relationship. He stepped back from the board, but he retained his ownership stake, which scholars at the University of Chicago estimate was about a $20 million worth for Hunter Biden. So, it was a sweetheart deal for Hunter, no question about it.”
    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/08/07/schweizer-hunter-quit-chinese-board-because-i-caught-him-in-my-book-not-because-of-integrity-as-joe-claimed/
    😉

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  25. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    More evidence that Nevada County is solid Blue!
    From the Nevada County Democratic Party:
    The Adam Schiff Event of Tuesday, August 8, 2023, at the Center of the
    Arts in Grass Valley has been completely sold out.
    NO TICKETS WILL SOLD AT THE DOOR.
    Congressman and candidate for the US Senate, Adam Schiff, will be speaking at the Center and meeting voters to listen and address their concerns. The event will be reported on later by Yubanet and KVMR, and the Union newspaper(possibly other outlets, but they haven’t informed us as yet).
    We are continuing to try to get the other 2 prominent Democratic candidates, Katie Porter and Barbara Lee up to Nevada County. Both are also sitting members of Congress, and running for Diane Feinstein’s seat in the US Senate.

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    By the way that’s 500 plus tickets

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  27. Scott O Avatar

    Hilarious! Paul is shilling for a Dem liar.
    Gee Paul – why doncha ask Shit-lips about his proof of Trump conspiring with the Ruskies?
    He keeps saying he has the proof.
    Maybe ask him about his censure?
    Paul – “I’m a Green Libertarian”
    No you aren’t, Paul – you’re a lying, Donkey-Ass Licker.

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  28. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punch 942p
    “More evidence that Nevada County is solid Blue!”
    Selling 500 tix to see an infamous Dem liar would be evidence of Nirvana County being solid blue if the total voting population was 700.
    Punch… you remain an idiot.

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  29. 🐠 Avatar
    🐠

    More evidence that Nevada County is solid Blue!
    Well I guess you’ve come out of the closet about being a progressive democrat.
    And thanks in advance for agreeing with me.

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  30. The Estonian Fox Avatar
    The Estonian Fox

    DB at 07:10 PM
    Those numbers from Breitbart don’t make sense. Let’s say that it’s just the city of Portland. That comes to ($1B/14,000) = $70,000 loss of tax revenue per taxfiler. That’s a lot of local income and sales tax. What would be the federal taxes those folks would be paying, maybe 5 times the total local income taxes, so $350K in Fed taxes? That value of course wouldn’t change since they will pay the same Fed tax as a resident of Idaho or Mississippi. $350K Fed tax would mean income of $1+M or so. That has to be a large part of the millionaire population of the Portland area.
    From Google search, there were 5,520 Oregonians with incomes of $1 million or more who filed 2020 tax returns. And the Portland area would maybe have half of those millionaires.
    So losing 14,000+ taxfilers – they are no way all $1M-aires.
    Can’t be all housing taxes either, since generally some other taxpayer eventually moves into a sold home to account for some or most of the lost real estate tax.
    So Breitbart meant a loss of INCOME that COULD BE taxed, not income taxes. Makes more sense. So Portland didn’t lose $1B of tax money from their $7.1B budget, but $1B of income that COULD BE taxed at Portland’s rate of ?? 1%, 3%??, a much smaller part of the $7.1B budget. Exaggeration doesn’t help to make their point.

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  31. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Serial fabulist Adam Schiff made a campaign stop in Grass Valley last night with his eye on DiFi’s seat in the Senate.
    Money money money money.
    Looking for a recording or a transcript.

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  32. fishanthrope Avatar
    fishanthrope

    She sounds like The Man of a Thousand Different Spellings in drag.

    Nancy Pelosi Declares America Will Cease To Exist If Trump Becomes President Again

    Find your own damn link…..! Oh that’s right…..you don’t read links.

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  33. fishanthrope Avatar
    fishanthrope

    You know what this means don’t you……

    GERMANY: Sex Education Group Recommends Daycares Create “Sexual Games” and Nude “Exploration Rooms”

    It means that right this very moment that Cereal Liar is trying to book a flight to Germany…..

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  34. Individual Prawn Avatar
    Individual Prawn

    Absolutely horrible news….

    FALL PREVIEW: Streisand Memoir Cut Back to Less Than 1,000 Pages…

    Women , minorities, and jeffy (in all his various guises) hardest hit.

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  35. Scott O Avatar

    “Nancy Pelosi Declares America Will Cease To Exist If Trump Becomes President Again”
    Is there no end to his super-powers?

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  36. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy
    “You contribute by your silence and lack of support to any Libertarian principals when it comes to Trump when you refuse to speak out against him.”
    That’s principles, not principals. You don’t know the difference, which is one big reason why I don’t follow you into your partisan dogpiles.

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Another grammar scolding from Gregory, RR’s resident fake Libertarian. That’s about all he can do as a response to the statement I posted.

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  38. 🐠 Avatar
    🐠

    Another grammar scolding from Gregory, RR’s resident fake Libertarian. That’s about all he can do as a response to the statement I posted.
    You’re RR’s fake Libertarian.

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  39. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Bidenomics is a steaming pile of bullshit –
    Americans are pulling money out of their 401(k) plans at an alarming rate
    The number of people who made a hardship withdrawal during the second quarter surged from the first three months of the year to 15,950, an increase of 36% from the second quarter of 2022, according to Bank of America’s analysis of clients’ employee benefits programs, which are comprised of more than 4 million plan participants.
    It’s a “pretty troubling” development if more people are resorting to making hardship withdrawals, Matt Schulz, chief credit analyst at LendingTree, told CNN.
    Bank of America’s latest Participant Pulse report also found that a greater percentage of participants borrowed from their workplace plans from the first quarter, and average contributions trailed off as well.
    https://currently.att.yahoo.com/finance/news/americans-pulling-money-401-k-134922534.html
    😉

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The delicious irony –
    More allegations against Lizzo surface in wake of lawsuit alleging harassment, weight-shaming
    https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/more-allegations-against-lizzo-surface-035531332.html
    😉

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  41. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Only in creepy grampa joes crime family and the elitists world is that grassroots –
    Kamala Harris to hold ‘grassroots reception’ on wealthy Martha’s Vineyard
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-hold-grassroots-reception-wealthy-marthas-vineyard
    😉

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    It wasn’t a grammar scolding, Punch. It was an “English… do you speak it, motherfucker?” scolding. (pop culture reference)
    Did you ever think Trump was a Russian asset? If so, when did you stop?

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Here’s one for you Gregory bringing back the fact that the Russians were cheering Trumps win over Hillary.
    Reactions in Moscow to Donald Trump’s victory in the US presidential election can only be described as “euphoric,” according to veteran Moscow correspondent Charles Maynes.
    “Russian elites from Putin on down have been absolutely thrilled with the result,” says Maynes. “For example, in the Duma — the Russian parliament — when the results were announced that Mr. Trump had triumphed, lawmakers broke out into applause.”
    Nationalist leader Vladimir Zhirinovksy poured champagne for his fellow lawmakers. The patriarch of the Russian Orthodox church called on God to help Trump govern.
    https://theworld.org/stories/2016-11-09/russian-leaders-literally-cheer-trumps-victory

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  44. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    In short, Paul Emery STILL thinks Trump was a Russian asset.
    Reality is that was a fib concocted by the Hillary campaign.

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  45. fishanthrope Avatar
    fishanthrope

    Here’s one for you Gregory bringing back the fact that the Russians were cheering Trumps win over Hillary.
    Here’s one for you Gregory he who has no name not answering your question again.

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well Gregory the Russians including Putin sure seemed to like Trump and favor him over Hillary. What does that mean to you?

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  47. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    It means Hillary was and remains a lying bitch.
    And then there was the laptop… was that a Russian disinformation attempt as Clapper and Brennan were claiming every day on tv news… or was it really Hunter Biden’s laptop with Hunter Biden’s information on the drive?
    ANYONE who still thinks Putin and Trump were joined at the hip is oblivious to Reality. Is that you, Punchy?

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  48. 🐠 Avatar
    🐠

    Is that you, Punchy?
    This shows every indication as being as entertaining as the time it took me three full days of Punchy Badgering to get him to admit that the Antifa types in Portland who decided to kick an unconscious man in the head while he was facedown in the street was in fact…..a bad thing.

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