276 responses to “Sandbox – 20jun23”

1. 

   Gregory

   20 June 2023

   Fresh litter!
   I’d still like an answer from Crabbman.
   I was at a children’s theater performance where a parent and grandparents were faced with a child (age 11) trying on a brand spanking new gender identity, with no warning… gone are the days where such things were shared beforehand.

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   scenes

   20 June 2023

   Fair warning to everyone on the strategy book. It’s largely about strategists, not strategy.
   The real deal is cheap and readily available. For one thing, I’d say that Alfred Mahan probably has more to do with the modern world than any other single writer besides Marx.
   re: Transkids.
   I wonder sometimes, given the easy comparisons to be made between ‘Woke’ and religions, if the transkids represent something really special in the Progressive Cosmology. Something between an angel and a crazy holy man. Mock them or try to save them at your peril as the avenging mob is easily ginned up.
   re: an interesting one to check out while watching the Decline of the West in Action. The civil war within the Methodist Church as the old school folks and the newfangled not-really-all-that-interested-in-Jesus factions stake out their turf.
   I hadn’t thought about it for a while, and then ran into this.
   https://yubanet.com/regional/nevada-city-united-methodist-church-becomes-a-reconciling-congregation/
   Naturally, all the details of these fights are exhausting to think about. Primates can dream up some pretty complicated belief systems.

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   Don Bessee

   20 June 2023

   There is actually a price in the real world –
   https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/06/20/nolte-wall-street-bets-against-democrat-run-downtowns/
   😉

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   fishanthrope

   20 June 2023

   Posted by: scenes | 20 June 2023 at 12:49 PM
   re: an interesting one to check out while watching the Decline of the West in Action. The civil war within the Methodist Church as the old school folks and the newfangled not-really-all-that-interested-in-Jesus factions stake out their turf.
   I hadn’t thought about it for a while, and then ran into this.
   <a href="https://yubanet.com/regional/nevada-city-united-methodist-church-becomes-a-reconciling-congregation/“>https://yubanet.com/regional/nevada-city-united-methodist-church-becomes-a-reconciling-congregation/
   The Summer of Floyd seems to have broken the protestant religious. Not that I care who they welcome into the congegration. Watch for the new lesbian pastor to seal the deal!

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   Don Bessee

   20 June 2023

   Hangin with the epstien bro is creepy grampa joe –
   Biden attends Silicon Valley fundraiser hosted by billionaire who traveled to Jeffrey Epstein’s island
   https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/biden-attends-silicon-valley-fundraiser-042457461.html
   😉

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6. 

   The Estonian Fox

   20 June 2023

   Should Biden choose Fetterman for 2024?
   Or should he pick Al Gore?
   Solve that quick,
   Pick the two who are anencephalic!
   Special thanks to Sam Clemens for the thought.

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7. 

   Gregory

   20 June 2023

   I’d still like an answer from Crabbman.
   Crabby… put yourself in the shoes of the parents and grandparents of a child on stage in a gender that they were not born to. The folks who love the child didn’t have a clue it was coming, but the theater folk running the program DID.
   Now, I know you’ve never been involved in a child’s life as a parent or a grandparent… but just what was that ‘toon trying to state?

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   Gregory

   20 June 2023

   scenes re ‘transkids’
   It is intended as a destabilisation of family. More of the same as Traditional and Critical Theory, Horkheimer 1937, the document that sent the Frankfurt School down the Critical path.
   Children belong with and to their parents. Not to the federal, state or local governments.

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9. 

   scenes

   20 June 2023

   re: ‘It is intended as a destabilisation of family.’
   Making children view The State or any social movement as family is a tricky business. Making an omelette requires a certain amount of damage to eggs after all.
   There’s probably a book in that somewhere, whether it’s the way that the Spartans or Zulus operated, selling off slave children, forced boarding schools for Native Americans, or simply a high degree of propaganda stuffed down a kid’s maw ala Pavlik Morozov.
   This modern variant seems rather new to me in that it is taking advantage of wide-spread mental illness (anxiety, etc.) among youth. Why? No doubt there’s a bit of cyclical madness going on, but it’s hard to avoid the internet, particularly the portable variety, as a prime mover. Given you are starting with an unusually fragile generation, pushing them off the cliff seems easy enough.
   I can’t blame the ‘Progressives’ for taking advantage of the situation, but then I can’t blame The Devil for occasionally using good lookin’ wimmen.

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10. 

    Scott O

    20 June 2023

    Newsweek is trying to be honest:
    “By pleading guilty, Hunter Biden robbed the narratives around his crimes of additional oxygen, helping hurry the story into obscurity.”
    Into obscurity…
    Ah, yes – let’s push history into obscurity. That’s the way we do it.
    The funniest part of this is watching all the lefty black “leaders” swallowing another case of a wealthy white boy getting a slap on the wrist for what black men go to prison for. Where are the brave civil rights leaders, now?
    So, it has turned out much as I predicted. A back room deal with greatly watered-down charges and plea-bargained penalties amounting to nothing and announced at just the correct time.
    Perfect.
    If.
    The House Rs don’t manage to stumble onto the money trail from overseas to the US.
    Look – any half witted DA could have nailed Hunter’s ass years ago just on the gun charge. He was never going to jail nor will any other Dem, save a possible predetermined scapegoat. Biden just might end up having to pardon his son.
    https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-saves-joe-biden-political-nightmare-1807974

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11. 

    scenes

    20 June 2023

    “Should Biden choose Fetterman for 2024?
    Or should he pick Al Gore?”
    My mental image is Jerry Nadler riding around on Fetterman’s shoulders.
    WHO RUN BARTERTOWN?

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12. 

    Gregory

    20 June 2023

    “It’s past time for schools to quit being baby-sitters and substitutes for under-performing parents, and direct that energy to students who want to learn. Opposing passage of SB 274 would be one place to start.”
    Bored Georgeman in today’s The Union.
    What about schools quitting being baby sitters for failed instructors and lying administrators? I’ve had experience with both right here in River City.

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13. 

    Don Bessee

    20 June 2023

    Criminal coddlers they be –
    As opioids kill more Californians than guns, liberal Democrats block solutions
    https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/opioids-kill-more-californians-guns-120000799.html
    😉

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14. 

    Don Bessee

    20 June 2023

    Wimps not warriors –
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/inside-the-woke-takeover-of-the-us-air-force-academy/ar-AA1cMOCT?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=45e4f5441d224810a0ca85605a64174e&ei=48
    😉

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15. 

    fishanthrope

    21 June 2023

    It’s the Gump brothers…..Forrest and…um ….Forrest.
    https://news.yahoo.com/newsom-gives-political-boost-biden-220013767.html

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    Paul Emery

    21 June 2023

    Scott writes “Biden just might end up having to pardon his son”
    You mean just like Trump pardoned Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Scooter Libby and dozens of others? He has also promised to pardon possibly hundreds of Jan 6 rioters including Proud boys etc if re-elected. I don’t recall Scott, Bessee, fishhole or Gregory complaining about that. Correct me if I’m wrong showing that any of you opposed any of Trumps pardons. Trump granted 237 acts of clemency during his four years in the White House, including 143 pardons and 94 commutations.
    https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-donald-j-trump-2017-2021

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    Gregory

    21 June 2023

    punchy 1154a
    “Obama holds the record for the largest single-day use of the clemency power, granting 330 commutations on January 19, 2017, his last full day in office.[6][7] He also issued more commutations than the past 13 presidents combined.[2][8]”
    The more pardons for Jan 6 the merrier.

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    Paul Emery

    21 June 2023

    Gregory writes:
    “The more pardons for Jan 6 the merrier.”
    So Gregory you would have no problem if a group of people smashed down the doors and windows and overwhelmed police and security while breaking into your house, also being followed by hundreds of followers who would then loot your personal offices stealing personal records and information. That’s exactly what happened on Jan 6 and you believe they should be pardoned,

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    Gregory

    21 June 2023

    How many Facist Antifa rioters were not even charged in the Summer of 2020? Punch? Folks starting fires in Federal buildings under the cover of RIOTS.
    VP Harris was even bailing them out so they could get back into the fight.

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20. 

    fishanthrope

    21 June 2023

    Posted by: psul Emery | 21 June 2023 at 11:54 AM
    I don’t recall Scott, Bessee, fishhole or Gregory complaining about that.
    You used to complain about lying politicians…..worst thing ever if I recall correctly! George what about….but George what about….and George did you hear about….and who could forget the plaintive wail….So (insert name here) you think it’s (insert psul Emery outrage of the day here) okay…..!
    How’s that been going recently….. still plenty to work with?

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21. 

    fishanthrope

    21 June 2023

    Posted by: Gregory | 21 June 2023 at 12:52 PM
    VP Harris was even bailing them out so they could get back into the fight.
    But that’s different because ….SHUT UP!

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22. 

    Don Bessee

    21 June 2023

    The groomers at disney have destroyed pixar with the woke formula –
    Pixar’s ‘Elemental’ Falls Flat in Box Office: Opens to Record-Worst $29.6M
    https://currently.att.yahoo.com/entertainment/pixars-elemental-falls-flat-box-191421419.html
    😉

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23. 

    Don Bessee

    21 June 2023

    Gee what could go wrong? –
    OceanGate CEO explains why he didn’t want to hire ’50-year-old White guys’ to pilot subs
    OceanGate Expeditions CEO Stockton Rush said ex-military submariners weren’t ‘inspirational’
    OceanGate Expeditions CEO Stockton Rush, who is aboard the missing submersible, once explained why he preferred not to hire “50-year-old White guys” with military experience to pilot his company’s vessels.
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/oceangate-ceo-explains-why-he-didnt-want-hire-50-year-old-white-guys-pilot-subs
    😉

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24. 

    Paul Emery

    21 June 2023

    Gregory
    What does you’re 12:52 have to do with your desire to support pardons for the invaders of the US Capital on Jan 6? That’s a very clumsy diversion by changing the topic. Once again can you confirm that you are a supporter of pardons to the hundreds of rioters who invaded the US Capital on Jan 6 2021.
    Your quote:
    “The more pardons for Jan 6 the merrier.”

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25. 

    fishanthrope

    21 June 2023

    Posted by: psul Emery | 21 June 2023 at 01:21 PM
    “The more pardons for Jan 6 the merrier.”
    Don’t you think they should at least pardon all the FBI infiltrators/instigators psul?

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26. 

    Gregory

    21 June 2023

    So, Punchy approves of violent rioters who were trying to burn down Federal buildings not even getting arraigned. Figures.
    So now the American citizens demonstrating on Jan 6 are “invaders”. Really, Paul? Of the ~1000, how many were armed, and how many can be assumed to be the owners of at least one gun? Why do you think so few gun owners would show up for an invasion armed?
    BTW I do not approve of the murderer of Airman Babbitt getting the same treatment. Nor do I think that any of the rioters should have preferentual treatment… but if the hard Left are not getting charged at all, the Right shouldn’t, either.

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27. 

    Paul Emery

    21 June 2023

    fishhole
    Do you have specific names of the FBI infiltrators/instigators you refer to in your 1:33?

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28. 

    Gregory

    21 June 2023

    “Parading, demonstrating or picketing in a Capitol building”
    Wow, that seems to be the most common charge that’s been sticking. Why not pardon those if the Vice President was involved in springing from jail folks that were setting fires and trying to hurt people?

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29. 

    scenes

    21 June 2023

    “Parading, demonstrating or picketing in a Capitol building”
    Huh. I didn’t even know that was a thing.
    Did they ever charge those folks who made a big ol’ fuss in the Supreme Court? Is that not a ‘capitol building’ maybe?
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/protests-build-capitol-hill-ahead-brett-kavanaugh-vote-n917351?cid=par-aff-gray
    maybe compare sentencing for the people actually arrested?
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/13/ocasio-cortez-climate-protestors-push-pelosi-962915
    https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/25/politics/senate-gallery-protesters-health-care/index.html
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-protests-idUSKBN1JO173
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/protesters-wheelchairs-removed-police-disrupting-graham-cassidy-bill/story?id=50081992

    It’s pretty hard to argue that the deck isn’t stacked and it might behoove Team Red (ie. the not-insane people) to rethink their strategies.

    What seems the most funny to me is how conservatives actually thought the national cops were on their side all these years. Instead we get the 17 intelligence agencies lying their asses off about collusion. One of the truly great things in life is to be proven utterly wrong.

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30. 

    fishanthrope

    21 June 2023

    Posted by: psul Emery | 21 June 2023 at 01:49 PM
    Do you have specific names of the FBI infiltrators/instigators you refer to in your 1:33?
    Crap….ate my first response!
    Specific names….certainly not. Bureau wouldn’t give specific names (they’ll need those guys again later for more hijinks). Reference to bureau personnel and contractors being present in the crowd was in the congressional session testimony regarding the events on the 6th. Easy enough for a man of you considerable skill to find online.

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31. 

    Gregory

    21 June 2023

    punchhole-E
    Bison Boi got a stiff sentence for being a walking joke.

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32. 

    scenes

    21 June 2023

    “punchhole-E”
    I read that as ‘punchholio’, which isn’t such a bad name.
    “Bison Boi got a stiff sentence for being a walking joke. ”
    Wasn’t that the case where the defense was never given access to the video footage of him being let in and shown around? That right there should be a shot across everyone’s bow as to the way the world works.

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33. 

    fishanthrope

    21 June 2023

    Posted by: scenes | 21 June 2023 at 02:58 PM
    Wasn’t that the case where the defense was never given access to the video footage of him being let in and shown around? That right there should be a shot across everyone’s bow as to the way the world works.
    But names scenes….specific names…!
    Whoda thunk Mr. Stalwart Man about Town, psul Emery would go so completely establishment in his dotage? Someone’s going to catch him in white patent leather white shoes and belt….and leisure suit of course! Hair (such as it is) all slicked back or pushed to one side….all respectable like…..!
    His friends won’t recognize him!

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34. 

    Paul Emery

    21 June 2023

    fishole
    Easy enough for a person of your intelligence and education to provide a link to verify your contentions. If you don’t provide that I will assume you’re making it up.
    Gregory
    Did “Bison Bol” illegally enter the Capitol building on Jan 6? Yes or no.

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35. 

    Don Bessee

    21 June 2023

    As if he even reads them much less understand @338!
    😉

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36. 

    Gregory

    21 June 2023

    Sorry, PunchHole-E, you don’t get to demand particular answers.
    He was let in and led around by orificers. And as has been mentioned, video of it was withheld by the persecution. His lawyers had to wait for it to be shown on TV, after the schmuck had been cooling his heels in the hoosegow.
    So, why do you hate the guy so much?

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37. 

    🐠

    21 June 2023

    Posted by: psul Emery | 21 June 2023 at 03:38 PM
    You can assume whatever you want psul.

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38. 

    scenes

    21 June 2023

    “Did “Bison Bol” illegally enter the Capitol building on Jan 6? Yes or no.”
    I admit that it doesn’t really look like it, but then the truth is that those folks can always arrest you any time they like.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs-il4uS5mM

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39. 

    Scott O

    21 June 2023

    Paul – “That’s a very clumsy diversion by changing the topic.”
    Absolutely hilarious. Paul is so dim witted he accuses others of the exact thing that he had done when he responded to my post about Biden possibly having to pardon his son.
    I was talking about the Bidens and the ongoing investigation of the money trail from the Ukraine to shell corps in the US.
    Does Paul want to discuss that?
    Hmmm?
    Nah – as usual – Trump, Trump, Trump….

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40. 

    Don Bessee

    21 June 2023

    Thank God someone in leadership is acknowledging the truth –
    “Based on my travels and conversations with Airmen of all ranks I have noticed a common concern regarding standards,” Chief Master Sgt. of the Air Force JoAnne S. Bass wrote in a memorandum to members Tuesday. “History shows that when standards erode, military capabilities and readiness decline.”
    The letter comes as all branches of the military have faced questions over the seemingly “woke” turn the country’s armed forces have taken in recent years, with some critics arguing that prioritizing programs such as diversity, equity and inclusion over standards and training have left the country ill-equipped to win future conflicts.
    The concern over falling behind rivals was apparently shared by Bass, who warned a decline in standards would leave it more difficult to “keep pace with the rapid expansion of the Chinese military, Russian aggression, and other emerging global challenges.”
    “In our profession, second best won’t cut it,” Bass said in the memorandum. “We must hold ourselves and others accountable. When any of us walk by or tolerate something below high standards, we damage our credibility.”
    https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/top-air-force-leader-raises-143437071.html
    😉

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    Paul Emery

    21 June 2023

    Gregory
    Can you provide me with a link showing “Bison Bol” being ” let in and led around by orificers” as you contend? Where did you get that information?

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42. 

    Don Bessee

    21 June 2023

    Wallowing in ignorance again is the ponytail of ignorance @532
    😉

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43. 

    Paul Emery

    21 June 2023

    RE Scott 5:10
    That has been investigated Scott and it has been shown to have no substance according to the Duram investigation and others. Not one indictment. It’s all fake and phony stuff.

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    Scott O

    21 June 2023

    Paul – you are confused, per usual. The Durham report found there was no substance to the phony Trump/Russian collusion story that you totally bought into. Further he found there was never any reason for there to be any investigation in the first place. It was a BS story cooked up by the Dems and carried forward by the corrupt FBI who knew it was phony and lied to the FISA judge to harass Trump needlessly.
    There is a report by a paid FBI informant that the Biden family got 10 million from Ukraine and funneled the money back into the US through shell S-corps.
    The FBI openly lied in public claiming that such a report did not exist and then tried to withhold the document from House scrutiny.
    Of course there will be no indictment.
    The Justice Dept is corrupt.
    Corrupt DAs don’t indict themselves.
    The fake and phony stuff is the lie you banged on about for years. You are the idiot dupe and you won’t admit it.
    What a maroon!

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45. 

    Scott O

    21 June 2023

    re Paul 5:32 – “Can you provide me with a link…”
    You have stated you won’t follow links, Paul.

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46. 

    scenes

    21 June 2023

    ”
    re Paul 5:32 – “Can you provide me with a link…”
    You have stated you won’t follow links, Paul.”
    roflmao. I put up that very link at 3:55PM, naturally it’s not even glanced at. It’s like arguing with a mule.

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47. 

    scenes

    21 June 2023

    Durham:
    “In short, it is the Office’s
    assessment that the FBI discounted or willfully ignored material information that did not support
    the narrative of a collusive relationship between Trump and Russia. Similarly, the FBI
    Inspection Division Report says that the investigators “repeatedly ignore[ d] or explain[ed] away
    evidence contrary to the theory the Trump campaign … had conspired with Russia …. It
    appeared that … there was a pattern of assuming nefarious intent.”
    psul: “Not one indictment.”
    You know, that really got me thinking. Is everything legal, or even a smaller subset, anything that doesn’t result in official charges, moral? This is the lesson the Right really needs to learn. What matters is winning, not being correct. Team Blue plays by the rules of victory uber alles and if you don’t respond in kind, you are screwed.
    Moderate Republicans are like the Mensheviks thinking they can negotiate with the Bolsheviks. In truth, it’s simply another pathway to the camps.

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48. 

    Scott O

    21 June 2023

    scenes – “Moderate Republicans are like the Mensheviks…”
    Most are actually in on the deal. They make noises once in a while to keep up the facade. It’s like the political cartoon I saw recently where the Dem airline pilot is arguing with the R co-pilot while the view out the front window is the rapidly approaching earth. The R co-pilot is insisting that he can do a better job because he will lower the airspeed of the craft on its present course.

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49. 

    Paul Emery

    21 June 2023

    I always follow links if I request them scenes and they are not provided. Don’t use that for an excuse for making things up that are not factual.

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50. 

    Don Bessee

    21 June 2023

    A big one handed clap for the comic stylings of the great ponytail of ignorance @805 ROFLOL!
    😉

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