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[I suppose the one-sided discussion of Trump’s purported lies and lying will continue (Biden’s lies are off limits).  Have any of the discussants considered what possible rewarding endpoints there are to such an ongoing debate that is now easily several years old?

In a 2024 Trump/Newsom contest, who would ever want to vote for a lying politician who has no other accomplishment besides always raising taxes and increasing regulations?  gjr]

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  1. Agent A424G16 Avatar
    Agent A424G16

    Posted by: Jose Koyote | 28 July 2022 at 11:45 AM
    Guilty as charged….. wink,wink…..Jose.

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yeah Jose I’ve got lots of work to do but I’m very concerned about who fish is because he agrees completely with Russian State TV propoganda and does not use his real name.

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  3. ps🐠 Avatar
    ps🐠

    Posted by: psul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 11:52 AM
    Oooh….sick burn 🔥 psul.

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I remember when that wack job Kenny Johnston (or Mr. Oxnardo Wilson) over on The Union accused Gregory of being a Russian bot because he did not know who he was, ROFLMAO.
    The kicker was when the resident Defender of Ms. Cooke said he knows a computer professor down at Cal State Channel Islands or Fresno or some college that told him that Russian bots cannot lie. Therefore, if you ask them if they are a Russian bot, they have to answer yes. Oh my, whose shoe does one have to scrap off to find those wackos.
    We are all in Putin’s pocket now. Hunter gave Putin plenty of blackmail material and Putin is cornholing the 17 intelligent agencies as well as Biden. That Putin sure knows how to bugger the Dems.

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  5. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 756am – Here Paul, try this to see the labyrinth of Capitol police control, and tell us J6 is all a simple matter of Trump’s fault.
    https://www.city-journal.org/fixing-the-capitol-police
    The Legislative Branch is responsible for the security of its own facilities in the District of Columbia. FN and several other sources have reduced this down to the most powerful politician in the Legislative Branch, namely the Speaker of the House.

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  6. Jose Raul Dominques Koyote. Avatar
    Jose Raul Dominques Koyote.

    @ 11:53
    My name is Jose Koyote, not Jose. Please address me by my preferred name, gringo olive picker.

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  7. Psul Krugg Avatar
    Psul Krugg

    For your reading TDS pleasure
    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-news/

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    And the President is the top law enforcement officer in the country who in this case chose to watch TV and be as live witness to the mob that broke into the Capitol and threatened the lives of our elected Representatives. All he had to do was pick up the phone which he refused to do.
    Pelosi’s roll is largely administrative and does not involve daily activity which are covered by the The United States Capitol Police (USCP) and overseen by the Capitol Police Board and has Congressional oversight by appropriations and authorizing committees from the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate. This oversight affords the Department the support and opportunity to continually ensure that the USCP meets the safety and security needs of the Congress, the staff, and the many visitors who come to the United States Capitol each day.
    https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    Paul, actually the top law enforcement officer of the country is the AG; even the Dems have made that clear. Trump has the same administrative role for law enforcement in the Executive Branch as does the Speaker in the Legislative Branch. However you argue it, the J6 security matter is not the simplistic case that Dem grassroots are being taught daily.

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  10. Biker Bill Avatar
    Biker Bill

    Tucker, the most hated man in Amerika.
    https://fb.watch/eyDb2n_I-4/

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  11. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Are you saying George that Trump didn’t have the authority to pick up the phone or whatever and order direct policeor military intervention to stop the mob break in and riot at the Capitol on Jan 6

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  12. Michael Kesti Avatar
    Michael Kesti

    Paul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 11:21 AM
    “Who is psul Emery? Don’t know anybody with that name. It’s not me that’s for sure.”
    If psul Emery is not you then it would seem very appropriate and easy for you to ignore anything directed to this person. That you don’t (can’t?) ignore it indicates to me that you know exactly who is being referenced by this name. If this is correct then you have lied. Are you a liar?

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  13. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Michael
    It’s all pretty silly. All contributors have to do is use their real names and refer to others using their real names. I’m willing to pledge to do that. How about others on this blog including you? Yes or no.

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  14. Michael Kesti Avatar
    Michael Kesti

    Paul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 12:47 PM
    Yeah, but… Are you a liar?

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Michael
    I’m ready to move on and use real names for everybody starting today. If you want to prove a point then-yes I’m a liar. How’s that-you win.

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  16. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    I can’t believe the usual suspect is now spouting Russia hoax crap long after it’s been debunked.

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  17. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 12:47 PM
    It’s all pretty silly. All contributors have to do is use their real names and refer to others using their real names. I’m willing to pledge to do that. How about others on this blog including you? Yes or no.

    It’s all pretty silly.
    Yes…this obsession with names….and Trump….can’t forget him! Silly indeed!
    All contributors have to do is use their real names and refer to others using their real names.
    It’s not my blog but I still feel entitled to try and make rules here.
    I’m willing to pledge to do that.
    …and yes….I will Pledge to do things that I want to do. Is that really so much to ask?
    How about others on this blog including you?
    So psul you’re saying that the poster who goes by Michael Kesti is not really Michael Kesti? I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
    Yes or no. Yes or no…..YES OR NO?

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Looks like we have a Russian troll on this blog-contributors beware. One more chance fish…Are you a Russian Troll or bot? Yes or no

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1236pm – Actually, the answer to that is what all the J6 fuss is all about in Washington. Since you know the answer, why don’t you call the House committee and save them a lot of time.

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So George you don’t know if the President has the ability to call out the troops so to speak in an emergency situation? The facts are absolute. Trump did nothing for over three hours while the Capitol was plundered and lives threatened and he saw it on TV live.

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Paul Emery
    1) My real name is not Bill Tozer. i have unequivocally stated that fact on this website before. Thought you knew that.
    2) We have had for years a Russian troll/Prvada spokesperson on this blov. The Putin troll’s preferred name is Paul Emery. But, you already knew that.

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Bill you claim I am a Russian Troll? I am not a Russian Troll. Your turn fish.

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  23. Not Bill Tozer Avatar
    Not Bill Tozer

    Punchy
    “I am willing to pledge….”
    Therein lies the problem. We have witnessed and dug up your ‘pledges’ time and time again when memoryy fails you when you break your ‘pledges’.
    I don’t trust you Punhy to keep any of your pledges, vows, promises, or whatever term you use to cover your daily lies.
    This obcession with liars is a claasic case study of projection.
    Now, who do we vote for to kick off the island? The Russian Troll or the lying Russian troll?

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  24. Not Bill Tozer Avatar
    Not Bill Tozer

    “I am not a Russian troll”
    I don’t believe you, Punch Emery. Fool me once, twice, thrice, shame on you. Fool me four times, shame on you. What we have here is a trust issue. If there was one clear example in your past brain leakage writing prose here that would lend credence to you being a man of truthfulness, then I would be willing to you the benefit of the doubt. But no. I realize now that the devil made you lie as a second nature.

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  25. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Exactly what did I “lie” about Bill?

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  26. Not Bill Tozer (again) Avatar
    Not Bill Tozer (again)

    I have never claimed NOT be a Russian troll. Neither has Dr. Rebane, Scott O, Randy, Fish, Scenes, Michael K, or my sorely missed departed friends Walt, Russ Steele, or Todd. Neither has Ben Emery or Robert C Crosstops, Bun bun, jon, or Nevada County Right Wing Watchers, Jig Wiggles, or any poster here has yet to claim not to be a Russian troll. Nor has Gregory, but Gregory might be a Russian bot.
    Thus, I present to the reader for their consideration that we are all Russian trolls using Punchy’s pretzel logic. Who can argue with dat? Case closed.

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  27. Scott O Avatar

    “Exactly what did I “lie” about Bill?”
    Paul – you tell one whopper after another. I’ve called you out repeatedly.
    What a maroon!

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Give me a couple examples Scott

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  29. Not the Real Bill Tozer Avatar
    Not the Real Bill Tozer

    Forgotten so soon, Puchy Emery? Great defense mechanisms you have acquired. Prove you are not a liar or I cannot believe anything you say. Opps, too late.
    The above was for the benefit of the new reader.

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    For the benefit of the new reader fish can you explain why you do not use your real name?

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  31. The Estonian Fox Avatar
    The Estonian Fox

    psfish 28 July 2022 at 10:45 AM.
    Not a real Nobel Prize – this is what Paul Krugm.. won – Still can’t write his name, sorry. Not a REAL Nobel Prize.
    Officially called the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in MEMORY of Alfred Nobel. Technically not a Nobel Prize.

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  32. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    fish
    It you’d like me to respond address your request to Paul, Psul Emery or Emery.
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 25 March 2022 at 02:01 PM

    For the benefit of the new reader psul can you explain why you decided back on the 25th of March to start calling yourself Psul?

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: The Estonian Fox | 28 July 2022 at 03:48 PM
    Officially called the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in MEMORY of Alfred Nobel. Technically not a Nobel Prize.

    I know….how about a little a little artistic license.

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  34. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – “Give me a couple examples Scott”
    No Paul, you are waaaaay behind in giving examples and proof for your BS. Not playing your whack-a-mole game.
    After going around and around you’ll just end up changing the subject or claiming I don’t have a sense of humor or whatever.
    Remember this post the next time you show up here with some absurd claim about what we conservatives support or think.

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  35. The Estonian Fox Avatar
    The Estonian Fox

    Russian bot. Russian bot. Russian bot. Russian bot. Russian bot. Russian bot. Russian troll. Russian bot. Not Russian bot. Bot Russian nesting dolls. Russian bot. Russian bot.
    One of the guys on this blog is crazy. Let’s see-
    crazy
    crezy
    arezy
    amezy
    amery
    Having trouble getting that last substitute puzzle solved. Help me out here.

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  36. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee
  37. Not the Real Bill Tozer (again) Avatar
    Not the Real Bill Tozer (again)

    The Illustrious Estonian Fox.
    My deepest apologies for not including you among those here on RR that has never claimed NOT to be a Russian troll. I knew I left an important contributor out in the cold.
    Thanks in advance for your forgiveness.
    ———————
    Only 41 rewrites? A rose by any other name is still a rose, thorns and all.
    ‘Wikipedia’s ‘Recession’ Page Shows 41 Edits In One Week, Attempts At Changing Definition’
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/wikipedias-recession-page-shows-41-edits-in-one-week-attempts-at-changing-definition
    ——————-
    When you lose the lying buffoon Jake Tapper……
    ‘In Denial And Out Of Touch’: Jake Tapper Isn’t Buying Biden Admin Spin On Recession
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/in-denial-and-out-of-touch-jake-tapper-isnt-buying-biden-admin-spin-on-recession
    ———————————-
    You cannot believe anything the personal physician to three Presidents has to say, right Punchy?
    50+ Lawmakers Sign Onto Brutal Letter To Biden From Ex-Obama Doctor Demanding Biden Get Cognitive Test
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/50-lawmakers-sign-onto-brutal-letter-to-biden-from-ex-obama-doctor-demanding-biden-get-cognitive-test
    ——————————
    Oh come on Muriel, they are just hard working po folk trying to provide a better life for their families. What, a taste of your own medicine does not go down so good? And to think that the DC mayor refused the offer of thousands of National Guardsmen for Jan 6. If a mayor or a Governor refuses the National Guard’s help then (domestically) the Pentagon cannot send in the troops. Such decisions are left up to our civilian leaders, not our defense department or Executive Branch. Anyway….
    ‘Governor Abbott Blasts Mayor Bowser For Whining About Illegal Alien ‘Crisis’ Coming To D.C. From Texas’
    “Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott effectively told Washington, D.C., Democrat Mayor Muriel Bowser to pound sand Thursday afternoon after she complained that the border state was flooding her city with illegal”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/governor-abbott-blasts-mayor-bowser-for-whining-about-illegal-alien-crisis-coming-to-d-c-from-texas
    So, when it is somebody else’s backyard, it’s not a problem. When it is in her backyard, then it’s a ‘crisis’. Never released what a racist xenophobic creature the Mayor of DC is. Definitely a Lefty.
    Bizzy, bizzy, bizzy bitty.

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  38. Scott O Avatar

    The Dems are really getting open about their ideas concerning personal responsibility:
    “Maloney today demanded that rifle manufacturers “apologize to the victims” of crimes committed with their products. “When someone pulls the trigger, you refuse to accept responsibility,” she complained.”
    Yeah – imagine that?
    Completely bonkers.
    https://reason.com/2022/07/27/with-deception-and-misdirection-house-democrats-vainly-try-to-make-the-case-for-banning-assault-weapons/

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  39. Bill Tozer (not) Avatar
    Bill Tozer (not)

    IS JOE OKAY? Biden Launches into 90 Second Incoherent Rant, Asks if He’s ‘Making Sense to Anybody’
    https://www.thefirsttv.com/is-joe-okay-biden-launches-into-90-second-incoherent-rant-asks-if-hes-making-sense-to-anybody/?

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Wikipedia’s ‘Recession’ Page Shows 41 Edits In One Week, Attempts At Changing Definition
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/wikipedias-recession-page-shows-41-edits-in-one-week-attempts-at-changing-definition

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    DOJ May Have Obstructed Important Biden Corruption Investigations Out Of Pittsburgh And Delaware
    https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/28/doj-may-have-obstructed-important-biden-corruption-investigations-out-of-pittsburgh-and-delaware/
    ————————
    ‘Former AG Bill Barr To Merrick Garland: Appoint A Special Counsel Already’
    Will Merrick Garland show the same prudence as his predecessor and appoint a special counsel to investigate his boss’s family?
    https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/28/former-ag-bill-barr-to-merrick-garland-appoint-a-special-counsel-already/

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  42. Michael Kesti Avatar
    Michael Kesti

    Paul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 01:13 PM
    “I’m ready to move on and use real names for everybody starting today”
    It seems timely to mention that we are George Rebane’s guests here and, as ready as you may be to move on, he decides what is acceptable in matters such as the names his guests choose to use.
    “If you want to prove a point then-yes I’m a liar. How’s that-you win.”
    Thank you.

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    You must have a sense of humor Scott why else would you spend time on this blog. It’s certainly not for the intellectual stimulation or serious discussion of vital issues that’s for sure.

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    D.C. Mayor Complains Of ‘Tipping Point’ With 4,000 Illegal Immigrants. Cruz Fires: What The Hell Do You Call 3.5 Million At The Border
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/d-c-mayor-complains-of-tipping-point-with-4000-illegal-immigrants-cruz-fires-what-the-hell-do-you-call-3-5-million-at-the-border?
    So now she requests help from the National Guard…but refused the guard’s offer on J-6

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Desperate Networks: Recession Talk Just a ‘Buzzword,’ Economy Simply ‘Recalibrating!
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2022/07/28/desperate-networks-recession-talk-just-buzzword-economy-simply
    They all got the memo

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  46. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    This edition of The Sandbox led off with these words from Dr. Rebane:
    I suppose the one-sided discussion of Trump’s purported lies and lying will continue (Biden’s lies are off limits).  Have any of the discussants considered what possible rewarding endpoints there are to such an ongoing debate that is now easily several years old?

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Here’s a direct quote from Trump where he affirms his roll as the top law enforcement officer in the country. This is the event where he held a backwards upside bible while on a stage. One of his golden moments. Why did Trump choose to use his authority to do this but do nothing while the riot raged in the Capitol and elected legislators ran for their lives for three hours while he watched televison? Here’s his famous quote:
    “I AM YOUR PRESIDENT OF LAW AND ORDER I am mobilizing all available federal resources, civilian and military, to stop the rioting and looting, to end the destruction and arson.”
    “Esper and Milley have said they thought they were merely going to inspect troops who were ranged outside the White House in Lafayette Square, or look at damage to the church located there.
    But before the temporary curfew imposed in Washington DC began, military police and law enforcement suddenly used teargas, rubber bullets and flash-bangs to chase away demonstrators crowded into Lafayette Square, in front of the church.
    TV footage showed people running, falling and scrambling for safety as officers removed them by force. One woman was carried away by fellow protesters because she was injured and unable to walk. Military vehicles rolled out on Pennsylvania Avenue.
    The square having been cleared, reportedly at the behest of the attorney general, Bill Barr, Trump, Milley, Esper and an entourage walked the few yards from the White House to the church, where Trump posed with a Bible.
    FILE
    “I am your president of law and order,” Trump said at the time. “I am mobilizing all available federal resources, civilian and military, to stop the rioting and looting, to end the destruction and arson.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/11/top-us-military-general-mark-milley-issues-public-apology-trump-church-photo-op

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  48. Bill Tozer Avatar
  49. psul Avatar
    psul

    Posted by: psul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 05:45 PM
    You must have a sense of humor Scott why else would you spend time on this blog. It’s certainly not for the intellectual stimulation or serious discussion of vital issues that’s for sure.

    Absolutely have to have a sense of humor!
    Come for the mockery….stay for the pseudointellectual posing from a whiny guitar botherer.

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  50. Scott O Avatar

    6:22 – Ya beat me to it!
    “It’s certainly not for the intellectual stimulation or serious discussion of vital issues that’s for sure.”
    Yeah, the corruption of the ruling class, the destruction of our educational system, the ongoing crippling of the American energy supply – nothing serious here.
    Not like quoting from the latest poll that most all of us are already aware of.
    And of course the very, very latest Trump-hate!
    Paul – you are a maroon!

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