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286 responses to “Sandbox – 9feb21”
Posted by: Scott O | 12 February 2021 at 08:22 AM
And Paul claimed to be upset about the natl debt.
He hasn’t seen anything yet.
God help us.
Paul never cared about the national debt…..and I suggest that neither should you! Paul’s greatest concern is that the punchbowl stay filled while he is still upright!
an obscure American politician
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Trump’s lawyers have come out with guns blazing!
And they have just got started. Gotta love the video of LIB inciting riots.
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Did you care about the national debt fish when Trump ran up 8 trillion in only four years? Show me one tome on this blog when you did. I time and time again pointed out the hypocrisy of this and how contrary it was to the values of the Tea Party on this blog with no response or support from the RR’s.
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I wonder if Xho was lying when he said this……wonder,wonder,wonder?
Flashback: Biden promises appointees he will fire them ‘on the spot’ if they disrespect others. The clock is ticking, Joe!
L’affaire Ducklo
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/02/i-will-destroy-you-biden-aide-threatened-a-politico-reporter-pursuing-a-story-on-his-relationship
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That 9:42 was for fish
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Emery:- ” LOOK,, SQUIRREL!!!!”
Watching Emery? You LIBS getting slapped with the proverbial leather glove! Their own words in living color used against them.
I’m waiting for the Senate LIBs to slither out in embarrassment.
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Posted by: paul emery | 12 February 2021 at 09:42 AM
You mocked the Tea Party and their concerns incessantly Punch. Too late for a deathbed conversion now!
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Oh yes Emery,, even pictures of the LIBS, MANUFACTURING EVIDENCE!!! A great screen shot of the rewriting tweets!!
Original on one side, and the doctored one on the other AS HE’S DOING IT!!
You condone that Emery? “By any means necessary” still good with you?
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“Deathbed”? Do I need to rent a backhoe?
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So it begins- the dumping of Trump that will split the Republican Party. Quotes from Nikki Haley :
‘We shouldn’t have followed him’: Nikki Haley turns on Trump after MAGA riots
In an interview with Politico’s Tim Alberta, Haley said that she didn’t think Trump would be a significant figure in the Republican Party going forward, and she admitted it was a mistake for the GOP to help him in his efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
“He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him, and we shouldn’t have listened to him,” she said. “And we can’t let that ever happen again.”
“I mean, I’m deeply disturbed by what’s happened to him,” she said. “Never did I think he would spiral out like this… I don’t feel like I know who he is anymore… The person that I worked with is not the person that I have watched since the election.”
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2021/magazine-nikki-haleys-choice/
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Posted by: paul emery | 12 February 2021 at 09:54 AM
Hey look…..Punch saw another shiny object.
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PaulE 942am – For the record, I have posted countless times on the pending tragedy of our out of control national debt, and offered quantitative analyses of the required GDP growth (>5% perennially, an impossible goal) and related interest rates to make the dollar survivable. Both parties condone deficit spending for their desiderata when in power. We can only quibble whose desiderata is necessary/better for the country.
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Posted by: George Rebane | 12 February 2021 at 10:00 AM
It’s not an “issue” for Paul….it’s merely a. cudgel.
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Pay off your share Emery,, then you can rightfully complain.
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George
I don’t recall you specifically citing Trump in your posts George.
Time and time again I quoted promises from Trump that he would balance the budget and pay down the debt with no support or agreement from you as to the veracity of my statements which were supported by direct quotes. As a result your 9:42 post rings rings hollow.
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WOW Paul,, all hot for Trump’s impeachment, yet you refuse to watch his defence rip your LIBs a new asshole?
The LIBs “inserection” is on full display.
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Who cares Walt the Dems win big time with the Repubs affirming they are the party of Trump, the biggest loser since before 1900 of any President. Forget MAGA as Barry claims. The Republican Party is the Party of Trump and will be easy pickens for the Dems in the future especially when the multitude of legal problems coming his way as we speak and he starts taking out revenge on the Repubs that were not loyal to him.
In summary the impeachment was a win win for the Dems no matter how it goes.
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OK Emery,you said your happy with all of Biden’s EXOs.
That must include the billions in lost revenue from the pipelines, and drilling. No,, your not that concerned with money.. Just your usual excuse not to deal with what’s happening RIGHT NOW.
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LOL Emery,, How many seats got lost in the House?
Still chest thumping from a rigged election?
1000 dead votes in Nevada alone.. Run Emery RUN!!! States breaking their own voting laws… RUN EMERY RUN!!
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DEMS win you say? Easy pick’ns? LOL!! All those LOST JOBS by union DEM voters? Ya.. Keep dreaming Emery. Trump got those jobs. Your hero Biden ended them.
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Emery.. You support all the LIES told by LIBS to try and take Trump down Emery? Those LIES are being played in this “trial”.
Your watching those LIES,,, Right?
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The Icons of the Left Collapse
“What’s the theme that ties together Andrew Cuomo, the Lincoln Project, and California’s governing class? Since 2015 or so, a whole bunch of people who hated Donald Trump — and I am among those who believe the former president earned his animosity and scorn — chose to believe that anyone who stood in opposition to Trump had to be one of the good guys. A huge swath of the media world, elites across American society, and donors large and small, conflated political agreement in opposition to Trump with all other positive virtues. Outspoken opposition to Trump turned into an all-purpose badge of righteousness that many believed would outweigh or outshine any other issues or character flaws.
When a society adopts this kind of mentality, bad people recognize this. They pick up on the fact that certain views or opinions or labels can be used as moral get-out-of-jail-free cards. Why do you think so many self-identified feminist men keep turning out to be creeps when alone with a woman? Why do you think some billionaires describe themselves as socialist? Why do you think self-professed environmentalists keep taking private jets to climate-change conferences? Society has taught them that their viewpoint outweighs their actual behavior, actions, and in some cases, and how they treat other people.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-icons-of-the-left-collapse/
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To use a boxing analogy Walt you’re flailing away with punches that don’t land and are easily blocked thinking that the judges will reward you for the sure number or punches thrown. What a hoot. Flail away
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Ignore the facts Emery. Your Titanic is sinking.
So you DO support the lies LIBS have used against Trump.
You support the manufactured evidence.
Got it. Thanks.
I’m sure those having to pay higher prices for life saving drugs agree with you. Think they are thanking Biden?
Fuel is up 25% thanks to Biden. Yup, people are thanking Biden for that too.
We know the illegals are thanking Biden.
You can’t fight your way out of a wet paper bag Emery.
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Here Emery,, Some of your “nevertrumpers”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lincoln-project-employees-ask-release-ndas-controversy
Your right.. NDAs should be outlawed. Or was that just for Stormy? BTW,, when is she stripping at the Nevada Theater?
You were supposed to make that happen.. She still owes Trump Money.
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Remember when Punch claimed to care about balanced government?
Were you lying then Paul?
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No denial from Emery about the lying bastards who fabricated evidence against Trump? They have lied about Trump for 5 years and Emery took the bate and lives on that hate.
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Does context and intent matter anymore on the Left?
Interesting opinion piece killed by the NYT publisher A.G. Sulzberger, circulated among NYT columnists, and e-mailed by someone to the NY Post. I find nothing objectionable in the column. In fact, kudos to the columnist for his insight and stating the oblivious. The columnist Bret Stephens wrote a piece criticizing the rationale behind the forced ouster of Times reporter and long time science editor Donald G. McNeil Jr, who has worked for the NYT since 1976: Starts off great…ends great. Kill the opinion!
‘Read the column the New York Times didn’t want you to see’
“Every serious moral philosophy, every decent legal system and every ethical organization cares deeply about intention.
It is the difference between murder and manslaughter. It is an aggravating or extenuating factor in judicial settings. It is a cardinal consideration in pardons (or at least it was until Donald Trump got in on the act). It’s an elementary aspect of parenting, friendship, courtship and marriage.
A hallmark of injustice is indifference to intention. Most of what is cruel, intolerant, stupid and misjudged in life stems from that indifference. Read accounts about life in repressive societies — I’d recommend Vaclav Havel’s “Power of the Powerless” and Nien Cheng’s “Life and Death in Shanghai” — and what strikes you first is how deeply the regimes care about outward conformity, and how little for personal intention.“…..
… “This is not a column about the particulars of McNeil’s case. Nor is it an argument that the racial slur in question doesn’t have a uniquely ugly history and an extraordinary capacity to wound.
This is an argument about three words: “Regardless of intent.” Should intent be the only thing that counts in judgment? Obviously not. Can people do painful, harmful, stupid or objectionable things regardless of intent? Obviously.
Do any of us want to live in a world, or work in a field, where intent is categorically ruled out as a mitigating factor? I hope not.
That ought to go in journalism as much as, if not more than, in any other profession. What is it that journalists do, except try to perceive intent, examine motive, furnish context, explore nuance, explain varying shades of meaning, forgive fallibility, make allowances for irony and humor, slow the rush to judgment (and therefore outrage), and preserve vital intellectual distinctions?
Journalism as a humanistic enterprise — as opposed to hack work or propaganda — does these things in order to teach both its practitioners and consumers to be thoughtful. There is an elementary difference between citing a word for the purpose of knowledge and understanding and using the same word for the purpose of insult and harm. Lose this distinction, and you also lose the ability to understand the things you are supposed to be educated to oppose.“……
…. “So too is a journalism that attempts to proscribe entire fields of expression. “Racist language” is not just about a single infamous word. It’s a broad, changing, contestable category. There are many people — I include myself among them — who think that hardcore anti-Zionism is a form of anti-Semitism. That’s also official policy at the State Department and the British Labour Party. If anti-Semitism is a form of racism, and racist language is intolerable at The Times, might we someday forbid not only advocacy of anti-Zionist ideas, but even refuse to allow them to be discussed?
The idea is absurd. But that’s the terrain we now risk entering.
We are living in a period of competing moral certitudes, of people who are awfully sure they’re right and fully prepared to be awful about it. Hence the culture of cancellations, firings, public humiliations and increasingly unforgiving judgments. The role of good journalism should be to lead us out of this dark defile. Last week, we went deeper into it.“
https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/read-the-column-the-new-york-times-didnt-want-you-read/
Intent and context. Those words seem a bit foreign now in politics, the workplace, and at play. Reminds me of the reoccurring theme here by Dr. Rebane into what is a lie, lies of omissions, where are the nuances, that the Lefties see EVERYTHING in black and white and never ever in 50 shades of grey…..unless defending their own.
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Posted by: fish | 12 February 2021 at 09:45 AM
Paul, as a former member of the media and a champion of politicians “telling the truth” I was curious if Biden’s lie to terminate the employment of any staffer “who is disrespectful to a colleague” when T.J. Ducklo was merely suspended disturbed you in any way?
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More potential job losses an soaring fuel prices.
Emery must be independently wealthy.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/after-keystone-cancel-is-the-dakota-access-pipeline-next
He’s happy with Biden’s EXOs. You know,, what dictators do.
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Quotes
For the record: “I don’t think anything has occurred that would change your mind if your view is that you can’t impeach a former president.” —Sen. Roy Blunt
Impeachment theater: “The vice president and I don’t agree on too much in politics. But he’s a man who upholds his oath, his faith, his duty, and most of all upholds the Constitution. … [He’s] a Patriot.” —Rep. Joaquin Castro, one of more than a few Democrats who suddenly adore Mike Pence
Science? “The president wants schools to open safely and in accord with science and we are going to listen to science and medical expert” —Jen Psaki on why Biden is slow-walking his promise to reopen schools (“An administration that puts facts and science first would be conducting a full-court press to open schools.” —Mitch McConnell)
Cuomo’s death toll worse than thought: “This is the biggest bombshell we have had so far. We had a trickling in of the numbers. We knew the numbers were much bigger than the governor was admitting. Over 15,000 residents died from getting COVID in their nursing homes … and now the biggest bombshell coming from the New York Post that his secretary, Melissa DeRosa, admitted that they covered it all up. … I believe all of them should go to jail.” —Fox News’s Janice Dean, who lost both her parents-in-law to the pandemic last year
Nailing hypocrisy: “Restricting the right of Americans to travel freely throughout our country while allowing illegal aliens to pour across the southern border unmolested would be a ridiculous but very damaging farce. It would not be based in science. It would purely be a political attack against the people of Florida.” —Florida Governor Ron DeSantis
Nailing hypocrisy II: “The day after Donald Trump issued a travel ban on China, Joe Biden said that this is no time for his xenophobia and that sort of thing. And then, a month later, he actually tweeted out that banning travel from anywhere did not work. So, to now read that they’re considering actual restrictions on Americans inside the country, I think, is unconstitutional, I think is going to be challenged in court successfully. But I think it also gives you some insight into who we’re dealing with here: hypocrites.” —Marco Rubio
Gun grabbers are coming: “First I will say that the president addressing gun violence in the country and putting in place additional safety measures is something that the president has a personal commitment to, and his history on this issue is evidence of that. He has obviously taken on the NRA twice and won and he is happy and eager to do that in the future.” —Jen Psaki
Things you can’t say: “Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors … even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?” —actress Gina Carano, who was just fired by Disney for posting such insolence
And last: “[‘Mandalorian’ star] Pedro Pascal obviously has faced no backlash or punishment for doing exactly what Gina Carano did, and doing it, in his case, with the use of blatant misinformation. Of course, Pascal can get away with it because he abides by left-wing doctrine. He even has pronouns in his Twitter bio — a kind of modern ‘lamb’s blood on the door,’ signaling to the Angel of Cancelation to pass over his household.” —Matt Walsh
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Paul,
I ask you now with new caravans in the thousands of illegal aliens coming from south and central America if you (and progressives like you) will forgo your Medicare and Social Security benefits so that these unfortunates can be adequately housed and fed without further stress on the American taxpayer?
Its the progressive thing to do!
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My favorite quote this week was in reference to golden (leg) haired Joey Fingers: “Bend a knee to the CCP”. Has a nice ring to it. Bonus: more quotes.
Summing it up: “Donald Trump is being impeached [again] for the unpardonable offense — capital felony — of being Donald Trump.” —Larry Elder
Upright: “The House Democrats are proceeding as if they had a viable criminal incitement case. Where their evidence inevitably comes up short, instead of acknowledging the insufficiency, they are relying on unconstitutional claims — e.g., that the president is the commander-in-chief of the whole country, rather than just the armed forces; and that we should judge speech based on how the worst elements react to it, rather than on its content and the intent of the speaker. If the point of this exercise is to uphold the Constitution, that is a strange way to go about it.” —Andrew McCarthy
Impeachment theater: “[Eric Swalwell is] an interesting choice. Somebody who’s part of a Chinese espionage ring effectively, so it’s a provocative choice. I will say that.” —Senator Josh Hawley on Swalwell serving as a House impeachment manager
Conspiracy theorist: “If Senate Republicans fail to convict Donald Trump, it won’t be because the facts were with him or his lawyers mounted a competent defense. It will be because the jury includes his co-conspirators.” —Hillary Clinton
Cat out of the bag: “The Republicans who stand with Donald Trump are is enablers, and they must be stopped.” —Elizabeth Warren
Fearmongering: “Armed insurrectionists [with] guns, weapons, zip ties, brass knuckles — they were coming for us. … [Donald Trump] incited an armed angry mob to riot … incited and armed insurrection against the United States government. … [It was] an armed angry and dangerous crowd. … [This was] armed violence against the government of the United States of America. And but for the grace of God, they would have gotten us. All of us.” —Democrat impeachment manager David Cicilline (D-RI) (The only person killed in the Capitol was an unarmed woman.)
Communist infiltration: “[The FBI] has warned about China’s Communist Party using Confucius Institutes to infiltrate American schools. But now Biden [has] quietly withdrawn [a] rule proposed by [the] Trump admin to require schools & universities to disclose their partnerships with these agents of Chinese govt influence.” —Marco Rubio
Income redistribution: “The Biden admin NEEDS to be pushed. They have said they’re comfortable with $10K in [student loan] forgiveness but we NEED at least $50K minimum. … We cannot take no for an answer. This will all come down to public pressure.” —Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
And last: “So, it’s ok for Dem Jamie Raskin to try to ‘overturn’ Trump electors but it’s incitement to violence when Trump urged Congress to ‘overturn’ Biden electors? Isn’t that called hypocrisy?” —Rand Paul
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Paul…..? Civic duty or lefty poseur?
Paul…..?!?!? Anything….? Paul????
/…this thing…tap, tap, tap… on?
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Walt. Finally some good news. From the Wa Compost: R’s came with 40,000 of controling the Senate, picked up congressional seats, and came within 90,000 votes of winning the WH. No mandate I can see. No wonder they are running scared shitless.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/09/republicans-came-within-90000-votes-controlling-all-washington/
If you can’t get pass the paywall, let me know.
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Bill
Two questions for you: who controlled the House and Senate when Trump became President and who controls the Senate and House currently.
Anxiously awaiting your response to my questions.
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Posted by: paul emery | 12 February 2021 at 02:03 PM
Anxiously awaiting your response to my questions.
Yeah…..me too! Biden lying…..Medicare…oh yeah….answer some of Walt’s too while you’re at it!
You’re retired now…..plenty of time to do proper research, not just wait for others to do for you like when you were a proper hippy!
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Fish,
I don’t think Paul was ever a hippy. Paul is not the type to spit on returning vets and calling them “baby killers” like his comtemporaries and buddies he admires so. But, he sure bristles at being called baby killer for his total support for Biden’s and the entire left’s support of day of birth abortions. Odd. Maybe projection?
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That’s not my understanding Bill…..anyway I’ve got another Biden special I want him to address.
Yeah……what’s up with that Punch?
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Bill
Did you understand my questions re: 2:03? Is it too difficult for you to respond to?
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PaulE 1011am – Don’t have 942am post, and you confirmed that you don’t want to do anything here other than exercise your TDS. So I guess our conversation is over.
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George
What does “Don’t have 942am post” refer to? It doesn’t seem to fit the rest of your sentence. I didn’t address it to you. I added this a couple of minutes later
“Don’t have 942am post”
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Posted by: paul emery | 12 February 2021 at 03:50 PM
Too lazy to scroll back and see that the only post at 9:42 am was your post Punch!
#sadhippy
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You even referred to it in a later post…..
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I found it fish. Just don’t understand the context of Georges sentence.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 12 February 2021 at 04:16 PM
So ….about those illegals that your president is beckoning! Are you ready to make the tough choices necessary to feed and house them?
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Trumps call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy shows he had no intention to stop the riot while Senators and House Members were running for their lives.
Washington (CNN)
In an expletive-laced phone call with Washington (CNN)In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did.
“Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are,” Trump said, according to lawmakers who were briefed on the call afterward by McCarthy.
McCarthy insisted that the rioters were Trump’s supporters and begged Trump to call them off.
Trump’s comment set off what Republican lawmakers familiar with the call described as a shouting match between the two men. A furious McCarthy told the President the rioters were breaking into his office through the windows, and asked Trump, “Who the f–k do you think you are talking to?” according to a Republican lawmaker familiar with the call.
The newly revealed details of the call, described to CNN by multiple Republicans briefed on it, provide critical insight into the President’s state of mind as rioters were overrunning the Capitol. The existence of the call and some of its details have been previously reported and discussed publicly by McCarthy.
The Republican members of Congress said the exchange showed Trump had no intention of calling off the rioters even as lawmakers were pleading with him to intervene. Several said it amounted to a dereliction of his presidential duty.
“He is not a blameless observer, he was rooting for them,” a Republican member of Congress said. “On January 13, Kevin McCarthy said on the floor of the House that the President bears responsibility and he does.”
Speaking to the President from inside the besieged Capitol, McCarthy pressed Trump to call off his supporters and engaged in a heated disagreement about who comprised the crowd. Trump’s comment about the would-be insurrectionists caring more about the election results than McCarthy did was first mentioned by Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler, a Republican from Washington state, in a town hall earlier this week, and was confirmed to CNN by Herrera Beutler and other Republicans briefed on the conversation.
“You have to look at what he did during the insurrection to confirm where his mind was at,” Herrera Beutler told CNN. “That line right there demonstrates to me that either he didn’t care, which is impeachable, because you cannot allow an attack on your soil, or he wanted it to happen and was OK with it, which makes me so angry.”
“We should never stand for that, for any reason, under any party flag,” she added, voicing her extreme frustration: “I’m trying really hard not to say the F-word.”
“I think it speaks to the former President’s mindset,” said Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, an Ohio Republican who voted to impeach Trump last month. “He was not sorry to see his unyieldingly loyal vice president or the Congress under attack by the mob he inspired. In fact, it seems he was happy about it or at the least enjoyed the scenes that were horrifying to most Americans across the country.”
As senators prepare to determine Trump’s fate, multiple Republicans thought the details of the call were important to the proceedings because they believe it paints a damning portrait of Trump’s lack of action during the attack. At least one of the sources who spoke to CNN took detailed notes of McCarthy’s recounting of the call.
Trump and McCarthy did not respond to requests for comment.
It took Trump several hours after the attack began to eventually encourage his supporters to “go home in peace” — a tweet that came at the urging of his top aides.
The House Republican leader had been forthcoming with his conference about details of his conversations with Trump on and after January 6.
Trump himself has not taken any responsibility in public.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html?utm_term=1613173924282fa8a4362a526&utm_source=cnn_Breaking+News&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1613173924283&bt_ee=mxXtJU3LhG2pmGFpNi%2Fq1VSOjxGfXgSgYlVzL6L56J%2Bohey6Y6%2FbqNpaM5KIhWIw&bt_ts=1613173924283
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More good news for Emery!!
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/12/joe-biden-dismantling-trumps-border-security-measures-25000-migrants-being-brought-u-s/
Going to pay Jose 15 bucks an hour to mow your lawn(Union is a 4 hour minimum.) Juanita gets 30 an hour to clean your yurt?
“President Joe Biden continues rapidly dismantling former President Donald Trump’s effort to secure the U.S. border with Mexico, announcing on Friday he will reverse Trump’s Remain in Mexico policy for migrants seeking refugee status and will admit at least 25,000 people into the country.”
They will get that free health care you want so bad,,, before you do.
Add a few zeros to that number by June.
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Fredos brother is ducking the press on his murderous nursing home policies –
https://www.foxnews.com/media/gov-cuomo-avoids-reporters-during-wh-visit-as-ny-nursing-home-scandal-grows
😉
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Now that Chanslor Biden is all chummy with China,
Is the BLM mob going to demand action?
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/02/12/china-airs-blackface-show-again-for-lunar-new-year/
Lebron James sure won’t be happy with this. Will Nike stop getting their shoes made there?
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