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[So now the C19 vaccines are arriving in backwoods counties like ours.  Does anyone know of a list or policy that prioritizes who should get the vaccine and when (and where)?  The news about its distribution stops with vague references to healthcare workers and old folks in care facilities being somewhere near the top of the list.  gjr]

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183 responses to “Sandbox – 18dec20”

  1. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Walt
    Despite the taxation Denmark is cited as 4th in the Freedom Index George cites. George, Walt, can you explain than?

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: paul emery | 19 December 2020 at 12:27 PM
    You know what to do……
    Denmark would be lucky have the Punchmaster as its newest citizen.

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  3. D Avatar

    Paul, it is because the Danes are no whiners.

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  4. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: D | 19 December 2020 at 12:47 PM
    You should go with Punch…..

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  5. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Yeah D. Trump did a great job on our deficits-added 7 Trillion as I recall, not including the latest stimulus which will be on his account.
    Left the Dems with a shattered economy and infrastructure and weakened national defense.

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Must have gotten the talking points for lefties @ 131
    Left the Dems with a shattered economy and infrastructure and weakened national defense.
    Its the lockdowns that are shattering business and what infrastructure do you speak of? Weakened defense? WTF are to babbling about. DOD has recovered from team 0’s strangling and PC focus and is again focused on chi coms and rooskies. LOL
    😉

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  7. NCRWW Avatar
    NCRWW

    Hey Donnie,
    I thought you were going to sick your little mutt on me this week? lol. woof woof. What happened? You are such a gigantic tool Don. Are you still sporting polyester 3 piece suits these days? Those were classic, along with those macho mutton chops. Do you want to summarize all your indiscretions and legal issues or should I do it for you? Your choice. Besides that, Joe Biden is the President in a month and he and his AG (and the NY AG) will clean out the Trump trash. People like you Don.
    Loser.

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  8. D Avatar

    “(Reuters) – Speaking at a private dinner for tech security executives at the St. Regis Hotel in San Francisco in late February, America’s top cyber defense chief boasted how well his organizations protect the country from spies.”
    Spoken like a Trump chief.
    https://reut.rs/2Kki35f

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  9. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Don
    What are the details of Trumps infrastructure bill? When was it presented to congress?
    The recent Russian cyber attack is a grave threat to our security and well being .

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  10. George Rebane Avatar

    As I’ve pointed out before, the Danes have an extremely high rate of emigration of people who create wealth and jobs. What keeps Danes satisfied is that they are the largest oil producer in the EU and don’t have to spend money to defend themselves. And their healthcare costs are rising faster than their GDP. BTW, the Danes will stop all further oil development in 2030, which event will have an interesting impact on their economy. And check this out –
    https://www.oecd.org/health/healthcarecostsunsustainableinadvancedeconomieswithoutreform.htm

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh my.
    Our local News Redirection must have been asleep at the wheel for the past 4 years.
    Punchy says.
    “Left the Dems with a shattered economy and infrastructure and weakened national defense“
    Weaken national defense?? Trump inherited a weaken national defense. Remember Obama firing 100 generals (just like Stalin and Hiller), our Navy’s number of battle vessels sorely under what is needed for defense and hot spots breaking out across the globe, the Army in desperately in need of upgrading, the Air Force laying off pilots for lack of funding, aircraft, and downsizing, plus a wide open border to let terrorists come waltzing across on foot, along with some child predators, cartel members, and other real bad hombres.
    Our national defense was decimated by the previous administration. And now member states of NATO have agreed to put money they pledged to as a condition of joining NATO…into their own self defense.
    Even Japan hopped on board to pay for their own (upgraded) Defense. When asked why Japan never paid a dime before, the Japanese Premier said, “Because nobody ever asked us to.”
    Our Allies are no longer counting of the US to pay for their own security so they can play with socialism, SJW style. A better defended NATO by member nations makes us all safer, with the exception of Turkey, I suppose.
    Opps. Turkey has a huge army. Ok, with the exception of Germany. Germany, the largest economic powerhouse and de facto head of the EU, was told to pay 1.4% of their GDP to NATO, which they agreed to be 2% when they joined NATO way back when. The Krauts told Trump to fuck off and die, not only will they refuse to keep paying 1.4%, they will pay 1% next year. Go pound sand, Trump.
    After Angie signed a natural gas agreement with Putin that Germany would buy much needed gas from Russia (Germany’s wind and solar program is a bust), she wants Putin to have his hand on the shut off valve if Putin ever decides to turn off the heat during a bitter Germany winter, lol. To make matters worse, a NATO report revealed that Germany’s Army has only 7% of its forces equipped and ready (clothes and winter gear) for a winter battle for 7 days. Only a handful out of the entire German military are equipped for a 30 day winter battle. All their big transport planes were grounded due to lack of parts, needed repairs and just worthless as teets on an old hippy chick with unbraided armpit hair. Worthless as a weirdo with a man bun.
    As I write this, Russian forces are gathering on the Eastern Front of Germany and Europe. Good thing our military has been rebuilt under Trump, bad thing that Germany is making us less safe. They liked Obama much better.
    ———————-
    I could be mistaken, but didn’t I post a link about a year ago that showed Denmark’s health care system worked so well that 50% of those who went to the hospital and WERE admitted for surgeries and other ER stuff chose……drumroll please….chose to pay for a private hospital instead of a hospital part of the national health care system…which is free. Yes, I believe that link was from the Danish government stats.
    The Danes know something Punchy and Steve don’t know, I reckon. You get what you pay for. 🙂

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  12. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Well George that’s one of the 16 countries ahead of us in the FRreedom Index that you cite.
    all the others have national health care so what in your mind does that indicate.
    Also George still waiting for one example of a free market health care system that you respect and would like to see be an influence on our system. I’ce been asking for years and still none. I guess that means they don’t exist so you seem to have no examples for comparison.

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: NCRWW | 19 December 2020 at 01:48 PM
    Hi jetsi……

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  14. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Never saw anything unusual on my cameras tollio so it looks like you failed to pay us a visit! LOL
    Polyester double knit, mutton chops, you must be projecting never had those, i am more into cashmere wool blends.
    😉

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  15. D Avatar

    Trump is reportedly considering appointing Sidney Powell as special counsel, according to The New York Times, Wall Street Journal and CNN
    Based on a scoop from The New York Times
    Bwahahaha

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  16. Walt Avatar

    So when you packing up Emery? You and D- can be best buds over there. Go where it already is. I’m sure there is a 4.7 watt radio station there… (under strict GOV. supervision)

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  17. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 253pm – Here’s one more example why nothing gets resolved when attempting a dialogue with you. For years you have completely ignored my answer which I again repeated at Scattershots 921am, repeated here –
    PaulE 919pm – For you “nothing has changed” because you haven’t been paying attention to world news and the RR commentaries that have reported on the changing landscape of nationalized healthcare across the world – the lamestream does a terrible thing to healthy minds.
    And there is no requirement for ANYTHING to already exist that has the desiderata of what one is trying to achieve – all new developments, inventions, revolutions, … have been dreamt of, pondered, and launched without the need for precedence (as was America). My life has been blessed with the ability and opportunity to walk where none have yet trod. Your usual logic remains fallible.

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  18. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    So George you agree that this has never been tried before so there’s no way to evaluate it’s effectiveness in providing reasonable health care for the general population. It’s just an idea without any verifiable substance of real life examples to support it. In he meantime Trump failed to produce a healthcare plan despite endless promises that he would have it in “two weeks”. That’s typical from our soon to be homeless Liar in Chief.
    D
    Sidney Powell misrepresenting Trump!!! What a joke she is. Show me one case that has ruled in her favor during this election scuffle. Just imagine all the RR bucks that have been distributed to her and Rudy. Trump is pocketing the rest with virtually none heading to Georgia.

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 431pm – Yep, that’s the way civilization moves forward. Does your continued expression of this fear of the unknown finally fess up that you progressives are really sniveling sclerotics who cringe from the new (as your political history demonstrates), and it’s really the conservatives who have the courage and knowhow to launch new revolutionary initiatives in government, technology, and economics to improve the lot of mankind (as again history demonstrates)?

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  20. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    So George you must be terribly disappointed in Trump for failing to advance your version of health care .. In fact he advanced no health care plan at all letting Obamacare just become more and more accepted.

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  21. Walt Avatar

    If things are so bad Emery,, LEAVE. You have the “freedom” to do so. (Until Herr Gavin finds a way to stop you.)

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  22. Walt Avatar

    Look at the LIB bright side Emery, You pal Biden is looking to finish the job his bud “O” started. Turning the U.S. into a 3RD world shithole you and the Commiecrats invision.

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Paul, the elderly, like you, get medicare, parts A&B. The poor folks get free medicaid. Anyone/everyone else who wants The Affordable Care Act can sign up with Covered California (here). Its a lefty version of Medicaid Fot All. There are even plans to choose from to fit one’s budget. Pre-existing conditions covered as well, law of the land. And the best thing about Obamacare is it won’t cost the Treasury one thin dime and the average family of four will save $1,500/year.
    I just don’t see the need for more government run health insurance. Anybody can sign up for Covered Califofnia–especially the poor, unhealthy, sick, infirmed, the weak, and most importantly, the uninsured. Like, what is the hoopala about?
    Paul, everyone of the people you care about–be it the homeless at HH, a friend, a relative, a friend of a friend, a starving artist…all of them probably get free medical for being poor and down on their luck. At least the transitional and permanent homeless/addicts do. And the pony-tailed guitarist playing on the sidewk in front of his open instrument case with a couple bucks and a few quarters tossed in to prime the donation pump.
    I assume most of your friends are eligible for free medical with $1.30 RX scripts, a bargin at 60x the price. Whine, whine, whine.
    Or…or…or is this decade old recycled debate because its Open Enrollment Time and you are too cheap to kick down for Parts D thru G? D with G ain’t bad. Pay the premium (reasonable) up front for the year and don’t lose obe hour’s sleep over it. Harmony.

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  24. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    George
    AS far as healthcare goes what did Trump do that were “new revolutionary initiatives”?

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  25. Nemo Avatar
    Nemo

    He passed a law against shit eating dogs in Nevada county, thereby saving your life.

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  26. Walt Avatar

    Damn Emery,, News flash.. Nancy Pelosi happened.. Your Queen of the DEMNED.
    What the hell you want? Trump to act like a dictator and create cheap healthcare with a phone and a pen?
    You can’t get the old krone to get a sane bill to save the nation from the Chinese flu. And you think she would pass a Trumpcare Bill?
    It’s time you checked into Hospice. Now there is some needed care for Emery.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, let’s look at what Trump “Left the Dems with a shattered economy”… and more vomit spewing ignorance @ 1:31 pm.
    Bill sez: JOE BIDEN must be the luckiest man alive. He is going to step into office right as the V bottoms out and begins to take off and come roaring back. And Joe will get all the credit..until he destroys he really flattens the arrow.
    ————
    Sure, it’s only one outfit’s opinion out of thousands of opinions and what do they know?
    RESEARCH DEC 1, 2020
    2021 Global Economic Outlook: The Next Phase of the V
    Morgan Stanley projects strong global GDP growth of 6.4% for 2021—led first by emerging markets, followed by reopening economies in the U.S. and Europe—in a macro outlook that diverges from the consensus.
    “In their 2021 outlook, the economics team at Morgan Stanley Research says the V-shaped that the team forecast in their 2020 midyear outlook is now entering a new self-sustaining phase and is on track to deliver 6.4% GDP growth in the coming year.”
    https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/global-economic-outlook-2021?
    If true, Joe Biden is the luckiest man alive. Oh, D will go ape shit with glee. Republicans drove the economy into the ditch again. Trump should have used the bully pulpit to make everyone wear a mask, constitutional or not. But noooo. So the Dems governors had to shut down the economy again and really drive the stake through small businesses’ hearts ( the little guy)….and it’s all Trump’s fault because he was photographed not wearing a masks and he is responsible for what Gavin and Fredo’s brother does.
    Vaccine and a risky taking resilient economy coming Biden’s way. The Great White Father in Washington has arrived.

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  28. Walt Avatar

    What? Emery or the Douche haven’t posted THIS yet?
    “the Times report that the president discussed imposing martial law and deploying the military to rerun the election, a proposal that Flynn discussed on Newsmax.”
    You two (fake news) Trump humpers are getting slow!

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  29. D Avatar

    WalDoH!™
    Q: How do you milk sheep?
    A: Step 1 – Tell them the election was rigged.
    Step 2 – Ask for a donation.
    Easy Peasey

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: D | 20 December 2020 at 09:07 AM
    Q: How do you milk sheep?

    Great…..another one of your weird fetishes.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Sheep again? Dr. Rebane frowns on the topic of Democrats and their historical fetish for sheep. And NAMBA. Perhaps we should refer to milking goats. It’s safer to discuss, in more ways than one.

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  32. Walt Avatar

    See? Told ya’,, Screw Americans first.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/20/democrats-seek-permanently-add-foreign-workers-u-s-labor-market/
    And the Proggycrats say Repubs were in the pocket of big bizz.
    Trump looked out for the American worker and did his best to protect OUR jobs…
    Commiecrats on the other hand are out to give them to foreign invaders.(at their invite)

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  33. Walt Avatar

    Morn’n Peoples.. A new day in Hawaii! look who else woke up.
    https://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/cams/panorama.php?cam=KWcam

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  34. Walt Avatar

    Here LIBS,, this is your “tough on crime” kind of guy.
    https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2020/12/21/soros-funded-da-george-gascon-apologizes-to-murder-victims-family-for-telling-them-to-keep-their-mouth-shut/
    Not surprised a pro thug dude gets the job.
    And your side screams about guns?
    “Joshua Rodriguez was murdered in 2015.
    Gascón was elected with the help of millions of dollars from left-wing billionaire George Soros, who has funded the election of left-wing prosecutors across the country. Since taking office earlier this month, he has begun implementing radical policies that have included ending cash bail, preventing prosecutors from seeking the death penalty, and removing some sentencing enhancements for crimes such as using a gun or belonging to a gang.
    One case involved a suspect charged with a double murder, including that of L.A. Sherrif’s Deputy Gilbert Solano.
    After public criticism, he restored some enhancements, including for hate crimes, child abuse, or sex trafficking — though not for crime with guns, gangs, or prior convictions.)

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    My my. Here’s a no-brainer. Blame Trump, blame Moscow Mitch, blame some other dude who done did the dirty deed. What a super tramp Peloski is.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/pelosi-repeatedly-refuses-to-answer-cnn-about-why-she-rejected-bigger-stimulus-bill-before-election

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  36. L Avatar
    L

    Good link, Toes. Queen Nan knows she can roll Slojo for a couple more trillion as soon as he’s installed, meanwhile this trillion gets blamed on Trump.
    I’ll bet our resident deficit hawk (Paul) $100 that Slojo will have a bigger deficit in his first year in office than Trump did in his first three. Sound good, Paul?
    Take it or STFU about deficits and who causes them…

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  37. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    L
    Email me with your real name and email address so we can talk off line about your wager proposal.
    paulemerymusic@yahoo.com

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  38. Walt Avatar

    2.4 TRILLION Emery,, and all because of your Queen of the DAMNED.
    $82 billion for schools(??) They are CLOSED!!!
    At least there is no state and GOV. bailouts.
    The legislation notably excludes two of the thorniest issues, which have plagued negotiations for months: funding for state and local governments and a liability shield for businesses against coronavirus-related lawsuits.
    And for us? a meager 600 bucks. (Shut up and go way.)
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/900b-covid-relief-deal-approved-by-congress-after-months-of-stalled-negotiations

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  39. D Avatar

    What’s poor old MBS going to to when Trump is gone?
    The U.S. government is weighing a request to declare Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman immune from a federal lawsuit accusing him of targeting for assassination a former top intelligence officer who could disclose damaging secrets about the prince’s ascent to power, according to legal documents related to the case.
    The Saudi government has asked to shield the prince from liability in response to a complaint brought by Saad Aljabri, a former Saudi counterterrorism leader and longtime U.S. intelligence ally now living in exile in Canada.

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  40. D Avatar

    WalDoH!™ – Pelosi? You mean McConnell don’t you?
    Bloomberg) — The House released the text of a massive 5,593-page package of legislation that combines pandemic relief with a bill to fund government operations just hours before lawmakers were set to cast their votes.
    The roughly $900 billion aid package is attached to a $1.4 trillion measure to fund government operations through the end of the fiscal year. Also included are major tax, energy, national security policy measures.

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  41. D Avatar

    Porn for WalDoH!™ – The Coronavirus Bill includes $38 Billion for operations of Army, $47 Billion for Navy, $33 Billion for Air Force, $2.5 Billion for Space Force; ;plus Billions for bullets, ships, planes.
    Looks like Biden gets his bullets.

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    600 smackers, US ? Well, Shoot Howdy. I am old enough to remember when Queen Nana of Botox said in no uncertain terms that Trump’s tax cut would save the average Joe Blow $2,500/year as “crumbs”. Crumbs, I tell ya, crumbs!
    Daily Quotes, a cartoon, and a meme.
    Insight: “For man, when perfected, is the best of animals, but, when separated from law and justice, he is the worst of all; since armed injustice is the more dangerous, and he is equipped at birth with the arms of intelligence and with moral qualities which he may use for the worst ends.” —Aristotle (384-322 BC)
    Good question: “How did we go from starting a revolution over a tax on tea to collectively shrugging our shoulders when the government locks us in our homes, keeps us from seeing our families and arbitrarily closes our small businesses?” —Congresswoman-elect Lauren Boebert
    Observations: “Mr. Trump doesn’t want to admit he lost, and he can duck the inauguration if he likes. But his sore loser routine is beginning to grate even on millions who voted for him.” —The Wall Street Journal
    For the record: “Trump is very predictable in always wanting to put America first. But China prefers having American presidents who usually put communist China first.” —Gary Bauer
    Straight from the source: “I’d like to say very bluntly our mission is to redistribute wealth. A lot of people bristle at that phrase. That is, in fact, the phrase we need to use.” —NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio
    Non sequitur: “We will make sure that creating jobs, tackling the climate crisis, and centering equity are at the heart of our transportation and infrastructure vision.” —Secretary of Transportation nominee Pete Buttigieg
    Braying jenny: “I’m going to continue to fight for our most vulnerable communities who have been disproportionately impacted by the virus, for our health care workers, for our essential workers, for incarcerated men and women to be prioritized in the distribution of the vaccine.” —Ayanna Pressley (D-MA)
    Parroting eugenics: “Harald Schmidt, an expert in ethics and health policy at the University of Pennsylvania, said that it is reasonable to put essential workers ahead of older adults, given their risks, and that they are disproportionately minorities. ‘Older populations are whiter,’ Dr. Schmidt said. ‘Society is structured in a way that enables them to live longer. Instead of giving additional health benefits to those who already had more of them, we can start to level the playing field a bit.’” —The New York Times
    Alpha jackass I: “[Mike Pence] and his wife Karen will be [getting COVID vaccine shots] on television to show that the vaccine is safe. I guess the thinking is if it’s good enough for ‘America’s First Karen,’ it should be good enough for the rest of them too.” —Jimmy Kimmel
    Alpha jackass II: “Maybe save that dose for someone else. The only cure Mike Pence should get right now is a bottle of Clorox and a heat lamp.” —Jimmy Kimmel
    And last… “Remember that time brilliant negotiator Nancy Pelosi turned down a $1.8 trillion deal from Steve Mnuchin?” —Ben Shapiro regarding the $900 billion COVID relief bill
    ———————
    https://patriotpost.us/cartoons/29214

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  43. Walt Avatar

    Dip💩 calls national security “porn”?
    Step back and away from that crack pipe.

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  44. Walt Avatar

    Speaking of DIP💩,,, Yes, Herr Gavin (your fearless leader)
    may get kicked to the curb.
    Hear the news? SO many people are leaving the state a seat in the House may go South too. One less LIB to worry about.

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  45. Walt Avatar

    This should speed up the “kick the somebitch out” list signing.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/newsom-extend-stay-home-order
    “California Gov. Gavin Newsom said Monday that he would likely extend his state’s stay-at-home order.
    “Based upon all the data,” Newsom, a Democrat, said at a news conference. “It’s very likely that we’re going to extend the stay at home order.” ”
    Funny,, the Thanksgiving doom and gloom prediction was an epic BS!

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  46. Larry Wirth Avatar
    Larry Wirth

    Paul @ 1:25- Sounds like we have a bet but won’t know the outcome until the bill for 2021 comes in. Briefly, the bet is that the nat’l debt will increase more between 20 Jan 2021 and 20 Jan 2022 than it did between 20 Jan 2017 and 20 Jan 20 with the year in between not in consideration. You already know my name, L is an abbreviation and my e-mail will remain private. George knows where I am and how to contact me.
    This should get you rooting for a pair of Republican Senate victories in Georgia, much as I hate to give you a handicap.

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  47. L Avatar
    L

    A couple of trillion for more wuflu graft, a tril for GND and another to get rid of that awful debt held by America’s fortunate college grads- c’mon man, you could be a loser before June.

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