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George Rebane

To describe what is going on with this election as hanky-panky is to diminish what appears as the first verifiable assault on the seminal institution that we use to maintain our democratic republic – the right and practice of franchised citizens to regularly impact the governance of their country.

Evidence is pouring in from all quarters about voter fraud, evidence that has been filed by poll workers, poll watchers, and witnesses who have provided sworn affidavits and statements – punishable as perjury if falsified – of a wide spectrum of illegal and criminal activities taking place at polling places and vote counting centers.  Enough of this has been happening to cause the DoJ to order all US attorneys across the land to begin investigating these allegations.

Last night on FN Tucker Carlson went through a litany of some of the evidence that the US attorneys will be looking at (here).  (Odd that FN has pulled this commentary from its site.)  You don’t have to be a fan of Carlson to note the factual content of his commentary, confirm it yourself, and compare it with what you’ve seen on the lamestream.  An important part of the data that is now a matter of record is the history of grossly inaccurate polling results with which the country has been blanketed in the weeks leading up to the election.

It turns out that the polls across the board were grossly wrong in favor of Joe Biden.  The more important impact of such erroneous polling was how they influenced the vote.  University of Michigan (here) and McGill University (here) have done studies of this which delineate how polls favoring this or lambasting that affect voter attitudes.  In America our polls were off, sometimes hundreds of percents and of opposite polarity, for electoral contests ranging from the president to the states’ down-ticket candidates and issues.  And for some odd reason, they were overwhelmingly in error toward the Left.  This was similar to the late-discovered ballots and mail-ins arriving at vote counting centers that defied voting demographics, voting history, and elementary statistics in their one-sidedness (more here and here).  And we haven’t yet come to the vote changing software (here) that people have alleged was used (and exposed unintentionally on CNN (here) where Trump’s vote count goes down the precise amount that Biden’s went up before the cutaway from the scene).

All the Dems and lamestream outlets are ostracizing the closer examination of this election's fraud, claiming that, no matter if true, none of what has been reported is enough to change the election's outcome.  That in itself may well be false because the actual validations and recounts have not been completed.  But the logic of the admonition itself is grossly faulty, for it assumes that all the fraud discovered to date is all that there is.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  (For the technically inclined, consider the individual allegations as a sequence of events in a minimally known process.  Then compute the probability that the process ended with its most recent event.  To help you do this Download TN2011-1_DiscreteEventR-Gprobs )

The greater impact of this on our institutions and ultimately on Americans’ trust in their country’s electoral processes is summarized by Victor Davis Hanson (here).  The bottom line is that we are done as a liberal democracy once the people no longer believe in elections or that their legal votes matter.

[11nov20 update] There is now a chorus of commentators on various media outlets (yes, even some liberal ones) who correctly opine about completing the investigations of the numerous reported election irregularities and alleged voter fraud around the country.  What our Left predictably pooh-poohs as rightwing sour grapes, and tells to “suck it up” and get on with it will not work in the country’s longer-term polity.  We have lost faith in the election process as it now stands.  There are at least half of us in America who want the reported incidents of malfeasance resolved, one way or the other, before trust is restored in our elections.  A democratic republic cannot continue to function under liberal governance once its elections are seen by a major fraction of its citizenry as corrupt and corruptible.  The natural progression of such a state of affairs is to a strong-arm autocracy.

The truth of the matter, not considered by today’s light thinkers, is that the Left will be equally put out again when they lose another major election.  I say ‘again’ because they were maximally put out for years after Hillary lost in 2016, and showed the country how they could disrupt, not only the duly elected administration, but also the rest of the federal government.  These progressives and their militant radicals not only rejected the legitimacy of the election, they also rejected the findings of the many subsequently launched investigations that failed to find their claimed faults – and they hold these beliefs to this day.  For them, the Republicans remain guilty as alleged.

So yes, we have to let Team Trump and the other involved federal and state level investigative agencies complete the process to either sanitize the recent election, or declare that it was not soiled in the first place.  At that time we’ll all have to suck it up, bid good-bye to Donald Trump, and accept Joe Biden as our new fearless leader (while continuing to keep a gimlet eye on the sumbich until his influence peddling family affairs are resolved AND he renounces the emerging communist wing of the Democratic Party).

[15nov20 update]  Now we have a fairly complete recounting of the provenance of Hammer/Scorecard and how it came to be applied to the current election.  The testimony is "according to whistleblower Dennis Montgomery, who was granted immunity by the DoJ and the FBI for exposing illegal US domestic surveillance."  (H/T to reader and more here)

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188 responses to “Voter Fraud 2.0 … until the fat lady sings (updated 15nov20)”

  1. Walt Avatar

    Where is Emery’s PROOF of no voter fraud?
    There is, till YOU prove there isn’t.
    You want “trust”? right after it’s “verified”.

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Re: Gregory’s 9:37 pm
    “Punchy, that’s not Walt’s job. Not my job, not BT’s job”
    ————-
    “HARRINGTON: I would love if you guys would start doing that digging and start doing that verification.
    AMANPOUR: Now, we’re not going to do your work for you. I want to ask you a question —
    HARRINGTON: That’s a journalist’s job!
    AMANPOUR: —contrary to what —
    HARRINGTON: It’s a journalist’s job to find out if this is verified!”
    Play close attention to Amanpour’s statement: “We’re not going to do your work for you.”
    Whether she intended to or not, she managed to perfectly encapsulate the corrupt state of the Fourth Estate.” …….
    “According to Amanpour, for the mainstream media to spend time investigating a Democrat for wrongdoing amounts to a violation of journalistic standards. It is “doing Republicans’ work for them.” She just admitted that she believes a journalist’s job is to do the Democrats’ bidding.
    The fact that Amanpour felt comfortable saying this on the air — and that no journalist or news outlet has criticized her for doing so — shows just how deeply embedded this sentiment is among journalists.
    Once you understand that, you will understand everything about how the press covers the news these days.“
    https://issuesinsights.com/2020/10/26/christiane-amanpour-gives-the-game-away-on-media-blackout-of-biden-scandal/

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    11:30 pm continued
    Fair and balanced? Yup, Fox News got the memo as well. No talk about George Soros! A curse on both your houses.
    https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1306269786469552128

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  4. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Walt | 10 November 2020 at 10:10 PM
    “Where is Emery’s PROOF of no voter fraud?
    There is, till YOU prove there isn’t.”
    Seriously Walt, you are like a living breathing logical fallacy.

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  5. D Avatar

    Bill Tozer | 10 November 2020 at 11:30 PM
    What are journalists going to find that Inspector Rudy Clouseaou didn’t find?1

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  6. D Avatar

    Steve, Walt has been trying out his dog’s frisbee as a thinking cap for a while now.

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  7. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    There is plenty of evidence of fraud out there in these states. The question will be for a judge or the state legislatures is whether the evidence is credible and whether it is sufficient to show the election should not be certified because we can’t know who actually won.

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  8. D Avatar

    Trumpers will risk national security in order to mess with Biden,
    “The Impact of the 9/11 Commission on Current Presidential Transition Planning”
    https://presidentialtransition.org/blog/9-11-commission-on-transition-planning/

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “Trumpers will risk national security…..”
    Trumpsters WILL risk blah, blah, blah. That’s exactly what I heard when the Russian Hoax started. The Lefties are the masters of projection. Just cause you say it, then it must be true! Such confidence in ones judgement is astonishing. National security? Like being in the pocket of China and subject to blackmail from China? Oh my.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Barry @ 5:24. am
    “There is plenty of evidence of fraud out there in these states. The question will be for a judge or the state legislatures is whether the evidence is credible and whether it is sufficient to show the election should not be certified because we can’t know who actually won.”
    Well put. Your lawyerly mind nailed it. There is a big difference between evidence and proof,
    something Punchy and other popinjays confuse. They put the cart before the horse. First evidence, then proof or no proof.
    A surprisingly delightfully excellent and timely article of the topic. Gives me hope for the future of journalism. Never head of the writer, but a bloom in a barren desert.. Evidence and Proof:
    ‘America Won’t Trust Elections Until The Voter Fraud Is Investigated‘
    If all the evidence of voter fraud is not investigated and properly accounted for, half of America will fervently believe that the election is a fraud no matter who ultimately wins
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/08/america-wont-trust-elections-until-the-voter-fraud-is-investigated/

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Always a silver lining.
    ‘White Male Democrat Concedes To GOP Female Immigrant In California House Race‘
    “Michelle Steel, a GOP woman, won her place in the House of Representatives for California’s 48th District on Tuesday after her Democratic opponent, Rep. Harley Rouda, conceded.
    While the race was close with 95 percent of precincts reporting, Steel was steadily pulling ahead with 50.9 percent of the vote, while reports showed Rouda at 49.1 percent.
    Steel’s victory in the district flipped the seat, which Cook Political Report projected as “lean Democrat,” turning the congressional area encompassing part of Orange County back to red.
    Rouda, the district’s current representative, first came into leadership in 2018, replacing Republican Dana Rohrabacher, who was “the longest-serving House incumbent to lose re-election in 2018.”
    In 2019, the recently-resigned DCCC Chairwoman Cheri Bustos labeled Rouda a “frontline program member,” signaling that Rouda’s seat was necessary for the Democrats to keep control of the House.
    “Our Majority hinges on these Members from tough seats winning reelection in 2020, and with today’s announcement we’re sending a clear message that the DCCC will stand shoulder to shoulder with them in the fight ahead,” she said in a statement.
    Steel, the Republican chairwoman of the Orange County Board of Supervisors, adds to the historic number of Republican women who won seats in the House of Representatives this year.”
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/10/white-male-democrat-concedes-to-gop-female-immigrant-in-california-house-race/
    Why is that, Don? 🙂
    ——————-
    In related news….
    .Illinois Democrat Rep. Cheri Bustos stepped down as the House Democrats’ campaign chief Monday after disappointing losses for the majority caucus setting up Republicans to take back the majority in 2022.
    “I want you to know that I will not seek another term as the Chair of the DCCC,” Bustos wrote in a letter to colleagues Friday obtained by Politico. “Instead, I will focus my efforts legislatively to help President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris as we Build Back Better For the People.”
    Bustos, a freshman representative who just barely retained her seat in the House this year, is resigning her role as head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) after Republicans unexpectedly flipped eight seats for a net gain of five so far, chipping into House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s majority. Republicans are on track to possibly flip several more once all remaining votes are counted, a far different result from the sizable gains Bustos and other top Democrats were publicly expecting.
    According to Politico, Bustos wrote that she was “gutted at the losses we sustained,” and pledged “a transparent after-action-review to better understand why the national polling and modeling environment failed to materialize.”

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  12. Walt Avatar

    Bill. That should get Emery to show up at his nearest dive bar.
    Another LIB seat in Ca. goes RED. Now how the “F” did that happen in Calif.? Communism is supposed to be wonderful.

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt @ 8:27 am
    Yep.
    Kinda hoping that with uncontrolled TDS out there, the Neo-Leninists media complex would take their eyes off the ball. It was more expecting than even hoping ad it was happening before our eyes and they were blinded by TDS. Hate blinds a man, pride imprisons him. Same with women, if the antiquated noun ‘man’ offends one’s sensibilities.
    The more discrimination proposition to level the outcome failed to pass (affirmation action quotas on steroids), the Gig law was rejected, along with rent control and another I forget. How easily they forget. :).
    To be honest, there is a slew of articles I have not bothered to read yet. I blame the current back pain and recovery process….or maybe not. :). Anyway, right after election night, Ben Shapiro said “Wokism is the Biggest Loser.” The squeaky wheel did not get the grease…for once. And with flipping 2 statehouses just in time for redistricting, we have been saved from irrelevancy….i g, the dreaded dustbin of history. Left out in the wasteland hanging on the tree of woe.
    Yep, TDS worked in our favor, all in all. It really smoked them out, those naked creatures with their asses flapping in the wind. Exposed. AOC is very angry, says time to take the gloves off with Republicans. Can you say, “Triggered”? Good, I knew you could.
    ————————————-
    ‘Republican Incumbent Wins Alaska Senate Race, Clenching 50 Senate Seats For GOP’
    Republican incumbent Sen. Dan Sullivan won re-election for his Alaska U.S. Senate seat on Wednesday, beating out independent challenger Al Gross, who gained the support of Democrats
    —————————-
    ‘Pink News Erases Ric Grenell As First Openly Gay Person To Hold Cabinet-Level Position’
    Pink News, a left-wing LGBT website, is rewriting history. On Monday, the online newspaper memory-holed former Director of National Intelligence Ric Grenell’s role in the Trump administration as the first openly gay Cabinet-level member in the White House.
    “Joe Biden ‘almost certain’ to make Pete Buttigieg America’s first out gay cabinet official,” the outlet proudly headlined a piece promoting its golden-boy former presidential candidate…
    ———————
    Georgia orders recount…by hand. Oh my.

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  14. L Avatar
    L

    Georgia recount was automatic, based on closeness. Pa can be flipped by SCOTUS doing what John Roberts failed to do a couple of weeks ago- find the changed voting rules unconstitutional because they were imposed by a partisan, elected Dem Supreme Court when only the legislature is deemed to have such powers.
    That leaves Michigan where the most obvious fraud took place. The Dominion balloting software is highly vulnerable, particularly considering the relation to Nancy and DiFi. A managable situation, I think…

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  15. L Avatar
    L

    As far as Gov DeSantis, bravo! What the left thinkers here don’t get is that shooting looters has been the traditional solution because such mass lawlessness threatens to overwhelm law enforcement which is exactly why riots are the chosen cover.
    Not only do looters deserve it, it will only take a couple of dead/grievously wounded perps before they decide the game ain’t worth the candle. That’s what’s called deterrence Paul, Rx and Steve.

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  16. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Pete Buttigieg’s father, Joseph, was the founder of the Gramsci Society and was the translator (into English) of Gramsci’s “Prison Diaries”. Comrade Gramsci was in the communist inner circle with Trotsky and Lenin, and if “Mayor Pete” is ever nominated to a cabinet post, I’d expect him to be grilled on his relationship to his father’s ideals.
    It is very possible that had Gramsci not been sickly, he’d have met Trotsky’s fate.

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Pete Buttigieg’s father, Joseph, was the founder of the Gramsci Society and was the translator (into English) of Gramsci’s “Prison Diaries”. Comrade Gramsci was in the communist inner circle with Trotsky and Lenin, and if “Mayor Pete” is ever nominated to a cabinet post, I’d expect him to be grilled on his relationship to his father’s ideals.
    It is very possible that had Gramsci not been sickly, he’d have met Trotsky’s fate.

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  18. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    sorry bout the doubling…

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  19. D Avatar

    Gregory, doing what he can to equate Dems with Socialism/Communism

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  20. L Avatar
    L

    Want to know who really won? Let’s have Trafalgar, and any other polls who were closest to the actual result, go back using the same methodology and ask the voters who they votED for.
    Absolutely no one has a motive to lie under the circumstances nor to dodge the question. We’ll find out real damn fast if fraud was in play or not…

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Until the fat lady sings….
    ‘The Blue Trickle’
    “Democrats were so certain they were riding the tide of history in this election that they didn’t pause to take note of their agenda’s unpopularity”…..
    “Biden clearly owes his victory (which President Donald Trump, of course, is still contesting) in large part to Trump’s personal unpopularity. In races where the president wasn’t on the ballot, in contrast, the weakness of the Democratic Party stood exposed and it paid the price.
    “If the former vice president succeeded in making the presidential race a referendum on Trump, Republicans succeeded in making House races, in effect, a referendum on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the woke socialism that animates Democratic activists and draws so much attention. (Nancy Pelosi posed for a cover of Rolling Stone with members of the Squad, and Ocasio-Cortez is on the cover of the latest issue of Vanity Fair.)”……
    “It is always a danger for a political party to believe its own PR. That’s a risk especially hard for Democrats to avoid when practically every instrument of the culture celebrates left-wing causes and works to create the sense that their triumph is inexorable.
    This year, Democrats thought they were marching from strength to strength, when they were really on thin ice with an electorate that was prepared to reject Trump, but not to empower a party that has elevated socialists and outlandish ideas from defunding the police to the Green New Deal.”
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/the-blue-trickle/?

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Back to voter fraud.
    ‘Why Twitter Won’t Let People Share Sworn Court Documents Alleging Voter Fraud’
    Social media does not get to determine the veracity of a sworn affidavit any more than corporate media gets to determine who won an election
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/11/why-twitter-wont-let-people-share-sworn-court-documents-alleging-voter-fraud/
    ——————————-
    ‘Detroit Poll Challenger Witnessed Election Workers Counting Ballots For ‘Non-eligible’ Voters, Then Kicked Out For Noticing
    An affidavit from a Republican poll challenger in Detroit, Michigan confirms there may be voter fraud in the state.
    “Former Michigan Assistant Attorney General Zachary Larsen testified that at the convention center in downtown Detroit, election officials appeared to be processing a “majority” of mail-in ballots from ineligible voters that were not listed in the poll book of eligible voters, nor Larsen’s scanned list. Larsen confirmed in the affidavit that he had heard similar reports from other concerned poll challengers as well.”
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/09/detroit-poll-challenger-witnessed-election-workers-counting-ballots-for-non-eligible-voters/
    ——————————-
    ‘I Was In Philadelphia Watching Fraud Happen. Here’s How It Went Down’
    At issue was President Trump’s request for an order changing the way Pennsylvania absentee and mail-in ballots are being reviewed at the Philadelphia Convention Center.
    “Legacy media are lying when they claim that all of President Trump’s allegations of voter fraud are baseless. I know, because I argued a case on the president’s behalf in federal court in Philadelphia”
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/10/i-was-in-philadelphia-watching-fraud-happen-heres-how-it-went-down/
    And the evidence begins to accumulate. “Stop the counting! Call it a day! Goodnight everybody. Time to lock er up. Lights out.” Then, when the Republican eyes are gone, resume counting at 3 am. The magic hour. Gee, look what happened in the dead of night. Amazing. To be continued.

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  23. D Avatar

    YooHoo, fat lady, time to break into song,
    “Postal worker recants false fraud claims cited by Trump campaign, top Republicans”
    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/postal-worker-recants-claims-fraud-024203321.html

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  24. Scott O Avatar

    12:26 – Duh needs to read the article. There is no quote or actual recanting from this individual.
    In fact, the only statement attributed to him is that he did not recant.
    This is only only one of many instances of an election that is filled with problems that lead to Americans distrusting their govt’s ability to provide a clean election.
    It doesn’t matter who wins – we have to have open and fair elections.

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  25. q Avatar
    q

    “Postal worker recants false fraud claims cited by Trump campaign, top Republicans”
    https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1326323334800437248
    https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1326626901927079942

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  26. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “D” 1126am
    You can’t read?
    I stated a fact, that Pete Buttigieg’s dad was the translator of Gramsci’s “Prison Diaries” and has been silent on Gramsci. I’d like to hear where he differs from Gramsci’s teachings. And his father’s teachings, as his father was a college professor, along with being the presidend and founder of the International Gramsci Society.

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  27. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: D | 11 November 2020 at 11:26 AM
    Gregory, doing what he can to equate Dems with Socialism/Communism

    Yeah….he should leave that to the professionals….the “democrats” claiming that they are socialists/communists.

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  28. Bill Tozet Avatar
    Bill Tozet

    Good Nov 11 update, Dr. Rebane.

    Morning chuckle: short and sweet.
    COCAINE MITCH SLAYS
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/cocaine-mitch-slays.php

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  29. Walt Avatar

    Well Douchey,, they don’t call themselves the Democrat Socialist party for nothing.
    When the Left made “Democrat” a dirty word, the changed it to “Liberal”. When they made that equal to being septic tank filler, they then become the “Progressive”. Now that they have turned that into an eternal dumpster fire, the come out and say who they really are. Socialist.. Just a “kinder and gentler”
    Communist scum. The new scrotum massagers for Russia and China.
    You can bet shit will fly again in the Middle East. The terrorists just may have their pal Joe. back.
    Biden is no friend to Israel. Hamas is already starting to grow their balls back.

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  30. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Walt | 11 November 2020 at 08:24 AM
    Walt you do realize that as a territory Puerto Rico does not have any electoral votes and does not vote for President of the United States right? I am sure you do.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_voting_rights_in_Puerto_Rico#:~:text=Residents%20of%20Puerto%20Rico%20and,to%20electoral%20votes%20for%20president.&text=Like%20other%20territories%2C%20Puerto%20Rico,in%20the%20presidential%20primary%20process.

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  31. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Gregory | 11 November 2020 at 11:01 AM
    Yes, because there is something inherently suspicious about a professor of literature at the University of Notre Dame writing a book about Gramsci, everyone knows that if you study something you support all of its precepts, just ask William L. Shirer or Hannah Arendt, and everyone knows that children are always responsible for the perceived sins of their fathers.

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  32. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Nice one, Steven. J. Buttigieg was a promoter of postmodern critical theory, not a journalist like Shirer.
    I’ve listened to Buttigieg the elder speaking, he was obviously a believer of and in Gramsci, and was president of the society he founded until he died a year ago.

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  33. George Rebane Avatar

    According to our leftwing contingent, I wonder how far Barack Hussein Obama’s apple fell from his progenitors’ tree. No one has seen Obama’s or Buttigieg’s credo.

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  34. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Twenty five years ago I asked a member of Terry McAteer’s staff where McAteer’s “Acadamy Of Learning” differed from what was known as “Outcome Based Education”, and I’d love to hear Mayor Pete’s answer to where his personal philosophy differed from his father’s and Gramsci’s views.
    Asked that way, McAteer’s minion had to answer that there was no difference. It was “Outcome Based Education” but they’d learned not to use that term. Mayor Pete would be much more glib, no doubt.

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  35. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Operation Hammer and Scorecard.

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  36. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    So, that is what Gregory was talking about. Lets have some fun and play make-believe. No harm in running the numbers.
    ‘A Reelection Path Like No Other’
    Pennsylvania is the primary focus, but another route to victory would be far more fitting, and far more fun
    “232 [NC and Alaska] then, a flip of three states with razor-thin margins — Wisconsin (10), Arizona (11), and Georgia (16) — would put the president at 269 electoral votes … a splendiferous tie with the media’s “President-elect” Joe Biden.
    We say splendiferous because a 269-269 tie would go to President Trump. How? Our constitutional system says that in the event of an electoral tie, the House of Representatives picks the president and the Senate picks the veep.
    But Andrews, you knucklehead, the House is firmly in Democrat hands!
    And indeed it is. But the House doesn’t get to cast its decisive votes by individual member. Instead, it must cast them by state delegation — one vote per glorious state. So California’s 40-something Democrats will carry the exact same voting weight as Wyoming’s one Republican rep, and New York’s 20-something the same as Montana’s one. And given that the GOP controlled more state delegations going into last Tuesday’s election, and given that they didn’t lose a single House seat, it’s safe to say that the Republicans still have the numbers to return President Trump for a second term.
    All Rudy needs to do is make the fraud case in Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia. And all we need to do is stock up on beer, brats, burgers, and plywood paneling.
    Like we said, splendiferous.
    The bottom line? The Trump team may or may not be able to change this electoral outcome, but for the sake of future elections, EVERY instance of fraud in this election, particularly the Democrats’ massive bulk-mail-ballot fraud, must be exposed now. If not, those fraudulent methods WILL become their standard for stealing elections in 2022 and beyond.”
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/74811-a-reelection-path-like-no-other-2020-11-11

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  37. Walt Avatar

    That’s the idea Stevie, Make excuses. “Their votes don’t mean 💩” So who cares if fraud is involved.
    So we can put you down as for being in the “voter fraud is just fine” camp. “if it gets rid of Trump,, good to go”.
    “Free and fair” elections means to a LIB,, “free to rig”.

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Looks like we are headed for a showdown at the OK Corral.
    Remember many moons ago when all the Lefties were running with the story that Trump really really really did not want to be President…and the oft repeated story that the R’s will make him resign in 60 days because none of the Pubs would support him?
    I would say that for someone who doesn’t want to be President, The Donald is fighting like ole Mike Tyson, running around and ripping people’s faces off with his teeth, just like the animal he is. Unique fellow.
    Trump is probably trashing the WH furniture right now. One of a kind, fa sure.
    A quote by Peyton Manning after his last game (Superbowl) always stuck with me: Its not about winning, its about refusing to lose.

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  39. Walt Avatar

    LOL!! Proggy voters think they are OWED something?
    I don’t recall ANY repub group hitting up Trump for a “you OWE us”.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/blm-co-founder-to-biden-we-want-something-for-our-vote

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  40. Walt Avatar

    It sure would be riot to see,, a sea of pro Trump signs at Biden’s coronation. Well,, Biden will only be there for a week or two before the Proggys invoke the 25TH and send him to the old folks home with tall fences.

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  41. Walt Avatar

    Here is a poll for Emery,, swing on this one for a while.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/11/poll-less-than-half-of-america-believes-joe-biden-won-the-election/
    “Less than half of the American people believe Joe Biden (D) won the presidential election, according to a Tuesday survey from Just the News Daily and independent pollster Scott Rasmussen.”
    In other words,, most of America has called “BULLSHIT”.

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Little Stevie Frisch… had enough?

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  43. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Votes don’t actually need to be changed from Biden to Trump by legal action… they only need to keep enough states from certifying their elections to keep Biden or Trump from reaching 270 in the Electoral College. Then it goes to the House for President, the Senate for VP.
    And Wyoming gets the same 1 vote that California does in each chamber. Alaska and NY… equal.
    I think I got that right. Steve?

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    Gregory

    IF the mail in ballot results in the whole thing going to the House… wanna bet there will be a wave coast to coast of states deciding that a day of election poll with paper ballots and ID is the way to go?

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    rob’t X

    Speaking of FRAUD: If you donate to trump’s “Official Election Defense Fund” 60% goes to Trump’s Save America PAC, 40 % goes to the RNC – and NOTHING would go to his election defense fund…..UNLESS you donate $8,000 or more.
    Then the money goes to the “recount account” established to finance election challenges, including recounts and lawsuits over alleged improprieties, the fundraising disclosures show. this according to Reuter’s.
    “The Left will try to STEAL this election!” the promotions say..what they don’t say is that, true to form, “Trump will try and steal your money.”
    Question: What is the over/under on how much of the cash donated by people like you to the “Official Election Defense Fund” goes directly onto trump’s pocket?

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  46. Scott O Avatar

    rx 5:21 – “Speaking of FRAUD:…”
    Since you are aware of the details and have no evidence or proof of any disposal of the money contrary to those details it follows that there is no fraud.
    Question: how much kiddie porn does rob’t X watch a day?
    See how that works rob’y?

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  47. Walt Avatar

    AWwwww.. LOOK! Lil’ Bob is trying a new TROLL name.
    The money still goes to keeping us people free. Unlike you Proggys sending money to enslave everyone. Including you.
    Whining that,, “I’m on your side” ain’t going to work.
    Just ask the “freedom fighters” of Cuba. it only worked out GREAT for Castro and his close pals… Think about that you stupid Commie butt greaser.

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  48. Walt Avatar

    BTW Lil’ Bob,, I can’t wait for FL. to declare “open season” on rioters and looters. Miss that news? Legalized vigilantism.
    When the authorities can’t or won’t do their job,, well, Winchester, and Mr. Colt are ready to fix that problem.

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