280 responses to “Sandbox – 1sep20”

1. 

   scenes

   03 September 2020

   I’d wanna watch Paul explain why this is a bad thing because Trump.
   “Justice Dept. Plans to File Antitrust Charges Against Google in Coming Weeks”
   https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/03/us/politics/google-antitrust-justice-department.html
   I guess it’s like pushing on China, not starting any new wars, attempting to improve US trade imbalance. The KVMR news team is simply the propaganda arm of the neocons. The spice must flow.

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   Don Bessee

   03 September 2020

   Creepy grampa joe lied in church –
   https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/03/joe-biden-lies-in-church-brings-very-fine-people-hoax-to-kenosha/
   😉

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   Paul Emery

   03 September 2020

   Scenes
   Do you think it’s ok for Trump to break the law and encourage people to vote twice?

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   Paul Emery

   03 September 2020

   Down memory road:
   When McCain died, in August 2018, Trump told his senior staff, according to three sources with direct knowledge of this event, “We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,” and he became furious, according to witnesses, when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. “What the fuck are we doing that for? Guy was a fucking loser,” the president told aides. Trump was not invited to McCain’s funeral.
   This is the guy you support for President George. Doesn’t character have anything to do with the person we choose to be President? It sure did when Clinton ran against Bush.
   https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/trump-blew-up-when-he-saw-flags-at-half-staff-for-john-mccains-funeral-and-called-him-a-loser-report/

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   Scott O

   03 September 2020

   Paul’s posting memory aids for his own faltering grasp of the past. They help him keep the current reality of the Dem’s train wreck of racism and hatred and lies from coming to his limited attention.

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6. 

   Bill Tozer

   03 September 2020

   @ 2:46 pm
   re: breaking windows. The Federalist is pretty good today. So is the Intellectual Takeout, Quillete, NR, and more. Broken windows? If only they could be so lucky. The Mob could have a field day in Nevada City
   After A Century Serving Kenosha, Rode’s Camera Shop Is A Pile Of Ashes
   ““This is my— was my business,” Tom Gram caught himself. He stood beside his wife, Irene, gesturing behind them to a mountain of rubble occupying the charred, brick shell of what once was. Rode’s Camera Shop.
   The uptown Kenosha establishment, started as a family business in 1911 in the home of John Rode Sr. and since situated proudly on the corner of Roosevelt Road and 22nd Avenue, has been serving the community for the past 109 years. The store was owned by three generations of John Rodes before co-workers Tom Gram and Paul Willette bought the business to become co-owners in 2012“
   https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/03/after-a-century-serving-kenosha-rodes-camera-shop-is-a-pile-of-ashes/
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   @2:56 pm
   Beware the Neocons. Yep, Punch was pretty upset that Trump wanted us to pull out of Syria and leave the Kurds behind. Afterall, he donated $ to the Kurdish female fighters out of his own pocket….as well as 500 clams to the Mimes of Poop City.
   Beware the Neocons. It nothing else, Pat has been consistent from Day 1.
   https://buchanan.org/blog/where-will-all-these-war-games-lead-142105

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7. 

   scenes

   03 September 2020

   Paul Emery: “Scenes. Do you think it’s ok for Trump to break the law and encourage people to vote twice?”
   Paul. Why does every post of yours feel kind of like this?
   https://i.redd.it/tz9074cxyjyz.jpg

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   Paul Emery

   03 September 2020

   WScenes
   Do you support our President Trump breaking the law by asking people to commit voter fraud?

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9. 

   Paul Emery

   03 September 2020

   Scenes
   Once again: Do you think it’s ok for Trump to break the law and encourage people to vote twice?

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10. 

    fish

    03 September 2020

    Instapundit……re: continued whining from WaPo.
    ” This sounds like extortion, doesn’t it? “Vote for our team or there’ll be trouble.” And it’s a tacit admission that Trump supporters won’t get violent if he loses. That would poke a hole in the ol’ liberal media narrative, if they allowed themselves to stop for a minute and think about it.
    Could somebody please explain to me why I should vote for a political party that’s expected to explode into even more rioting, looting, public assaults, and other chaos if they lose? I will not be coerced, by either side. If you can’t earn my vote, you’re not going to get it under threat of violence.”

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11. 

    George Rebane

    03 September 2020

    You think any liberal here will comment, let alone criticize, sleazebag Pelosi in her accusations of the salon owner having “set her up” for going against CA’s C19 regulations? Nah.

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12. 

    fish

    03 September 2020

    More…..
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/wapo-claims-election-result-will-spark-violence-unless-its-biden-landslide

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13. 

    paul emery

    03 September 2020

    Did Pelosi break the law George like Trump did by encouraging people to vote twice in the NC election?

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14. 

    Don Bessee

    03 September 2020

    Did your clutching pearls break @ 557? LOL
    😉

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15. 

    Don Bessee

    03 September 2020

    WTF were they even thinking to do it in the first place, too many America haters in the mix for sure but its good that they are identifying themselves! –
    NPR issues mea culpa, says ‘In Defense of Looting’ interview ‘did not serve NPR’s audience’
    The interview was widely criticized
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/npr-mea-culpa-defense-looting-interview
    😉

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16. 

    Don Bessee

    03 September 2020

    If he is out of the basement its another creepy grampa joe foot in mouth day. Did anyone notice they are keeping whats her name in the basement too? –
    Biden makes awkward ‘they’ll shoot me’ quip during Kenosha appearance
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-awkward-theyll-shoot-me-quip-kenosha
    😉

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17. 

    fish

    03 September 2020

    Uh oh……smells like…..smells like Dolezal!
    

    ‘I am a culture leech’: African American history professor at George Washington University admits she’s been pretending to be black her entire career in online confession

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8695559/George-Washington-University-professor-says-lied-black.html

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18. 

    Don Bessee

    03 September 2020

    Oh shit, now botox nancy has to deal with the yuppies who want to get their hair done too! –
    A group of demonstrators on Thursday hung blow dyers and curlers on a tree outside House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) San Francisco residence after the top congressional Democrat was caught violating coronavirus lockdown restrictions in her home city to get her hair done without a mask.
    The demonstrators, who appeared to all be women, branded themselves as “angry salon customers” who want to get their hair done.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/03/watch-women-hang-blow-dryers-on-tree-outside-nancy-pelosis-home/
    😉

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19. 

    fish

    03 September 2020

    Posted by: Don Bessee | 03 September 2020 at 07:17 PM
    Yes…..it was so much easier when the Lumpenproletariat knew its place!

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20. 

    Bill Tozer

    03 September 2020

    COMING SOON TO OUR NATION’S CAPITAL: A COMPREHENSIVE PURGE
    “Looking on the bright side, it will be hard to find a Democratic Party politician prior to Barack Obama who passes muster. And Obama only qualifies if they ignore his anti-gay marriage position. Note that Francis Scott Key is on the list. I don’t know why, but I hope they have something better than the idiotic claim that the National Anthem is somehow pro-slavery.”
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/coming-soon-to-our-nations-capital-a-comprehensive-purge.php
    Woodrow Wilson yes. Alexander Graham Bell, no.

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21. 

    scenes

    03 September 2020

    “‘I am a culture leech’: African American history professor at George Washington University admits she’s been pretending to be black her entire career in online confession.”
    The fact that it makes any difference is the funny part.
    A quick summary of one of her learned tomes.
    “”This article argues that the terms of identity claimed by and ascribed to Africans and their descendants in the Americas during the era of the trans-Atlantic slave trade functioned less as claims of provenance than as complicated, shifting and highly contested languages of political logic. Focusing on the ‘Kromanti’ identity associated with all major acts of resistance and maroonage in the eighteenth-century British- and Dutch-colonized Caribbean, this article connects a strategy developed by the Asante state for coping with a particular moment of beheading of the body politic in 1717 to oath-taking strategies employed by maroons of diverse origins to reconstitute viable communities. Examining the ways in which political claims were made through a language of Obeah, or social health and healing, this article argues that ritual practices comprised the discursive field of political action for eighteenth-century Africans and their descendants in Jamaica and beyond”
    You know, there’s some serious dosh to be made tossing up some word salad. Doing useful things for a living ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.

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22. 

    Bill Tozer

    03 September 2020

    The cultural leech pulled a Rachel Dolezal because she knew there is no priviledge in being white, just as Colin and Barry choose to identify with their non-white half.
    ———————
    Daily quotes and maybe a meme.
    Upright: “I think the narrative that the police are in some epidemic of shooting unarmed black men is simply a false narrative and also the narrative that’s based on race. The fact is that it is very rare for an unarmed African American to be shot by a white police officer.” —Attorney General William Barr
    For the record I: “I’ve talked to every police chief in every city where there has been major violence and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for the violence. They are flying around the country. We know people who are flying around the country. We see some of the purchases they are making before the riots of weapons to use in those riots.” —William Barr
    For the record II: “Everyone knows there are different rules for Black Lives Matter. If a conservative movement with the cachet and corporate support of BLM staged an event featuring a single act of arson, the group would be shunned and its cause discredited. That this would never happen to BLM acts as a giant permission slip, and it’s not Trump writing it, but all the people now blaming him for the rioting.” —Rich Lowery
    For the record III: “The same media that excoriated Trump for condemning violence ‘on many sides’ in Charlottesville suddenly found it in their hearts to pretend that Biden’s radically unspecific rhetoric actually covered the evils of BLM and antifa.” —Ben Shapiro
    For the record IV: “Joe Biden and Kamala Harris didn’t mention the riots once during the DNC convention. Lives had been lost, cities and businesses ruined, but no mention. They didn’t care until it became a political liability for their campaign.” —Lisa Boothe
    For the record V: “Seconds after saying the judicial system should work its way, Biden calls for charging the officer who shot Jacob Blake. Which is it Joe? Wait for the judicial system or charge the officer? But the news is Biden calls for charging the officer. Biden made no similar call to charge the person in Portland who shot Aaron Danielson. He says that one should be investigated.” —Ari Fleischer
    Friendly fire: “So the speaker of the House is blaming the salon after she didn’t wear a mask indoors. Tonight, the salon owner is denying it was a setup. Regardless, this far into the pandemic, the House speaker should know what is safe and what isn’t. We should all know. It’s our responsibility. Instead of claiming a setup, [it] would have been just as easy for the speaker to say, ‘You know what? I messed up. I should have worn a mask indoors.’” —CNN’s Dom Lemon
    Alpha jackass: “[Trump] better have an army if he thinks he’s gonna walk down the street in New York. New Yorkers don’t want to have anything to do with him. He can’t have enough bodyguards to walk through New York City. People don’t want to have anything to do with him.” —Governor Andrew Cuomo. [Bill sez: Pssst, Governor Cuomo. Newsflash. Trump does have an army and I saw the photo of you walking your dog out in public without a face mask on.]
    And last… “We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did.” —Thomas Sowell
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10157671672870914/?
    PS: It is my understanding that salons could operate outdoors in CA but no hair dryers allowed. Looking at the color coded reopening map, as of Tuesday some salons could open indoors with restricted patrons and ABSOLUTELY no hair dryers allow. No inside, no outside, no way, nohow.
    Next time Speaker Pelosi should call Katie Hill is she wants her hair blown.

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23. 

    scenes

    03 September 2020

    Biden speaks.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQUXgb60aDI
    my favorite response: “This is how he talks to children as he tries to sniff their souls through their ears”
    favorite response #2: “I honestly can’t believe he didn’t burst into flames as soon as he entered the Church.”

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24. 

    Bill Tozer

    03 September 2020

    favorite response #17
    “No I’m not serious, I’m being serious”
    Oh okay.

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25. 

    Bill Tozer

    03 September 2020

    In fairness to Nancy, she thought the sign said saloon.
    ————
    @BuckSexton
    “Sure, thousands of radical Democrats will burn down buildings and loot stores because of a story they read on the internet- but they wouldn’t cheat in an all mail in ballot election against Trump! No of course not. That would be uncivilized.
    Anyone who believes this is an idiot“
    ——————
    @BuckSexton
    “There is a clear correlation in the media between those who completely fell for the Russia collusion hysteria and those who have been pushing maximum panic at every stage of the covid lockdown
    Worth asking why that is“
    ————————
    @BuckSexton
    ·“Libs preparing to go full anti-vaxx during a pandemic because orange man bad is the Democrat party defined in one sentence”
    —————-
    Larry Elder Tweets
    https://twitter.com/larryelder/status/1301638539524755456/photo/1

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26. 

    Scott O

    03 September 2020

    Emperor Xi is way worse than any previous dictator. Right now there is no reason to be more opposed to anything or any body than Xi and the Chinese govt. Unlike Stalin, Hitler or Mao – Xi can buy and sell his friends all over the world. The current stupidity in some Dem cities is just a side issue. Here is just one article. There are many, many others that tell the same tale.
    https://quillette.com/2020/08/31/the-crimes-of-the-red-emperor/
    Biden is not the person to stand up to Xi.
    BLM, ecology groups, most so-called human rights groups, so-called womens’ rights groups and almost all left wing groups are just bags of pompous wind and BS in the face of what Xi does every day. They are all cowards in the face of a very powerful and evil force. Another reason I have zero respect for them.

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    Scott O

    03 September 2020

    Aren’t Dem-run cities just the best?
    https://wjla.com/news/local/illegal-atv-dirt-bikers-roam-dc-streets
    “But Williams said when she confronted one of the bikers,
    “He spun around and said ‘What you gonna do call the police? They can’t do nothing to me.’”

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28. 

    Scott O

    03 September 2020

    Looks like the Portland antifa murderer just saved the tax payers a lot of money. Thankfully no L.E. were injured.

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29. 

    Bill Tozer

    03 September 2020

    Everything Magnified
    Why were the protests and riots of 2020 so explosive
    “The repudiation of everything in a free, reasonably prosperous democratic society echoes the web’s rhetoric of the rant but probably springs from deeper sources. Lacking community and religion, a significant percentage of the public has looked for personal meaning in utopian political aspirations that invariably collide with reality. The pose of universal grievance may well be based in a politics of cultural despair.
    The protests I have studied have had speed and agility but little depth. The same slogans appear around the world: “I can’t breathe,” “Silence is violence,” “Black Lives Matter.” Beyond the slogans, we hear the same calls for generalities like “racial equity” or “social justice.” Beyond that, there’s nothing—no agreed-upon proposals to achieve these ideals, no organization, no leadership, no coherent ideology. Any hint of a positive program would likely shatter the movement into its component war-bands, so revolt has come to mean an exercise in pure negation, in the repudiation of the status quo without an alternative in sight. At this point, the question of nihilism becomes impossible to avoid.”
    https://www.city-journal.org/2020-riots-protests

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30. 

    scenes

    04 September 2020

    BillT “revolt has come to mean an exercise in pure negation”
    Oooh, I like that. It’s quite a good article, I think I’ll get a copy of his book.
    There’s a ring of truth in Gurri’s description although it’s always best to think of social authors as merely a form of jumped-up monkey attempting to describe something bigger and more complex than themselves.
    In addition to modern telecommunications, there’s always the extra special fun of mass movement of peoples and overpopulation, especially in the third world. Carrying capacity is not merely a matter of feeding people from nutrient tanks although the lessons of rat utopias are quickly forgotten. Add in the traditional angle of business cycles and social unrest cycles (this last seems to track population statistics) and it’s party time.
    I suppose that in the long run the natural countermove will be firewalls, whether it’s a bonafide city wall or .gov control/surveillance of communications. The truly foresighted are either are on their way to Mars (E. Musk) or doing their best to build up social institutions (V. Putin).

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31. 

    Barry Pruett

    04 September 2020

    Trump landslide coming. I think that Todd is correct guessing over 300 electors. 🇺🇸

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32. 

    Scott O

    04 September 2020

    scenes 7:24 – “The truly foresighted are either are on their way to Mars (E. Musk) or doing their best to build up social institutions (V. Putin).”
    Yeah – good luck with that Mars thing. The atmosphere and climate will make living there on a permanent basis fraught with constant stress of a component failure. Putin is nothing more than a fairly successful mafia thug. I think he understands the warnings from folks like Nietzsche but he really isn’t going to build up anything more than some kind of Russian Nationalism that deep down most Russians know is filled with one sort of despotic rule after another.
    Xi is the one to watch. He knows how to rule. Fear. Lots of it. Constantly. Not the disorganized fear of the cancel culture but a tightly woven electronic net that encircles the whole populace under one set of societal rules.

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33. 

    scenes

    04 September 2020

    “Putin is nothing more than a fairly successful mafia thug.”
    I couldn’t disagree more. Nationalism and the state-sponsored resurgence of the church has pulled Russia through something that should have resulted in out and out disaster. It’s a pretty remarkable thing and I wouldn’t discount it. I’d say that the US currently lacks the social glue to go through anything near as extreme.
    Is Russia high-functioning? No, not particularly. Is it more stable than the West? I’d say yes. Putin strikes me as a man with more geopolitical insight than other heads of state.
    In terms of China, I’d say that the ruling class there is riding the tiger. It’s more close to carrying capacity than other countries and if any of 100 things fail, the whole she-bang melts down. There are too many potential opportunities for systemic collapse there. Depending on continuous ramping up of top-down controls is a dangerous game.

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    Scott O

    04 September 2020

    scenes – 8:01 – I would agree with your scenario about Russia, but the ‘glue’ holding it together is ultimately too weak. Putin is on the right track as he has done his best with what he has to work with, but it won’t last. My opinion. Could be wrong.

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35. 

    scenes

    04 September 2020

    “Yeah – good luck with that Mars thing. The atmosphere and climate will make living there on a permanent basis fraught with constant stress of a component failure. ”
    Also, I have to say that I’m not talking specifically about going to Mars and living in a dome with a good vacuum cleaner, it’s merely a rhetorical device.
    The main point is that the West needs to either improve it’s system of firewalls between people or to improve it’s bottom-up social cohesion (which, by it’s nature, implies tamping down ‘diversity’). I’m repeating myself here, but I think you missed the point.

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36. 

    Scott O

    04 September 2020

    scenes – “but I think you missed the point.”
    No – I get the point completely, but I think the examples you gave weren’t a very good way going forward.
    Our nation is fractured and the firewalls you speak of need to be in each and every one of us. We were a country founded on the idea that we all have the right to our own opinion and freedom to express it. Unfortunately too many (looking at leftists) think they have the right to not only express their opinion but that everyone else is required to validate and celebrate their opinion.
    Let’s face it – it’s only a very, very, tiny minority of people causing physical trouble right now, the big trouble are the number of people that are cowed into silence and inaction in the face of obvious uncivilized behavior.

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37. 

    Scott O

    04 September 2020

    Ah, another day and more fake news from AP.
    “The demonstrations that started in late May after the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis…”
    So – when was the trial? I must have missed it.
    https://idahonews.com/news/local/portlands-grim-reality-100-days-of-protests-many-violent-09-04-2020
    Anything to continue the narrative. And people do what people do.

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38. 

    scenes

    04 September 2020

    “No – I get the point completely, but I think the examples you gave weren’t a very good way going forward.”
    Oh well, I’ll try better next time. Perhaps best to stick to concrete and obvious examples.
    In terms of the founding of the United States, I think that people tend to get it backwards. It isn’t that a set of foundational rules and philosophy were given to 18th C. (mostly) English settlers, but that they wrote down things they already hewed to.
    Fracture the underlying culture and the bits of paper making up constitutions, legal codes, manifestos, aren’t worth the, well, paper they’re written on. Most laws are unwritten. I’d say that the notion of ‘freedom’ is insufficient social glue to hold the center together if it lacks the ballyhoo of something akin to shared patriotism of some sort. The Romans knew this, Putin knows it, the US is gonna find out.

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39. 

    scenes

    04 September 2020

    But it’s a dry heat.
    https://twitter.com/MichaeIReinoehI/status/1301746282826997760

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40. 

    George Rebane

    04 September 2020

    scenes and ScottO – You gentlemen are debating the format of the needed (coming?) Great Divide, a main theme of these pages since its inception. The dumbth of the electorate and the asymmetry of Left/Right objectives does not promise a peaceful attempt at parting. We would gladly be rid of them, but they will never let us go because they know their economy would collapse with all that entails.

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41. 

    Scott O

    04 September 2020

    scenes “I’d say that the notion of ‘freedom’ is insufficient social glue to hold the center together if it lacks the ballyhoo of something akin to shared patriotism of some sort. The Romans knew this, Putin knows it, the US is gonna find out.”
    I agree with this although the US knew this and along the way quite a large percentage of the population felt it was unnecessary.
    I think the problem began with too much ‘patriotism’ just being a bunch of flag-waving. And the underlying goodness of our ‘rules-on-paper’ was shoved aside. Our nation’s ‘culture’ is enmeshed with the founding documents. Look at all the folks that would be happy to tear up the Constitution and install the UN’s version. It’s all intertwined. Our culture, nationalism and our history. Too many have decided they either don’t want to have to work to get what they want or are unhappy that everything hasn’t turned out perfect for everyone. They are immature, uneducated and spoiled. They want to tear up everything. The documents, the culture, and the freedoms.
    There are still enough folks left to stop it, but for various petty reasons and lack of concern, they aren’t.

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42. 

    fish

    04 September 2020

    THIS IS WHAT MASS HYSTERIA LOOKS LIKE:

    USC Suspended a Communications Professor for Saying a Chinese Word That Sounds Like a Racial Slur: Greg Patton was describing the Chinese filler word “nega,” which earned him a temporary suspension.

    Thats pretty niggardly of them!
    https://reason.com/2020/09/03/usc-greg-patton-chinese-word-offended-students/?

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43. 

    Don Bessee

    04 September 2020

    More bad news for the TDS set –
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/04/rasmussen-trump-job-approval-bounces-to-52-percent/
    😉

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44. 

    George Rebane

    04 September 2020

    Administrivia – I draw your kind attention to the topics under the 4sep20 Scattershots. Please migrate your relevant commenting to that comment stream. Many thanks.

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45. 

    Paul Emery

    04 September 2020

    The Putin Cuddlers on Ruminations have their lankets all laid out and are in rapture mode while giving Putin a good snuggle.

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46. 

    Todd Juvinall

    04 September 2020

    The only cuddler here is you, Paul Emery. And your love of BLM and ANTIFA prove it.

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47. 

    fish

    04 September 2020

    The Portland shooter…..his arrest was “mostly peaceful”.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxNordau/status/1301728511418421250

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48. 

    George Rebane

    04 September 2020

    PaulE would have a leg to stand on if he could only compare the “cuddling” Obama did with Putin, to what Trump has done – i.e. compare the material responses to Russia such as our imposed and executed sanctions. (We all recall Obama’s open mic whisper to Medvedev to “tell Vladimir that I will have more flexibility after the election.”) But we always have to remember that once a leftist makes a naked accusation or allegation, that will also serve as a fully functional proxy for the missing evidence. That’s all a progressive needs to continue his arguments. The Big Lies continue.

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49. 

    Scott O

    04 September 2020

    Actually Paul complained about the ‘Putin-cuddlers’ posting here. He provided no names or proof, but when has Paul ever been so forth-coming?
    My ‘rapturous’ view of him was: “Putin is nothing more than a fairly successful mafia thug.”
    Come back again, Paul – your pathetic attempts to be relevant provide our humor.

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50. 

    fish

    04 September 2020

    Finally…..some good news with attendant accolades for the esteemed Mayor of Chicago!
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bl6l2CMXHow/X1GYi3iKjGI/AAAAAAAAIM0/Ku7MiNxxtcQ-FUy1bTjUpKviNKZSRbziwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Groot%2BUHaul.jpg

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