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Sandbox – 19aug20

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246 responses to “Sandbox – 19aug20”

  1. robert Cross Avatar
    robert Cross

    Steve who? Barely know him just like Epstein, Manafort, and Cohen. I might have met him once.

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  2. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Since the pony tail of ignorance is afraid to go to scattershots and the socialist dems helping the prez win we will bring the scattershots to him –
    ts going to be an issue everywhere not just in Michigan –
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-debbie-dingell-warns-democrats-that-concerns-over-violence-could-be-more-important-than-trade-this-election-year-002500849.html
    😉
    Posted by: Don Bessee | 20 August 2020 at 01:10 PM

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  3. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    This couldn’t be more perfect.
    “‘Fort Lori’: Chicago police ban protests on Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s block, order arrests for anyone who won’t leave”
    https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-chicago-police-lightfoot-protests-20200820-57vxhaa57jhijo3xllrflztcse-story.html

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  4. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Speaking of Chicago.
    “Riding in trucks and U-Hauls, vandals came to downtown Chicago on Sunday. They jammed streets around the Magnificent Mile, home of the city’s most important shopping district. They came prepared with tools like crowbars to pry open gates and take all the merchandise that they could pack. It was a strike directed at the heart of the city.”
    https://www.city-journal.org/looter-vandals-sack-chicagos-north-side
    Welcome to the future the Democrats have in store for everybody. U-Haul reparations.

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  5. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Oh Todd, you don’t understand that Presidential elections are won by delegates and right now Trump is down in all delegate polls. RCP which averages all state polls have him behind by 212-115. Since you like job approval polls take note that Trumps behind by 10.5% the average of all polls. Rasmussen is your cherry picked poll but it’s 15% of the average mark.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    A big one handed clap for the comic stylings of the pony tail of ignorance whistling past the graveyard. LOL
    😉

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  7. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Since his failure to find any polls recently lets help the po’ ol’ codger –
    Across 15 battleground states, the survey finds Biden has the backing of 49% of registered voters, while Trump lands at 48%.
    The movement in the poll among voters nationwide since June is concentrated among men (they split about evenly in June, but now 56% back Trump, 40% Biden), those between the ages of 35 and 64 (they tilt toward Trump now, but were Biden-leaning in June) and independents (in June, Biden held a 52% to 41% lead, but now it’s a near even 46% Biden to 45% Trump divide).
    Trump has also solidified his partisans since June. While 8% of Republicans or Republican-leaning independents in June said they would back Biden, that figure now stands at just 4%. And the President has boosted his backing among conservatives from 76% to 85%.
    ‘;-)

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  8. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    Booby X 5:04 – And who indicted and arrested Steve Bannon?
    Oh, that’s right – President Trump’s justice dept.
    And was Bannon arrested for anything to do with Trump?
    No.
    In fact, Trump had said he didn’t think private money being used for the wall was a good idea.
    Another lefty that shows up here swinging wildly and ends up smacking himself in his own face.
    The Bannon affair actually proves you leftys are totally wrong about Barr being a Trump-puppet getting Trump’s pals off the hook.
    Now you’ll have to find another non-issue to get all excited about.
    Your pathetic empty suits over at Dem HQ certainly don’t excite anyone save the Chi-Coms.

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  9. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Emery? Emery? Emery? so CCC it is! LOL
    😉

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    LETS GET READY TO RUMBLLLLEEEE!!! Its the miserables v the deplorables
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-nicknames-dnc-speakers-biden-campaign-coalition-of-the-miserable
    😉

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    S So what does it say when the dems draw flies on their face? Just wonderin’?
    Fly steals Bloomberg’s thunder by landing on his face during DNC speech
    A fly previously graced Hillary Clinton’s forehead during a 2016 presidential debate
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bloomberg-fly-face-democratic-convention
    😉

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  12. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    RE Don 6:58
    What polls are you referring to? Also can you provide a link. Thanks

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  13. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Lindsy Graham praises Biden
    “Sen. Lindsey Graham, one of President Donald Trump’s fiercest allies, praised former Vice President Joe Biden in the highest terms in a 2015 interview that resurfaced this week.
    In the clip from a Huffington Post interview, Graham gets emotional while calling Biden “as good a man God ever created” and “the nicest person I think I’ve ever met in politics.”
    also
    Sen. Lindsey Graham on Joe Biden: “If you can’t admire Joe Biden as a person then probably you’ve got a problem, you need to do some self-evaluation….He is as good a man as God ever created.”
    https://www.businessinsider.com/lindsay-graham-called-joe-biden-good-man-god-ever-created-2019-11

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    There is a lot of egg our local newsman needs to remove from his face. 4 years worth and counting. Oh Don, do my homework for me, please.
    ———————-
    When does the DNC convention start?? Anybody know? Nobody seems to want to discuss the event or get a mile close to it. Odd.

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  15. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    @919 they don’t want to get fly’s on their face!
    😉

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  16. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    What is so difficult about providing a source and link Bill? I’m sure Don will come through.

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  17. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    PaulE 917pm – People change.

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Famous last words: “I’m sure Don will come through.” Mercy.
    —————————————
    Great video….for whats it worth. What a field day for the heat.. I may repost this over on R.L. Misses by a Mile and dedicate the song to him.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=qTJzPeg8if4&feature=emb_logo

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    That 2015 Lynsey Graham interview was circling the web months ago. I think Bobbie the Super Twat or the Punch Drunk One posted that link twice in one day…again, months ago.
    It does show how Graham, not Biden, is the magnanimous one of the two, even back in 2015. You will never hear those kind words out of Biden’s mouth, even if insincere. The only ones Biden talked highly about were his fellow Democrat segregationists. He had kind words for them, alright.
    Lynsey, like many conservatives, does not think it is right to make fun of Dementia Joe. It’s a horrible thing to see someone, even like Biden, succumb to such a wrenched mind destroying disease. I even heard Biden has half a mind to run for President. Crazy times, bro.
    Guess the bottomline is the Dems are sooooo excited about their candidate and the big convention pow wow going on that they are scrapping the bottom of the barrel looking for something….anything….to dig up and throw at us. Even old forgotten half day stories. Talk about recycling garbage. Suppose it’s a lot better than talking about the current doings and going ons in the fractured Dem Party.
    Guess the real Bottomline is the wack jobs and unhinged are out of ammo again. That means it’s time to call us racists, as surely as night follows day. Their MO is predictable worn out, as well as pathetic. But, what would you do when you are surrounded and out of ammo? Call the deplorables names, that’s what you would do when there is that much egg on your face.

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, here is the convention bump in the polls that is to be expected, but not expected in the usual way. So much for tried and true convential wisdom.
    ‘Trump Approval Surges During DNC’
    https://bongino.com/trump-approval-surges-during-dnc
    Imagine throwing a hate-fest national party and Trump strolls in and flushes the liberal’s punch bowl. How rude!

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  21. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    A MUST READ:
    https://quillette.com/2020/08/16/the-challenge-of-marxism/

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: paul emery | 20 August 2020 at 09:17 PM
    Politician praises another politician…….Punchy feels tingly in his nether regions.
    As a newscrafter I thought you understood that overly effusive praise of one politician for another is merely for public consumption.
    Do get equally excited when they call each other “the distinguished gentleman from Crapville” or “the gentle lady from Bumfuck” on the Senate floor?
    In any case why would you post that here? You can’t really believe that it’s going to change any minds?

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  23. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BillT: “Guess the bottomline is the Dems are sooooo excited about their candidate and the big convention pow wow going on that they are scrapping the bottom of the barrel looking for something….anything….to dig up and throw at us.”
    Obviously that’s typical politician behavior. There’s a big three ring binder filled with oppositions research that is fed to the press on a schedule. The fact that old school MSM is completely in the pocket of one party (did that happen before? I honestly don’t remember anything like that. Perhaps during FDR’s reign.) plus the internet’s ability to add simultaneity to the mix makes it all more special.
    I wonder what the best move for Trump will be. You’ve got two career politicians with sketchy records to sift through, but I’m not sure that anyone really cares that much about Biden’s graft or Kamala’s behavior as a prosecutor (or time under Willie Brown). It might be simply enough to run hundreds of hours of rioters looting, beating people, heaving IEDs at police with a ‘do you want America to look like this?’ sort of tagline.
    The geniune danger to the Republic, of course, is CRT (Crazy Race Theory) which has taken hold at large organizations throughout the land. That’s the thing that will land us in the soup, or a re-education camp, potentially. Dunno if a Man With a Twitter Account can deal with that one, it’ll probably take a countervailing mass movement and potentially greater side effects than hurt feelings.
    In the meantime, our local Team Blue seem to be 1980’s Democrats who want national healthcare and ‘common sense’ gun laws. Perhaps it’s just simply due to living in an insulated area. Perhaps they think that the ‘adults’ will take over at some point. Perhaps they don’t care so long as Trump is gone. So far they haven’t spent a lick of time defending modern progressive ‘thought’.
    In any case, the pricking in my thumbs continues apace.

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  24. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Gregory: “A MUST READ:
    https://quillette.com/2020/08/16/the-challenge-of-marxism/“
    That really is an excellent article, although you know as well as I that anyone who really needs to read it, won’t.
    A key quote:
    “The most basic thing one needs to know about a democratic regime, then, is this: You need to have at least two legitimate political parties for democracy to work. By a legitimate political party, I mean one that is recognized by its rivals as having a right to rule if it wins an election. For example, a liberal party may grant legitimacy to a conservative party (even though they don’t like them much), and in return this conservative party may grant legitimacy to a liberal party (even though they don’t like them much). Indeed, this is the way most modern democratic nations have been governed.

    But legitimacy is one of those traditional political concepts that Marxist criticism is now on the verge of destroying. From the Marxist point of view, our inherited concept of legitimacy is nothing more than an instrument the ruling classes use to perpetuate injustice and oppression. The word legitimacy takes on its true meaning only with reference to the oppressed classes or groups that the Marxist sees as the sole legitimate rulers of the nation. In other words, Marxist political theory confers legitimacy on only one political party—the party of the oppressed, whose aim is the revolutionary reconstitution of society.”

    I can see the strength of historical analogy in trying to understand our current situation, but haven’t yet run into the current (usually unread) Marxist Bible or Great Man for the troops to rally around. Many of the same points could made by comparing the Blue Mob’s actions to the French Revolution or even the behavior of early Christians in their destruction of the classical world. The French situation needs more study by moi.
    Having been through this before, and seeing the danger of a US run by crazy zealots, it would be nice to see the current Russian thinking on this situation. Gotta look around.

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  25. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Gregory 1239am – good one.

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  26. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Speaking of current Russian thinking, I caught this mentioned in Pravda.
    https://bsc2020.net/7-VI-2020
    “We announce an initiative to Decolonize Byzantine Studies. We invite reflections on the question: Is Byzantine Studies a colonialist discipline? The first forum for discussion will be a webinar, “Towards a Critical Historiography of Byzantium,””
    lol. You just know this isn’t going to end well.

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  27. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    James Howard Kunstler speaks:
    “And so, the party of the Resistance has completed its solemn four day confab of info-ceremonials and sent forth its Primero Ingenioso Hidalgo, Joe Biden, on his limping horse of platitudes, armored by news media hosannahs, a saintly woman-of-color at his side to assist, tilting onward with his lance of moral instruction to bring love, hope and light to a world darkened by the shadow of MAGA-Diablo, Trump-the-Terrible. Plus, Joe promised to stop Covid-19 and cure cancer.
    …
    The Democrats have not called off their war-dogs and really everybody is aware of that. Antifa rioters have insulted the public order for eighty-some nights in Portland, Oregon, while the Democratic mayor, Ted Wheeler and the Democratic governor, Kate Brown, do absolutely nothing to stop it. Similar campaigns against civil order are run by Democratic mayors Lori Lightfoot in Chicago and Bill DeBlasio in New York City to the degree that these places may never return to the old normal. Mayor Jacob Frey allowed “social justice” mobs to burn down Minneapolis, leading the city council to logically propose abolishing the city’s police force. The Democratic regime in California uses hordes of the mentally ill homeless to prod its productive citizens to flee the state. Baltimore, Philadelphia, St Louis, Richmond, Louisville all yield to Democratic Party inspired violence and anarchy.
    ”
    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/good-trouble-and-not-good-trouble/

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  28. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    Paul Emery 9:17 – We’ve been asking Paul to come up with some reason (any reason) why we should vote for Biden and this is the best Paul can do: “Lindsy Graham praises Biden” (2015)
    That’s it.
    That’s all Paul can come up with.
    2015? Biden could probably articulate a complete thought in those days.

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  29. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    scenes 6:25 and 7:51 – “The geniune danger to the Republic, of course, is CRT (Crazy Race Theory) which has taken hold at large organizations throughout the land.”
    Yep – it doesn’t seem to matter who is POTUS. We’re stuck with institutionalized CRT. In the schools, universities, at work (govt and private) and on the streets.
    And it doesn’t stop people from ‘wrong thought’ it just pushes it underground. The rulers lose track of reality and end up thinking that everybody is on board with a headlong rush into left-wing insanity and they start implementing some really fun stuff like a cash-less society that monitors for ‘wrong purchase’.
    If that sounds silly to you leftys – consider that it’s already being implemented by some of the larger financial institutions. Legitimate, legal businesses being cut off from access to funding.
    C’mon leftys – do you really think it can’t (or won’t) happen to you?
    Look at history.
    While you’re still able to.

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  30. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “2015? Biden could probably articulate a complete thought in those days.”
    Looking back in the archives, he actually wrote real posts.
    It’s hard to tell whether he’s simply going down that dark path of age-related mental issues or perhaps he finds it impossible to justify how off-the-rails his side has gone in the last few years.
    A third possibility is that any sane thinking gets you kicked off the KVMR gravy train. It’s best to stick to clickbait articles and Trump polls when in a downtrend. It would be hard to give up a social life and the opportunity to play gawdawful old folk music that you think people need to hear.

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  31. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    More on – “it doesn’t matter who’s in the White House”:
    https://katu.com/news/local/ted-wheeler-releases-19-point-plan-to-achieve-racial-justice-in-portland
    The Dems may be in charge of the worst areas for violence, but that doesn’t stop them from ‘fixing’ the problem.
    Money quote: “”These actions are long overdue,” Wheeler said about his plan, “but they are not enough to dismantle institutional racism.”
    So he admits he’s too late with too little – but hey! Vote for us again next election!
    Be sure to click on the link in the article for the whole list of full-on bureaucratic wonk-babble BS.

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  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    Well….to her credit….it’s not as wacky as many of the other democrat “get out the vote” programs.

    Sumter mayoral candidate accused of faking her own kidnapping, beating for publicity

    Plus…..some bonus Kanye and his policy prescriptions at the link!
    https://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article245135460.html

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    And from America’s Newspaper of Record:

    Man Who Has Been In Government For Nearly 50 Years Promises To Fix Government.

    Now in Joey Fingers defense it was like 37th on his list! He might now just be getting to it.
    https://babylonbee.com/news/man-who-has-been-in-government-for-48-years-promises-to-fix-government

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott
    Did you watch Biden’s acceptance speech last night?

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Fox News applauds Biden’s speech:
    “Although President Donald Trump has tried to portray Biden as “not all there” and “mentally shot” as well as a captive of the far left, Fox News anchor Chris Wallace said the president will have a tough time with that argument after Biden’s speech at the Democratic National Convention.
    “I thought that he blew a hole, a big hole, in that characterization,” Wallace said. “It seems to me that after tonight, Donald Trump is going to have to run against a candidate, not a caricature.”
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-hosts-praise-biden-speech_n_5f3f6e9cc5b6763e5dc18e60

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    270towin polling map shows Biden up 301 to 119. Looking grim for Trump. Absolutely no bounce after his major address on economic issues last week.
    https://www.270towin.com/maps/biden-trump-polling-map

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  37. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Oh my Paul Emery shows what a person can become when he thinks someone else agrees with him that he has always hated. Chris Wallace is a never Trumper bub. And it looks really good for Trump’s election if we can keep the democrats from stealing it. And all those Millenials won’t be showing up either as Kamala is on the ticket. I thnk you for that pick.

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  38. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    PaulE 1103am – To achieve their ‘fair and balanced’ goal, FN also features liberal program hosts and commentators (don’t expect any of that from the Dems’ lamestream lackeys). Chris Wallace is a dyed-in-wool liberal, so you should always expect favorable reviews of liberals from him (including mushball questions to liberals on his Sunday show). Having Wallace applaud Biden is far from FN doing that as a network. Hope this helps.

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  39. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 August 2020 at 10:58 AM
    Scott
    Did you watch Biden’s acceptance speech last night?
    I trust that Scott has better uses for his time than listening to that sacrificial democratic hack.

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  40. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Are you speaking for Scott as his agent nowadays fish?

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  41. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Speaking of applauding. The only bit of the DNC anointing of their puppet that I’ve seen.
    https://twitter.com/michaelbeatty3/status/1295909576450088960
    Cringe City here we come. I’m assuming that his earpiece said to stand up.

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  42. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    George
    Chris Wallace is the News Anchor for Fox News which means he’s the #1 guy on the news team. He’s the Editor to ompare his role with print journalism

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  43. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    A TV anchor is not the same thing as a newspaper editor. You are probably thinking of some form of producer.
    I see that 270towin showed Clinton v. Trump as 227 to 163 on Aug. 21, 2016.

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  44. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: paul emery | 21 August 2020 at 12:32 PM
    Are you speaking for Scott as his agent nowadays fish?
    Mere supposition on my part Punch. Technically I believe that even you would have spent your time more productively had you not wasted time watching Joey Fingers drone on about some mythical “unity” that he promises to deliver.

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  45. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Scenes writes:
    I see that 270towin showed Clinton v. Trump as 227 to 163 on Aug. 21, 2016-up 64
    Today Biden is up 301 to 119-up 182 Quite a difference

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  46. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: paul emery | 21 August 2020 at 12:32 PM
    Are you speaking for Scott as his agent nowadays fish?
    What are you getting at Punch?
    Thanks in advance.

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  47. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Self explanatory. You are speaking for Scott. Are you his agent and did he give you permission to speak for him?

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  48. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Some of that free speech thang from Portlandia.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/KittyLists/status/1296628991445491712

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  49. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scenes Unleashed @ 12:33 pm, Year Zero.
    re: celebrate, good times.
    That one broad shouldered busty blonde in the Trans-Rights shirt looks like she could break every bone in a man’s spine by crossing her legs and putting him in the scissors squeeze, larger bosoms not withstanding. I won’t mess with that non-uterus woman, no siree.

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  50. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Somehow I doubt that the local PD had a extra-special investigation.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07iHuFBnblM

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