362 responses to “Sandbox – 29mar20”

1. 

   bertie

   02 April 2020

   Posted by: fishy | 02 April 2020 at 09:54 AM —
   …..spawn

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2. 

   fish

   02 April 2020

   Posted by: bertie | 02 April 2020 at 10:10 AM
   It’s a lovely gesture but you’re simply not my type Bertie. But don’t you give up hope….somebody out there for you I’m sure!

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   George Rebane

   02 April 2020

   bertie 923am – Welcome back bertie. I hope you are wizened a bit on your faux pas about the reliability of published C19 data – well, maybe not. But your parroting leftwing attacks characterizing the whole Right as now vilifying Dr Fauci continues to show your lack of understanding about what’s really going on in the country. Snark über alles.

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   Walt

   02 April 2020

   Fish. Never really cared for 9MM.
   .45 or 10mm is the way to go. So no matter where you hit the POS that dares come in uninvited, they are going down.
   I kinda wish I got a Sig when I was gun shopping. I bought a Kimber instead. “Kim” is not a bad weapon by any means. The Sig had a longer barrel.

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5. 

   Bill Tozer

   02 April 2020

   Guns:
   Oh boy. More than one gun dealer/gun shop is putting the word out to friggin Crazy Californians in other states to QUIT calling them. Here two more dealers go off since the first one I posted. The dealers are getting pissed at Californians, roflmao. They want it and they want it NOW! Don’t work that way.
   No, you cannot order a gun on-line from another state, despite what David Hogg, Don Rogers, and the Lamestream media has been spouting. “Stop calling us, you friggin crazy Californians!” There are laws they have to follow. They can sent a firearm to a licensed dealer, but then you and the supplier have to follow at local, state, and applicable laws, including background checks,
   In a way, it’s the perfect example of how the public has been fed misinformation.
   https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10157216267510914/?type=3&theater

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6. 

   Don Bessee

   02 April 2020

   Cant a communist dictator get a break or why you should ram a ship that’s designed to sail in iceberg waters –
   https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2020/29297/cruise-ship-sunk-venezuelan-navy-ship-and-fled-pro/
   😉

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7. 

   Don Bessee

   02 April 2020

   Creepy grampa joe pandering for the jihadi mutha mullah vote? –
   Biden calls for Iran sanctions relief during coronavirus pandemic
   https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-iran-sanction-relief-coronavirus
   😉

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8. 

   Gregory

   02 April 2020

   guns indeed
   a three judge panel from the 9th circus reviewed duncan v. becerra this morning
   https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/view_video.php?pk_vid=0000017250&fbclid=IwAR1ysckiI3gACcvFZivli6BRxm1cu3GfS8rwoRPw1u69U2WCO6s-IIxFSXQ
   Intesting arguments… I think Judge Benitez did a good job originally, I’m going to expect the panel will reinstate his order allowing magazines larger than 10.
   I disagree with Walt… 9mm Luger is a fine cartridge… and the Browning P-35 is superior to the Browning M1911 mostly because of the staggered column 13 round standard magazine.

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9. 

   Don Bessee

   02 April 2020

   @645 Twelve gauge OO magnum mixed with magnum hollow point slugs. That will send them right back out the door!
   😉

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10. 

    Walt

    02 April 2020

    That aint fair Gregory,, 13 rounds ain’t legal here.(yet)
    Or did I miss somthing?
    As for the Luger round, it’s still 9mm.
    The difference between 9mm and 9mm Luger is either nothing or the latter is part of the former. Depending on how you define it.

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    Walt

    02 April 2020

    It’s time some dirty cops go to jail.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/02/audit-fbi-may-have-obtained-fisa-warrants-using-inaccurate-nonexistent-supporting-docs/

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12. 

    Walt

    02 April 2020

    Here he is again Scenes and Fish…
    https://www.theunion.com/news/crime/suspect-in-muffler-shop-robbery-arrested-in-grass-valley/

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13. 

    Gregory

    02 April 2020

    Walt, the law making 13 round magazines illegal in Kali had been on hold forever… the date for getting rid of them saw a stay. Then he blew up the restrictions and a week where they could be purchased in Kali came; it was put on hold, agin, and this review is the result.
    the 3 judges may make it right. Or not. but in the meantime if you have a magazine legally purchased, you can keep it.

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14. 

    Gregory

    02 April 2020

    …and there is no cartridge named “9mm”.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_mm_caliber

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15. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    re: Gregory@8:39PM
    Just like there’s no .45, .223, and .308, but people know what you mean. That language, it be a fluid thing.

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16. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    re: Walt@8:11PM
    Watching the jail media log and the court cases now and again, the county (and state) appear to have been on a catch and release system for some time. They’ll go after respectable people hammer and tongs for money owed on a seat belt ticket, but there’s an entire class of people who can do as they like.
    I wonder sometimes if we are heading into an interesting experiment where, especially for property crimes, there is neither policing or vigilantism. Dunno how the law-abiding public will evolve it’s behavior.

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17. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    “Walt, the law making 13 round magazines illegal in Kali had been on hold forever”
    Thanks for keeping track on that, it’s not a thing I run into on the web and forget to look up how that law is doing. It’s one of those things that irritates me no end and is made worse by merely being an onlooker.
    Stupidest rule ever, although I guess it’s no worse than defining an ‘assault weapon’ as something with a bunch of meaningless features.
    There’s just so many things wrong with gun control measures dreamed up by these people, but at least they haven’t restricted purchases of plastic knives (yet).

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18. 

    Walt

    03 April 2020

    Morn’n Scenes, your right. if you don’t have money to go after as “punishment” your not worth the government’s efforts. Your a new cost. Just like the one the jail refused to lock up, that was in the police blotter yesterday.

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19. 

    Walt

    03 April 2020

    WoW Gregory,, did Dougy do an impersonation again?

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20. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    re: Walt@8:05
    My genuine impression is, so far as ‘mere’ stuff is concerned, you are either supposed to just suck it up or use purely passive security systems. Maybe the idea is that we all live in bank vaults as you aren’t allowed to protect yourself in any meaningful way that might hurt our new protected classes. Make sure and buy a really nice golden retriever and a Nerf gun.
    This is nothing new but has been increasing over time. For one thing, California homeless love gives you a ready-made criminal class spread hither and yon.
    Seriously, I can definitely see a business opportunity in installing higher end door locks, security window film, building good quality garages, some kind of invention for secure Amazon delivery.

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21. 

    fish

    03 April 2020

    Posted by: scenes | 03 April 2020 at 08:29 AM
    Seriously, I can definitely see a business opportunity in installing higher end door locks, security window film, building good quality garages, some kind of invention for secure Amazon delivery.
    Seriously, I can definitely see a business opportunity in the surreptitious disposal of the bodies of opportunist just released criminals trying their respective hands at home invasion.

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22. 

    Walt

    03 April 2020

    Scenes.
    https://www.windowparts.com/product-p/a-2579771.htm?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuuqcncvM6AIV1CCtBh1zrwOZEAQYBSABEgJPOfD_BwE
    Even the cops would find this tough to get through.

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23. 

    fish

    03 April 2020

    Posted by: Walt | 03 April 2020 at 08:39 AM
    Crap…..reconsidering the subject of yesterdays gun purchase…..10mm….almost two grand!
    Might need to downscale a bit!
    https://hk-usa.com/hk-models/usp-tactical/

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24. 

    fish

    03 April 2020

    Might need to close Italics!

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25. 

    Walt

    03 April 2020

    Yes Fish,, quality firearms ain’t cheap.
    Lil’ Kim ran me 1000, bucks.

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26. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    re: Walt@8:39AM
    I’ve seen those very things before. They always seem to be on doors with windows. Go figure.

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27. 

    George Rebane

    03 April 2020

    Reading about all this gun buying and ammo labeling, I’m a bit surprised. I thought all of you gentlemen were already well armed and ready to defend your property lines. Buying guns now when even some progressives are starting to have 2A epiphanies seems to be the wrong time, unless you’re out there to also stoke the economy. Watashi-wa wouldn’t know where to put a new shootin’ arn in Festung Rebane.

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28. 

    fish

    03 April 2020

    Posted by: George Rebane | 03 April 2020 at 09:50 AM
    Can neither have too many guns nor too many motorcycles!
    Plus there is still some empty space in the safe! Not a lot but some!

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29. 

    Gregory

    03 April 2020

    gr 950am
    No new firearms here, and I have more ammo than I could expect to use against targets that are shooting back.
    Hmmm… how many 9mm Kurz do I need?

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30. 

    Bill Tozer

    03 April 2020

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Highly respected Justice Daniel Kelly is running for the Supreme Court in the Great State of Wisconsin. Justice Kelly has been doing a terrific job upholding the Rule of Law and defending your #2A. Tough on Crime, Loves our Military and our Vets. He has my Complete Endorsement!
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1246123536143573001
    ————————-
    One little man and his pen and paper letter to Chuckie the Clown
    “No wonder AOC and others are thinking of running against you in the primary. If they did, they would likely win,” Trump wrote in a scathing letter.

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31. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    ” I have more ammo than I could expect to use against targets that are shooting back.”
    That’s always been my take. Aside from serious target practice needs, it isn’t like you’ll get the opportunity to let 10k rounds let fly at bad people. Odds don’t favor it, or you’ll die of old age first.
    I think the main point of a big ol’ ammunition cache is because it angers the right people, which does have some value. Make sure to display pictures of it on DailyKos.

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32. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    GeorgeR: “Buying guns now when even some progressives are starting to have 2A epiphanies seems to be the wrong time”
    I think it’s because I brought up the idea of buying a rifle with my Trumpbux. It’s a highly amusing idea.
    At this point, I would only think about something more exotic. Gyrojets cost too much to shoot, so I’m left with Saiga 12s and FiveseveNs.

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33. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    moi@12:14PM
    Hang on. Maybe an Auto Mag. Get my Dirty Harry thang goin’ on. Gnome sayin’?

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34. 

    fish

    03 April 2020

    Oh noes…..sucks to be a helpless progressive waif these days! Speaking of that…..Punchy……calling Punchy…..let us know you’re still alive boy!! (Who am I kidding…we won’t see him until a poll goes his way again and stiffens that wrinkly spine of his!)
    

    “My son was a little upset about it.” (He preferred his bow and arrow.) “I’m old and I live alone, and we don’t know if there’s going to be civil unrest. The world is not the same.” She added, “It didn’t have to be this way.” Unlike many of the shop’s regulars, she was no fan of Trump: “He’s a divider all the way. First he said, ‘Five people have died, big deal.’ Now he’s saying, ‘I always knew it’d be dangerous.’ ” Talk turned to Portland. “It’s a ghost town,” a young woman said. Her name was Rosemary, and she was helping Bales out, since the restaurant where she waited tables had closed.
    “I don’t like to go in cities anymore, anyway,” the customer said.
    “But these rumors about them putting this country in full lockdown are inaccurate,” Rosemary said. “It’s a scare tactic. It’s not like all of a sudden we’re gonna wake up one day and everyone is sick and the whole world is ending.”

    https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/04/02/yes-liberals-are-buying-guns-too/
    https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2020/04/03/federal-judge-oks-california-gun-store-shutdowns/

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35. 

    George Rebane

    03 April 2020

    re scenes 1211pm – as I’ve mentioned before, when times get really tough (or come the revolution) ammo also becomes a proxy for money along with gold and silver coins/bars, and certain other readily usable commodities easily valued.

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36. 

    Bill Tozer

    03 April 2020

    The return of Daily Quotes to the Sandbox
    Insight: “A people who mean to be free must be prepared to meet danger in person, and not rely upon the fallacious protection of armies.” —Edmund Randolph (1753-1813)
    Upright: “Washington is spending like never before in the national fight against the coronavirus pandemic. Deficit hawks are as hard to find as toilet paper — even in the supposedly debt-averse GOP. … Few experts would … counter the idea that the nation needs a big upgrade — though maybe not $2 trillion worth — to its roads and bridge, as well as better digital infrastructure. Just not now, OK?” —James Pethokoukis
    Observations: “Governments right now are not deciding whether to do nothing or do something. Rather, they are confronting choices about which restrictions should be imposed, where they make sense, and how long they should be maintained. In this context, a simple binary choice between ‘intervention’ and ‘no intervention’ is highly misleading.” —Jacob Sullum
    Economic ambiguity: “The Paycheck Protection Program pays businesses to maintain their labor demand, while Pandemic Unemployment Assistance pays workers to reduce their labor supply. How the two programs will interact is unclear.” —Samuel Hammond
    For the record: “While most Americans under coronavirus lockdown are worrying about their jobs, their groceries, and their local doctors and nurses, congressional Democrats have other priorities. To wit, pin blame on the Trump Administration before the November election.” —The Wall Street Journal
    Never let a crisis go to waste: “Absolutely we see this as an opportunity to reshape the way we do business and how we govern.” —Gov. Gavin Newsom
    Epic lack of self-awareness: “Where there’s money there’s also frequently mischief. We want to make sure there are not exploiters out there.” —Inspector Clouseau Nancy Pelosi
    Braying jackass: “I hope when the time for accountability comes, we can all remember that it didn’t have to be like this. Other countries responded to this pandemic with competence and they avoided the worst. Now, we’re bracing for an unimaginable tragedy and as we speak, the president is leaving besieged states and hospitals to fend for themselves, putting lives at risk.” —Seth Meyers
    And last… “The question isn’t whether government has power. Government is power. The question is how and when to apply that power. And what we’ve seen is that government sucks at everything, even the most basic things it is supposed to do well.” —Ben Shapiro

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37. 

    fish

    03 April 2020

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 03 April 2020 at 12:35 PM
    Never let a crisis go to waste: “Absolutely we see this as an opportunity to reshape the way we do business and how we govern.” —Gov. Gavin Newsom
    Yes….he’ll almost certainly fuck this up…..but I’m still willing to see if pretty, pretty Gavin can thread the needle!

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38. 

    Walt

    03 April 2020

    Ponder this Proggys,, if you believe gov. should be paying for abortions,(some perceived right) then the gov. should be paying for my 2ND Amend. “needs”(and actual right). If I’m running low on ammo, it should be provided. If the gun is worn out, it should be replaced by the gov.
    Try and “un”justify that.

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39. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    ” as I’ve mentioned before, when times get really tough (or come the revolution) ammo also becomes a proxy for money along with gold and silver coins/bars, and certain other readily usable commodities easily valued.”
    Load up on cigarettes and liquor.
    Given the US inability to produce most manufactured goods, I figure the most important person in town is going to be the machinist.

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40. 

    Bill Tozer

    03 April 2020

    Let the record show that the Founding Fathers never ceded the right to bear arms to the government.
    The General Welfare Clause does not supersede the rights not granted to government (textualist).

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41. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    moi@12:58
    Seriously, somebody should do an in-depth study of the economies of places like Russia or Yugoslavia during their collapses. What actually had value? What is the smart move?
    If you weren’t there, I expect that your guesses are wrong.

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42. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    “The question isn’t whether government has power. Government is power. The question is how and when to apply that power. And what we’ve seen is that government sucks at everything, even the most basic things it is supposed to do well.”
    lol. Well, there is that isn’t there.
    You need large organizations to get certain things done, but they don’t have your interests at heart.

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43. 

    Gregory

    03 April 2020

    No collapses with Yugoslavia’s devolving into its constituent countries. Not Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia Inagadadavida, or Republika Macedonia.
    Asked just now of a full blooded Serb born in Indiana, who has close ties with the old country.

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44. 

    Gregory

    03 April 2020

    … and not Montenegro.

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45. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    re: Gregory@1:38
    I’ll have to put them in touch with an ex-coworker who made a living selling cigarettes in the middle of that. Lotsa interesting stories, not all good.

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46. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    So, taking George’s point about the value of ammunition, and a pilfered paragraph:
    “Inflation was nothing new to Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia had suffered double-digit inflation in every year save one between 1969 and 1986. Inflation rose to even higher levels after 1985, moving from 87% in 1985 to 162% in 1987 and to 2719% in 1989. When the United Nations imposed sanctions on Yugoslavia in 1992, the country quickly collapsed into hyperinflation. Prices increased 17,200% in 1992, and an incredible 3 quadrillion percent in 1993. Inflation was 1788% in December 1993 and 4139% in January 1994, though one wonders how the government arrived at such exact figures. The hyperinflation finally ended in March 1994, and by 1995, the annual inflation rate was a more “normal” 122%.”
    Where do you park assets? Precious metals? Probably none to be had. People were probably tripping over ammunition. Johnnie Walker? Real estate? Beanie babies?
    It’s an interesting thought problem and I have a feeling that people who are sure of their answer are likely to be wrong.

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47. 

    Bill Tozer

    03 April 2020

    Parking assets? No advice. But, for the Emergency kit…..
    Well, I am of the belief if the dollar collapses, a good thing in the survival kit is silver….just regular silver coins pre-1964, 90% silver. Half dollars, silver dollars. Easy to exchange with anyone for goods and smaller denominations that break down or add up to almost exact amounts in exchange for goods and services. Not a lot of folks can/will take a gold bar and give you change back in gold on the spot. Just sayin.
    Helpful hint of the day: If the grocery stores run out of TP, grab a head of lettuce. Cheap, organic, cool and refreshing, and off to garden mulch pile to enrich the soil afterwards. It’s what the preppers are calling “The tip of the iceberg.”

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48. 

    scenes

    03 April 2020

    “Parking assets? No advice. But, for the Emergency kit…..”
    Dunno about junk silver. It’s a good story, but I’ve never heard of it being tested.
    I think that the normal model for emergencies is to have assets in another place. Thus you get metal storage in Singapore and house buying by Chinese in Vancouver. Switzerland uber alles. It’s a trickier matter in a worldwide sitch. For normal folks, just a bit of food, beer, and place to send the sewage is probably sufficient, as it should be for anyone.

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49. 

    Bill Tozer

    03 April 2020

    What is disconcerting is during this National Emergency, the Fed is taking over the capital liquidity market, i. e., the Commerical lending markets..

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50. 

    Walt

    03 April 2020

    It’s the little old lady from San Francisco
    (go Nancy, go Nancy, go Nancy, go!)
    Illegals in her vineyard stomp the Pinot Grigio
    (go Nancy, go Nancy, go Nancy, go!)
    Got a mind like a rickety old garage
    And a face like the leather in a ’58 Dodge.
    The sidewalk homeless say there’s no one as loco
    As the little old lady from San Francisco
    She spun real fast and she swore real hard,
    When she slipped in human feces on the boulevard
    It’s the little old lady from San Francisco!
    Oh, her flawless elocution keeps the press in stitches
    (go Nancy, go Nancy, go Nancy, go!)
    They all take bets on when she’ll soil her britches
    (go Nancy, go Nancy, go Nancy, go!)
    Her constituents come from miles around
    just to set up tents on her district’s ground.
    It’s the little old lady from San Francisco!

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