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RL Crabb is prominent in today’s (21jan20) Union lambasting AB5, the latest socialist outrage from Sacramento. (more here)  This piece of dreadful anti-work legislation has finally caught enough of our liberal artsy-fartsy crowd to also get them squawking – less known, AB5 impacts at least as many of California’s high-tech STEM consultants and freelancers.  Our cartoonist friend Bob Crabb’s distress (here) puts paid on what most of us have known about his true ideological colors – for shur he ain’t no middle-roader.  Regardless of his ire against the state’s Democrats – it’s akin to my ire against the state’s Republicans, but I don’t pretend to be a mid-roader – he cannot countenance the other side, even in the face of AB5.  “I also do not agree with those who want to steer clear of partisan politics. This bill is 100% Democrat. It was written by an assemblywoman who curses like a sailor and dismisses us as whiners who are too dense to understand how fortunate we are to have her party looking out for our well-being.  It passed on a straight party line vote. It was signed by a governor who just dedicated millions of dollars to enforcing it.  California Democrats believe they have little to fear from the riffraff at the bottom tier of workers. We are, after all, musicians, journalists, community theaters, and cartoonists. What are we going to do? Vote for Republicans? Ha ha ha!”  As you can see, regardless of the years of collectivist crap flowing from our Democrat legislature, Bob would not change his vote to give us bottom tier riffraff a chance to sell our services as we choose – a few eggs have yet to be cracked and sacrifices have to be made.

GreenKoolAidCalifornia leavin’ should be the title of a new musical lament for all those folks heading out of state.  But there’s enough of us disgruntled Golden Staters to take and remake the places where we land and put down new stakes.  An example is Star, Idaho, a small town near where one of our dear departed California expats and RR readers now lives.  Star’s population has more than doubled in the last ten years as couples like JT and Mary Jo Turnipseed (their real name, honest!) left SoCal and moved in to experience small town living at its best.  Well, no more.  “Now Star is grappling with some of the same problems the Turnipseeds left California to escape. The town’s main drag, where ranchers once drove their cattle, is clogged with traffic during rush-hour commutes. Sprawling subdivisions have sprouted up around farmland, as have new chain stores. The median home price has more than doubled to nearly $400,000 since 2010.” (more here)  The most amazing thing to me is still the utter blindness of our states overwhelming population of leftwing loonies who deny that any of this exodus is going on.  It mirrors exactly their grossly distorted perception of the realworld which is their daily drink from the lamestream.  For them, another sip of that Kool-Aid, and all’s right with the world.


[22jan20 update]  Today at lunch with a longtime friend of, shall we say, a different socio-political persuasion, we discussed the “overwhelming” evidence which the Dems proclaimed to the nation in support of their case to convict President Trump of ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’, and get him out of 1600 Pennsylvania before he trounces them at the polls this November.  My friend strongly argued the prosecution’s call for additional witnesses and documents, with which to catalyze the evidence developed during the weeks of House impeachment hearings that, it now appears, did not overwhelm anyone and will not overwhelm anyone in the Senate chamber.  The Dems’ evidence is essentially limp and ludicrous on arrival, and needs at least another fishing expedition launched to prop it up and give it some, any, substance before the president is summarily acquitted.  But calling for witnesses is really a bluff by the Dems on which Majority Leader McConnell may well call Team Nancy and lead to a sanitary problem in multiple shorts.  My prognosis is that the Dems will do nothing which results in any Biden taking the witness stand, let alone requiring Mr Lead Prosecutor Adam Schiff to also raise his hand and swear to tell the truth for a change.

[23jan20 update]  The unmitigated hatred of Trump by our Left is on full display in ‘Time for Trump to go’ by local leftwinger Nancy Eubanks in the 23jan20 Union.  There the newspaper gives the lady the entire prime-spot left panel to lambaste the president.  And she does not hold back, spewing unsupported allegation after allegation and obvious lie after lie, all the while calling Trump the nation’s consummate liar whose lies average “over 10 times every day according to several nonpartisan fact checkers.”  Has anyone ever asked how many lies about Trump come out daily from Team Nancy, the multitude of lamestream news outlets, the countless campuses across the country, the Dems’ impeachment brigade (Schiff’s speech yesterday on the Senate floor was a doozy – more here), and the entertainment media’s daily dose of films and TV programs??

[24jan20 update]  Irrefutable proof that stupid is contagious.  The Dems are proposing to make California’s horrendously stupid AB5 the law of the land.  This proposal has now been endorsed by their top presidential candidates Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and Pete Buttigieg.  Talk about a slate of ignorant?cynical anti-Americans wanting to become chief executive – they are all extreme leftwingers.  Today this law is causing chaos in the state’s employment markets, and is even being opposed by liberals whose jobs are in peril or already history.  In desperation the Sacramento stupidos are trying to do a workaround with a growing pile of special interest carve-outs before they accelerate California’s calamitous worker exodus, indigent immigrations, shrinking tax base, economic contraction, and most importantly, voter defections. (more here and here) Perhaps the passage of such destructive legislation, that is finally a shot into our socialists’ shorts, will help Republicans to launch a resurgence of sanity in California.

DemTaxIncreases2020[27jan20 update]  That Democrats are now the anti-American party is confirmed by three things which uniquely identify them – 1) ALL of them are willing to risk the US economy through massive tax increases to buy votes needed to stay in power through directed wealth redistribution – moderate Democrats are a myth, 2) NONE of them have any social policies save to remove President Trump from office before the November election (H/T to reader who posted the latest VDH piece on the topic), 3) ALL are globalists first, prepared and pursuing means to reduce US sovereignty and hegemony in favor of submitting to globalist organizations in economics, trade, governance, and world order.

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306 responses to “Scattershots – 21jan20 (updated 27jan20)”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    The pathetic California Republican Party is to blame for the lack of organized resistance to AB5. You can thank Trump for that.

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 January 2020 at 10:15 AM
    But we’re blue….BLUE I tell you!
    #putz

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  3. Scott O Avatar

    You beat me to it, George – I was going to post something about poor old Star. Star is just 6 miles to our east. Sully’s Pub is our go-to for really good lunches and dinner as well as a great selection of adult beverages on tap. It sits square in the middle of ‘downtown’ Star and parking is getting to be a problem.
    The whole state is ruined, I tell ya. If you want to leave Cali, look elsewhere for your new Eden.
    We’re full up, scram.
    Shoo – go away!

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  4. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1015am – Amazing how you liberals are able to be either 1) blind to the ruins of socialism, or 2) blaming the Right for all the ills wrought by the Left. What a great solution; sweet.
    ScottO 1120am – Yes, Jo Ann and I were thinking of you both up there being followed by the hordes. The only hopeful consolation is that your new immigrants aren’t of the kind that bring their ‘San Francisco values’ with them. Such people are both dedicated and dense, they have no idea what caused the problems that made them move, and they’ll attempt to equally soil their new homes. Arizona is a posterchild of this happening right now. Socialism is a social disease.

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery | 21 January 2020 at 10:15 AM
    Oh my, now that is something new from the lib. Your ilk has been in charge of the legislature all my life except 1996. All these laws RL and you now are impacted by are your party’s making. Republicans have clean hands. Since you stole another seven Con seats in 2018 and have had a supermajority for the last few years, the voters can now see what we have been saying will happen if you all got the reigns. And it all came true. Now poor RL gets some blowback from his preferred politicians and it is not pretty. As a contractor, I had to deal with all this over many years. Now the lib artsy-fartsy types get a taste.

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    In my view AB5 was a really poor piece of legislation and had no effective opposition. I blame the Republicans for that because they claim to be our so called protectors from Liberal dominance. Remember, I am a Green Libertarian not a Democrat so I don’t necessarily support everything they do.

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  7. Rcross Avatar
    Rcross

    Amazing how you conservatives are able to be either 1) blind to the ruins of corporate capitalism , or 2) blaming the Left for all the ills wrought by the right.
    there are two sides to every coin

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  8. Scott O Avatar

    Rcross 12:23 – “…blind to the ruins of corporate capitalism…”
    You obviously just started to read George’s blog today or you would realize how idiotic that sounds. Conservatives have complained about corporatism for years.
    “…or 2) blaming the Left for all the ills wrought by the right.”
    Now – why am I not surprised you can’t come up with one single example of that?
    Another rock thrower.
    Next!

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    Rcross 1223pm – Perhaps, but not to this coin. RR has always opposed corporatism (perhaps your reading skills have denied you this knowledge). And the record of open markets capitalism over the last two centuries has been and continues to be the biggest QoL blessing for all of humanity. The only ones who have been denied its benefit are those who lived under the heel of the Left, and those who continue to do so today. You and your ilk are doing your best today to return us to the days of autocratic collectivism in any and all of its forms. We all know that your ideology is the one that has to be imposed by the government gun; while enterprise, entrepreneurship, and individual initiative are the natural endeveavors which are immediately undertaken by free peoples everywhere. That’s why proscribing freedoms is always job one of socialism.
    PaulE 1218pm – I will have to take the time some day to explain to you and yours why that is the most perverse piece of reasoning ever. But it does explain the thought products of liberal thinking. ‘It’s your fault we continue to do shitty things, because you didn’t stop us.’

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Can you name a few countries and eras that have benefited from the open market capitalism that you touted as the “blessing for all of humanity?

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  11. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 108pm – You forget that we’ve circled this barn more times than I can count. Please read my previous answers, and the list of countries is too long. But the concept of open market capitalism cannot be grasped by ‘all or nothing minds’.

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  12. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 1218pm is back punching in as a “Green Libertarian”, a non-existent political party, apparently because of AB5.
    Wonders will never cease.
    I would suggest to RL Bozo to vote LIB if he can’t stomach voting REP, but he’s made it clear he can’t tell the difference.

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  13. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Here’s a Green “somebody stop me” for Punch:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91YS3fNegmE

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 1:22 pm
    Very Green, indeed.
    After reading recently the words of Greta, AOC, Bernie, the Women’s March, Ilhan Omar, and the entire Blame America grievance crowd (Lefties), one thing is clear above all other issues. It’s a War on Capitalism. All issues can be solved it they just cut off the head of Capitalism. That includes the GND, social justice, inequalities, and inequality.
    Capitalism must be stopped. Utopia and Capitalism cannot co-exist.

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  15. Scott O Avatar

    OK – here it is folks – the video you need to watch and pass the link to ALL of your friends so they can watch.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ku_kBrkvDk
    Don’t come here – it’s really awful. I mean really, really awful.
    I’d leave now if I could.
    Honest.
    Don’t move here.

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  16. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Paulie: “Can you name a few countries and eras that have benefited from the open market capitalism that you touted as the “blessing for all of humanity?”
    The Roman Republic.

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Great video Scott O. Oh, you should have heard what they were saying about Californians up in the stock stack in the 70’s and early 80’s. Whatever you do, tell them you are from Washington or Colorado…anywhere but CA.

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  18. rl crabb Avatar

    Yeah, you’re right, George. I still won’t vote for the party of limp weasels like Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell,and The Donald. Most likely I’ll go with the Libertarians, not that it will make any difference. Between the idiots on the left and the morons on the right, this country will be lucky to last another twenty years.

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  19. Walt Avatar

    Well Crabby,( Sasquatch here,😁) the nation has done VERY well with Trump at the helm… Has it not? Yet the ones you back here in Kalifornia, just stabbed ya’ in the back and gives it a good twist. As they say,, “with friends like that,,,,”
    Trump and the Repubs have been out to remove regulations for the working class.. And what has your team Commie done for ya’ here in Ca? Oh… You just griped about it. As it’s said,, you deserve the government you voted for. So… Just what are you going to do about it?

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  20. Scott O Avatar

    Crabby – “Most likely I’ll go with the Libertarians, not that it will make any difference.”
    By golly – there’s the attitude that made our country great!
    “Between the idiots on the left and the morons on the right, this country will be lucky to last another twenty years.”
    Actually – it’s the morons and idiots in the vast middle that seem to vote for all the trouble.
    Maybe Crabb and Emery, et al could just maybe write a few lines about something positive that they believe could advance our country.
    And no – just saying “we want what’s just and fair and happy” won’t cut it. Details will be needed.
    Not holding my breath.

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  21. rl crabb Avatar

    Walt, your skull must be made of solid bone, because you’re not hearing me. Voting Libertarian, as I have since the turn of the century, is hardly “my team commie”.

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Hey since there is not one libertarian in the Assembly or Senate maybe RL can explain his support for their ridding him of his AB5?

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    Ever since Rousseau cum Marx with the counter of Adam Smith and Bastiat (our interstitial Founders included), the world has had the binary choice of global collectivism or distributed open market capitalism. That is the cold reality which countenances no middle ground compromises for the simple reason that no one has put forth a believable and feasible middle ground. Today you’re either fighting for distributive individuality or marching in lockstep to the central planners and controllers. The mid-roaders simply don’t matter.
    Since I never say never (I’m a Bayesian who doesn’t believe in certain priors), I invite anyone to step up and posit any feasible road to a stable middle. BTW, the autocracy of the central planners is a much more stable destination than that of freedom and distributed enterprise, that in the system sciences is know as a state of conditional stability, ever liable to upset and which has come to be summarized by ‘the price of freedom is eternal vigilance’.

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  24. Scott O Avatar

    Todd 2:55 – Crabb already said that he realized voting Libertarian wouldn’t do any good.
    Crabby sez: “I still won’t vote for the party of limp weasels like Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell,and The Donald.”
    Of course those folks aren’t running in CA but hate is the main deal with these “middle of the road” types.
    OK fine – don’t vote for the ‘limp weasels’.
    But don’t be surprised if AB5 is only the beginning of the fun.

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  25. Scott O Avatar

    George 5:59 – The whole sticking point between the left and the right is the idea of what you want a govt to do.
    I’m painting with a very broad brush here, but it boils down to one group that believes that a govt should guarantee equal opportunity and the other believes that govt should guarantee equal outcomes.
    One side wants the govt to be the guardians of our rights and the others believe the govt should be the grantors of our goods.
    It’s freedom vs free stuff.
    History shows one works better than anything else and the other never works.
    Pointing to Europe and Scandinavia doesn’t even work anymore. It looked good for a while, but now the debts are coming due and the natives are getting a little more than restless.
    This country is actually extremely socialistic in many regards and it’s going to bite us in the ass pretty soon. Our govt made a boat load of promises and put most of the cost on the natl debt credit card.

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr Rebane @ 1:04 pm and Scott O @ 5:33 pm
    Crony Capitalism.
    Another billion dollars down the sink hole.
    Taxpayers Eat Another Solar Energy Flop
    “when governments pick winners, politics usually rears its ugly head. Official investigations and reporters dug into the story and found that, as the Washington Post reported, ‘Obama’s green‐​technology program was infused with politics at every level… Political considerations were raised repeatedly by company investors, Department of Energy bureaucrats and White House officials.’
    The family funds of Oklahoma billionaire George Kaiser, a big Obama fundraiser, owned a third of Solyndra. As the company was failing, Kaiser wrote to a Solyndra board member, ‘Why don’t you pursue your contacts with the WH?’ Two months later the board member wrote Kaiser, ‘The DOE really thinks politically before it thinks economically.’ Solyndra’s lobbyists met at least three times with an aide to top White House official Valerie Jarrett.
    Government subsidies can bring any business into existence. But apparently even subsidies can’t ensure the production of something useful.“
    https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/taxpayers-eat-another-solar-energy-flop

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  27. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    OK… RL sez he’s been voting LIB for 20 years.
    RL, this is for you:
    What happens IF and when a LIB wins… and whoever is in power pulls the same crap against them that was pulled against Trump during the campaign and afterwards? The innuendo, the spying?
    Refusing his or her exercise of constitutionally mandated authority and powers?
    What then, Bob?

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  28. Bonnie M Avatar
    Bonnie M

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 January 2020 at 10:15 AM
    You’re wrong Paul. If you don’t like anything going on in California you can blame our Democrat dictator government and those illegal and legal voters that keep it in power. Like it or not it’s reality. Don’t blame others for bad choices. Been watching this and the finger pointing for a long time.

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  29. Walt Avatar

    Well Crabbster. Keep doing the same damned thing and expecting a different result. How’s that been working for ya’?
    Good thing Trump has been doing a fantastic job. Yet you despise that, and will never vote to keep that going.
    It really sucks what the LIBcrats did to your line of work.
    Welcome to the club. Now get a good taste of what they have done to mine. Over and over. Mining, logging and the construction industry.
    So.. Do what you told me to do years ago.. Find another damned job.

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Learn to code

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Deep thinking from our Idiot in Chief:
    Trump quote
    “You know, we have to protect Thomas Edison, and we have to protect all of these people that, uh, came up with, originally, the light bulb and the wheel, and all of these things.”
    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-makes-bizarre-statement-about-protecting-the-inventor-of-the-wheel-in-rambling-interview/

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  32. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Sandbox Post by: @the real Robert Cross | 22 January 2020 at 06:44 PM
    ,,,yes Cross,,,Conservos are in full-blown denial. This is not the first time Trump has admitted to obstruction of Congress in real time, and on the international stage no less…
    “We have all the documents”, Trump brags. Implied is the fact that there is something in the docs that prove he is a liar and cheat…but he has refused to release them.
    Does the Trump Sucker contingent disagree???
    An innocent man would gladly provide proof. Trump does not because he knows he is guilty.
    He won’t release his income tax statements either. Why???
    He won’t allow witnesses to testify. Why???
    He did not tell AG Barr to direct DOJ, FBI, NSA to open investigations into Ukraine hacking, Biden illegal activities, Crowdstrike? Why???
    AG Barr is implicated in UkraineGate but has not recused himself. Why???
    You’ve got some ‘splainin’ to do!!!

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    No such thing as “Obstruction of Congress” simply a political disagreement.

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  34. George Rebane Avatar

    Only the judicial branch can tell whether ‘Obstruction of Congress’ or ‘Obstruction of the Executive’ violate any laws and therefore constitute an illegal act. Until then, as ToddJ writes, all such claims by either party are political.

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Because the unhinged are screaming that Hunter or Joe Biden should not be called as witnesses and they have nothing to do anything, that is all the more reason to grill Hunter. After all, Hunter is the crux to the motivation behind the President’s call (the last part of the call), is he not?
    Grill Hunter and Joe, and grill them good.

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  36. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 23 January 2020 at 08:25 AM
    Obstruction of Congress (especially this one) is an unalloyed good!

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  37. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Shiffilis.
    Schiff may have mischaracterized Parnas evidence, documents show
    “The most charitable view of the situation is that [Schiff’s] staff committed the equivalent of
    Congressional malpractice by not looking more than an inch deep to determine the facts before foisting this erroneous information on his colleagues and the American public,” said one senior GOP aide.
    “But given the selective redactions and contextual clues, it seems as though Chairman Schiff sought to portray an innocuous meeting with Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky as an insidious one with the President of Ukraine simply because both of their surnames start with the letter Z.”
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/21/schiff-parnas-trump-evidence-101832
    Translation 1: Schiff mischaracterized Parnas evidence. Strike “may have”.
    Translation 2: How many times does the California congressman who spearheaded the Democrats’ impeachment effort — and is prosecuting the case in the Senate — have to mislead the public before the press stops cutting him so much slack? The press is on Schiff’s team. The press is his public relations arm.

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  38. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,as usual the Roundtable Boys are dancing around the technicalities of phrases like ”’obstruction of Congress”’ in an obvious attempt to avoid answering the underlying ethical and moral issues of right and wrong and self dealing…
    None of you have explained why Trump and the Conservos are not interested answering the questions and laying out the documents before the American public…
    And I think I know why…
    Conservos always imagine they hold the high ground even when faced with overwhelming evidence and official testimony against them…
    If the evidence fits, you must convict!!!

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  39. Walt Avatar

    What “evidence” Dougy? The cops had more against you.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “,,,as usual the Roundtable Boys are dancing around the technicalities of phrases like ”’obstruction of Congress”’ in an obvious attempt to avoid,,,,,,”
    Gee, since Obstruction of Congress is one of the Articles of Impeachment, it is not just a phrase we dance around. An Article of Impeachment is pretty serious, And the answer is always the same: Obstruction of Congress is not a crime like Obstruction of Justice. Obstruction of Justice is a real crime.
    Seeking the Judicial Branch to rule on such high Constitution matters of Separation of Powers is not a crime. Seeking legal counsel is not a crime…in fact the 6th Amendment takes it so seriously, that the defense is always afforded any counsel they choose, but no such protections for the prosecution.
    By seeking the courts to address grievances and disputes is not only proper, it is the method our Founders laid out as the way we should conduct our affairs.
    I suppose under Shiff-Odlaq-Scummer’s reasoning, a man accused of bank robbery is obstructing the police by seeking and obtaining counsel and seeking redress in the courts.

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  41. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 23 January 2020 at 09:55 AM
    But Bill…..Veruca Keachie wants her conviction……and she wants it NOW!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqsy7V0wphI

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  42. George Rebane Avatar

    My, my, my – “the technicalities of phrases like ‘obstruction of Congress’ is an obvious attempt …” This is a juicy example of the Left’s desperation to make something, anything stick from their repertoire of empty and ever-changing allegations dressed to impersonate evidence. (see also Mr Tozer’s 955am)

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well George Trump is on record as supporting the impeachment of Bush for lying us into war in Iraq. Here’s direct quotes comment about Pelosi being Speaker and supporting the impeachment of Buch. Trumpis your guy George so here it is.
    .
    “When she first got in and was named speaker, I met her. And I’m very impressed by her. I think she’s a very impressive person. I like her a lot. But I was surprised that she didn’t do more in terms of Bush and going after Bush. It was almost — it just seemed like she was going to really look to impeach Bush and get him out of office, which personally I think would’ve been a wonderful thing,” Trump told Blitzer in the interview.
    “Impeaching him?” Blitzer asked.
    “Absolutely. For the war. For the war,” said Trump, referring to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. “Well, he lied. He got us into the war with lies, and I mean, look at the trouble Bill Clinton got into with something that was totally unimportant and they tried to impeach him, which was nonsense. And yet Bush got us into this horrible war with lies. By lying. By saying they had weapons of mass destruction. By saying all sorts of things that turned out not to be true.”
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/19/politics/donald-trump-impeachment-nancy-pelosi-george-w-bush/index.html

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  44. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1033am – there is no evidence that Bush2 lied. And Trump has changed his mind about Pelosi 😉
    https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2011/10/lies-and-lying.html

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  45. Walt Avatar

    TDS flairs up as BDS. Don’t recall any Bush impeachment.
    But facts are in play that “O” should be jailed.

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    It was clearly Trumps opinion that Bush lied and should be impeached and he has never refuted that.
    Here’s another one for your consideration from Lindsey Graham stating you don’t have to be convicted of a crime to be impeached and describing his criteria for impeachment.
    “You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role. Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office. ”
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lindsey-graham-crime-impeach/

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What exactly should “O” be jailed for Walt?

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  48. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Also Walt it was your guy Trump that called for the impeachment of Bush not mine. Do you deny that Trump said that?

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  49. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Obama and Biden should be jailed for corruption. Very clearly they are dorrupt. Same for Hillary. Pay to play.

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  50. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,My, my, my – “the technicalities of phrases like ‘obstruction of Congress’ is an obvious attempt …” This is a juicy example of the Left’s desperation to make something, anything stick from their repertoire of empty and ever-changing allegations dressed to impersonate evidence. (see also Mr Tozer’s 955am)
    Posted by: George Rebane | 23 January 2020 at 10:20 AM
    ,,,and,,,as expected, George et al. will not answer the underlying questions such as…Did Trump do anything he should not have?…Why he won’t testify?…why he won’t let his associates testify?…why did he direct DOJ to withhold documents?…and what does Trump mean when he braggs, ”’We hold all the documents”’???

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