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[Anyone willing to offer a guess as to the date on which the Senate will deliver its verdict?  I'll even take your MAB numbers to see who has the most accurate view of when this kabuki performance will end.  gjr]

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619 responses to “Sandbox – 16jan20”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Is it time for a group hug? I am in the mood and indeed a most sensitive guy. Never denied it and I got my Daddies issues and My Feminine side issues all reconciled years ago. Sweet. How about we each tell each other an encouraging word? Some “I appreciate you” back and forth. No? Ok, how about some quotes:
    Insight: “Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” —Eric Hoffer (1902-1983)
    For the record: “One billion people have been lifted out of extreme poverty since Bernie first started to use the phrase ‘race to the bottom’ to describe international trade agreements.” —Matt Welch
    Belly laugh of the week: “In Iowa, the Democrat candidates were downplaying the economy. But come Wednesday, November 4th, just about the only unemployed Americans will be failed Democrat presidential candidates! (Granted, that’s a lot of people.)” —Gary Bauer
    Ouch: “Given the circus in the House, I’m surprised she didn’t use crayons.” —Sen. Ted Cruz on Nancy Pelosi giving out signing pens after signing impeachment articles
    Political theater: “They claim it’s a somber, serious occasion they’re heartbroken over… and then they pass out impeachment-signing pens with special cases. Folks. You can’t make it up.” —Rep. Mark Meadows
    Braying jenny: “On December 18th, the House of Representatives impeached the president of the United States — an impeachment that will last forever.” —House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
    Non compos mentis: “The allegations, for which there is a mountain of evidence, are that the president betrayed his country by trying to extort the [sic] Ukraine by withholding $391 million dollars in military aid that Congress had voted in order to get Ukraine to announce an investigation of a domestic political opponent. That’s the allegation. Any witness who has information about whether that is true or not true is a relevant witness. Anybody, like Hunter Biden, who has no information about any of that is not a relevant witness.” —House Judiciary Committee Chair Jerry Nadler
    Dezinformatsiya: “This impeachment has now set into motion a removal trial. The big question is, what about all of this new evidence emerging of clear wrongdoing? Can the Senate really choose to ignore it?” —CNN’s Chris Cuomo
    Not-so-friendly fire: “I think you called me a liar on national TV.” —Elizabeth Warren to Bernie Sanders after their debate spat
    And last… “All I want is Trump to host a rally during a Dem debate but instead of him doing his normal speech, he watches the debate with the crowd and adds live commentary.” —Caleb Hull

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 143pm – #1 you err Paul, in this case it is the interpretation by the source that is germane, the GAO is not gospel on any interpretation of law as I pointed out; it is their bureaucratic and probably partisan opinion. This is a fine point that your TDS made you miss.
    https://pjmedia.com/trending/the-gao-ruled-obama-broke-the-law-but-no-one-called-for-his-impeachment/
    As a free point of tutelage, going after the source for reporting a point of fact that can be independently verified as the only argument in opposition is both weak and wrong. When Huffpost or Breitbart report that 12″ = 1′, then neither source can or should be disparaged.
    #2 your charge of “Typical George response-go after the source not the content.” is totally unsubstantiated, lame, and petty. I challenge you to prove it.

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  3. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Man o man aren’t those 0 era consent decrees a winner for the citizens now that the cops have been neutered. –
    https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/01/15/philadelphia-leaders-call-for-end-of-violence-as-homicide-rate-already-triple-what-it-was-at-this-time-last-year/
    😉

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Fight behind the gym after school today!! Go get ‘em, Bernie Bros.
    IS WARREN NOW THE NEW HILLARY CLINTON FOR BERNIE BROS?
    The Washington Post reports:
    “An angry split among liberal Democrats broke into the open Wednesday as two prominent presidential candidates exchanged accusations of dishonesty, raising fears among party leaders of a repeat of the internecine bitterness that many Democrats say contributed to President Trump’s victory in 2016.
    The fears are not without a basis. Yesterday, some irate supporters of Sanders circulated a #Never­Warren hashtag. #WarrenIsASnake also began trending…….
    It’s no accident that a “Warren is a snake” theme quickly emerged from the post-debate dustup. Some hard core Sanders supporters already viewed her that way, in part because of the less than straightforward way she intends to take on corporate power.
    Now that the dustup has occurred, Warren has probably solidified herself in the minds of some hard core Sanders supporters as the functional equivalent of Hillary Clinton. They might well be as reluctant to back Warren if she’s the nominee as they were to support Clinton four years ago.“
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/is-warren-now-the-new-hillary-clinton-for-bernie-bros.php
    Sweet.

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  5. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Its really getting fun to watch the war in the socialist dem clown car –
    Bernie Sanders ‘will play dirty,’ wants to ‘Hillarize’ Warren, ex-Vermont governor says
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ex-vermont-governor-bernie-sanders-will-play-dirty
    😉

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  6. Odlaw Avatar
    Odlaw

    ,,,George,,,the Defense Department broke the law, not Obama…apples to oranges…but nice try…
    Obama did not benefit personally,,,it was done for the benefit of an American hostage…
    Is there some kind of double standard at work here???
    “The Department of Defense violated section 8111 of the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2014 when it transferred five individuals detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to the nation of Qatar without providing at least 30-days notice to certain congressional committees,” the GAO explained.”

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  7. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    What a bunch of bullshit @ 357, benefit an American hostage, you mean the traitor who caused the death of Americans. Must be a terrorist cuddling troll.

    Here is a little tutorial for the trollish set –
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/16/nolte-the-china-trade-deal-and-22-other-times-trump-made-fools-of-the-experts/
    😉

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Odlaw | 16 January 2020 at 03:57 PM
    “The Department of Defense violated section 8111 of the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2014 when it transferred five individuals detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to the nation of Qatar without providing at least 30-days notice to certain congressional committees,” the GAO explained.”

    DOESN’T MATTER….RULES ARE RULES……THE LAW WAS BROKEN According to RR’s angriest menopausal avenger!

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  9. Walt Avatar

    LOL!! The GAO say the law was broken.. Never mind the fact “O” did the same thing… Repeatedly.
    Can one Proggy point to just what the law states the penalty is for said law breaking? Go ahead… Give it a try.
    Be sure to give the statute number.🤣

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Gosh, do you know how stupid that Project Veritas Bernie Bro is?
    Yo genius, it was the Dem Convention of 68 when they had tear gas in the streets, not 70 or ‘71. And It was in Chicago, like in The Chicago Seven, duh. And, oh enlightened one, it was not McGovern at the tumultuous affair, it was Hubert Horatio Humphrey Jr…HHH. George Mc Govern was 72, idiot.
    What are they teaching kids these days? Rant over. I feel better. Thanks.
    Exit question: why do all the Antifa young people remind me of the Bros? Those antifa dudes and hot chicks are all in for Bernie with both feet. Where else can they go? Where did Brother Ben go?

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Even never trumper Wallace sees the game –
    “Fox News Sunday” anchor Chris Wallace told Fox News Radio’s “Brian Kilmeade Show” on Thursday that he agreed with host Brian Kilmeade’s criticism of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., for handing out commemorative pens — with her name on them — after she signed a resolution transmitting two articles of impeachment against President Trump to the Senate for trial.
    “That was not a good look for Nancy Pelosi,” Wallace said in response to Kilmeade’s comment blasting the move.
    “I actually think she hurt herself,” Kilmeade said. “And that show yesterday looked so phony, that solemn march while handing out commemorative pens.”
    “I completely agree with that point,” Wallace said in response.
    Video
    PELOSI HANDS OUT SOUVENIR PENS, DEMS SLAMMED FOR GLOATING AS HOUSE DELIVERS TRUMP IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES
    To critics, the tone of the event seemed celebratory — a far cry from the December day when the House voted to impeach Trump. On that occasion, Pelosi wore black and insisted on the House floor it was a “solemn” day. Later, she even cut short two rounds of cheers from Democrats when the articles were adopted.
    Before Wednesday’s signing ceremony, aides set out two small trays containing more than two dozen black pens emblazoned with Pelosi’s signature. She entered the room and sat at a table with the documents and pens before her. House managers and the committee chairmen who had worked on Trump’s impeachment were standing around her. Pelosi picked up each pen, signed a bit, and handed each one to a lawmaker. Occasionally, she smiled.
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/chris-wallace-commemorative-impeachment-pens-not-a-good-look-for-nancy-pelosi
    😉

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  12. Odlaw Avatar
    Odlaw

    ,,,See Paul,,,that is how you trigger them…Dogpile!!!

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  13. Odlaw Avatar
    Odlaw

    ,,,well Oosik,,,sounds like the Conservos missed a opportunity by not launching a 4 year investigation into the DOD,,,think of how many Deep Staters could have been hung!!!

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  14. Orange Man in Walton’s Dome. Avatar
    Orange Man in Walton’s Dome.

    Anger management classes due for Odlaq.. His yoga pants are just too darn tight. Yoga pants are just too darn high!

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  15. o Avatar
    o

    ,,,Orangina,,,Yes I like to wear my yoga pants high to show off my manhood!!!

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  16. Walt Avatar

    Dogpile,, “jon”?? Naaa.. Just answering ALT Left crapola.

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  17. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    You could hear the heads pop he signed it 0
    President Trump acted in the best interests of the American people Thursday when he signed an executive order to bolster and protect the rights of students to pray and discuss God in their schools. The order champions and reinforces the freedom of religion guaranteed to us in the Constitution as one of our most important rights.
    The president appropriately took the action on National Religious Freedom Day. His executive order also ensures that religious entities are not excluded from participating in government-funded programs.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/jim-daly-trump-is-right-to-uphold-religious-freedom-with-new-executive-order
    😉

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  18. Walt Avatar

    Sure thing “O”,, Michelle has a bigger one. The proof is all over the net.

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don
    Do you support religious freedom for Muslims and buddists as well? How about Diests like myself We can celebrate Ben Franklin day

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  20. Odlaw Avatar
    Odlaw

    ,,,Wally,,, LOL!! The GAO say the law was broken.. Never mind the fact “O” did the same thing… Repeatedly.
    …funny, your ilk were just saying the exact same thing in defense of Dear Leader…
    whining on about Obama droned someone so why can’t we???
    #SAD

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  21. Orange Man mucho Bad Hombre Avatar
    Orange Man mucho Bad Hombre

    Stand back, she’s really to blow.
    Odlaw:
    ,,,You are a moron Biker Bill,,,try re-reading my 324pm post again…I did not mention median income anywhere, Idiot!
    Oh Comma Man, I just love it when you get like this.

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  22. Odlaw Avatar
    Odlaw

    ,,,Bessie,,,if someone wants to pray they can do it on their own time…
    Can you get a more scripted pandering to the Religulous types by a scared Trump???

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    They should be afraid, very afraid as its de ja vu all over again for the socialist dems –
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478509-iowa-democrats-view-flawed-front-runners-with-anxiety
    😉

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Still no supporters of Trump as to his innocence of the accusations that led to his impeachment.

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  25. Walt Avatar

    Sure getting lame “jon”,, same crap different post.
    As usual.. it was “OK” when your boy “O” did it. Now what did I say back then? “Don’t bitch when the elected Repub does it… So what do ya’ do?,,,, Bitch…. Called that one….

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  26. Walt Avatar

    Poor Paul.. He’s he’s committed no crimes. How many times have you been put on the spot to name them?? What your answer?? Nothing but crickets.

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  27. Walt Avatar

    Paul. You suffering from the same affliction as your hero Franklin? It causes brain damage don’t ya’ know?

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Are you saying Walt that what Trump is accused of is not a crime or that he didn’t do what he’s accused of? Important distinction. The GAO say what he’s accused of broke the law.

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  29. Walt Avatar

    Answer the question Emery, NAME THE PENALTY. Just like any other law that gets “broke” there is a stated penalty if it’s a “real” crime. Put it this way… NOT IMPEACHABLE..(large text so and old buzzard can see it)

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  30. Walt Avatar

    Your boy “O” broke the many times when he handed out waivers with Obummercare. Same diff Emery.

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  31. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    PaulE: “Still no supporters of Trump as to his innocence of the accusations that led to his impeachment.”
    OK, fine. He’s completely innocent. Change my mind.
    You’re not allowed to cut ‘n paste or to use links. A hard-hitting newsguy should have all of the facts at hand, right?
    lol. Good luck with your assignment.

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  32. Walt Avatar

    HOT OFF THE DIGITIZER!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsSrGKuAVYo
    Swamp Queen’s march of doom.

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Paul. Just include the new bombshells in the articles of impeachment when they send the next batch over. Missed the window of opportunity on the current batch
    You are fretting over it too much. Glad you are on it. I am sure everybody and their mother are all on it as well, leaving no stone unturned. It’s all good. Gotta wait for that great engine of cross examination to get to the truth.
    We mustn’t pull a Punchy and jump to conclusions and look foolish in the aftermath, must we? Didn’t you learn anything in the last 3 years? Just trying to help you from anymore embarrassing episodes. Haste makes waste. Haste bandanas and hasta lasagna, and hasta la vista, baby.
    https://www.facebook.com/TakeBackThisCountry/photos/a.1032125603520777/2640611909338797/?type=3&theater

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  34. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 16 January 2020 at 05:17 PM
    Are you saying Walt that what Trump is accused of is not a crime or that he didn’t do what he’s accused of? Important distinction. The GAO say what he’s accused of broke the law.

    Hey Walt……Matlock’s here!

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  35. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The GAO say what he’s accused of broke the law.
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 16 January 2020 at 05:01 PM
    Time to put the bottle down or are you sharing the device at the bar again?? The world wonders. LOL
    😉

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  36. Walt Avatar

    Emery is working real hard to repeal the 6TH Amendment.
    Emery likes the idea of guilty till proven innocent.
    Since he and his Proggy friends don’t have a lick of evidence that shows Trump Guilty of a crime. Real OR imagined.

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Don do you support Muslims and Buddhists the same freedoms to practice their religion in public schools as Christians, according to Trumps new dictum you champion in your 4:41 ?

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  38. Walt Avatar

    OK I will break it to Emery.. There IS NO PENALTY for breaking your beloved “law”. Find it and READ it Emery.(like I did)
    It’s a procedural “law”. Not a criminal, or civil law.
    In other words,, There is no there, there.

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    So Don……Pinball Wizard!

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  40. Walt Avatar

    Really Emery? 🤣🤣🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🍼🍼 Change the subject when you got beat like a redheaded stepchild…. With freckles.
    I don’t recall Ben Franklin being that cowardly.

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  41. Walt Avatar

    OK,, Which Proggy believes Trump will be found guilty and removed?? How has the furry ones to step up and say so?

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    It’s Logan Act time wrapped up with 17 Intel agencies agreeing. Yes, indeed, the NYT and Wa Compost and the Huff Farting Post all reported it and I do not deny they reported it. What I deny is….ah, Nevermind.
    The Obama Administration did indeed wiretap Trump Tower and sent a spy in. Just read the Post and NYT, Jan and mostly March, 2017. It’s all there. And that big portrait of Bubba with a blue dress on they found in Epstein’s mansion did not hang itself. Change my mind.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXy7qYAKrfc

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  43. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    It’s Logan Act time wrapped up with 17 Intel agencies agreeing. Yes, indeed, the NYT and Wa Compost and the Huff Farting Post all reported it and I do not deny they reported it. What I deny is….ah, Nevermind.
    The Obama Administration did indeed wiretap Trump Tower and sent a spy in. Just read the Post and NYT, Jan and mostly March, 2017. It’s all there. And that big portrait of Bubba with a blue dress on they found in Epstein’s mansion did not hang itself. Change my mind.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXy7qYAKrfc

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  44. George Rebane Avatar

    re PaulE 450pm – like a wind-up doll that keeps repeating ad nauseum, here we have a liberal who cannot tell the difference between “accusations” (which to liberals is evidence) and impeachable acts. These same people have no understanding between the congressional impeachment process – inherently political – and the formal proceedings of a court of law. They are irredeemably ignorant (or cynically evil) about the whole matter. So we circle the same barn endlessly.

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  45. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    NEWS FLASH! The leader of the congressional anti semite-jihadi caucus omar is under active criminal investigation by the FBI and ICE it was reported tonight-
    The charges include –
    Perjury
    Immigration Fraud
    Tax Fraud
    Student Loan Fraud
    Bigamy
    Well that’s one ‘refugee’ who took full advantage of every benefit she was not entitled to.
    😉

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  46. Walt Avatar

    Gotta love the fact when it’s pointed out how “O” “broke the law” before the ink was dry from the 20 pens he signed it with,
    it’s ignored as if it never happened. “NOPE, WE don’t want to hear that… That was different”
    The same “law” that Emery is whining over applied to Obamacare.

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So George you contend that Trump is mot accused of anything that of breaks the law. Therefore in your view even if he did what he’s accused of it is not impeachable. Is that a fair summary?

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  48. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    FEEL GOOD STORIES FOR TODAY
    Today’s email brings this hysterical warning from the good folks at The Nation:
    Trump’s attacks on public radio are sickening. Trump’s new budget will literally END funding for Public Radio!
    Public Radio is SO important for millions of Americans. It provides accurate journalism and high-quality educational programming. Trump knows these cuts mean less educational programming for rural Americans, but he doesn’t care.
    Could there be anything more cheering and cockle-warming than hearing that the Federal government might actually cut funding for NPR? (Though I seriously doubt that Trump’s budget proposal will literally END funding.) And can we do the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities next, please?
    Next, Business Insider tells us that “Ronald and Nancy Reagan Hosted the Best White House Parties of All Time.” Surely this approaches a Jeffersonian self-evident truth? Seriously, how can you hope to beat this:
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/feel-good-stories-for-today.php
    New phrase of the day. cockle-warming.
    Use in a sentence:
    Could there be anything more cheering and cockle-warming than hearing that the Federal government might actually cut funding for NPR? (Though I seriously doubt that Trump’s budget proposal will literally END funding.)
    Biker Bill sez Come and get Papa Bear. Came on!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2vNNqbl5Us

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  49. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Warren Rejects Peace Pipe Offered By Sanders
    But Warren slapped the peace pipe out of his hands and crossed her arms, a sign of rejection in her culture. “No peace pipe. You have angered the Great Spirit. Leave at once, paleface.” A crestfallen Sanders backed away slowly to go ask his grandkids about eBay’s return policy.
    https://babylonbee.com/news/warren-rejects-peace-pipe-offered-by-sanders
    Cockle warming.

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