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[Anyone willing to offer a guess as to the date on which the Senate will deliver its verdict?  I'll even take your MAB numbers to see who has the most accurate view of when this kabuki performance will end.  gjr]

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619 responses to “Sandbox – 16jan20”

  1. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 21 January 2020 at 12:18 PM

    Odlaw haz a sad. President gunna keep being president after democrat fiasco. Big fun!

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    do you believe Trump is trustworthy and has ethical Nd moral standing?

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Daily Quotes
    Insight: “An armed society is a polite society.” —Robert A. Heinlein (1907-1988)
    Observations: “One of the amazing things in America is there are a group of people known for being armed and what they’re mainly feared for is that they vote.” —Frank J. Fleming
    Leftmedia circling the wagons: “Reporter: Trump rhetoric is the reason conservatives no longer trust the media. Conservatives: Actually, no. We have long distrusted the media. Trump just gave voice to it. Reporter: See, look how effective Trump’s attacks have been. They don’t even realize it’s Trump’s fault.” —Erick Erickson
    For the record: “Something is missing from the charges against Trump: An impeachable offense.” —Andrew McCarthy
    By “gifted storyteller” it means “liar”: “Senator Warren is a gifted storyteller.” —New York Times endorsement of Elizabeth Warren
    Non compos mentis: “The Democratic Party is not a left party; the Democratic Party is a center, or center-conservative party.” —Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    Courting the coveted DUI vote: “I don’t count drunk driving as a felony.” —Joe Biden
    Nothing to see here… “The only purpose in putting [Hunter Biden] on their list is they wish to trade material witnesses, like Mr. Bolton and Mulvaney and others, for immaterial ones that will allow them to continue to attack a political opponent. That’s an illegitimate abuse of the trial.” —House Impeachment Manager Adam Schiff
    Village idiots: “Bernie respects us enough to tell the truth, the hard truth: We have a 10- to 12-year window to radically transform our energy systems, or climate change, predatory capitalism, and endless war economies will rob us of the right to any future at all.” —actor John Cusack
    And last… “I’m a gun rights supporter but I’m frankly embarrassed by the protestors in Virginia [yesterday]. It’s pretty rude to be so peaceful after the media were rooting for violence. Not fair to make them look stupid like that.” —Matt Walsh

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  4. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: fish | 21 January 2020 at 12:23 PM
    ,,,Still no answer Crustacean???

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  5. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 January 2020 at 12:24 PM
    ,,,More unattributed plagerism Bill?

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  6. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 21 January 2020 at 12:22 PM
    Its not Trumps responsibility to help that inept pack of democrat morons make their case……they folded back in the house and didn’t call Bolton or Mulvany and they don’t make rules in the Senate so they don’t get to call them now unless Cocaine Mitch is feeling charitable.

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  7. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,oh look Bill tried to make himself look like he was literate but…
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/68034-tuesday-short-cuts-2020-01-21

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 21 January 2020 at 12:27 PM
    ………plagerism?

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  9. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: fish | 21 January 2020 at 12:28 PM
    Total crock of shit fish…
    The American people have a right to know what these government officials know…about the drug deal…
    You cannot bring yourself to man up and admit your hero is a chickenshit and liar…but we knew that…

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  10. rcroww Avatar
    rcroww

    odlaw 12:22 — ,and of course the Crustacean and his ilk refuse to answer why Trump is hiding key witnesses…
    that is because they don’t want to really know the truth nor admit their undying admiration for an immoral mobster, as it would taint their own perception of themselves. they prefer to live in an alternate reality where they are on the side of truth, justice, and the American way and any one who does not agree is a socialist commie rat just like in 1952, which about when they stopped learning.

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  11. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: fish | 21 January 2020 at 12:32 PM
    Nice Pelline imitation

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  12. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 21 January 2020 at 12:35 PM
    Total crock of shit fish…
    The American people have a right to know what these government officials know…about the drug deal…

    Why didn’t Schiff have them deposed and then testify dugsKKKi?

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Witnesses? Really want to go there Proggys?
    Nadless would rather have NO witnesses than allow Hunter Biden
    to be questioned as a witness.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nadler-says-dems-unwilling-to-negotiate-hunter-biden-testimony-in-exchange-for-other-witnesses
    So just who has something to hide?

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  14. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: rcroww | 21 January 2020 at 12:37 PM
    Boys, boys, girls (sorry fake Roberta)……you’re getting frantic!

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  15. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 21 January 2020 at 12:40 PM
    Nadless…..?

    I like it!

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Fish @ 12;39 pm
    “Why didn’t Schiff have them deposed and then testify dugsKKKi?”
    Ah, the question not answered. Why, why why? Circle the barn time.
    When you stop and think about it, Schiffilis is the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. Let that sink in. As Chairman of the Intel Committee, he has powers other members of Congress do not have. He has subpoena power. Let that sink in. Nancy does not have that power and at this point she is just a member of the House, nothing more, nothing less. One vote.
    Why did Schiffilis not subpoena John Bolton? John said he never received one. Why, why, why?
    The oblivious answer is Schiffilis, the self-proclaimed grand jury’s prosecutor of the Impeachment Articles , did NOT submit a good case. Let too many gapping gaps,. He, like Nadler, wanted others in another body to do the work for him which he miserably failed to do. Hearsay don’t cut it,
    innuendo can only carry you so far.
    Reminds me of when Mueller indicted the Russian trolls farm(s). Presented the evidence to the court and, lo and behold, one firm showed up and said “let’s rumble”. The prosecution panicked, asked for more time, and they were not ready, lol. Hey, if you make an indictment, it’s the prosecutor’s job to be prepared to go to trial, especially after filing charges. But, they were not prepared, lol. They had not even translated the evidence, most were comments on posts not seen in the USA and not in English, roflmao. The value was the charge, not the substance.
    A few days ago Nadler was declaring from his stage that Hunter Biden had no value as a witness in the case and must not be called as a witness. Forbidden. I thought, “Too bad, Numbnuts, you have no say in the matter. You had your chance and blew it. No say. Nancy has no say. They just can’t get it through their alcohol soaked noggins that have no say no more. They just are not that important. All they have is opinions, from the outside looking in.
    Wanna blame. Blame those who handed over an empty case with so many holes you can drive a Mac truck through it.

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  17. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: Walt | 21 January 2020 at 12:40 PM
    ,,, Don’t play dumb Walt,,,oh too late!!!
    Biden is not part of the impeachment. That was just another on of Trump’s personal obsessions with all things Obama…
    Wally,,, did you know that if it was a real investigation an official government agency like the FBI would have been contacted by Trump instead of Bat Boy Rudy.
    Is the roundtable really THAT dense as to ignore the fact that Trump was using his personal attorney who was using now indicted criminals to do his dirty work instead of the FBI???

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  18. rcroww Avatar
    rcroww

    and the lies begin: WH legal beagle Pat Cipollone lied when he restated the absurd republican talking point that committee republicans were not allowed in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, or “SCIF” where the testimony was given.
    TRUTH — all 48 republicans from the three committees not only were allowed but were given equal time for questioning.

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  19. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 21 January 2020 at 01:35 PM
    Is the roundtable really THAT dense as to ignore the fact that Trump was using his personal attorney who was using now indicted criminals to do his dirty work instead of the FBI???

    Good call dugsKKKi!…….Trump should have done it like O’Dummy and had the FBI do his dirty work. He could have stuck the taxpayers that way!

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  20. George Rebane Avatar

    The proposition that “Biden is not part the impeachment” is beyond butt stupid. One of the two lame articles of impeachment the Dems could cobble together hangs ONLY on the involvement of the Bidens and their history (and alleged corruption) with Ukrainian oligarchs. If you take out Trumps legitimate desire to have the Bidens’ Ukrainian involvement investigated, then that article disappears. The Dems cannot risk light being shined on the ‘Biden dealings’ with Ukraine for which we already have (video) evidence of the former VP’s machinations with the Ukrainian government. Bring on the witnesses.
    rcroww 135pm – a relevant and powerful point there. Can you point to some backup for that assertion?

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  21. Walt Avatar

    But Dougy!!! This is ALL about that phone call. The ONE that got the impeachment going in the first place. Hunter is at the center of your Proggy universe. The proverbial black hole.
    It’s all about your corrupt son of a bitch. Ukraine corruption at the core.
    Can’t have Hunder bring Daddy down.(who else will help support the latest bastard of the family? Hunter don’t(ya. right) have the money.)

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  22. Walt Avatar

    Score 1! for team Trump.
    LIBS ass sore…
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7912653/Donald-Trumps-Senate-trial-begins-senators-war-rules.html
    “Democrats lost the first round in President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial when the Senate voted down an attempt by Chuck Schumer to subpoena a cache of documents from the White House regarding the Ukraine.”

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  23. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: George Rebane | 21 January 2020 at 01:58 PM
    ”’If you take out Trumps legitimate desire to have the Bidens’ Ukrainian involvement investigated”’
    ,,,Wrong George,,,it was not a ”’legitimate”’ investigation. It was undertaken a private matter between Trump and Giuliani, Trump’s personal attorney…
    What don’t you understand about the difference between ”’private”’ and ”’official”’ investigations???

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  24. Walt Avatar

    That’s what you get for listening to fake news Dougy.
    It’s ALL “official”.

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  25. odla Avatar
    odla

    Posted by: Walt | 21 January 2020 at 02:23 PM
    ,,,Wrong Wally,,,
    The actual score is 1 for team Trump…and a big fat zero for the American public…
    Trump continues to chickenshit out and hide documents and witnesses from the public…

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odla | 21 January 2020 at 02:31 PM
    Trump continues to chickenshit out and hide documents and witnesses from the public…

    Wahhhh……sniffle…..whaha..whaha, whaha…….! Your salty ham flavored tears……..mmmmm…..delicious!

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  27. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: Walt | 21 January 2020 at 02:29 PM
    Beyond butt stupid Wally,,,Parnas is a Trump government official? What agency was he working for…Is Rudy working for the SEC? The FBI? CIA? Let’s see his pay stubs…
    Why is Trump hiding documents? Why is Trump hiding witnesses? Nancy Pelosi stated publicly that Trump was welcome to come in to testify… She might have even tweeted the invite. And as Trump says Twitter is now the official communications arm of the Trump administration… We know Nunes nose is a permanently stained dirty orange-brown color…he is a known liar…
    …but you said testifying was a known perjury trap…but you would only say that about someone who you know is guilty…

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    odlaW 227pm – You must have missed the telcon between Trump and the Ukrainian president Zelensky that gave second wind to the Dems’ witch hunt after Mueller failed to deliver on Russia.

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  29. Walt Avatar

    Kick and whine Dougy!!
    Schitt for brains is acting out too.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/21/schiff-trump-guilty-if-senate-rejects-democrats-demand-for-new-witnesses-evidence/
    Insult the Senate.. That will really score some points.
    Oh.. Something called the 6TH Amendment… Read up on that.

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Odlac
    Go to your whine cave.

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  31. Walt Avatar

    Besides. Trump and the W.H. have released thousands of documents. At some point one will say “ENOUGH!!🖕 YOU! SEE you in COURT!!” and here we are. YOU and YOURS still have nothing.

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  32. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 2:44 pm
    Trump guilty of exposing the lying Schiffilis & Co for what they are.
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/442017982919984/permalink/857695408018904/

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  33. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,LOL,,,here are some cute pics of Parnas place saver next to Trump, photos of the dinner guest Don Jr. …but Donald Trump and Devin Nunes don’t know Parnas…
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/politics/lev-parnas-additional-materials/index.html

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  34. Walt Avatar

    No Dougy, If I wanted to see CNN, I would get trapped in an airport.

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  35. oldaw Avatar
    oldaw

    Posted by: Walt | 21 January 2020 at 02:58 PM
    ,,,I know Wally,,,you are afraid of the truth…

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  36. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Rudy said he was broken-hearted about Parnass. As far as pics? People sidle up t important folks for a pic all the time. And there was no Parnass in the chair in that picture. You cannot indict on such flimsy crap. But keep trying your masters are in the Senate yapping their lies as I write this.

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  37. Walt Avatar

    You wouldn’t know truth if it bit you in the ass Dougy.
    Proggys like you don’t know the meaning of the word.
    “Truth” is winning in the Senate. “Truth” is Trump getting cleared by the Senate.
    As for “truth”, How bout that Hunter Biden? You sure don’t want his “truth” seeing the light of day.

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  38. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,Poor Todd at 310p and Fearful Wally at 258p…
    Todd…your excuse is the same exact BS that Trump and Nunes have been trying to push. Both are known liars…
    There is a link to the letter at the bottom,,,fraidy cat Wally…you can click it without wearing your garlic CNN repellent necklace…although I am sure you think you look cute wearing it….
    ,,,Among the documents is a letter that Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani sent to Ukraine’s newly inaugurated president, Volodymyr Zelensky, in May.
    Dated May 10, the letter showed the former New York mayor telling Zelensky he wanted to meet in person on May 13 and May 14.
    “Just to be precise, I represent him as a private citizen, not as President of the United States,” Giuliani wrote. “This is quite common under American law because the duties and privileges of a President and a private citizen are not the same.”
    https://www.businessinsider.com/new-rudy-giuliani-letter-destroys-trump-defense-ukraine-impeachment-2020-1

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  39. Walt Avatar

    Imagine that. Dougy brings up more fake news.
    Run that up to D.C. Dougy.. Tell them what you have.
    So you have some Proggy’s opinion. BFD.

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  40. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,The Liar in Chief does it again…
    “I’m pleased to inform you: The American people should be extremely grateful and happy no Americans were harmed in last night’s attack by the Iranian regime.”
    Well, what do you know…. more and more service members were injured than the liar admitted…
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2020/01/21/more-us-troops-leave-iraq-medical-treatment-after-iranian-missile-attack-pentagon-says/

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  41. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: Walt | 21 January 2020 at 03:28 PM
    Still afraid to read it???…sounds like a typical Trump lemming…still waiting for further instructions from Daily Caller, Fox, Breitbart???

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  42. Walt Avatar

    Chuck E. “Cheesey” Schumer gets shot down again. It’s going to be a rough night.

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  43. Walt Avatar

    This isn’t the boarding lounge at SFO Dougy.
    See what getting lied to by Leftist news got you?
    All buttsore.

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  44. Walt Avatar

    Desperation is setting in early.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/21/adam-schiff-tells-senate-alan-dershowitz-not-a-reputable-constitutional-law-expert/
    “House impeachment manager Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) tried to dismiss Harvard Law School professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz as not a “reputable constitutional law expert.”
    Schiff did not respond directly to the White House argument that “abuse of power” was not an impeachable offense according to the U.S. Constitution. Instead, he targeted Dershowitz, whom he said was responsible for that argument.”
    Schitt for brains is entering “beyond” bullshit territory.

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  45. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    odlaw | 21 January 2020 at 03:20 PM
    But now we know Parnass is a liar. He said Nunes was in Vienna last year when the facts are he wasn’t. And there are many more. He is trying to do a Michael Cohen but it will fail. I have to say though you sure think you can spot liars. Look in the mirror.

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  46. Walt Avatar

    Where did “truthful” Dougy go?
    Go some “truth” for you to support.
    https://www.breitbart.com/podcast/2020/01/21/joe-biden-endorses-students-smearing-virginia-2a-supporters-as-white-supremacists/
    “Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden responded to the thousands of diverse Virginia Second Amendment supporters by endorsing the view of 13 activists labeling Virginia attendees “white supremacists.”

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  47. bobette cross Avatar
    bobette cross

    According to republican propaganda they wanted a trial ‘just like Clinton’s’…according to history the vote to include additional documents and testimony was 100-0 in favor of more disclosure. Fast forward to now. No more documents no more testimony tabled along party lines. This is a kangaroo court of trumplicans that will let their fearless and hair impaired leader (like a lot of republican congressman with really bad toupees) slide, no questions asked, hear no evil, speak no evil, say no evil…. How can anyone who supports this partisan charade of a trial call themselves a patriot? and it is not the charges that are the charade, it is clearly the coverup. Lets see… like Clinton’s trial… Clinton lied about getting a blowjob.. trump lies about everything including trying to rig an election in his favor.. wasn’t trump who said the elections were rigged…with a shit-eating grin that said “yeah but for me not against me”?

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  48. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Vent much @418? Just as fair as the congressional ‘investigation’ before a vote! LOL
    😉

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  49. Walt Avatar

    It’s OK Babs… Paybacks a bitch. Just not quite the kangaroo court like the House had.
    But do explain how Trump rigged the election. Forget “O” had the Russians on his side working for Hillary?

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  50. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Don Bessee | 21 January 2020 at 04:28 PM
    Vent much @418? Just as fair as the congressional ‘investigation’ before a vote! LOL
    😉

    Roberta is the “Annie Wilkes” of Rebanes Ruminations.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO20qU-VwgA

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