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Sandbox – 11jan20

11 January 2020

[Many apologies for letting the last sandbox get a little soggy. So many issues, so little time. gjr]

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453 responses to “Sandbox – 11jan20”

Odlaw

15 January 2020

,,,fish,,,was it this one from Donny Jr.???
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7CTgnLF57a/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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fish

15 January 2020

Posted by: Fatlaw | 15 January 2020 at 09:25 AM

Fatlaw….baby……check Scenes original post if you want to see it.

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Walt

15 January 2020

I’m sure the queen of the DAMNED will still believe losing the House will be well worth impeaching Trump.
Trump stays President, she will be back in the loser’s lounge.
After that humiliation, will most likely “retire” from the Senate(in disgrace) and back to the smell of human waste back in Frisco. A fitting end….

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Don Bessee

15 January 2020

The troll @853 is either just bad at deflection or really does not understand what median income is.
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George Rebane

15 January 2020

@853am – For our leftists innumeracy is always an enduring curse. And blindly following their socialist demogauges doubles the deficit.
“The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported a median personal income of $865 weekly for all full-time workers in 2017. The U.S Bureau of the Census has the annual median personal income at $31,099 in 2016. Real per-capita disposable income was $45,646 as of October, 2019.”
Before the full impact of Trump’s economic surge, this computed to more than $21.60/hr. Even under Obama’s anemic recovery the median wage came to $15.55/hr. And considering “real per-capita disposable (after tax) income” this is now effectively more than $22.80/hr for every worker who can fog a mirror. That is why I point out that the real and impactive Big Lies come from Democrats, especially from their leading lights like Bernie Sanders.

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Bill Tozer

15 January 2020

A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY” REVISITED
“Of course, that’s not how Obama administration Secretary of State John Kerry puts it. We have the spectacle of John Kerry defending Obama’s policy with an explanation like this one last week reported by the Washington Free Beacon: “Kerry on $1.7 Billion Payment to Iran: ‘We Gave Them a Little Bit of Money’”
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/a-little-bit-of-money-revisited.php

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fish

15 January 2020

Posted by: Don Bessee | 15 January 2020 at 10:01 AM
The troll @853 is either just bad at deflection or really does not understand what median income is.
Whoa, whoa, whoa Don…….knowing the quality of Georges Trolls it could well be both!

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Bill Tozer

15 January 2020

One man’s opinion:
Why the European Union just admitted the Iran deal is dead.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-the-european-union-just-admitted-the-iran-deal-is-dead

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Bill Tozer

15 January 2020

The squabble continues:
“The Warren campaign reportedly responded with a fundraising email stating that the candidate was disappointed that Sanders had called her every single day since 2016 to say that women should never be allowed in public without a male escort but that she didn’t want to discuss the matter further and risk being divisive.”
https://politics.theonion.com/sanders-campaign-doubles-down-with-new-ad-warning-ameri-1841000767
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Quotes
For the record: “I think what the administration did in the Soleimani case is absolutely correct. I think it’s the right thing to do.” —Obama National Security Advisor Jim Jones
Machinations: “Senators are required to be present for the duration of an impeachment trial. So by holding on to the impeachment articles for so long, Speaker Pelosi is rigging the Iowa caucuses for Biden. Once again, the Democrat Party establishment is trying to sideline Bernie Sanders.” —House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy
Authenticity doesn’t equal suitability: “Bernie is the only person on that [debate] stage who believes what he’s saying. The only problem is what he’s saying is horrifying.” —David Harsanyi
Observations: “Sorry to be radical, but maybe the real problem is women thinking being a mom is an inconvenience to their ambitions.” —Allie Beth Stuckey
Friendly fire: “[Elizabeth Warren] had breakout moments [last night], but did anyone on that stage really seem ready to take on Trump in a debate? If we want a Democrat to win the White House (which I certainly do) we need our candidates to start showing up a lot stronger.” —Van Jones
Braying jackass: “I think if there were no tensions [with Iran], if there was no escalation recently in the region, those Canadians would be right now home with their families. This is something that happens when you have conflict and war. Innocents bear the brunt of it and it is a reminder why all of us need to work so hard on de-escalation, moving forward to reduce tensions and find a pathway that doesn’t involve further conflict and killing.” —Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
Non compos mentis: “I was in Tehran when they were chanting ‘Death to America’ once. I was at a rally, the people couldn’t have been more friendly to me personally as an American. It sort of felt like a thing and a trope as opposed to anything that was actually seriously meant and considered.” —CNN’s Erin Burnett
What could possibly go wrong? “The Department of Education already has broad legal authority to cancel student debt, and we can’t afford to wait for Congress to act. So I will start to use existing laws on day one of my presidency to implement my student loan debt cancellation plan that offers relief to 42 million Americans.” —Sen. Elizabeth Warren
And last… “Warren supporters are applying the ‘believe women’ slogan to this dispute between her and Sanders. They’re literally claiming that we should believe women in EVERY situation, not just with sexual assault. Women never lie about anything, they say. Insane. Just insane.” —Matt Walsh
Hmmm. If men are pigs and women are equal to men, what does that make women? The squabble continues.

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Paul Emery

15 January 2020

George
When I became a professional musician in the mid 60’s average pay for full time musicians playing 5 nights a week was $300 a week. That’s when you could rent a modest apartment for $100 a month, if you can find anything. Now equivilant housing costs $1000 a month, that’s a 10 times increase. If musicians earnings would have kept up they would now be making $12,000 a month.
Just a perspective from my experience. I’m sure other occupations have near the same numbers.

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Robert Cross

15 January 2020

in the ‘yet another lie for you boys to ignore’ category — trumpler yesterday said that “I was the person who saved Pre-Existing Conditions in your healthcare.” which earned him his newest ‘pants on fire’ rating, adding to the more than 120 previous ‘pants on fire’ awards he has received. Liar liar pants of fire. Poliltico suggests that people stop tracking Trump’s statements and assume that every word he speaks is a lie.
Just another day in your alternate reality were lies are truth and trumpler is a god.

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Walt

15 January 2020

There is a judge that needs to have a few take up residence in his hometown. How fast will he get the tar and feather treatment?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-blocks-trump-order-allowing-states-local-officials-to-opt-out-of-taking-refugees

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Walt

15 January 2020

Oh.. Trump told a FIB?? So what? You LIBS have been lying all damned day. Yet no bitch from you about that.

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Don Bessee

15 January 2020

@1101 – Your problem has more to do with generational change and iTunes.

There is a reason they call it the Clinton news network!
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/01/15/nolte-bernie-sanders-supporters-get-a-taste-of-cnns-shameless-lying/
😉

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scenes

15 January 2020

PaulE: “When I became a professional musician in the mid 60’s average pay for full time musicians playing 5 nights a week was $300 a week.”
Average wage in 1965 was $5812 per year according to a statistical abstract of the United States.
Average Paul-level professional musician made $15,600 per year evidently.
Sure thing.

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fish

15 January 2020

Posted by: Roberta Cross | 15 January 2020 at 11:08 AM
Just another day in your alternate reality were lies are truth and trumpler is a god.
Heh heh…..you sed trumpler…..dats a funny jok!

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fish

15 January 2020

C’mon scenes……Punch and Gaffemaster Joe………..just a couple of dudes tryin to make ends meet!

SPENDTHRIFT:

Biden Says He Couldn’t Afford Childcare Making $42K in 1973 (or $250K, Adjusted for Inflation).

Of course I’m sure Hunter was quite the handful……knocking up baby-sitters left and right!
https://freebeacon.com/politics/biden-says-he-couldnt-afford-childcare-making-42k-in-1973-or-250k-adjusted-for-inflation/

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Odlaw

15 January 2020

Posted by: George Rebane | 15 January 2020 at 10:22 AM
Big Whoop …$1.20 an hour raise??? That will pay for my 6 pack of Bud every day but doesn’t sound very MAGA amazing to me… might even pay for a pack of smokes if I go to cheaper beer…
https://www.totalwine.com/beer/lager/american-style-lager/rainier-lager/p/122309122-2?glia=true&s=1101&pid=cpc:Shopping+US+CALI+ENG+SPART:::google:&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI74m7j7CG5wIVlRx9Ch3T_w83EAYYASABEgKe0PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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Odlaw

15 January 2020

,,,Is this what DimmerMan and George and Bernie were referring to???
”’Characteristics of minimum wage workers, 2018
In 2018, 81.9 million workers age 16 and older in the United States
were paid at hourly rates, representing 58.5 percent of all wage and
salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 434,000 workers earned
exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About
1.3 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 1.7
million workers with wages at or below federal minimum made up
2.1 percent of all hourly paid workers.”’
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2018/pdf/home.pdf

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Paul Emery

15 January 2020

Those were the numbers Scenes. I know, I was there. What is your point?

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Paul Emery

15 January 2020

One reason was we had a functional union in those days. Not the case today

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Don Bessee

15 January 2020

Trolls trying to baffle with bs but it does not change the median income. LOL
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scenes

15 January 2020

“What is your point?”
That you are exaggerating.
I’ll be happy to look at your mid 1960’s tax return. Put it up on an image hosting site.

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Odlaw

15 January 2020

,,,Learn to read DimmerMan,,,
Where in your BS quote taken out of context does Bernie refer to ”’median income”’???
”’Senator Bernie Sanders falsely claimed in his closing remarks in the Democratic debate that half of the country was earning just $9 to $10 an hour.”’
,,,ROTFLOL

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Odlaw

15 January 2020

,,,OH DEAR!!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/15/four-big-takeaways-explosive-lev-parnas-documents/?utm_campaign=post_most&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=Newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

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Paul Emery

15 January 2020

I’ll put up my tax returns if Trump puts up his scenes. You seem to have no problem with Trump refusing to release his returns?

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Odlaw

15 January 2020

,,,in case you have read your free limit at WP,,,
One of the new documents reinforces this point. It’s a handwritten note by Parnas, telling himself to “get” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “to announce that the Biden case will be investigated.”
The latest Trump impeachment updates
That shows Parnas working to carry out Giuliani’s plot to pressure Zelensky to validate the Trump/Giuliani narrative of corruption designed to smear Joe Biden, a narrative that is entirely fabricated.

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Walt

15 January 2020

OH!!! Emery will put up his 1040EZ That should be impressive.
Does the stash box of old receipts come with it? We really need to see the medications you filed for deductions on. Those should be real telling.

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fish

15 January 2020

That shows Parnas working to carry out Giuliani’s plot to pressure Zelensky to validate the Trump/Giuliani narrative of corruption designed to smear Joe Biden, a narrative that is entirely fabricated.
…..yawn
Oh comma man……you are a superhero.

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Don Bessee

15 January 2020

Oh how special, the chi coms are parroting the socialist dem clown car now –
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/01/14/hayward-chinese-media-finds-global-trend-toward-state-sovereignty-alarming/
😉

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Walt

15 January 2020

Dougy complains Trump fibbed…
I raise you two compulsive liars. One lies,, the other swears to it.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/15/cnn-aims-sink-bernie-sanders-favor-documented-fabricator-elizabeth-warren/

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Paul Emery

15 January 2020

More details about our Narcissist in Chief
Rucker and Leonnig reveal in their book that Trump toyed with the idea of awarding himself the Medal of Freedom.
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/15/796128983/latest-retelling-of-trumps-term-smacks-of-a-prosecutor-s-courtroom-summation

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Walt

15 January 2020

Sure Emery, Subsidized LIB radio.All that needs to be known.
It’s a know fact LIBS lie. And you lap it up like a stray cat.

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fish

15 January 2020

I’ll put up my tax returns if Trump puts up his scenes.
What are you afraid of Punch……you shouldn’t be worried unless you have something to hide! Do you have something to hide? What is it? Why won’t you tell us? Why are you being so secretive? Emoluments clause! I’m getting popcorn! Bonking a Porn Star! You seem to have no problem with Emery refusing to release his returns? I could rent an apartment for $100 back in the hazy weed filled daze! All for me I’m doing Gilbert and Sullivan this weekend! I’ll take the alphabet! What about the “Cruel Shoes”? Who’s your daddy? My hair grows sir….what about you, Paint your bald spot?…..sick! I’m voting for Walt because he’s a danger to the country and the planet! Green libertarians who knew! What about it George should he be able to profit? What about the deficit? I didn’t vote for Obama the second time! Why? Why? Why?
#oscarssowhite

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Don Bessee

15 January 2020

BAM! Its still the economy stupid’s! Winning 3 ways – USMCA to pass the senate this week, China deal signed today. DOW 29k+ (cue closing bell gong).
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scenes

15 January 2020

DonB: “Trolls trying to baffle with bs but it does not change the median income. LOL”
Well, I can certainly see why a person would resent going in the Air Force when you had to give up a Brigadier General’s wages
Don’t get me wrong, my gut tells me that there were non-celebrity musicians doing that well, it’s just that they were racking up a lot of overtime moving between studios in LA.
In any case, enough of that. We have to allow both Paul and the Prez to wax eloquent about wondrous times past. It’s a privilege of age.

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fish

15 January 2020

From Instapundit!
Anatomy of a Cancel Culture Smear: Vince Vaughn Edition.

We’re told the actor once supported Libertarian Ron Paul and helped conservative talker Glenn Beck produce a documentary feature.
The horror, the horror.
Worst of all? Vaughn supports training and arming school teachers so kids aren’t sitting ducks during a school shooting.
Most controversially, he came out as vehemently opposed to gun control in a 2015 interview for British GQ, going so far as to call for firearms to be allowed in schools: “You think the politicians that run my country and your country don’t have guns in the schools their kids go to? They do. And we should be allowed the same rights.” Shaking Donald Trump’s hand is a pretty modest entry on his list of most liberally objectionable acts.
Next, The Guardian is aghast that a whiff of conservatism is still permitted in La La Land. The article cites the Oscar-nominated “Hacksaw Ridge,” directed by Mel Gibson, as an example of this curse.
“[It’s] a reminder, rather like the industry’s enduring celebration of Clint Eastwood, that Hollywood’s quiet conservative contingent can still make its presence felt.
If only that sliver of thought could be banned entirely.

I had no idea what Vaughn’s politics were when I came across this Facebook item by Colby Smith yesterday morning:

(Reposted with permission.)
When I was in Iraq, in 2005, I was stationed in an extremely dangerous area. At the time, the most hostile combat area in the world. We lost a lot of good men and our base was mortared or shot at almost daily. Leaving the wire was worse in terms of violence.
I say all of this because no one stopped at any of the FOBs under 108th Armor’s control.
No one.
We heard that comedians, actors/actresses, cheerleaders and musicians were visiting the troops in Baghdad, or in Taji, or in Tallil, but they’d never stop in Mahmudiyah. They’d never endanger themselves by visiting the Triangle of Death.
No one, except Vince Vaughn.
Vince stopped at FOB St. Michael purely because he was told that no one stopped there. He went around our base, talking with every soldier. He signed photos and took photos while holding a sign that said, “If you can dodge an IED, you can dodge a ball.”
He even sat and played me, a lowly medic, in NCAA football in our haphazard, poorly constructed smoke shack. He played as Virginia Tech, if I remember, and I played as Texas Tech.
He was relaxed even though we were mortared when he landed and he had to lay on the helipad (everyone around him was still standing as we were accustomed to it, but we won’t fault him for that.)
Here’s the thing. We had lost multiple men in the days leading up to his visit and the constant combat was exhausting… but Vince Vaughn is an entertainer, and he used his skills to enable us, for just a few hours, to forget the horrors of the conflict we were in at great danger to himself.
So, sure, nobodies behind a keyboard will fault him for shaking the President’s hand. Nobodies will say that he needs to be canceled. Hollywood hacks who flew over our base will judge him. But I, for one, know better. I know that he’s a hero and that I will support him in his endeavors as he supported me in mine.
Please, let others know about what Vince did. He deserves credit, although, I know, he’s asked for none.

Vaughn seems like one of Hollywood’s rare off-screen good guys.
https://www.hollywoodintoto.com/vince-vaughn-cancel-culture-smear/

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Odlaw

15 January 2020

,,,Trump’s got a thing for Putin,,,
”’Early in his administration, for instance, Trump is eager to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin — so much so, the authors write, “that during the transition he interrupts an interview with one of his secretary of state candidates” to inquire about his pressing desire: “When can I meet Putin? Can I meet with him before the inaugural ceremony?” he asks.”’
,,,No way Trump is corrupt,,,
”’In spring 2017, Trump also clashed with Tillerson when he told him he wanted his help getting rid of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, a 1977 law that prevents U.S. firms and individuals from bribing foreign officials for business deals.
“It’s just so unfair that American companies aren’t allowed to pay bribes to get business overseas,” Trump says, according to the book. “We’re going to change that.”
The president, they go on to explain, was frustrated with the law “ostensibly because it restricted his industry buddies or his own company’s executives from paying off foreign governments in faraway lands.”’
”’By the way, I have great respect for China. I have many Chinese friends. They live in my buildings all over the place.”’ – Donald J Trump

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Walt

15 January 2020

Try harder Dougy, still better than your boy “O” inviting terrorists inside the W.H.

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Walt

15 January 2020

Even better than your boy “O” shipping terrorists in under the cover of “refugees”.

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fish

15 January 2020

Posted by: Walt | 15 January 2020 at 02:30 PM
C’mon Walt……leave Comma Man a little hope……after last nights “debate” he’s clawing at anything at all that will buoy his spirits.

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Walt

15 January 2020

Iran (the LIBS new friends) are REAL upset they had to admit to the shoot down.
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2020/01/15/iran-claims-arrested-source-damning-ukrainian-plane-video/
“The alleged videographer behind the short film is the only person at press time that Iranian authorities have specified that they arrested. The deputy head of the Iranian judiciary, Hadi Sadeqi, reportedly announced “arrests” on Tuesday in relation to the attack on Flight 752, but did not name the individuals or identify them in any way, including offering any estimate as to how many people were in custody over the incident.”

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Odlaw

15 January 2020

,,,No worries Oosik,,,I just like to remind everyone of how much of a weirdo Dear Leader is…

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Walt

15 January 2020

Did our Proggys watch CNN? See the pomp of hoofing the impeachment papers from the House to the Senate? A camera caught every step! How special was THAT!!?? It could not have been better if they spiked the documents to the door.
Pure LIB porn at it’s best.

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Odlaw

15 January 2020

,,,Po Ol Penturkey Peacock,,,keep trying man,,,gotta love how your alt-right news sites try to work you boys into a lather,,,rattle those sabers!!!
“A former commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, which the FBI says played a role in a 1996 terrorist attack that killed 19 U.S. servicemen, accompanied Iraq’s prime minister to the White House on Monday, attending an event at which President Obama trumpeted the end of the Iraq War.
Hadi Farhan al-Amiri, transportation minister in Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s government, was part of the delegation that visited the White House to discuss Iraq’s future and Iran’s influence there, among other topics.
At a joint White House news conference with Mr. al-Maliki, Mr. Obama proclaimed that the U.S. is committed to being a major player in the region and that Iraq’s neighbors should take heed. He did not mention Iran by name.”

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Walt

15 January 2020

A two sock puppet day Dougy? Still looking to make Iran look good? I can see why the Iranian people being pro Trump and anti Mulla would upset you.

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Bill Tozer

15 January 2020

Why Does New York’s Bureaucracy Cost So Much More Than Florida’s?
https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/why-does-new-yorks-bureaucracy-cost-so-much-more-floridas

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George Rebane

15 January 2020

PaulE 1101am – You were among the very fortunates in the mid-60s. On the other hand, I as a just returned GI from active duty and a graduate engineer at a big aerospace company in 1965 was doing quite well with $4/hr ($8K/yr). You just explained why unions have taken a dump since then.
Re Odlaw 1150am – another example of a liberal losing the thread (BTW, this is a difficult blog to engage in; lots of complex topics hard to wrap your head around). What does such a comment have to do with Bernie’s lie as demonstrated by the Bureau of Labor Statistics data?

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George Rebane

15 January 2020

RobertC 1108am – Then who actually did save the ‘pre-existing conditions’ clause in the proposed revision to Obamacare? Dems don’t count since they didn’t propose any revision to Obamacare.

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Bill Tozer

15 January 2020

Well, no comments of the debate last night? Ok, be that way. Oh, wait. The debate is tonight, right? That’s right. Trump had a rally last night. Man, that place was having a fun time start to finish. Guess I will record tonight’’s Dem debate to see howTulsi and Bloomberg do.
Since Booker dropped out, that means Warren is the only black candidate on the stage.
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Let’s do a Colombo here, Sherlock Holmes if you prefer:
Pocahontas said Bernie said a woman could never become POTUS. Now, I know Paul will say, “I believe her.” Anybody else? Is the burden of proof on the accused? Is Warren lying iris Bernie lying.
Take the challenge.
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156985534445914/?type=3&theater

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