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['In life it's important to know when to stop arguing with people, and simply let them be wrong.' – an old shibboleth with conditional wisdom.  Doesn't deciding when to stop arguing also depend on who all are listening to the argument?  gjr]

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280 responses to “Sandbox – 31oct19”

  1. Biguns Avatar
    Biguns

    ,,,oh sea urchin,,,what political office was Epstein running for? Isn’t raping children was Trumple’s buddies in the middle East do for fun?

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: BigAnus | 06 November 2019 at 07:15 AM

    So what you’re sayin is that, “ABC News covering for Epstein is a good thing”? dugsKKKiwith that kind of “can do” spirit……I really think that there’s a future for you in modern journalism!
    If you ever get out of the pirating of children movies business you should look into it!

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ah, the biggest Rapist of them all.
    ABU BAKR AL-BAGHDADI, RAPIST, LED GENOCIDAL ‘CALIPHATE,’ DIED IN TUNNEL
    Like most jihadists, his main motivation was murder and genocide, combined with far-Right religious hatred. Hitler died in a bunker; Baghdadi died in a tunnel.
    “For much of his time in the leadership of ISIS, the rapist Baghdadi was a kind of mirage, a shadowy figure who was reportedly killed several times. Yet he survived, escaping again and again as his enemies closed in. Baghdadi was a religious devotee as a young man, and was detained by the Americans after the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Born in central Iraq, he joined an extremist group, was picked up near Falluja, and held at Camp Bucca in 2004. Rukmini Callimachi, the New York Times correspondent who covers ISIS, writes that by the time he was detained, he was not only radicalized but he “began inciting attacks against Shia prisoners, using metal shanks.”
    In his hatred of Shi’ites, Baghdadi was channeling a new kind of jihadist zeal. While al-Qaeda and others had launched a war against the West and against local totalitarian and corrupted governments under the banner of “Islam,” the concepts floating around Iraq in 2004 viewed non-Sunnis as sub-humans. They all had to be killed: Christians, Shi’ites, Yazidis and other groups such as Kurds.
    This was a truly Nazi-style ideology that saw the world in terms of believers and sub-humans. It was helped along by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaeda leader in Iraq who pushed for more targeting of Shi’ites and minorities. Mass attacks in 2004 on Shi’ite shrines were carried out in Karbala, killing hundreds. Baghdadi was paying attention.
    As Baghdadi rose to the leadership of what was then called “Islamic State of Iraq,” the Sunni insurgents that had initially been fighting the US had shifted tactics to murdering fellow Iraqis. Massive bombings targeted Yazidi communities in 2007, killing 700 people; more bombings targeted the Kekei religious community, Shebeks, Kurds and Christians. From 2007 to 2009, cities were awash in blood.
    ALL THE WHILE, Baghdadi was busy raping women. This was not incidental to his caliphate: It was the main driving force behind it. ISIS was an empire of rape. It sold itself abroad as a brand promising young men from Central Asia to the Caribbean a chance to come to Syria and Iraq, and rape and harm local people. It promised slaves and booty. Baghdadi raped Yazidi girls and his forces acquired the kidnapped American Kayla Mueller.
    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Baghdadi-rapist-led-genocidal-caliphate-died-in-tunnel-606053
    Now, let’s talk about Epstein, shall we?

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Finally, the truth is spoken from a Liberal’s lips!
    ABC’s “The View” co-host Joy Behar suggested on Monday that Democrats should wait until they are elected into public office before they reveal to the American people their true political intentions.
    “They should not tell everything they’re going to do,” Behar said. “Like if you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take the guns away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/joy-behar-suggests-that-democrats-shouldnt-warn-americans-ahead-of-time-before-taking-their-guns
    Boy, Beto sure was a dummie for deviating from the tried and true Democrat playbook.

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Change the verbiage from Quid Pro Quo to ‘extortion and bribery’ and the facts of the case still remain the facts of the case.
    “Desperate Dems Drop ‘Quid Pro Quo’ Rhetoric, Now It’s ‘Extortion’ And ‘Bribery’
    “As the hours of transcripts of witnesses in the Ukraine impeachment inquiry rack up and continue to underwhelm, Democrats and their allies in the media have seized on a new tactic. The old, archaic term “quid pro quo,” is about to go the way of the Dodo. In its place the terms “extortion” and “bribery” will fly about like hot air balloons in California wine country.
    “But the rhetorical shift does tell us a story about how many Democrats feel the impeachment effort is going. And it’s not a happy one. I recently described this lightning fast impeachment effort as a Blitzkrieg, which is a military tactic in which an army strikes very hard, very fast, in the hopes of a victory in very short order. The downside of this tactic is that if you slow down, if you start to run out of steam, you become badly exposed. Supply lines become distant and reinforcements hard to rally.”
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/06/desperate-dems-drop-quid-pro-quo-rhetoric-now-its-extortion-and-bribery/

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    Administrivia – I draw your kind attention to the 6nov19 update of Scattershots here –
    https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2019/11/scattershots-3nov19.html

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  7. Walt Avatar

    Why go after those who elect you?
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/mexicos-lopez-obrador-defends-hugs-not-bullets-policy
    This guy must have got schooled by Progys from El Norte’
    “Mexico’s president stood defiant Wednesday amid mounting criticism of his government’s policy of using “hugs, not bullets” when fighting drug cartels after nine Americans – including six children – were gunned down by sicarios on Monday.
    President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador brushed off criticisms against his government’s position and reiterated Wednesday during his daily media briefing that violence was not the answer or appropriate response to the growing deaths at the hands of cartels.”
    Meanwhile the problems South of the border have gotten worse, tenfold.
    And the Proggys here want an open border? Tell us again LIBS, why your not brain damaged.

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    In their hearts they know what going to happen in spite of rancid Russian dressing and the swamp creature manufactured hoaxes –
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-majority-expects-trump-win-100719696.html
    😉

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  9. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Thanks capt. obvious –
    Mark Zaid, one of the attorneys representing the whistleblower at the center of the Democrats’ ongoing impeachment inquiry, tweeted conspicuously in January 2017 that a “coup has started” and that “impeachment will follow ultimately.”
    Then, in July 2017, Zaid remarked, “I predict @CNN will play a key role in @realDonaldTrump not finishing out his full term as president.”
    Amid a slew of impeachment-related posts, Zaid also assured his Twitter followers that “as one falls, two more will take their place,” referring to outgoing Trump administration employees.
    The posts, which came shortly after President Trump fired then-acting Attorney General Sally Yates for failing to defend federal laws in court, are likely to fuel Republican concerns that the whistleblower’s complaint is tainted with partisanship.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coup-has-started-whistleblowers-attorney-said-in-2017-posts-calling-for-impeachment
    😉

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  10. George Rebane Avatar

    DonB 208pm – As we all have pointed out for the last almost three years, the evidence is overwhelming that the Left, led by Democrats, have had Trump’s impeachment on the agenda. Evidence be damned; ‘we’ll make it up as needed’. And the obvious telltales of conspiracy – yes, it really has been and continues to be a conspiracy under its formal definition – just continue to be discovered under all kinds or rocks, dark places, and in all kinds of slime. Thanks for the latest Mr Bessee.

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  11. Walt Avatar

    The word “Conspiracy” comes to mind.. I do believe there is a criminal statute about that.

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  12. L Avatar
    L

    Re: my own 12:22am above. The winning side scored 71%, which is huge in a diverse city like ours. Since Kali has the initiative, R’s should consider putting such a choice on the ballot for the next election; the outcome is very, very likely to be the same anywhere this question is put before the people.
    Oddly (not) this huge victory for R’s and common sense remains unmentioned by the MSM nearly 24 hours on.
    Should also teach me not to post in the middle of the night, particularly not in position 200 where the comment is almost certain to be missed in the rush to punch “newer”.

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  13. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    In the ‘trumpler is too stupid; defense’ category: Sen. Lindsey Graham put forth the theory that there was no quid pro quo because trumpler’s policy toward Ukraine “was incoherent, it depends on who you talk to, they seem to be incapable of forming a quid pro quo, so no I find the whole process to be a sham and I’m not going to legitimize it.”
    innocent by reason of insanity. How convenient. Now should an insane person have the launch codes?

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  14. Walt Avatar

    Still not a crime Bobby. It’s business as usual in politics.
    Only with Trump do you cry foul.

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  15. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    How emeryesque @448.

    I never personally talked to the president but the NYT’s said so so it must be right, right? –
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/06/bill-taylor-cites-nyt-as-sole-source-for-his-claim-trump-wanted-ukraine-to-launch-probe-to-get-dirt-on-biden/
    😉

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  16. Walt Avatar

    Some new age hippie food for you.. You will be wishing for Soylent Green.
    http://news.trust.org/item/20191106063148-co2y1
    “It may sound like science fiction, but in a few short years the family dinner table may be laden with steak from a printer and other proteins produced from air, methane or volcanic microbes.
    With the explosive success of vegan beef and burger substitutes developed by Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods, the alternative protein sector just keeps growing.”
    Sounds like something Babs and Jeffy would go for.
    I will pass, Thank You vary much.

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  17. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    This is why the historic Senate gain will positively impact 2 generations! –
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/06/donald-trump-celebrates-historic-federal-judicial-confirmation-milestone/
    😉

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  18. Walt Avatar

    I had a sneaky suspicion.
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/31/treasure-quest-team-leader-exposes-the-fraud-of-reality-television/
    But LIBS will believe anything. Even those AGW videos.

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Robert Cross | 06 November 2019 at 04:48 PM
    Then it apped you never read the transcript.

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  20. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Even the French have had enough of disorder –
    France to impose migrant quotas to ‘take back control’
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/france-impose-migrant-quotas
    😉

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    From the old sixties song…. I think it’s time we stop, children, what’s that sound
    Everybody look what’s going down….
    “How Did Democrats Get Here?
    Democrats’ embrace of thuggery over democracy is not normal.”
    “The number of Democrat liberals fighting back against the libel, the hate, and hard leftists taking over over their party is miniscule. Alan Dershowitz comes to mind. I know there are a few others, but I can’t recall them at the moment.
    What is going on?
    “How evil is the left? This evil,” John Hinderaker wrote after the “appalling” Antifa attacks on Trump supporters and police in “nice” Minnesota. But not a single Democrat politician or media voice finds the violence appalling. Just the opposite—a Democrat legislator participated in the riot, while others, including U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), tweeted their approval.
    “Are there any moderate Democrats left?” Hinderaker asked.
    “It’s an important question. Why aren’t Democrats fighting for their own party—and our country—against the hostile takeover by the Left?”
    https://amgreatness.com/2019/11/02/how-did-democrats-get-here/

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ah heck, how about some Daily Quotes.
    Observations: “This isn’t your grandfather’s Democrat Party. If you look at their party platform, it’s not for working-class Americans. JFK would be an alt-right, neo-Nazi terrorist according to them today.” —Donald Trump Jr.
    Food for thought: “The drug cartels are as vicious as ISIS, complete with a similar penchant for rape and mutilation, and they’re very close to duplicating the Islamic State feat of establishing a cross-border ‘caliphate.’ The border in question is the one between the U.S. and Mexico.” —John Hayward
    Re: The Leftmedia: “ABC killed the Epstein story. NBC killed the Weinstein story. And these frauds have the audacity to act persecuted when Trump attacks them. They deserve every bit of it. Our media is a disgrace. Enemies of the people indeed.” —Matt Walsh
    Political futures: “I’m perfectly happy to say Trump is to blame in various elections. I’ve done so in the past. But the KY GOP taking all statewide offices except Governor, flipping two statewide seats, and getting a state legislative supermajority doesn’t sound like anti-Trump feelings at work.” —Erick Erickson
    For the record: “I have two friends that I spoke to over the weekend, both of whom I served in Congress with, neither of whom voted to impeach Bill Clinton, and both of them said they don’t think this rises to the level of impeachment.” —John Kasich
    Faux virtue: “We have to move on impeachment because it’s not about politics. It’s not about polling. It’s about principle.” —unprincipled DNC Chairman Tom Perez
    Rules for radicals: “They should not tell everything they’re going to do. Like if you are going to take people’s guns away, wait until you get elected and then take the guns away. Don’t tell them ahead of time.” —”The View’s” Joy Behar
    Grand delusions: “I don’t think Medicare for All costs a lot of votes… I’m not sure that we lose any votes because of that.” —Rep. John Yarmuth
    Non compos mentis: “Homelessness isn’t a crime. It’s a symptom of the greed that is destroying housing in America. When we are in the White House, we will stop the criminalization of homelessness and invest $32 billion over five years to end homelessness once and for all.” —Sen. Bernie Sanders
    And last… “Let me get this straight: A story on Jeffrey Epstein’s sick crimes didn’t meet ABC’s journalistic standards but a video of a gun range in Kentucky passed off [as] the Syrian Civil War does?” —Charlie Kirk

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  23. fish Avatar
    fish

    NOVEMBER 6, 2019


    #JOURNALISM: The media protected Jeffrey Epstein and crucified Brett Kavanaugh. Well, that’s just because they’re horrible people. And Democratic Party operatives with bylines.

    …….yeah……pretty much!
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-media-protected-jeffrey-epstein-and-crucified-brett-kavanaugh

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  24. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The turks are not to be trusted –
    “For the Turkish National Intelligence, or Turkish police, [ISIS] are not the real enemy,” said Ahmet Yayla, a former Turkish counter-terrorism police chief and now a fellow at the George Washington University Programme on Extremism. “They do not seriously look for these people, but [President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan is in a position where he is trying to prove that he is fighting against ISIS.
    “It is impossible for the Turkish intelligence that Turkey does not know of his presence five to seven kilometres away from the Turkish border,” a former high-ranking Turkish military officer said.
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/11/06/iraqi-intel-turkey-allowed-baghdadis-brother-travel-in-out-messenger/
    😉

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    For what it’s worth: Survey sez:
    “Or, as Obama put it, these are the people who are “bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them.”
    As it turns out, that is the exact opposite of the truth.
    Last year, the Social Psychological and Personality Science journal published the findings of a study by University of Southern California researcher David Newman. He analyzed the happiness of 50,000 people from 16 countries over a 40-year period.
    What Newman’s team discovered is that conservatives are consistently and significantly happier than their liberal counterparts, and the more conservative a person is, the happier they are. Social conservatives are even happier than just fiscal conservatives, and both are much happier than liberals. Why? Because “there is some unique aspect of political conservatism that provides people with meaning and purpose in life.”
    This was true for conservatives “at all reporting periods (global, daily, and momentary).” In other words, conservatives tend to be happy as a general rule, and not just when things are going well for them. That is extremely significant. It means their happiness is related to who they are inside, rather than being a reaction to their circumstances.”
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/66595-conservatives-are-happier-more-generous-than-liberals-2019-11-06?
    In the U.S., where leftists gravitate toward the Democrat Party and conservatives to the Republican Party, these mindsets and ideologies are clearly manifest in their messaging. As one writer put it, “Republicans … preach the message of limited government, responsibility and self-reliance, while Democrats … preach a message of victimhood and entitlement. … The former is empowering and the latter is debilitating, tending only to provoke feelings of resentment, anger, and helplessness.”
    This supports the findings of a Pew Research Center study showing that Republicans maintain higher levels of happiness across all income levels, so it’s not just those evil, rich Republicans swimming in their pools of cash who are happy.

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  26. Walt Avatar

    What? The usual crowd not chest thumping that Nevada County is as blue as stripe on that rainbow flag?
    The LIBS have already got a head start on “Frisco-ing” Nevada Co. They should be proud about continuing the process to shitholeville. There constituents have already tried to burn down the town three times.( Yup, the Litton Hill fires count)
    Then the druggy infestation. More LIB constituents.
    Some should really listen to the sheriff radio traffic for a while. The police blotter leaves PLENTY out.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Tulsi takes it to the Sea Hag. You go, girl.
    “Tulsi Gabbard Crushes Joy Behar In Clash Over Clinton Accusations On ‘The View’”
    The segment appeared to leave Behar speechless, but unsatisfied. Gabbard seemed pleased with the performance.
    Since Clinton made her comments on David Plouffe’s podcast, Gabbard has shot up in the rankings among 2020 Democratic presidential hopefuls and is now solidly in the second tier.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/tulsi-gabbard-crushes-joy-behar-in-clash-over-clinton-accusations-on-the-view?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

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  28. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Hostile on every front be the fakenews –
    The Times ran a report Monday headlined, “U.S. victims in Mexico massacre were tied to family with a long history of violence,” which detailed the community’s tragic past with the cartels.
    The Los Angeles Times faced criticism over a story on the victims of the Mexico massacre.
    The report sparked a firestorm of criticism on social media.
    “This story is just terrible. A family is burying small children and now the media is dredging up completely unrelated events, committed by distant relatives, that happened more than a generation ago. Nice,” The Dispatch senior editor David French wrote.
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/los-angeles-times-mexico-cartel-massacre-victims
    😉

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  29. L Avatar
    L

    Lemme try one more time. On Tues nite, Tucson- the most liberal stronghold in Az and a city 50% Hispanic had a first ever opportunity to decide if it was to become a sanctuary city. 71% said NO. Pretty sure this would be the case anywhere the people were asked their opinion before the declaration was made.
    Given Kali has an initiative provision, this should give some R’s an idea. The media has been beyond silent on the result- wouldn’t want word to get out.
    You guys asleep or merely inattentive?

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  30. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    In the ‘blah blah blah Clinton Foundation blah blah blah’ category : A judge ordered President Donald Trump to pay $2 million to a collection of nonprofit organizations as part of a settlement with the New York state attorney general’s office to resolve a civil lawsuit that alleged “persistent” violations of charities law that included unlawful coordination with the 2016 Trump presidential campaign.” Filed in June 2018, the lawsuit alleged that the President and his three eldest children — Don Jr., Ivanka and Eric — violated federal and state campaign finance laws and abused the Donald J. Trump Foundation’s tax-exempt status. According to the lawsuit, the Trumps allowed the foundation to be used “as little more than a checkbook to serve Mr. Trump’s business and political interests.”
    The settlement comes in the wake of an agreement by the foundation in December to dissolve under judicial supervision.
    How many lawsuits have been filed against the Clinton Foundation? How come it hasn’t been dissolved by the courts? answer: they did nothing wrong.. unlike the trumplers
    goombah goombah goombah

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  31. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Roberta Cross | 07 November 2019 at 10:22 AM
    answer: they did nothing wrong.. unlike the trumplers

    Maybe Bertie…..but probably just slicker at graft than Trump! Anyway why do you care? You yourself said that the Clintons were history…..why defend them at this point!
    Oh yes…..your feminine impulse “to protect” How silly of me!

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Strong earnings, strong jobs numbers and boom new dow records! WINNING!
    😉

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  33. Biguns Avatar
    Biguns

    ,,,Fish@1043,,,
    yes my dear Grunion Boy,,,why do you Roundtable wankers keep trying to re-litigate Benghazi, Whitewater, Hillary’s mysterious server hidden deep in the hills of Ukraine, Little Boy Biden and on and on,,,when the only important issue is the one happening in real time regarding Big Anus Commander in Chief???

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  34. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: BigAnus | 07 November 2019 at 11:19 AM
    ….when the only important issue is the one happening in real time regarding Big Anus Commander in Chief???

    Uh oh……sounds like someone is getting spun up again!

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  35. Walt Avatar

    Here is a good one for the flyers,, some people find the damnedest things.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fgynmXxaog
    Nice stash of German fighters from WWII.
    And one fires up after all these years?

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  36. Walt Avatar

    Now some people demand politicians keep those campaign promises.
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/mexico-mayor-dragged-car-angry-locals
    “the mayor of their village was dragged out of his office, beaten, and then tied to a pickup truck and dragged through the streets of the town,
    The angry group of farmers was demanding the mayor build a road he promised to construct during his campaign”

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  37. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    When the Hollywood wokesters get a reminder that they are not the majority –
    The booing is fucking us up,” The View co-host Whoopi Goldberg told the morning show’s audience during a commercial break on Thursday. “It’s messing with everyone’s mic. You can grimace and all that. All we hear is booing.”
    Goldberg was trying to restore a sense of calm and civility after a rancorous first interview segment with Donald Trump Jr. and his girlfriend, former Fox News host Kimberly Guilfoyle. (The Hollywood Reporter attended the show as a member of the audience and took notes.)
    Booing is a no-no for members of the show’s audience, but the crowd on Thursday alternatively booed and cheered as Trump and Guilfoyle clashed with members of the show’s cast, including Joy Behar, Abby Huntsman, Sunny Hostin and Meghan McCain.
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/booing-is-fing-us-up-view-melts-down-donald-trump-jr-visit-1253109
    😉

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    From the here and now: Daily Quotes
    Observations: “When Trump stepped into office, the GOP had 1,124 state senators and 3,055 state representatives across the country. Today, the GOP has 1,081 state senators and 2,770 state representatives. When Trump took office, Democrats controlled just 14 state legislative chambers across the country; starting next year, Democrats will control 20 state legislative chambers. That’s not as severe as the Democratic party’s drop-off during the Obama era, but the trend is moving in the same direction.” —Jim Geraghty
    Walking a fine line: “I suppose we could call the Trump administration’s idea of deterrence without preemptive intervention as either ‘Live and let live’ — or, more macabrely, ‘Live — and let die.’ Either way, the paradox is to maintain critical deterrence against American enemies to prevent a war, but without Pavlovian interventions, and without being baited into optional military action that is antithetical to the national mood that got Trump elected.” —Victor Davis Hanson
    Opportunism: “Of course, it has … come out that — I’ll be darned! — the ‘whistleblower’ has ties to prominent Democratic Trump detractors. So now, the same Democrats who previously saw the man as a potential star witness have decided that his usefulness has run its course. Now that he is a potential liability, it has suddenly become unpatriotic to utter his name.” —Andrew McCarthy
    For the record: “[The IG report will be] explosive. For people at the highest levels of the FBI and at the highest levels of the Justice Department, it’s going to be devastating. It’s going to ruin careers.” —former federal prosecutor Joe diGenova
    Collusion: “#coup has started. First of many steps. #rebellion. #impeachment will follow ultimately.” —”whistleblower” attorney Mark S. Zaid on Jan. 30, 2017
    Lessons from the School of Hard Knocks: “We have to hope that whoever ends up nominated can win the Electoral College.” —Hillary Clinton
    Non compos mentis: “We need to win the ticket in the heartland and win those states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan. We can do it. I can do it. … We are going to build a blue wall around those states and make Donald Trump pay for it. That is our plan.” —Sen. Amy Klobuchar
    Belly laugh of the week: “News item: China is facing a severe pork shortage. News item: U.S. bacon supply near a 50-year high. Seems like some obvious gains from trade to be had here.” —Steven Hayward
    And last… “Billionaires don’t deserve their money. You deserve it even less. The government deserves it least of all.” —Frank J. Fleming
    ——————
    Warren super duper plan for that.
    https://babylonbee.com/news/elizabeth-warrens-plan-to-pay-for-medicare-for-all-spend-so-much-the-national-debt-clock-rolls-over-to-zero/
    ——————-
    Last gasps? Harris new plan.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/kamala-harris-proposes-a-10-hour-school-day

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Linsey Graham
    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R–S.C.) says he will not be reading the impeachment transcripts as the House of Representatives takes action against President Donald Trump.
    “I’ve written the whole process off,” he told CBS News. “I think this is a bunch of B.S.”
    ——————
    “Impeachment based on the transcripts is dead on arrival in the Senate,” Graham said. “Impeachment based on the Mueller report is DOA. I don’t know where the Democrats are taking this. They are doing it in secret. They are doing it in a fashion that doesn’t withstand scrutiny.”
    “They’re about to destroy the nation for no good reason,” Graham said on Fox News. “I want Nancy Pelosi to know that Republican senators are not going to impeach this president based on this transcript, so she can stop now before she destroys the country.”
    ———————-
    Fun facts: People who eat bacon are less likely to blow themselves up.

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Well he bought his slot in the clown car debates so is anyone surprised? –
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/ap-exclusive-steyer-aide-offered-money-for-endorsements/ar-BBWqihL?ocid=spartandhp
    😉

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  41. George Rebane Avatar

    re DonB 1237pm – Wouldn’t any endorsement made for pro quid quo entail two liars – the payer lying to his constituents, and the payee lying to all who hear him?

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  42. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    BAM! –
    Dow, S&P 500 and Nasdaq hit record levels after China, U.S. agree to cancel tariffs in stages
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stock-futures-climb-after-report-china-us-agree-to-cancel-tariffs-in-stages-2019-11-07
    😉

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  43. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    grunion boy 10:43– I don’t give a crap about the Clinton’s, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of deflection you all use for your arguments… Clinton Clinton Clinton Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Obama Obama Obama.. when the chant should be trumpler trumpler trumpler goombah goombah goombah..

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The whistleblower statue: learn more in 4 minutes than any pundit will ever tell you.
    1) The statute does not apply to the president’s conducting of foreign policy, including his communications with foreign heads of state.
    2) The statue does not apply to the President of the United States.
    3). The president is not without arguments for why the so-called whistleblower’s identity should be disclosed, and why this person should be called to testify. I’ll address them in a separate column. But for present purposes: The so-called whistleblower is not a statutory whistleblower, and his anonymity is not protected by law; but the Sixth Amendment has nothing to do with impeachment,
    https://news.yahoo.com/confrontation-latest-bogus-legal-argument-113007321.html

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  45. George Rebane Avatar

    RobertC 346pm – You’re peremptorily dismissing the commenters here who are trying to give you some perspective for your TDS. They are not dismissing your constant attacks on Trump, but only responding with the attempt to frame them within some very recent historical context in the hopes you would put Trump’s iniquities into some perspective. Though from my perch it does look like they are pissing in the wind.

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  46. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Boy, Bobbie has changed his mannerisms. It’s almost like he is becoming unhinged bit by bit or is a whole different person posting. No more nice man with put forth his positions. At this rate, soon there will be so many Bobbie’s that he can poise for a family portrait all by himself…or himselves. They do say TDS is progressive and irreversible.
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/06/trump-derangement-is-destroying-political-analysis/

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    fish

    Posted by: Roberta Cross | 07 November 2019 at 03:46 PM
    Grunion Boy

    I like it!

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    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 07 November 2019 at 04:14 PM
    Boy, Bobbie has changed his her mannerisms. It’s almost like she is becoming unhinged bit by bit or is a whole different person posting.

    Yeah….. more frantic and hysterical daily! A civilized society would shoot a dart in her ass and confine her to a padded cell until late in Trumps next term!
    Women…..

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