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280 responses to “Sandbox – 31oct19”
HEY!!! What about commuter train from here to colfax or Auburn?
The studies folk and lawyers would LOVE that idea.
Look how long it taking to try and fix a half mile of HY174.
That plan was hatched 15 or so years ago.
HELL!! Extend it to San Juan Ridge! There will be 6 story high rises there before the hovertrack is built.
There will be plenty of future endangered critter flora and fauna to fight about.
Just like when the built the new bridge over the river. Every rock had to be put back as they found it.(photographed and numbered, aligned by GPS)
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I was just checking out Colfax to LA for next week on Amtrak.
12 hours, 35 minutes.
A bus and then a bus and then a train and then a bus.
I mean, what’s not to love about rapid transit?
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Walt,
Remember that guy years ago that moved up here from the Bay Area and ran for GV City Council (or some local office) on the platform of running an electric monorail or train from GV to Colfax to reduce traffic on 49 and our carbon footprint. When asked what would one do when the train ended in Colfax, he gave the perfect Progressive response: “Then you take the bus from Colfax to Auburn”’ Lol. Like, once the Brown Streak reaches Buttonwillows, what do you do then? Why, take the Greyhound over the Grapevine to LA. Then I guess you then take a cab or Uber to where you need to go.
Remember that time Dougski proposed running a trolley or rail from the big empty building across from the National when an organic store like Briar Patch was thinking about moving into the vacant building but there was limited parking. Great idea. Built a green transport, hire a conductor, and parking problem solved…unless you buy a whole shopping cart full of produce and lotions and potions. Great idea Dougski. Just remove one lane from Broad Street to fix parking issues. Too funny. Where do these people come from? I will give you one guess.
Daily Quotes:
Insight: “Excellence demands competition. Without a race there can be no champion, no records broken, no excellence — in education or in any other walk of life.” —Ronald Reagan
For the record: “It’s kind of like Al Gore condemning climate hysteria, or like Beyoncé denouncing the over-sexualization of modern music. That’s how I felt watching former President Obama’s recent condemnation of so-called ‘cancel culture.’ Keep in mind, it’s not that I would be bothered by Gore’s renunciation of the climate cult or Beyoncé’s censuring promiscuous lyrics, it’s that I would find the whole thing surreal. When you instigate, fuel, and participate in something, it’s an odd spectacle for you to turn around and criticize it.” —Peter Heck
Non compos mentis: “My ideas are not far left. They are the ideas that the American people want.” —Sen. Bernie Sanders
Friendly fire: “I’m not a big fan of Medicare for All. I mean, I welcome the debate. I think we should have healthcare for all. I think the Affordable Care [Act] benefit is better than the Medicare benefits.” —House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Grand delusions: “No one gets left behind. Some of the people currently working in health insurance will work in other parts of insurance. In life insurance, in auto insurance, in car insurance. Some will work for Medicaid.” —Sen. Elizabeth Warren on the hundreds of thousands who will lose jobs under her version of Medicare for All
Bloviating: “It doesn’t raise taxes on anybody but billionaires. You know what? The billionaires can afford it, and I don’t call them middle class.” —Elizabeth Warren
Braying jenny I: “I am beyond honored and excited for a president [Bernie Sanders] who will fight against Western Imperialism and fight for a just world.” —Rep. Ilhan Omar
Braying jenny II: “Together we are going to send a powerful message [to Trump]: Your efforts to coddle White Supremacy, to ban Muslims from entering the United States, to call people at neo-Nazi rallies ‘very fine people’ will fail!” —Ilhan Omar
The BIG Lie: “Anyone who questions extreme weather and climate change is just delusional at this point. We have seen in the State of New York … weather patterns that we never had before. We didn’t have hurricanes, we didn’t have super storms, we didn’t have tornadoes.” —New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo
And last… “There are 607 billionaires in the United States. There are ZERO living trillionaires in the United States. Elizabeth Warren expects 607 people to pay for her $52 trillion plan. Do you really think those people are going to stick around if she tries to roll that plan out?” —Caleb Hull
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You should LOVE that bus trip.
But,, it could be worse..
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/450360031472297560/
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Bill.. Was that Jonesy? I know he was a politician from somewhere down South.(so they story goes) Nutted up and they put him on a bus to anywhere… And here is where they threw him off the bus.(so the story goes)
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Walt. No, not Jonsey. It was a legit candidate. Now, I knew a guy up here from Laguna Beach that said when he was a boy, Jonsey used to stand on the road coming into town and wave to the cars. The unofficial official town greeter. Then somebody said he stood at the stop light on the coast highway greeting people coming into the sleepy retirement town of Santa Barbara. That was back in the day when Santa Barbara boasted of having the only stop light on 101 between LA and somewhere in Northern CA. A Chamber of Commerce conspiracy. I dunno.
So, the mystery-legend of Jonsey remains. I expected him to make it to NSJ and greet the approaching vehicles there. He seemed to like towns with one road in, one road out. 🙂 .
Rapid Transit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj2sfYCpHOo
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How come this has stayed under the radar??????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3VLqLLWxbQ&t=168s
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Its the economy stupid –
The chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) tried to change the subject when he was asked on Spanish-language TV about Latino gains in President Donald Trump’s economy.
The host, Patricia Janiot, said, “Mr. Perez, President Trump has achieved something important, especially for Latinos, which is to reduce the unemployment rate to historic lows. How then can the Democrats compete with a president that has been beneficial to Latinos on economic matters?”
In 2016, Trump captured just under 30 percent of the Latino vote, far above the expectations set by pre-election polls.
“Latinos are moving out of the urban centers, moving away from the stronghold of the Democrats,” said Jose Fuentes, a former attorney general of Puerto Rico who is advising the president’s reelection effort and called Pennsylvania “a perfect example.” ”We’re microtargeting those areas that can be successful for us.”
One reason for Trump’s economic success is his refusal to approve the amnesties sought by business groups. This rejection of additional immigration is popular among many Latinos, who put their desire for higher wages — and more family income — above their possible solidarity with other Hispanics and with immigrants.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/04/univision-host-stuns-tom-perez-trump-economy/
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OOOPSIES! Another socialist dem narrative bites the dust hard! Thanks schiff for brains.-
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/04/poll-59-say-trumps-interactions-with-ukraine-neither-illegal-nor-wrong/
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The wokesters in fakenews just wont give up with the crap no matter how many times they get busted! –
World Series MVP pitcher Stephen Strasburg is not going to put up with the Internet’s “fake news.”
That was the hashtag he used showing a video of him and the Washington Nationals celebrating their victory at the White House with President Trump.
Strasburg had been accused of snubbing Trump in a deceptively trimmed viral video, as USA TODAY reported, so the 31-year-old right-hander tweeted the full video showing him shaking hands with the president.
Strasburg went 5-0 in the MLB postseason as the Nationals won their first world championship in franchise history.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/stephen-strasburg-trump-white-house-world-series-washington-nationals
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The rapidly shrinking Kamala Harris
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIk2-BsUUAARtgq.jpg
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Texas going dem? Not so fast buddy. The beta beto effect? =
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/04/poll-top-democrats-trail-president-trump-texas/
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This is getting fun watching the coup conspirators squirm, don’t forget some of the swamp team prosecutors had been reprimanded by SCOTUS as well as other Federal Judges –
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flynn-attorneys-demand-fbi-provide-all-flynn-interview-drafts-after-evidence-surfaces-fbi-manipulated-docs
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Peeling back the opinion….Russia Hoax
“These close connections between the Washington Post’s Ignatius and individuals connected to the American and British intelligence communities, and the false reporting that has taken place over the last three-plus years, raise grave concerns that the warfare of the soft coup aimed at President Trump includes using the media to push propaganda.”
https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/04/scoop-cia-fbi-informant-was-washington-post-source-for-russiagate-smears/
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Squash it. Do not go there.
Leaked ABC News Insider Recording EXPOSES #EpsteinCoverup “We had Clinton, We had Everything”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lfwkTsJGYA
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Morn’n Bill,, The ridge rat will surely have something negative to say about that.
My Cousin the writer wants to stay away from this one. As tempting it is, getting Arkicided makes it lose the appeal.
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And one for Emery, who believes people hate Trump more than LIB ideals.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/04/montgomery-county-backpedals-sanctuary-policy/#disqus_thread
Somehow I think people are more fed up with Proggys than they are Trump.
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On little donnie’s book the comes out today, Trumpler said, ” a great new book that I highly recommend for ALL to read,” — Did trumpler really read it? probably not, he can’t read and prefers coloring books to print….You know like ‘my little pony.’
According to US Code 2635.702 on the use of pubic office for personal gain “an employee shall not use his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a non-governmental capacity including nonprofit organizations of which the employee is an officer or member, and persons with whom the employee has or seeks employment or business relations.”
Translation: trumpler stumping for donny Jr’s POS book is illegal. so what else is new.. repeat after me, goombah goomgah goombah grifter grifter grifter yea trumpler.
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Posted by: Roberta Cross | 05 November 2019 at 09:28 AM
goombah goomgah goombah grifter grifter grifter yea trumpler.
Spell check, Spell check, Spell check……edit, edit, edit……!
https://www.midol.com/home/
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You mean like the Clinons did for the scam of a non profit?
Not that Proggys give a shit about that… Right Babs?
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The Frischiest of statist wet dreams……..
I’m sure that my merely commenting about it will have him label me an “untreatable”!
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/11/04/uk-national-health-service-to-deny-treatment-for-racist-or-sexist-language-gestures-behaviour/
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WINNING!
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2019/11/05/u-s-ran-its-first-petroleum-surplus-in-at-least-40-years/
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DonB 1145am – I believe most RR readers (sans the leftists) very much appreciate your regular reports of how our economy is performing, and even of the (very) few victories conservatives have in the social arena. I most certainly do and thank you for them. My only concern about your reports is that your support for them mostly comes from outfits like Breitbart, Federalist, et al – in short, much to the joy of our progressives, these outlets are singing to the choir when they report these good news items. I’d like to hear some of your ideas on either finding center-oriented corroboration sources or how you/we can get these items to be reported in more mid-road channels. Thoughts?
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In the ‘quid pro quo’ category: Gordon Sondland submitted an addendum yesterday to his original testimony to say that he was directly involved in Trump’s attempted quid pro quo with Ukraine’s government, after previously claiming he could not recall the details. The plot thickens.
More damn lies, right? What is it now, four or five people that corroborate the details of trumpler’s attempt to extort election interference by a foreign country from the President of Ukraine?
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BoobieC did you miss the statement by the Ukrainian President? It looks like it. He said there was no “quid pro quo” So if both parties to the conversation say the same thing, wouldn’t that be the truth? It is in my world of reality. You fantasy in TDS land though makes you libnuts a true laughingstock.
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Posted by: Roberta Cross | 05 November 2019 at 01:17 PM
…..yawn….
Get back to me when they determine that Trump is is corrupt as a Clinton (either one will do).
http://www.midol.com
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RobertC 117pm – What’s the basis for this report?
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Toddler– it doesn’t what matter what the President of Ukraine says or if you are telling the truth (proof?). If someone sticks a gun in your face and demands your wallet and then backs off is that not ATTEMPTED robbery? Trumpler attempted to extort favors and multiple people have corroborated that fact. Whether he got them or not doesn’t matter either. He used his position for personal gain… end of story. Lock him up! and no one gives a crap about the Clintons. Get back to me when they are relevant to trumpler’s current dilemma. Clouseau strikes once again.
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Posted by: Roberta Cross | 05 November 2019 at 02:07 PM
Roberta…..you’re all aflutter…….all this politics talk must be upsetting for a woman of your temperament.
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It seems that at least half and perhaps even 75% of the country “gives a crap about the Clintons”, albeit for different reasons. That facet of national politics must be another thing missed by the local Left. And it’s interesting to note that for them the past advises the present only when it provides convenient support for their narrative.
I note that there seems to be no basis for Mr Cross’117pm report.
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,,,Ambassador Sondland flips!!! Looks like Trumpski’s pawns are falling right and left. Gee and he gave Trumple a Million Dollars so he could be ambassador,,,no swamp there!!!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gordon-sondland-transcript-read-full-text-testimony-trump-impeachment-inquiry-live-updates-2019-11-05/
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Posted by: George Rebane | 05 November 2019 at 02:37 PM
Actually I really don’t care that much about the Clintons George…….sometimes the criminals get away!
It is oh so much fun though to watch Roberta and Punchy go into histrionics about the comparison!
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So, Bobbi… do you really think young Master Biden could have gotten that cushy no-show no-work job in a corrupt country in an industry he had no experience in, paying $600k a year, without Dad?
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If only the Times were this inadvertently honest!
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George Rebane @ 12:36
Any thoughts (addressed to Don)?
I have simply stopped caring about what Fact Checker Bobbie thinks or says. With his track record of getting things always wrong (from his brain dead biased approved sites hating on biased right wing sites, it will never be good enough for him and his. I ain’t about to adjust my posts to appease one dumb fuck. Besides, the right leaning sites are factually correct,
whereas his Stamp of Approval sites are exactly what leads to your “I note that there seems to be no basis for Mr Cross’117pm report” @ 2:37 pm. Ok, read the Hill for a more balanced view.
It all gets down to writers. Byron York from the Wa Examiner is one writer, but not the Wa Examiner. John Solomon from the Hill is one writer, but not the Hill.
Frankly my dear, I just give a damn what Bobbie or the sock puppet crowd thinks anymore. They are like vultures who take the Fakenews, mash it up into a ball of slime in their mouth and feed it down their babies’ chicks throats.
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OH CRAP she told the truth! Pull her lib card –
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/05/democrat-rep-cindy-axne-confirms-backing-impeachment-inquiry-absolutely-a-political-disaster-for-democrats/
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For about two weeks now, my mind has been stuck on the Bridge Over the River kwai, a movie I have not seen in 30-50 years. Lt. Colonel Nicholson was pouring his soul and life into building the bridge, only to resist the effort to blow it up.
Most every witness has disagreed with Trump’s policy of Ukraine. Simple policy differences. The previous administration, military, State Department where all in building that bridge over the River Kwai. Then the orders came from high up to blow it up, destroying LT. Colonel’s plans, sweat, tears, and efforts. He resisted. Not the direction he planned, not in his cards.
I need not defend Trump, but I need to defend the Office of the Presidency. The President controls and sets the US foreign policy. The State Department works for the President. The President is the Commander-in-Chief. The NSA advises the Prez. The CIA’s job is to provide the Prez with information. The President chooses the foreign policy of the United States, not generals, ambassadors, or any subordinate. Who runs the nation’s foreign policy? Not some ambassador or adviser. They all are in the Executive Branch and Trump is boss of the Executive Branch. Every administration has vehement disagreements on foreign policy within its ranks, but only POTUS is Constitutionally mandated to set such policy.
Trump recalls an “long time dedicated distinguished” public servant, the Obama holdover Ambassador to Ukraine. Big deal. He can fired her or the AG anytime he chooses for any reason and for no reason.
Trump decided to go a different direction in Ukraine, in Syria, in Iran. It is call to make. The unelected Bureaucracy does not have the final say, POTUS does. Otherwise, we have unelected faceless “administrative state running things. If it is the military, then we cam that a military dictatorship.
Again, all these witnesses are spouting policy differences and their concerns. They are entitled to their opinions, but they are only opinions. The transcripts of the phone call is the evidence.
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Reader’s Digest version. Hunter Biden.
“ So the evidence is clear that Burisma parlayed its $3 million connection with Hunter Biden into access to the U.S. State Department.
“In my opinion, this is icing on the cake. Hunter Biden doesn’t speak Ukrainian. He has not worked in the natural gas industry, and knows little or nothing about business in Ukraine. There is only one reason why a Ukrainian natural gas company would pay him $3 million: his last name. Hunter essentially admitted as much in a television interview. Burisma obviously thought it was buying influence in the United States government, probably including particularly the State Department. Such influence would come not through Hunter Biden, who is of little consequence, but through his father, who was vice president and in charge of Ukraine policy for the Obama administration.
“This is how bribes are usually paid. Not many people who seek improper influence are foolish enough to write checks to a public official, nor are many public officials foolish enough to cash such checks. The usual routine is to write checks to a family member of the public official, usually in exchange for nominal or nonexistent services. That evidently is what happened here.
“Whether Joe Biden ever actually did anything for Burisma is beside the point. Burisma thought it was buying $3 million worth of influence in the Obama administration. This latest email exchange shows that Burisma did, in fact, get something for its money. But the corruption issue is the same, regardless.”
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/11/emails-reveal-biden-burisma-influence-at-state-department.php
Longer version: John Solomon
“But they clearly show that Hunter Biden, his business partner and Burisma’s legal team were able to secure contacts inside the State Department, including to one of his father’s most trusted aides, to Secretary Kerry and to the agency’s top energy official.
“The question now is: Did any of those contacts prompt further action or have anything to do with Joe Biden’s conduct in Ukraine in March 2016 when he forced Shokin’s firing?”
https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/
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,,,BillT 356pm,,,so who cares if Burisma wanted connections with the State Department,,, it is a non-starter…politics as usual right? Just as in your 346pm post Obama was the President. If he wanted to do business with a business located in Ukraine,,,an allied country,,,why all the hand wringing???
I like how you give Trumpelstiltskin a pass in the first post,,,then post your ”’now look over here at Biden”’ post.
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“We are not witnessing a legitimate impeachment process, and certainly not any form of justice recognizable in America since the Massachusetts Spring of 1693. Let’s examine the particular dishonest elements of Pelosi’s “Open and transparent investigative proceedings by the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence” — that’s Section 2 of her Resolution.
Schiff, unilaterally, decides “witness testimony relevant to the investigation.”
Schiff, unilaterally, controls subpoena authority.
Schiff, unilaterally, controls record production and evidence designation.
Schiff, unilaterally, controls written interrogatories.
Schiff, unilaterally, controls the outcome of Minority referrals to the Committee for reconsideration.
Schiff, unilaterally, controls all transcripts, to include: release, redactions and edits.
Schiff, unilaterally, controls “custody of records or other materials relating to the inquiry.”
Schiff, unilaterally, controls the final report.
“Open and transparent” — right.”
Hmmm. Does this mean that the minority’s call to have Adam Schifflips testify under oath as the first witness can be blocked….. by only Shiffy? Of course it does. Who does the retraction? Shiffy While it is now allowable for the minority to call witness and issue subpoenas, it is not permissible if Shiffy says so.
Why even pretend. I will save my breath and typing finger. Just write up the articles of impeachment, send it to the Senate, and have Moscow Mitch tie up Pocahontas, Commie Bernie, Amy, Corey, and Insignificant Harris in the Senate all through the Dem Primary voting season. 🙂
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Posted by: BigAnus | 05 November 2019 at 04:36 PM
I like how you give
Trumpelstiltskinthe gaffemaster clan a pass in the first post,,,then post your ”’now look over here atBidenTrump”’ post.Oh dugsKKKi…..maybe Gropey Joe will sniff your hair and give you a shoulder rub for all the diligent spinmeistering you do here!
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No surprises here-
A new book claims that top CIA employees have compared President Trump favorably to his predecessor, indicating that former President Barack Obama’s administration micromanaged intelligence matters and was too concerned with political correctness.
The revelation comes in commentator Doug Wead’s new book “Inside Trump’s White House: The Real Story of His Presidency,” which is set for release on Nov. 26. Wead cites an unnamed White House source who claims CIA officials leveled complaints against the Obama administration during a meeting with then-CIA director Mike Pompeo.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/book-cia-staff-obama-white-house
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Oh Biggums
I see you failed to distinguish my 3:46 pm from my 3:56 pm. Two different topics. One is explanation of the Executive Branch duties and the President’s sole authority to set US foreign policy and the other topic was Hunter Biden not passing the smell test. Apples and oranges.
“BillT 356pm,,,so who cares if Burisma wanted connections with the State Department,,, it is a non-starter…politics as usual…”
Wrong again, Big Gums. Not that Burisma WANTED State Department connections, but rather, they HAD State Department connections. Just such connections that warranted Papa Doc Creep y Joe to drop everything and fly to Ukraine to have the Prosecutor General fired one week BEFORE his scheduled interview with Hunter, a board member of Burisma. The interview of Baby Doc Biden was abruptly cancelled, lol. Joe flew in, left the same day. One who think it was an emergency or something.
Flap away, toothless dog and gum away at my boots to your heart’s content. Your ignorance is only surpassed by your stupidity.
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“Madness.” Bridge on the River Kwai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwqy3c__Y0Q
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Good one! –
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/05/former-obama-administration-official-warrens-medicare-for-all-like-trying-to-buy-a-unicorn-with-a-unicorn/
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In a stunning blow to Trump…..
Whew….finally…..somebody else who can be added to the democrat presidential clown show!!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/elections-kentucky-mississippi-test-trump-s-political-power-n1075581
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Dr. R @237 –
I use aggregators like my yahoo feeds and Drudge just as much but if you look Breitbart is often using reports or statistics generated by others. Then you have BBC etc.
I don’t feel any responsibility for what the so called middle of the road fails to allow to get out and there is often heard mentality on what gets through the filters and I certainly have zero concern for the trolls who guzzled the koolaide and wait for baited breath for their talking points for lefties!
You have to play with the hand you are dealt.
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Would you take advice from this expert? She always lacked self awareness.
“Hillary Clinton advises Dems to choose 2020 nominee who can win Electoral College”
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Tucson AZ just became the first city in the US to decide for itself about sanctuary status by means of the ballot. The most Dem lib place in AZ with 50% Hispanic residents and they said “NO”. Blow that one out your asses, progs.
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Journalists……Hah!!
To paraphrase Instapundit – Think of them (journalists) as democrat operatives with bylines and it all begins to make sense.
https://twitter.com/CarpeDonktum/status/1191932394208727040
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