[On the face of it I am not in favor of withdrawing US troops from Syria, especially viz the Kurds. My own long-stated Rebane Doctrine is that the US must continue its role as the world's white hat policeman (hegemon) using responses and methods that will evolve with needs and time. But before we continue hyper-ventilating on the withdrawal, can someone cite the exact parameters of Trump's withdrawal announcement – e.g. is it more than pulling a few tens of troops back from the 20-mile buffer zone? gjr]

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432 responses to “Sandbox – 8oct19”
Mick Mulvaney. Wow. Whew. Trump is getting screwed deeper and deeper into the outhouse.
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Jig Wiggly | 17 October 2019 at 03:52 PM
Don’t care. But list his assets bub or get back under your bridge and stay quiet.
Jig Wiggly | 17 October 2019 at 04:16 PM
I listened to him and I did not take it the way the lying media did. I knew exactly what he meant. So try harder you moronic troll.
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Mulvaney also made a cleanup to his comments after seeing how the media twisted his words. Good job for him. Jiggy and Baroom and Paul Emery are now the resident warmongers here. Sad.
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“Cleanup of his comments” OMG! It’s called backtracking. Anyone would after listening to that testimony.
Regarding Elijah, you were the one proclaiming he made millions. List his assets, Bub. We don’t believe you. BTW change your socks. You look like a dweeb, Yes I saw you.
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No he cleaned it up and made it so morons like you might understand.
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And NO 4TH impeachment vote.. Queen Nan knows better Three ugly fails is more than enough.
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Todd
AS far as you’re being canned by Cabpro you should keep your mouth shut. Several of your colleagues on this poll know the truth and they are laughing at you as we speak. Give it up Todd.
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Did you support Clinton being impeached Walt?
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Name names Emery,, otherwise your full of shit,
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clarification 5:04
“colleagues on this blog”
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Todd – you continue responding to every jab that comes your way with the immediate and loud announcement that you “don’t care” about what others say. Yet, you’re the only one who seems to care – no one else does. Is there something wrong with this approach? What would it look like if you REALLY didn’t care?
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Hey Emery. How bout keeping to the present. If your talking about Hillary,,, YUP!
Forget Billy lied to investigators about being balls deep in an intern’s mouth? Forget he lost his law licence over the matter?
Did he or did he not LIE to the people on national TV?
Well if a BJ isn’t sexual relations,, try that with the Mrs. Emery. Tell us if she would agree with ya’.
LOL!!!!! That vary story is on FOX!! RIGHT NOW!!!!!
DAMN I’m good.
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Walt
In your view has Trump ever lied to the American people and was he lying when he said he didn’t have sex with Stormy the porn star or pay hush money to her?
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The pony tail of ignorance should just put ditto when he wants to say the same thing over and over. Maroon.
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I don’t give a shit Emrey. Did it happen oun OUR time? In the oval office? No.
I knew what and who I was voting for. And he’s delivered.
Unlike you, who refuses to even say who you are backing in the Russian mule race. Why is that Emery? You stand for nothing. So it’s pretty evident you will fall for anything.
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Where did jiggered BOOB go? Read it and cry.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/17/democrat-controlled-house-passed-bill-with-quid-pro-quo-on-election-interference/
Trump was doing exactly that.
“In the House version, all “United States persons” are prohibited “from engaging in transactions with, providing financing for, or in any other way dealing in Russian sovereign debt” after a certain date. That prohibition is lifted after the DNI can certify, within a certain timeframe, that “neither the Government of Russia, nor any person acting as an agent of or on behalf of that government, has knowingly engaged in interference in the most recent election for Federal office”; and after “Congress has passed a joint resolution certifying the determination” of the DNI.
In other words, the Democrat-controlled House would suspend transactions — both public and private — with Russia’s government until the U.S. can be satisfied that Russia had not interfered with the most recent federal election.
That is exactly what Mulvaney said Trump had wanted Ukraine to show, as part of its commitment to fighting corruption — namely, that it was not involved in documented efforts by the Democratic National Committee to use Ukraine to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.
Mulvaney said: “The look back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the things [President Trump] was worried about in corruption with that nation. That is absolutely appropriate.”
To Democrats and the media, it was a “quid pro quo” — and grounds for impeachment.”
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Emery!!! OOOOOOHHHHHH EMERY!!!!! Look what your favorite website has posted!!
https://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-attends-dallas-trump-rally-in-armored-vehicle/
“Infowars host Alex Jones rode into the Dallas Trump rally in an armored vehicle Thursday, using a bullhorn to shout warnings of a Deep State coup attempt against President Trump.”
Now lets see how fast Emery turns on his goto web page.
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WaLT WRITES
“Did it happen on OUR time? In the oval office? No.”
Yes he lied while he was in office Walt.
So you don’t care as to whether Trump lied to the American People while he is in office when he claimed over and over that he did not pay hush money to Stormy D or have sex with her.
As for Clinton I didn’t vote for him and believe he should have resigned from office.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 17 October 2019 at 05:51 PM
In your view has Trump ever lied to the American people and was he lying when he said he didn’t have sex with Stormy the porn star or pay hush money to her?
In your view ……..did you sustain a blow to the head sufficient to put you into perpetual re-runs?
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He lied? So abiding by a non disclosure agreement is a lie.
Nice try Emery. That dog don’t hunt. Still not impeachable. Try harder.
So a politician lied. Yet YOU voted for one who did.
Speaking of lies,, you have tossed out plenty of your own.
Who do you think you are? Izzy Warren? A Greek claiming to be Celtic.. Sound like a lie to me. How bout that Druid Buddhist crap from days gone by?
Look at the bright side Emery, Since you claimed to follow in Ben Franklin’s beliefs, you didn’t catch the same philanderer’s disease as the guy you admire. WOW.. Some womanizer to look up to there Emery. (The Bill Clinton of his day)
And YOUR the one who brought up the dirty dog Clinton.
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Posted by: Jig Wiggly | 17 October 2019 at 03:52 PM
You simply can’t bear the answer. A black liberal with multiple college degrees out performed you in every measurable way.
You too! At least he wasn’t forced to settle for journalism!
That would have been really embarrassing!
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fish-
Drinking hard already? Why would a successful lawyer become a journalist? Just wondering how your alleged mind works. You are really embarrassing!
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Jiggered says
“You simply can’t bear the answer. A black liberal with multiple college degrees out performed you in every measurable way.”
and still got his job through affirmative action. Grossly unqualified for the job.
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Well, many of us grew up believing politicians lie. It was a given. Probably heard it from our parents. Nothing new under the sun….until 2016, when only Trump lies! Odd. There IS something new under the Sun.
Daily Quotes time. Oh goody.
Insight: “Unjust laws exist: shall we be content to obey them, or shall we endeavor to amend them, and obey them until we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once?” —Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
The bottom line: “The chief problem is that the Kurds are our friends but not our legal allies. In contrast, the Turks are not really our friends anymore but are legal, treaty-bound allies.” —Victor Davis Hanson
For the record: “You’ve got millionaires arguing with millionaires over who hates the millionaires the most.” —Mike Rowe on the Democrat debate
Ouch: “You have a better chance of getting a fair justice system in China than you do in Speaker Pelosi’s movement here inside the House.” —House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy
Friendly fire: “[Elizabeth Warren] was more specific and forthcoming about the number of selfies she’s taken than about how [Medicare for All] is going to be funded.” —Pete Buttigieg in reference to Tuesday night’s debate
Hell hath frozen over: “Let’s put this in perspective: if you eliminate every single solitary soldier, tank, satellite, nuclear weapon, eliminate the Pentagon and it would only pay for 4 months of Medicare for All. 4 months. Where do the other 8 months come from? Your paycheck.” —Joe Biden
Good luck with that: “I think just as in any law that is not followed or flagrantly abused there have to be consequences or else there is no respect for the law. So in that case I think there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm and make sure that it is purchased, bought back, so that it cannot be potentially used against somebody else.” —Beto O’Rourke
Who needs free speech anyway? “[Trump] has lost his privileges and [his Twitter account] should be taken down…. [Social media outlets] are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation. And that has to stop.” —Sen. Kamala Harris
And last… “Kamala Harris owns a gun — but she doesn’t want you to own one. Bernie Sanders flies on private jets — but doesn’t want you to. Barack Obama is a multimillionaire — but doesn’t want you to be one. Elizabeth Warren picks her own doctors — but doesn’t want you to. See the pattern?” —Charlie Kirk
Bonus: Lizzy Spreading Bull scrubs the DNA test results from her site, roflmmao.
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The jiggly one protests too much while sounding like a disgraced unemployed journalist! LOL
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Posted by: Jig Wiggly | 17 October 2019 at 07:32
Why would a successful lawyer become a journalist?
EXACTLY! Why would anyone…..anyone who was capable of something, anything better.
Just sayin…..
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First it was Global Warming, then it became Climate Change. But, no more you ignorant hillbillies. It’s now Climate Crisis or Climate Emergency. Got that? Good. Next will probably be Climate Catastrophe, but I am getting ahead of the curve.
1.) “climate emergency” or “climate crisis” to be used instead of “climate change”
Climate change is no longer considered to accurately reflect the seriousness of the overall situation; use climate emergency or climate crisis instead to describe the broader impact of climate change. However, use climate breakdown or climate change or global heating when describing it specifically in a scientific or geophysical sense eg “Scientists say climate breakdown has led to an increase in the intensity of hurricanes”.
2.) “climate science denier” or “climate denier” to be used instead of “climate sceptic”
The OED defines a sceptic as “a seeker of the truth; an inquirer who has not yet arrived at definite conclusions”. Most “climate sceptics”, in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence, deny evidence, deny climate change is happening, or is caused by human activity, so ‘denier’ is more accurate.
3.) Use “global heating” not “global warming”
‘Global heating’ is more scientifically accurate. Greenhouse gases form an atmospheric blanket that stops the sun’s heat escaping back to space.
4.) “greenhouse gas emissions” is preferred to “carbon emissions” or “carbon dioxide emissions”. Although carbon emissions is not inaccurate, if we’re talking about all gases that warm the atmosphere, this term recognises all of the climate-damaging gases, including methane, nitrogen oxides, CFCs etc.
5.) Use “wildlife”, not “biodiversity”
We felt that ‘wildlife’ is a much more accessible word and is fair to use in many stories, and is a bit less clinical when talking about all the creatures with whom we share the planet.
6.) Use “fish populations” instead of “fish stocks”
This change emphasises that fish do not exist solely to be harvested by humans – they play a vital role in the natural health of the oceans.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/16/guardian-language-changes-climate-environment
So, Gregory, Dr. Rebane, Russ, and others are no longer Climate Septics, but outright deniers!
Sorry Fish. Nobody cares if you are referred to as Fish populations or Fish stocks. I refer fish sticks. :).
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Secretary Mattis lets loose “I earned my spurs on the battlefield; Donald Trump earned his spurs from the doctor”.
One quick cookie. No wonder Trump feared him.
“I’m the Meryl Streep of Generals”
Zing! Right off the jowls of el Trumpo.
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Posted by: Jig Wiggly | 17 October 2019 at 08:06 PM
Ugh…..! “Jowls”….really?
Oh jeffy….you bring me great joy!
……jowls
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Whatz next? Putin endorsing Bernie?
Obama endorses Justin Trudeau.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-endorses-justin-trudeau_n_5da75acfe4b062bdcb1cdc0e
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Paul Emery | 17 October 2019 at 05:04 PM
Don’t care.
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Todd 8:27-
Keone says you care. A lot.
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George
Trump said today”The Kurds are going to be happy”
How can you justify continuing supporting this mentally ill dangerous man?
“”Everybody agreed to things that three days ago they would have never agreed to — that includes the Kurds,” Trump said. “This is a situation where everyone is happy.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/pence-set-make-ceasefire-case-erdogan-after-release-tough-guy-n1067976
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Paul 8:47
Even ISIS is happy. “Praise be to Allah for showing us The Donald. Freedom at last. Time to kill more Americans.”
And of course Putin is happiest of all, aside from Trump himself who gets to keep his Hotel in Istanbul for letting the Turks have their way with our allies and their wives and girls.
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PaulE 847pm – Read my tagline on ‘Ruminations’.
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Well, ya’ gotta learn to fight your own battles sometime.
Gotta love the new warmongers here. Just the other day they were SO anti war. Trump gives what the demanded for years and now piss and moan about it.
So some of Obama’s spawn go free. Someone will declare OPEN SEASON on them soon enough. The Russians need the target practice.
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BTW shit for jiggers,,, the Turks are our allies too.
Funny how that plays out.
Those people have been killing each other for centuries.
All concerned about the poor Muslims.. But mass killings of Christians? Naaa,,,, no big deal in your book.
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Seems like a degree in rhetoric only generates poor quality fantasy. Idiots like that jiggly troll do not understand the dynamic nature of modern operations. We can touch anywhere in Syria we want when we want. We have an active air over watch and drones among other assets.
As if a couple of rented Trump brand name on some towers mattered in the real world. Have their way with their women, really. How stupid and ignorant.
We created the well equipped Kurdish light infantry and still support them logistically and with intelligence.
Everyone hates isis, Syria, turks, kurds, rooskies, us. They have nothing to show and the turks jihadis have been cut off by Syria.
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Looks like the global warming crazed, self hating mean girls have gone too far and are being called out hard. Will we see this kind of blow back against the socialist dem crazy at the ballot box? –
Extinction Rebellion has been criticised for comparing activists who climbed onto London Tube trains to stop them from running, with civil rights activist Rosa Parks.
In a now-deleted tweet, the official Extinction Rebellion Twitter account wrote: “Rosa Parks refused to move from the white section of the bus and our rebels refused to bequeath a dying planet to future generations by failing to #ActNow.
Campaigners climbed to the top of a tube train at Canning Town station with a ladder before they unfurled a banner reading “Business as usual = death” before furious commuters dragged them to the platform floor.
Meanwhile, another group of activists glued themselves to a DLR train.
Twitter users condemned XR for making the Rosa Parks comparison during Black History Month and disrupting public transport and thus, alienating “ordinary people” trying to make their way into work.
Disruption as a form of protest: good. Targeting working class workers using a green form of transport: bad. Invoking Rosa Parks whilst ignoring critique of your very white and racist tactics and rhetoric: truly awful,” another said.
One person tweeted: “Sorry… are you equating a bunch of middle class white people intentionally disrupting public transport in predominantly poor, working class, ethnic areas to – checks notes – a woman who helped pioneer the civil rights movement so black people could be seen as human beings?”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/extinction-rebellion-criticised-comparing-activists-rosa-parks-124929808.html
Perhaps we are seeing the rejection of the hard left socialist dem clown car. –
The same could not said for the rating. Snaring 8.3 million viewers, the shindig hosted by CNN and the New York Times finished as the second least-watched debate of the Democratic cycle. Last night’s three-hour run on the Jeff Zucker-led outlet was down 22% from the last time CNN hosted a Dems debate, back on July 31 in what was Night 2 of a two-part event. In fact, the only debate to do worse than last night and its record number of candidates was the first night of the last CNN-aired debate on July 30. That Sanders- and Warren-led campfire of 10 contenders snagged 8.2 million viewers for the WarnerMedia-owned outlet.
https://deadline.com/2019/10/elizabeth-warren-democratic-debates-ratings-down-cnn-pete-buttigieg-anderson-cooper-new-york-times-1202761661/
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toes 800pm
The phrase “sticks and stones, luv” comes to mind.
After my 2nd marriage ceremony (at the UC Berzerkeley botanical gardens), and after a number of really spectacular Mojitos at Skates on the Bay, my new stepson the younger (a hard leftie since his UC Santa Cruz days) asked me if I was a Skeptic and I assured him I was not… I’m a scoffer.
At this point, in the first year of the Zharkova Minimum, the Guardian (and their boytoy, Moonbot) can call me anything they want.
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Weak governments allow rampant crime and lawlessness and we are starting to see that flesh eating virus of leftist governance in our shit hole big cities.
This is what you will find down that road of corruption and rot –
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – Heavily armed cartel fighters surrounded security forces and made them free one of drug lord Joaquin ‘El Chapo’ Guzman’s sons, whose brief apprehension triggered intense gunbattles across the city of Culiacan.
Security Minister Alfonso Durazo said a patrol by National Guard militarized police first came under attack from within a house in the city, 600 km (370 miles) northwest of Mexico City.
After entering the house, they found four men including Ovidio Guzman, who is accused of drug trafficking in the United States.
The patrol was quickly overpowered by cartel gunmen, however, and the decision was taken to withdraw to protect the lives of the National Guard and restore calm in the city, where gangsters had set up roadblocks and were unleashing heavy automatic gunfire, Durazo said.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexican-media-reports-capture-druglord-000124184.html
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Hey Bill Tozer,
Paul Emery was exactly right today in his comments about you. You really are a despicable human piece of garbage in how you talked about Elijah Cummings, a good and great man you will never be. I understand you’re the bastard son born of a corrupt daddy, a little man leading a life of no distinction and no love. And we who dwell in Nevada City know all about your offspring. Oh man do we ever.
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What you get from all the socialist shit holes in the world banding together at the UN with likely support from the entrenched swamp creatures at state. Especially the ones who flipped from appointed to GS in the last days of team 0. You know when they were weaponizing the spooks against the president elect. Clapper, Brennen et al. flushed the leadership and put in sycophant’s. Just the way they fired all the flag officers at the pentagon who did not play ball with 0 and had tried to have a voice. –
https://www.yahoo.com/news/uproar-venezuela-wins-seat-un-rights-council-195650923.html
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Trump’s rally was great last night. 20,000 inside, 30,000 outside. Energized and supportive. And no matter the issue those people were tuned in. The clown car occupants including the lefty clowns here are quaking in their boots. The wipeout will be monumental. Trump 2020.
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Don @ 11:51 pm
I see your Venezuela on the UN Human Rights Council and raise you one Mauritania. 🙂
“Mauritania, the west African nation where slavery remains a widespread practice, is expected to be voted on to the United Nations’ Human Rights Council on Thursday……
“While the Mauritanian government officially denies that slavery is ongoing in the country, Mauritanian watchdog groups allege that one out of every two members of the country’s Haratine ethnic minority group are enslaved, and that as many as 20% of the population is enslaved. The exact number of slaves within the country is unclear, and estimates range from 90,000 to 500,000. The Global Slavery Index estimates more than 140,000 people are currently enslaved in the country.
“The report singled out Mauritania for its history of corruption, ethnic discrimination by government actors, slavery, human trafficking, child labor, and criminalization of homosexuality. The country’s current president, Mohamed Ould Ghazouani, was elected in June of this year despite reports of irregularities in the voting process. The country’s internet was shut down to quell protests that erupted after the elections.
“In addition to slavery, Mauritania is subject to a range of other human rights concerns. The United Nations estimates that over one third of Mauritanian women are married before they reach the age of 18, and female genital mutilation is commonplace. Sex outside of marriage is not legal in the country, and women who were raped can face prosecution if they report their assault to the
police.”
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/un-set-to-elect-slave-state-to-human-rights-committee-36310
Sounds like a real Shithole. Not all cultures are equal, roflmao. Not the country, the UN.
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Time to bring back corporal punishment?
“A black high school security guard was fired after the school said he violated their zero-tolerance policy for using the N-word when he told a student not to call him the N-word.
“Marlon Anderson, a security assistant at Madison West High School in Wisconsin, said he got called a “bit@# @ss N—-” by a student and responded do “not call me n—-!” The school then fired him.”
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You think?? Nah, say it ain’t so.
“Gloria Reyes, the school board president, said the school board will “review our approach, the underlying policies, and examine them with a racial equity lens understanding that universal policies can often deepen inequities.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/black-high-school-security-guard-fired-for-telling-student-not-to-call-him-the-n-word
Yep, just like BLM marching down the streets of Washington DC chanting “What do we want? Dead Cops! When do we want them? Now!” and Obama invites them to the White House. That will unite Americans, for sure.
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For those of you who follow the Michael Flynn case:
“The timing of the Italy trip, Powell’s motion, and her assertion that the government only recently came into possession of Mifsud’s two smartphones, all suggest Barr and Durham returned stateside with the evidence—something a serious investigation into potential Russia collusion back in 2016 would have already looked at.
“It would be an impossibility for our government to cordially obtain Mifsud’s smartphones if he were truly a Russian agent. If he were, he’d not hand over his smartphones to the United States or allow the Italian government to do so.”
https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/17/why-it-matters-that-sidney-powell-wants-data-from-joseph-mifsuds-smartphones/
That Sidney Powell is one sharp anti-corruption-in-government cookie. And Margot Cleveland is one sharp legal analyst.
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Don’t Be Surprised If Trump Is Never Impeached
An impeachment that seemed inevitable a few days ago is looking more and more like it may never happen.
“The bottom line is this. Once the gavel falls on an actual impeachment, the House, the only chamber the Democrats hold, becomes irrelevant. That is a political disaster, and it is why the Democrats are still very unlikely to actually pull that trigger.”
https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/17/dont-be-surprised-if-trump-is-never-impeached/
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From Trump’s buddy
Mocking American war heroes, betraying allies, joking about kids fighting as kids are dying, and willfully fueling impeachment… this has been Trump’s worst week and he only has himself to blame
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7588483/PIERS-MORGAN-President-Trumps-worst-week-blame.html
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Oh come on that’s for the little people we are the ruling elites now get out of the way I am late for the airport! –
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/10/18/green-new-deal-update-democrats-spend-big-on-private-flights/
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