[Interesting discussion from the last sandbox on Baltimore, shithole cities, and the misguided attack on Kushner and other investors in companies willing to provide housing in crime and drug infested ghettos. The simple-minded accuse such investors of being "slumlords" with the same logic that investors (like me) can be accused of causing the opioid epidemic by investing in pharma companies or killing women and children in the mid-east wars by investing in defense industries. Go figger. gjr]
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292 responses to “Sandbox – 2aug19”
Posted by: Paul Emery | 05 August 2019 at 11:06 AM
Punch….people yell lots of things at public gatherings. Rumor has it that you’re some sort of musician…..I’m sure that you’ve heard all sorts of things from the audience.
Again….this is just another pathetic attempt of yours to hold Trump responsible for something he precisely zero control over.
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Posted by: Scott O | 05 August 2019 at 11:07 AM
I didn’t say things weren’t getting worse….they are….on multiple levels. That said, Twitter can be just as biased as it pleases on its platform.
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Posted by: Bill Tozer | 05 August 2019 at 08:54 AM
Bill there actually is a term for the thinking you described above, it is “eco-fascism.” Groups or individuals who follow the thinking; eco-fascists. Eco-fascism goes back a long way–to the early 1960’s and a line of European proponents who blended green theology with authoritarianism and totalitarianism.
Eco-fascism is a political system where a totalitarian government would require individuals to sacrifice their own interests to the “organic whole of nature” and which would rely on militarism and expansionism to control resources and allow less fortunate people to starve to reduce the pressure on resources.
There is a growing attempt amongst some European far right political parties like La Pen’s National Front, the right wing Alternative for Germany, a set of groups in Finland who follow deep ecology, and some American far right leaders like Richard Spencer, to link environmentalism and white ethno-nationalism as a means of creating a broad enough identity based coalition to challenge for real political power.
So let’s be clear…eco-fascism is fascism….it is antithetical to democrat values, it is inherently racist, it is against individual liberty, it is anti-human in its prescriptions. It is a bastardization of some of the ideas of environmentalism used to manipulate people into fascism. Eco-fascism is a morally reprehensible construct and should be completely rejected by environmental proponents as such.
There is almost no link between members of the main stream environmental community and eco-fascism (regardless of Rush Limbaugh’s love of the term), but it is also important for main stream pro environmental protection voices like mine to explicitly reject this movement. I am happy to do so.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 05 August 2019 at 11:11 AM
Punch….there is nothing that Trump can utter that you don’t believe is worthy of impeachment.
To that end…..have you been burning up the phone lines putting steel in the spines of democrat legislators? Apparently Pelosi is inching up on the critical number.
Let us know how things are progressing!
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Fish
Show me where I used the word “impeachment” in this thread.
So do you believe Trumps response is appropriate to the “joke” as you refer to it?
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 05 August 2019 at 11:26 AM
Show me where I used the word “impeachment” in this thread.
You don’t….you use it in every other Trump centered thread.
So do you believe Trumps response is appropriate to the “joke” as you refer to it?
What…. That Trump saying that the only place some yahoo yelling “shoot them” could get away with it is the Florida panhandle. Looks like he got away with it now doesn’t it Punch. I mean there was no fuss raised until this weekend. And there wouldn’t have been if there hadn’t been any gunplay!
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fish – you are correct about Twitter’s right to be biased, but they have no right to lie about their terms of service. Even if a service is ‘free’, contractual obligations apply.
Of course – good luck ever getting a judgement on that basis.
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So you must believe his response to be appropriate Fish. You sure don’t state otherwise.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 05 August 2019 at 11:58 AM
I don’t play “Uncle Punchys Super Happy Fun Time Gotcha Question Game” Palooka…..you know that!
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No Paul, it doesn’t mean that. Do you realize how juvenile acting you are when you play these stupid games?
Grow up.
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Frisch 1115 says in part
“There is almost no link between members of the main stream environmental community and eco-fascism (regardless of Rush Limbaugh’s love of the term), but it is also important for main stream pro environmental protection voices like mine to explicitly reject this movement. I am happy to do so. ”
Say what? The manifesto guy says there is. And all your rhetoric on the demise on the planet fuels these loons to go shoot up malls. You need to stop denying you and your industries part in murder and the violence you create with your policies and words. Get some balls and admit it.
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Posted by: Scott O | 05 August 2019 at 12:07 PM
Do you realize how juvenile acting you are when you play these stupid games?
He’s just LARPing Matlock episodes Scott…..it’s OK, it keeps him busy and is mostly harmless.
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FISH, didn;t that dirtbag that murdered the troops in Texas under Obama rule screen out ALLAH AKBAR? And the prick is still breathing. Paul Emery tell us all why you support that guy yelling that term in a American Army base?
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Todd
Show me where I supported the shooter referred to in your 12:15. I never expressed support. You made that up which makes you a liar.
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fish, one more chance. It’s simple, yes or no.
Do you believe Trumps response is appropriate to the “joke” as you refer to it?
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No you are the liar Paul Emery
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The day Joe Biden lost the nomination and passed quietly into private life.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-05/senior-moments-biden-offers-condolences-tragic-events-houston-and-michigan-trump
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The peoples republic of cali –
The California Education Department’s model Ethnic Studies Curriculum plans to teach children capitalism is a “system of power” and “oppression,” equal to “white supremacy,” “patriarchy,” and “racism.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/05/ethnic-studies-curriculum-will-teach-children-capitalism-equal-to-racism-and-oppression/
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 05 August 2019 at 12:21 PM
Do you think it’s appropriate Punch?
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Steve @ 11:15 am
I had “eco-fascism” originally as the one and only term to label I could think of. “They don’t neatly fit into a Right-Left paradigm.” But, I immediately took out the term eco-fasicts because that does not quite fit either, IMHO.
To me the eco-fascists where the ones spiking trees with metal spikes to injure the guys in the lumber mills, burning down via arson housing tracts under construction, destroying new cars in dealerships’ parking lots. That kind of thing. A good time to point out that the first domestic terrorism group identified as such by the FBI were the Eco-Terrorists.
In my mind the eco-fascist label is inadequate and did not capture all the moving parts. The Back to Earth movement/fad, generally considered far left, but is just one of, all the moving parts. When I hear eco or greenies, I generally think lf the Left. But open borders and such don’t fit into the manifestos. Eco-fascists will do in a pinch or until a new term emerges.
I will have to sleep on it. I just do not see a big White Nationalist movement (wave) emerging. Yes, hate crimes are on the rise, but I just don’t see this as the tip of the iceberg or a movement spreading from sea to sea. The reporting is on the rise, but it could be someone flipping someone off a pedestrian while driving down the street. Even the Jussie Smollett case goes as a hate crime in the books because it was reported. Goes by reporting, not validity. But, that’s a distracting side issue. The shooting was real.
We should expect move incidents of violence as a natural outcome of inflamed passions. Some are going to blow their tops. That is as old as man himself.
All in all, I see White Supremes like eco-terrorists on the fringes and will remain there. Most murders are committed in the heat of passion, and the weapon does not really matter.
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Todd writes:
“Paul Emery tell us all why you support that guy yelling that term in a American Army base?”
Show me where I supported him Todd. Simple. You must have some documentation before you would make that accusation. A simple quote from me will do.
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The reason is simple. Your are giddy that your enemy Trump is somehow in your mind connected to these loons. Tha makes you complicit in the murders.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 05 August 2019 at 12:31 PM
What are you so Butthurt about Punch? Todd is just clumsily saying in his (05 August 2019 at 12:15 PM) the same kind of thing that you are clumsily implying in most of your posts on this thread.
So….do you think Trumps response to the thing yelled was appropriate?
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Breaking News! 56 shot, 4 fatalities. Details to come…or maybe not.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chicago-gun-violence-56-shot-this-weekend-four-killed/?fbclid=IwAR2mNMXbSrK4UueNHUH6aISttJEM2kk2jZBSCj1KdT2DpwhbmR_KZauuUz8
Pound on whitey. Everything on the news is pound on whitey. Whitey, whitey, whitey. That is all the news, all the time. Whitey is racist. Whitey, whitey, whitey. Y-T is racist.
https://m.facebook.com/Breitbart/photos/a.10159587164165354/10163395778615354/?type=3&theater
https://m.facebook.com/Breitbart/photos/a.10159587164165354/10163396322830354/?type=3&theater
https://m.facebook.com/Breitbart/photos/a.10159587164165354/10163402391955354/?type=3&theater
If the rhetoric does not cease that has been a established mantra for months on end that “YT is bad” and all the problems/troubles of people’s miserable lives are ALL Whitey’s fault, you are going to see a bunch more shootings. The race baiters and race hustlers can only pound relentlessly on YT for so long until someone opens the window and yells out, “I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it any more”
The flames are being fanned. Young white boys are taught they are wrong and guilty for so many of society’s ills simply because of the color of their skin. Because of the color of their skin and because they were born with a penis. Let that sink in.
Stop with the racism. The media needs to tone down their anti-white racist rhetoric. Walk it back. It is going to led to more violence and creates hate. Hate is the end result, not inclusiveness or unity.
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Posted by: Bill Tozer | 05 August 2019 at 01:18 PM
Pound on whitey. Everything on the news is pound on whitey. Whitey, whitey, whitey. That is all the news, all the time. Whitey is racist. Whitey, whitey, whitey. Y-T is racist.
Wow Bill….it’s like you’ve inadvertently penned some sort of Frischian anthem……the song that America has been clamoring for!
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Pick a card, any card. Just briefly scroll to and see what I mean.
ABC decides that Trump needs to address mass shooting he caused. He caused everything, including the next hurricane.
https://news.grabien.com/
Pick a card, any card. Trump promotes White Nationalism!
https://www.newsbusters.org/
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fish question:
“So….do you think Trumps response to the thing yelled was appropriate?”
No. Trump treated it like a joke with his sarcastic response. If you bothered to watch the video the shoon em response was after Trump was expressing frustration about what to do with the increase of illegal border entries so the shouter responded as if that was his solution. That sh ould have resulted in a response from Trump with harsh words to the effect we, as Americans don’t do things like that. Instead he played along with the sick and demented joke as you refer to it.
That’s my response. What’s yours?
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sp shoot um
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 05 August 2019 at 01:41 PM
Actually Punch, that’s not the worst response you’ve ever offered!
I don’t agree with it but it’s an honest response. I get the use of “humor” in those sorts of situations. You don’t like it but what’s Trump going to do….publicly take “Florida Man” to the woodshed? At a campaign event where illegal immigration is an issue and thousands of illegal migrants are pouring across the border?
Your naiveté is adorable!
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Socialist Party of America Convention, Part 2. Doubling down on crazy. 1 min 9 sec.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=56&v=izTEJFHA0WQ
Best tweet about the Young Socialists of America Convention:
“This may have been the first convention in history where no one got laid.”
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CLumsily I guess Paul Eemry cannot accept his part in the murders. Oh well.
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Ride ’em cowboy. Eat this, vegheads.
https://www.facebook.com/551620308660281/posts/559482744540704/
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Opps, try this link
https://news.grabien.com/story-vegans-protest-rodeo-argentina-cowboys-run-them-using-horses
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Eating their own –
CNN’s Jake Tapper fired back Monday at “Squad” member Rep. Rashida Tlaib after she ripped him over comments he made Sunday on “State of the Union.”
Tapper was discussing the tone of leaders amid the tragic mass shooting in El Paso, Texas when he said something that apparently bothered Tlaib.
“You hear conservatives all the time, rightly so in my opinion, talk about the tone set by people in the Arab world. Palestinian leaders and the way they talk about Israelis… justifying,” Tapper said. “You can’t compare the ideology of Hamas with anything else. But at the same time, either tone matters or it doesn’t.”
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-jake-tapper-rashida-tlaib
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OH NO they recognized the reality, finally!
Updated 08/05/2019 06:05 PM EDT
UPDATE:
The Trump administration designated China as a currency manipulator, ratcheting up its trade war by slapping the world’s No. 2 economy with a label no U.S. president has used since 1994.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/05/trump-blasts-china-yuan-drop-as-currency-manipulation-1634502
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Just so its clear –
Reporters tracked down Ohio shooter Connor Betts’ Twitter account and it was filled with support for Democrat presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren, pleas for gun control, and loud support for socialism, among other left-wing ideas.
In one tweet, for instance, Betts wrote, “I want socialism, and I’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come around to understanding.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/05/cardi-b-calls-leftist-dayton-shooter-white-
supremacist-who-targeted-minorities/
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/08/05/twitter-account-allegedly-linked-to-ohio-shooter-retweeted-doxxing-of-ice-employees/
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We knew that was coming –
Four voters in California, along with the conservative transparency group Judicial Watch, announced Monday they have filed a federal lawsuit against the left-wing state, alleging its new law aimed at strong-arming President Trump into releasing his income tax returns is patently unconstitutional.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-sued-over-law-blocking-trump-from-ballot-unless-he-releases-tax-returns
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Pelline has a new attack on mass shootings. He posts a WAPO article that says the shootings are in state or cities that had Trump rallies. This is too funny. Now I thought Pelline had a little bit of brain but this shows me he doesn’t. Good thing Trump never held a rally in Chicago or Baltimore. You cannot make this stuff up. Pelline is a deranged nutty leftist. He and Frisch should go help those poor saps in Chicago. LOL!
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,,,old Magoo McConnell always tries to weasel out of talking about guns,,,
https://tinyurl.com/y4nhha4e
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Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 05 August 2019 at 04:05 PM
jeffty never had an spontaneous thought that wasn’t somehow associated with…..mmmmmmm Ho Ho’s!
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Three kinds of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics 😂😂
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In the “how stupid can you get’ dept. Obvious simpleton, Mike Huckabee said in reference to mass shootings, “I would posit that the lack of thought and prayers is probably the single biggest factor in what is behind them.” I guess easy access to assault rifles and lax background checks have little to do with it. If only we all just prayed more it would all go away. Every time there is a mass murder all the republicans have to say is “thoughts and prayers thoughts and prayers”as they wonder when their campaign donation is coming from the NRA, Colt, and Winchester. #SAD
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AV Dude – “,,,old Magoo McConnell always tries to weasel out of talking about guns,,,”
And what are they going to talk about?
What does this have to do with the El Paso shootings?
Other than the Dems screaming and yelling and pounding on the table?
I notice you leftys that post here won’t talk about it.
I’ve asked for specific legislation that would have prevented these mass shootings and you come up with nothing.
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“lax background checks” – Yeah we were told background checks would do it and now it turns out they don’t. But the folks that were wrong then, are now the ones that are going to tell us what to do? How about listening to those who were correct?
So now we’re gonna have super-duper background checks.
How is that going to work?
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BoobieC 547
You missed the point totally. It is all about ethics and morality. About the nuclear family. Having a dad in the house to teach right and wrong. You godless liberals just don’t understand the basics of human interaction or even civilization. Sad.
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,,,Mullah Trump’s fatwas are taking effect,,,more white supremacist violence occurring in cities Trump has campaigned in.
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so Todd, what are we to do with those who do not have ” a dad in the house to teach right and wrong?” So, We just let them keep killing and send our thought and prayers to the victim’s families? And what kind of families are those without a dad, what are their demographics, are they white (most of them), poor, rich, republicans, democrats, nazis?
“You godless liberals just don’t understand the basics of human interaction or even civilization.” And you do and that is why you support liar, rapist, adulterer, racist, mobster Donald trump.. because he is such a moral man and a good Christian.
in the “how stupid can you get’ dept.– Todd, every time he touches a keyboard or opens his mouth..
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BTW, Todd. .”Having a dad in the house to teach right and wrong.” sounds like you think single mothers are incapable as parents and are unable to teach right and wrong to their children.. that only men, (most likely white republican Christian men like yourself) are capable of raising good citizens…pretty far fetched don’t you think as a guiding principle?
misogyny: “dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women” — is this why you have been married so many times. Once they figured you out they all got tired of your crap and left.
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Wow. Mr. Cross discards a faithful citizenry with a moral foundation as a cure to these instances. One could easily posit, as Todd has, that such shootings are a direct result of liberal policies and progressive ideas to eliminate faith from society. Mr. Cross should look in the mirror and therein he will find his bogey man.
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Cross – the facts and statistics and reasons are overwhelming. Children from broken families are far more prone to emotional and behavioral problems later in life. Young men coming from a family where the father is absent are far more apt to be violent and have anti-social behavior. This has nothing to do with hating women. It’s called reality. You can yell and scream and jump up and down but the numbers are way too clear.
That said, we have an existing problem. The guns are out there and you are not going to confiscate them. You teach impressionable young men that morality is relative. That killing innocent human life is a “choice”. The govt rewards law breakers based on skin color. Young American white males are told they are bad people simply because they exist. There is an ever reduced outlet for natural male aggression.
Trump has nothing to do with these problems and getting rid of him won’t help one bit. Getting rid of our Constitutional Rights will not help one bit. The trouble has been brewing for decades and now we see the results. The American left has been on the wrong side of everything I’ve mentioned.
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