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[Interesting discussion from the last sandbox on Baltimore, shithole cities, and the misguided attack on Kushner and other investors in companies willing to provide housing in crime and drug infested ghettos.  The simple-minded accuse such investors of being "slumlords" with the same logic that investors (like me) can be accused of causing the opioid epidemic by investing in pharma companies or killing women and children in the mid-east wars by investing in defense industries.  Go figger.  gjr]

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  1. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Robert Cross | 05 August 2019 at 06:23 PM
    Every post you make shows all that you have no clue about anything/ Single motherhood is a travesty to the culture and has been since you liberals had mommas marry the government under the Great Society. Look at Chicago. The murders are black gang member kids against each other. No dad’s there to stop the carnage. Women need to stop popping kids without a dad. But you liberals passed the laws for all this carnage to take place and now cry that we who point out your failures are the problem Doesn’t wash anymore BoobieC. As Barry said, you need to look in the mirror for the reasons these things happen. It is all on you and your ilk.

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  2. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    Todd, cheating on then dumping three wives (and how many children involved?) and then spewing on about morals and fatherless children is beyond revulsive and repugnantly hypocritical. He has plumbed a new low here on the pages of Rebane. And all of you consider him a friend?? You can judge a man by the company he keeps and you have been judged by your company.

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  3. Scott O Avatar

    Don 3:51 – “In their federal complaint, the plaintiffs call the law an unprecedented attempt by a state to add additional qualifications for the presidency.”
    OK, here we go – let’s see how this plays out.

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    As previously stated, the gun bill that passed the House in March would not have spared Gabby from getting plugged. Her shooter would have passed the background check she so diligently promoted.
    This refusal to state the obvious that the shooters bear all the blame is ludicrous. The need to blame anyone but the shooter and put all the blame on something else is a phenomenon of human nature. Maybe it is a need to understand evil. To try to make sense of it all.
    Oh, we can try to understand. But can any of us ever understand the dark evil that some possess in their minds? Their souls? Within themselves? Can you really wrap your head around pure evil? Pure evil? I hope not. I will go out on a limb and say nobody really can. In a large nation of 330 million people, it is beyond certain that there are a few walking around carrying Pure Evil in their beings….an evil we can only try to understand but not really comprehend.
    I don’t buy into any imaginable scenario that Trump is in any way responsible for the shooters actions. No even a possibility. Absurd. Unless, of course, you want to blame all the mass shootings in the last 30 years on someone besides the shooter. Obama is to blame for a single one? Nonsense. Actually, saying Trump is responsible for this in any way, shape, or form is shameful. You have to tell yourself some big whoopers to try to believe that fish story. But, you can’t shame the Lefty sociopaths. Some are psychopaths. They all, with few exceptions, are some fucked up people. The depths of their depravity knows no bounds. Maybe they can relate to the mass murderers where we cannot.
    We know so little about the human brain. Brain mapping currently can not tell us where evil resides nor where good resides. Anti-bullying campaigns, red flag warnings, more money towards mental illness will help. Most who are prone to violence and fit the profile will never be involved with murder, not to mention taking a rifle and go hunting for humans downtown or at the mall.
    States can pass some cosmetic laws, mess with waiting limits and background checks, but at the end of the day nothing will really change. Not really.
    Anybody want to talk about Dayton? Or, have we removed beyond that all ready. Gilroy? The kids are selling lemonade on the sidewalks to raise money for the victims. Even the mayor. They suspended the no lemonade stand ban and homemade signs are popping up in front yards. Pulling together.
    We cannot even have a discussion of solutions to mass shootings as long as it’s all Trump’s fault and Trump is a racist and now, like clockwork, all gun owners are BAD. I can see and smell and feel the daggers in their eyes glaring at ALL gun owners with anger. Beyond contempt. Seething glares. It’s all our fault. We got caught up in their net again.
    Nothing will change, not really

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  5. Scott O Avatar

    I see we still have nothing from the left as to specific legislation to prevent mass slaughter in our country.
    Still no proof that Trump is a racist.
    Still no proof that would rebut the fact that our largest population Hell-hole cities are all run by Democrats.
    Waiting…

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  6. Scott O Avatar

    BT 7:19 – The Russia thingie kinda blew up in their face, the economy has been far better for non-whites than anything Obama could ever do.
    Their own people were telling the Dems they were blowing it.
    Along comes a gift from God.
    Oh Goody – he’s white and shot a bunch of not-whites!!
    They will play this to the end.
    They haven’t got anything else.

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Robert Cross.
    Look. You have an argument you cannot defend. There are 40 year long studies by the likes of the Atlantic and hundreds more that show without a doubt that kids raised in single parent homes are at a disadvantage. Whites, blacks, all across the board. More likely to dropout of high school, involved in crime, have bad relationships themselves, drugs, incarcerated, likely to be on welfare themselves, etc. Girls are more likely to get knocked up earlier and on and on it goes. Education levels. There is not one measure that is even close to saying that having a two parent household makes no difference.
    With that said, here is another fact. Nobody can parent like the mother. Her touch, caring, nurturing, words, devotion…it’s in her DNA. The mother does it better and puts in more time.
    Now the unfair part, which is no reflection on the single mom or mom: Nobody can parent like the mothers, but the father has more influence on the child. I know, it’s not fair. Dad’s have more influence on the kids lives going and continues into adulthood….but the mothers do it better. Even deadbeat dads have an influence.

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  8. Scott O Avatar

    Say – the National Review put out a real winner of an essay –
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/declare-war-on-white-nationalist-terrorism/
    Ah – so now we declare “WAR”.
    Money quote – ” It means treating online white-nationalist radicals exactly the way we treat online jihadist sympathizers.”
    Oh – you mean elect them to Congress?
    Even the NR gets into spittle blowing and nonsense.
    Read the whole thing – it looks like the NR is approving of the Hoover FBI.
    Look folks- your chances of getting shot dead tomorrow aren’t any different than they were a month ago or a year ago or whatever.
    There are all sorts of things that have a better chance to kill you and you don’t give a shit about them.
    If you are really worried about getting shot, then go out and get a fire arm and learn how to properly use it.
    But no, let’s just lose our freaking minds and run around like chickens with our heads cut off.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    The blame game works both ways.
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/05/ohio-candice-keller-blame-liberals-dayton-shooting/
    “Following a shooting in Ohio, state representative Candice Keller blamed liberal causes, such as “homosexual marriage” and “open borders,” for the violence.”
    Not sure how homos come into play,, but whatever works.

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    BillT you have it right.
    Jiggly Smiggly, why do you think you know me? That cracks me up. A troll and pedophile like you trashing someone is just too funny.

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scott @ 7:33 pm
    Yep, their quiver is empty, no ideas to be found, and they only thing they have is to get people to vote against the other guy. Can’t get traction with getting people to vote for them of their own merits, so it’s always trying to get people to vote against the other guy. They reach back for their old standby without a second thought and hurl the epithet “racist” like they are on zombies on autopilot. But we know better.
    I was thinking that the word racism is getting so overused and twisted into a pretzel that maybe we should go back to “prejudice” for a while for a refreshing break and keep things from getting stale. Opps, too late. It’s beyond stale. It’s almost petrified. What is needed here is like when NFL teams wear throwback jerseys for a game. Variety is the spice of live, and boy do the Leftinistas need something different than racist. How about Prejudice Thursdays or maybe the last week of every month. They already blew through fascist and beat that one into dust. That was quick. But, it’s still all gets old.
    The optimist sees the half glass of water as half full, the pessimist sees the glass as half empty, and the Lefties see the glass as racist.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/50188/trump-supporters-push-back-we-are-all-tired-being-james-barrett?
    https://www.facebook.com/TakeBackThisCountry/photos/a.1032125603520777/2304655339601124/?type=3&theater

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  12. Walt Avatar

    And a little something for our Commiecrats. See what you missed?
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/05/democratic-socialist-convention/
    “Footage from this weekend’s 2019 Democratic Socialists of America National Convention showed multiple instances of unproductive back-and-forths.
    Attendees at the convention, which lasted from Friday to Sunday, were told not to speak to police officers, “MAGA assholes” or members of the press who did not show the proper credentials.
    “Don’t talk to cops. Don’t talk to MAGA assholes. … If you do see someone talking to cops, let the marshals know,” one speaker said.
    That was just one order given to attendees at the convention. Another speaker admonished the audience for allowing someone to use gendered language by referring to the room as “guys.” (RELATED: Democratic Socialists Convention Erupts Into ‘Woke-Off’ Over Gendered Language)
    “Point of personal privilege,” the audience member said into a microphone. “Please do not use gendered language to address everyone!”
    Even voices from the left made fun of the wasted time at the Democratic Socialists of America convention.
    “Seems like this DSA convention was a really fun time with lots of laughter and merriment,” Ben Dreyfuss of Mother Jones wrote Sunday on Twitter with a link to a video from the convention where members of the audience complained.”

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Don. Somewhere,, Emery is weeping.

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  14. Walt Avatar

    Has jiggers turned in his guns yet?

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The now famous Socialists of America Convention, Part 3.
    Democratic Socialist Convention Forced To Communicate Via Interpretive Dance To Avoid Offending Any Attendees
    “But the complaints began to roll in from attendees anyway.
    “Eventually, one attendee, who identifies as an owlbear, stood up and bellowed into a microphone, “POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE: LANGUAGE ITSELF REPRESENTS SPECIES SUPREMACY AND IS VERY TRIGGERING TO ME,” threatening the entire convention. After a brief pantomimed discussion, conference organizers came up with a solution: they would just use interpretative dance.
    “Conference speakers then gave speeches calling for the death of capitalism and the seizure of the means of production entirely by coordinated dance numbers. One particularly powerful dance entitled “The Blood Flows from the Animal Farm and It Is Delicious” had dancers reenact the Bolshevik Revolution. It would have garnered a standing ovation, but standing is considered ableism, so it only got jazz hands. Then a man without hands performed a scathing solo dance routine to inform everyone that jazz hands were very triggering to him. Everyone tried to apologize with sign language but only made things worse.
    “Finally, the convention was brought to a standstill when a white girl said dancing in rhythm with a song was offensive to her culture.”
    https://babylonbee.com/news/democratic-socialists-forced-to-communicate-via-interpretative-dance-to-avoid-offending-any-attendees?

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Roberta Cross | 05 August 2019 at 05:47 PM
    Probably best if we just let Roberta just work it out on her own.
    #PMS

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  17. Scott O Avatar

    Don at 8:45 – The cops will suddenly find it everywhere. Remember – the state of California is now in the dope business and they don’t like interlopers. The situation went from “MJ is bad” to “folks that grow MJ that don’t pay us first” is bad.
    The state is operating like the mob.
    Can’t blame them.
    I doubt the mob ever went into debt like the state does.

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @9:58 pm
    #PMS
    Kamala says “No more thoughts and prayers.” Cease. It’s about time. That really puts them over the edge and into a Addicted to Rage free fall. The pocket sock puppets that grace this site get all bug-eyed and livid when they hear “thoughts and prayers.” Guess I ain’t telling ya anything new.
    Hmmm. Banning thoughts is soooo them. They relish the thought of censoring thoughts.
    https://medium.com/@KamalaHarris/no-more-thoughts-and-prayers-a485a51718f6

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    And let’s not forget about no more prayers. Bobbie had a good day after all. And so did Jiggles and Stevie. And Ozz and Rock Humper. Especially the last two. And Stevie. Ok, all of them. Even Dougski can get aboard no more of those religious thinking and prayers. At least not those kind of utterances of hope and support for the victims and their loved ones.
    I suppose we can get Marianne to throw so metaphysical love and comfort the victims way, if that is still allowed. Don’t know. Best ask permission from our moral superiors. Might be a wait. They look too busy doing stuff like blaming YT and calling Trump a White Nationalist promoter of racial strife and pounding their chests, all the while standing on the backs on the fallen to elevate themselves to look and feel taller.

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  20. Bill Toze Avatar
    Bill Toze

    It’s who they are. I can feel the love from here.
    http://dlvr.it/R9kt0Z

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  21. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    As bad as El Paso was, that’s a typical weekend in Chicago and nobody blinks. That’s disgusting and racist.
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/05/chicago-weekend-shootings/

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  22. AVMan Avatar
    AVMan

    ,,,President Mullah Trump’s fatwas against this or that have been paying dividends as his jihadi believers head out to do his bidding against the Great Satan Hispanics,,,wormy lipped nerds looking for ”’rock star”’ fame.

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 5:58. Good morning.
    Chicago shootings are 5 minute stories. Baltimore stories, infrequent to non-existent as they were before last week, will disappear and nothing will be done except a few more billions lost to corruption and graft as the murder rates climbs to unacceptable levels. Or to levels now deemed acceptable or not newsworthy.
    From the aftermath of the Parkland School shooting.
    “Farrell’s explanation about how masculinity can be a force for good or for evil is enormously instructive. “Without dads as role models, boys’ testosterone is not well channeled. The boy experiences a sense of purposelessness, a lack of boundary enforcement, rudderlessness, and often withdraws into video games and video porn. At worst, when boys’ testosterone is not well-channeled by an involved dad, boys become among the world’s most destructive forces. When boys’ testosterone is well channeled by an involved dad, boys become among the world’s most constructive forces.”
    “The solution to male violence is not to spout off drivel about the evils of masculinity. Masculinity, channeled well, is the reason assistant football coach Aaron Feis died this week. Feis shielded students from bullets by pushing them inside a classroom.
    “The same instinctual response occurred at an Aurora, Colorado, movie theatre in 2012, when three young men— Jon Blunk, Matt McQuinn and Alex Teves—died shielding their girlfriends.
    “To be sure, there will be those who’ll continue to blame masculinity and the NRA for the recent bout of school shootings. But amidst their chatter are voices of reason who know all too well, either from first-hand experience or because they’re simply paying attention, that the reason boys are broken goes far deeper than policies and politics—and requires us to look at things we’d rather not.”
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/the-desperate-cry-of-americas-boys?fbclid=IwAR2suVgRMORiVsyuu_JDPZH01EBNy85aIpNsJA7h-Dmq94x1kdbL60nV0Ec
    ‪”[Kids raised without fathers] are five times more likely to be poor…nine times more likely to drop out…twenty times more likely to end up in jail.”‬
    ‪–@BarackObama‬

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  24. AVMan Avatar
    AVMan

    ,,,fun fact for the Roundtable Boys,,,the amount of Farm Aid Mullah Trump is paying is greater than the amount of money he is collecting from tariffs…
    #SAD

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    What are you doing to help then AquaV man?

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh, he was just mentally ill, nothing to see here. There I go again with that cherry picking. What is it with these serial killer illegals and their fixation on killing old ladies? Getting closer. 110 miles
    ——-
    “Federal officials have said Martinez-Guzman is in the U.S. illegally but they don’t know how or when he crossed the border.
    “The four slaying victims include Gerald David, 81, and his 80-year-old wife, Sharon David, a prominent Reno Rodeo Association couple who had employed Martinez-Guzman as a landscaper at their house last summer.
    “Police say they were shot with a .22-caliber handgun that Martinez-Guzman stole from them less than two weeks earlier.
    “We reserve the death penalty for the worst of the worst,” Hicks said.
    https://apnews.com/1313924652cf43e3bea72b11d43811e3

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  27. Scott O Avatar

    AV Dude – link, citation?
    And what was Obama paying in farm aid with nothing coming in from his ChiCom buddies?
    And we’re still waiting for proof about that city in ‘ruins’.

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  28. AVMan Avatar
    AVMan

    ,,,well, Mr. AquaVelva himself,,,trying to come up with a worthy candidate who will defeat Mullah Trump and ‘send him and his picture bride back to wherever they came from’ is JOB ONE!!!

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Comeon AVman, you always yapping and complaining so what is your strategy to help? Trump will defeat whoever you bring forward so that is off the table. Give us your solutions.

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Chicago killings show there is more reason for gun control.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “send him and his picture bride back to wherever they came from’ is JOB ONE!!!”
    There goes the Lefty sock puppets again hating on women…..legal immigrant women this time. Imagine an immigrant woman living in the WH. The horrors, the horrors. If only she was an illegal and anything but a YT. Big sigh.
    Hmm. I wonder if AV ever married a white woman. No wonder he is hating on them this morning. Another self loathing Lefty. Image if you can that kind of mind around school children. Garbage in, garbage out.
    —————————————
    No bias here.
    “The New York Times captured the essence of the president’s speech with a headline for its first print edition that read: “TRUMP URGES UNITY VS. RACISM.” The headline carried no bias for either Left or Right, simply summing up the expansive message Trump had delivered.
    But the Left went nuts — absolutely nuts. How dare The Times not bash Trump as a racist?!
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/50281/curl-new-york-times-proves-once-and-all-it-takes-joseph-curl?

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  32. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 905am – Good thinking Paul. Chicago already has some of the toughest gun regs in the country (as do other shithole cities), what additional gun regs did you have in mind to stop the ongoing pay-no-mind slaughter in that city?

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    They have to be enforced. It’s not the total answer but it’s a start. No more military weapons is the first step. You don’t need automatic weapons to hunt rabbits or protect your home. Create a buyback program with a time limit then strict enforcement.

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Here a disturbing fact
    “Firearms are the second leading cause of death among U.S. children and adolescents, after car crashes. Firearm deaths occur at a rate over three times higher than drownings.”
    What do you propose we should do about it?
    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/the-facts-on-the-us-children-and-teens-killed-by-firearms/

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  35. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I am opposed to children suffocating to death which is the fourth numerous cause of death. What do you propose to solve that Paul Emery?

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  36. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    George and Paul.
    Perhaps another Nevada City Townhall meeting is in order. That will solve everything! Maybe put up signs around town declaring the village a gun free zone.
    Buck went to Baltimore and hung out for a day. He also once spent one day a week in Baltimore doing analytical research for the Feds. So, while in Baltimore a few days ago, he asked out of curiosity if he, a man trained in firearm safety and handgun use by the CIA, could get a concealed carry permit. The LE looked at him like he was from another planet and said, “No way.” Strict gun control applies only to law abiding citizens. They are the ones who follow the law. Rules do not apply to criminals….the target of gun control laws. And thus it has always been.
    ————
    “Let’s see. 15,000 non-suicide gun homicides a yr, almost all perps were men. Of these homicides, nearly 50% were black perp/black victim. Black males are 7% of the U.S. population. Therefore, out of 7% come nearly 50% of all U.S. homicides. But let’s talk about “white supremacy.”‬. Larry Elder
    Merry ole England banned guns and now London has a higher murder rate than NYC. Go figure. So, they are banning knives. Kitchen knives. Some places in French cities are banning cars. Cars are used to mow down people.
    Oh, BTW, automatic guns have been banned for many moons.

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Todd you have no interest in discussing ways to cut gun deaths to children.

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  38. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 928am – So what is wrong with attempting to enforce existing gun laws before adding more unenforceable laws. Also, consider that the overwhelming number of gun casualties don’t involve ‘military style’ weapons. Also consider that “automatic weapons” are already outlawed. Also consider that the Second Amendment was not added to provide for “rabbit hunting and protecting your home”, in those saner days, that was already a given for having firearms.
    And I propose more widespread firearms familiarization and safety education. In days of old the country was full of gun clubs, hunting clubs, Boy and Girl Scout gun programs, many schools had indoor ranges, … – the possession and use of firearms was a normal American activity that was not connected with mass shootings. (Today our Sportsmens Club still provides youth firearms education programs through FFA and 4H.) As with automobiles, none of these remedies will completely eliminate accidental gun deaths – those tragedies will still be the cost of maintaining our freedoms. These factors, unfortunately, are not in your ken, no matter how many times we circle this barn. Great Divide.

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  39. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “They have to be enforced. It’s not the total answer but it’s a start. No more military weapons is the first step. You don’t need automatic weapons to hunt rabbits or protect your home. Create a buyback program with a time limit then strict enforcement.”
    -Punchy
    Punch, “it’s a start” is what was said when the National Firearms Act regulated automatic weapons out of existence in California. That was 1938.
    Let’s start with your version of “the total answer”. Batter up. To be honest, you’ll need to have repealing the 2nd amendment as a step.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, if you are talking about “Do something!”, then do something. Schedule another Townhall meeting.
    One of those things that stick. Old interview with Morgan Freeman by Don Lemon. Topic was school shootings. Morgan grew up in the South and said everybody had guns. He shoot his rifle after school like all the teenagers did. Nobody shot anybody. Nobody shoot up the schools. When Lemon asked him what has changed, Mr. Freeman said, “Value of life. We don’t value life.” Our culture today does not value lifelike it once did. And that is a problem “Do Something!” won’t solve.
    The El Paso shooter is 21 years old. No life experience, no friends, no social life. Spent his time on far alt right sites and got angry. But, forget the manifesto. That was all BS. Just a justification. He had a more important goal. He wanted to die. His goal was to die. You have a 21 year old kid who wants to die. No hope. No context. Laws won’t stop someone who determined to die rather than live. Red flag laws won’t stop someone who is determined and values neither his own life or the lives of others. He was too much of a coward to take his own life in the end.
    The Dayton shooter walked down the sidewalk right past cops moments before he opened fire. 24 years old. He shot his own sister. His little sis.

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  41. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    George, automatic weapons are not outlawed nationally.
    http://nevadamachinegun.com/
    The $6k BIG BOY shoot for 5 including a round trip by helicopter from Reno/Tahoe to their range sounds like a hoot.

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