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[I've been mulling over the utility of these sandboxes again.  More and more they have become the repository of tripe, with interesting threads and tidbits thrown in by readers who occasionally demonstrate that their abundant acumen lies mostly fallow.  I wouldn't mind it if some of the other posted topics that interest me would get more discussion, but too many of them go over with the existing cohort of commenters like a fart in church.  Many of the interesting emails on my topics come from readers who apparently don't want to join into the online fray.  So I keep asking myself, why do I host these sandboxes of scurrilous shit-flinging.  No good answers have risen to the surface.  Thoughts?  gjr]

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  1. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    She is channeling Michael Moore who warned them but will they listen? Hell no, luckily for us! –
    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/06/20/cher-democrats-dont-know-fk-all-about-how-to-win-in-2020/
    😉

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar

    Scott
    I’ve been through this many times on this blog and don’t have the desire to walk you through it again. What does it sound like to you? Pretty simple-think personal responsibility for your environment, Duh…

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  3. Scott O Avatar

    Yes Paul, it is pretty simple. To the point of not being of any utility in the real world where nothing is simple.
    Your ‘personal responsibility’ sounds great until we realize you leftys only want to apply it to yourselves when and if it suits you and to others only when it will apply to certain selected groups.
    A ‘green libertarian’ is as self cancelling as a meat-eating vegan. You’re free to call yourself whatever you like, but I find the fabricated label to be nothing more than a trendy and hip sounding load of gibberish that tells me you have no idea of what the hell you’re about besides sticking a moistened finger into the wind of political fads.

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Free speech and Russian troll farms.
    “A May 24, 2019 order in the “Russian interference” case United States v. Concord Management & Consulting exposes a particularly troubling flaw in the government’s effort to control, manage, and curate political ideas from abroad. The special counsel appears to have forgotten to explain how foreign political speech broke U.S. law.
    According to the May 24 order, the government is required to demonstrate that Russia-based company Concord had a duty to play “Mother, may I?” with the DOJ and the Federal Elections Commission before posting political speech on the internet using assumed names. Without that, the entire criminal case falls apart.
    As noted by Judge Dabney L. Freidrich, speech that might “sow discord among US voters through divisive social media posts and political rallies … by itself, was not illegal.” Truly, all political speech has the potential to be divisive or sow discord. The prosecution of any political criticism of Hillary Clinton without citing the specific laws supposedly being violated is troubling, to say the least……..
    “The Mueller indictment’s criminalization of Concord’s effort to “sow discord” has chilling similarity to Chinese justifications for censorship: “to curb the harmful effects of illegal information on state security [and] public interests.” Mueller’s report makes little or no effort to explain why political speech that originates from another country is a crime. It’s not.”
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/20/special-counsel-case-russian-company-takes-page-soviet-handbook/

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  5. George Rebane Avatar

    Re BillT 945pm – how would a leftist like PaulE respond to this obvious truth – crickets?

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  6. Scott O Avatar

    BT – 9:54 – thank you, I missed that article somehow.
    This entire issue goes to the core of free speech. What it is and what it isn’t.
    Free speech is the right to publicly disseminate ideas without govt interference. At the margins, there is controversy and unclear court rulings. ie – cursing in public, displays of nudity and so forth. Advocating or urging violence against some one is obviously not allowed although it seems these days the bad orange man is fair game to some and exactly what ‘violence’ is has become a rather twisted tale. The bald fact of the matter is that the left is usually at a disadvantage when it comes to information and ideas, so we see that in schools the idea of free speech is being re-formed or mutated into something of a rather odd animal.
    Judge Freidrich has it exactly right. Free speech is only free if we are allowed to upset people or offend them. The lefts’ invention of ‘hate speech’ must be squashed. Words themselves are not violence. If some one presents an idea that you cannot counter because you have not the wit nor the facts to do so, you will have to deal with it peacefully. Attacking or shouting down the speaker must not be allowed under any circumstance.
    If we are to criminalize a foreigner for expressing views in our country, then what shall we do about Americans expressing their views about another peoples or land?

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  7. Rock Hunter Avatar
    Rock Hunter

    Paul 7:44
    You speak with perfect sense. Completely understandable. Of these jackasses I can believe that only Todd is bewildered (when isn’t he), but the rest of the boys are probably smart enough to understand exactly what you are saying, but pretend otherwise and gang up on you and gas light you like a gang of KKK thugs (who knows that they aren’t, they have never even pretended that they aren’t) enjoying a black man at their party.
    You are understood and what you say is the truth. Don’t let the bullies on the block get to you.

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  8. Scott O Avatar

    There you go, folks – Rock Hunter at 7:33 – voice of the left.
    Hunts rocks so he can throw them.
    That’s all the left has.
    Sad.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    Trump should be Emery’s hero today. Trump called off any retaliation
    for the act of aggression of shooting down our drone and the tanker attacks.
    Good job “Rocky”.. Emery needed that hand job.

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    The Union has the front page article on the wonder of a transvestite reading to our little kids today. The world is pretty screwed up.

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  11. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Rock Hunter | 21 June 2019 at 07:33 AM
    If Punchy is uncomfortable here all he needs to do is refrain from offering his nonsense…..nobody is going to chase him down. But if he insists on posting an inanity like Green Libertarianism™ its not unreasonable for him to expect some well deserved mockery!
    There wouldn’t have been nearly so much had he just fessed up to being what he really is!

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  12. Scott O Avatar

    Todd at 9:09 – here’s the link
    https://www.theunion.com/news/a-unique-reading-nevada-county-library-will-host-the-drag-queen-story-hour-for-the-first-time/
    Money quote:
    ““Early childhood is a time for imagination and exploration,” she said.
    District 1 Supervisor Heidi Hall agreed.
    “Children are naturally open and curious,” she said. “The more that we get them to see that the world is a big place with a lot of variety” the better off they are.”
    Ah yes – as long as it’s approved left-wing ‘variety’.
    HH will also want the NRA and the local Christian churches to host a story hour – right?

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    ScottO I suggested a cop or firefighter but the left mocked that. Transvestites make up one-hundredth of one percent of the population and have been considered perverts but the left is trying to normalize that behavior. Pretty soon they will have a serial killer do a reading of Mary Had A Little Lamb.

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar

    I’m off and working doing live sound at Auburn today for the Party in the Park and tomorrow at Pioneer Park for Alasdair Frasers fiddle extravaganza. Both events are in public parks, the results of Socialism or Communism as Walt would put it. What a hoot.

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  15. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 June 2019 at 09:38 AM
    …..the results of Socialism or Communism as Walt would put it. What a hoot.

    Maybe…….certainly not libertarianism though, green or otherwise.

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar

    Rock Hunter writes:
    “I can believe that only Todd is bewildered (when isn’t he), but the rest of the boys are probably smart enough to understand exactly what you are saying”
    I don’t think they are smart enough Rock. The consistently believe all of Trumps lies and believe him fit to be President when he has the maturity of a spoiled 4 year old. I’m sad to say this includes our host.
    Thanks for your words of support.

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    punchy 952am
    “I don’t think they are smart enough Rock. The consistently believe all of Trumps lies and believe him fit to be President when he has the maturity of a spoiled 4 year old. I’m sad to say this includes our host.”
    This nearly three-year-long tantrum over the election of Trump is getting old and wearing thin.

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  18. Walt Avatar

    Poor Emery.. Having to resort to putting words in people’s mouths.
    Actually,, that’s the Commie way.”people love me!”
    But whatever makes a buck Emery. As long as you report it on your taxes. Gavin will be real pissed if you don’t.

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  19. Scott O Avatar

    from the KVMR newsman – “The (sic) consistently believe all of Trumps lies and believe him fit to be President when he has the maturity of a spoiled 4 year old. I’m sad to say this includes our host.”
    Paul gets all steamed up when Trump lies, but Paul just told another lie in that last statement and he knows it’s a lie.
    Trump lie bad, Paul lie good.
    Is that how it works?

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery cracks me up. He agrees with a troll who is as phony as he is. A green libertarian? Sorry they are not real. Rock and Paul are quite the pals.
    Trump is in their craw as are any conservatives as they are exposed for the liars they are. And they are haters as well.

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, I have held my fire. Today is the first day of Summer, 2019. Robert Cross said that Trump would be gone from office in Spring (2019).
    Roberta is the one who tells us what we can read and that which we may not. Whatever source that Roberta read that guaranteed that poor girl that Trump would be gone from office in Spring, 2019…..I am glad I did not read that crap…or if I did, I sure as heck would not fall for that garbage like she did. Oh my. Stupid is as stupid does.

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 June 2019 at 11:29 AM
    C’mon Bill…..I’m sure they meant well…….
    /sarc

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    If a perfect world, there will be no sadness, no disappointments, no bad juju feelings, and not trauma.
    “Concerns over the mural seem to have originated not with any actually “traumatized” students, but with former San Francisco Unifed School District board member, Matt Haney, who has since gone on to an illustrious career in San Francisco city government. Beyond just painting over or covering the mural, Haney actually wanted to change the name of George Washington High School because George Washington owned slaves (a fact depicted in the mural he wanted covered up).”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/48676/report-it-will-cost-600000-cover-george-washington-emily-zanotti?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2364610910284530&set=gm.699296137192166&type=3&theater

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  24. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 June 2019 at 12:25 PM
    RE: Reparations
    Remember Bill, Bald Kamala has to do anything to stay relevant and participate in the democrats debates. What is ….at 2% in the polls right now?
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2364610910284530&set=gm.699296137192166&type=3&theater

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The socialist paradise is what you would get with the green new deal, cow farts indeed –
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuba-ration-lines-grow-tense-as-economy-flails-11561109406
    😉

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  26. George Rebane Avatar

    Did I miss PaulE’s response to my 638am? Has anyone seen it?

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane @ 2:05 pm
    Where have you been? Only Punchy can ask questions and rest of us must answer. Shame on you for asking a question.
    Daily Quotes….no commentary necessary
    Upright: “Most of the best parts of our constitutional order are undemocratic and act as counters to the popular passions of democracy, which our Founding Fathers understood, feared, and held in contempt for good reason.” —Kevin Williamson
    Food for thought: “Self is now god in America, and modern man will embrace whatever delusion he must in its worship.” —Peter Heck
    For the record: “It sure doesn’t feel worse than when I grew up in Jim Crow Alabama. So let’s drop this notion that we’re [in] worse race relations today than we were in the past. That means we’ve made no progress. Really?” —Condoleezza Rice
    Nice pivot: “I’m absolutely comfortable using that term because it is rooted in an academic definition. Often times when the term concentration camp is evoked what people think of are extermination camps. They think of Auschwitz.” —Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    Non Compos Mentis: “I know what concentration camps are. I was inside two of them, in America. And yes, we are operating such camps again.” —George Takei
    Braying Jackass: “[Donald Trump’s] uncontrollable jealousy of Barack Obama will lead to thousands of premature deaths from air pollution, wildfires, floods. What a small-minded, short-sighted little man.” —Bette Midler
    Alpha Jackass: “Men and women who have bad genes with genetic diseases like diabetes, hypertension, cancer etc should not produce children. They have no right to make others suffer.” —feminist author Taslima Nasreen
    The BIG Lie: “More than 100 years ago, Planned Parenthood was founded on the simple idea that our bodies are our own — without that, we cannot be truly free or equal.” —Planned Parenthood president Leana Wen (“Wrong. Revisionist history. Planned Parenthood was founded on EUGENICS by Margaret Sanger, whose goal was to make sure ‘undesirable’ populations weren’t reproducing. Or, if they became pregnant, their babies were aborted.” —Liz Wheeler)
    D’oh! “My name is Ms. Hicks.” —Hope Hicks to Rep. Jerry Nadler, who on multiple occasions called her “Ms. Lewandowksi”
    And last… “This is your daily reminder the Attorney General of Minnesota is someone who is accused of multiple incidents of domestic abuse with 911 calls and bruises as evidence. His name: Keith Ellison. Democrats pretend to ‘believe women’ until real abuse happens within their own party.” —Charlie Kirk

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Trigger warning: RT television sowing discord in Belgium
    https://www.facebook.com/wgcdrshravan.kapoor/videos/2275166675838970/UzpfSTU1NDc2Mjc0OTpWSzo2OTkxMDkxNDA1NDQxOTk/?multi_permalinks=699441057177674%2C699398107181969%2C699296137192166%2C699382897183490%2C697563247365455&notif_id=1560638942771417&notif_t=group_activity
    No wonder Nigel Farage disparaged EU President (Herman van Rompuy) for being from Belgium which everybody knows is “pretty much a non-country.” I never grew tired of posting this clip.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY

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  29. Scott O Avatar

    George at 2:05 – He only had time to throw shoddy and false accusations against us and then run out the door.

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  30. Walt Avatar

    🤣🤣 Your kidding,,,right?🤣🤣
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/21/california-regulators-get-weedwise/#disqus_thread
    “The Bureau of Cannabis Control announced the launch of an ad campaign to persuade customers away from the illegal marijuana marketplace and promote legal, safe cannabis.
    The campaign “will directly impact consumer safety by clarifying that only cannabis purchased from licensed retailers has met the state’s safety standards,” Chief of the Bureau, Lori Ajax, told The Associated Press.”
    They expect the usual crowd to pay triple the street price?
    Then just about everyone and their Brother is growing a plant or two of their own.
    The VARY pretty Gavin isn’t getting his projected tax revenue, and is pissed.

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  31. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Walt @448 – What made them think it was going to go any different than everywhere else before?
    😉

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  32. Scott O Avatar

    walt – 4:48
    Love this quote:
    “Illegal cannabis can contain “chemicals, mold, and fecal matter,” according to the press release.”
    hilarious! You mean like this?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhzgY-EadHA
    Why do you think we used to call quality weed ‘really good shit’?
    Bureaucrats are mainly dumber than dogs. “Oh please go out and buy way more expensive dope cause that way we can make some money off of sitting on our arses.”

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  33. Walt Avatar

    HELL!! I was saying that as Emery was making the excuse to legalize it for taxes. That sure has worked out swell.
    Have they made enough in taxes to sustain the weed bureaucrats?
    Or is it also running at a loss?
    Now don’t forget this hilarious news. We see where the importance really is.
    https://mjbizdaily.com/california-national-guard-not-yet-redeployed-border-combat-illegal-marijuana-farms/
    “California Gov. Gavin Newsom alarmed many Northern California cannabis growers during his state of the state address in February when he announced 150 National Guard troops serving at the U.S.-Mexico border would redeploy, in part, to “go after illegal cannabis farms.” ”
    And even funnier,,,
    “they are awaiting federal funds requested by Newsom in February to finance their assignments to specific Counterdrug Task Force missions, a California National Guard spokesman told Marijuana Business Daily this week.”

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  34. Walt Avatar

    And the best comment at the bottom of the story
    “david on June 12th, 2019 – 4:17pm
    ‘“(Farmers) who are doing it the right way – or even attempting to do it the right way, complying with the laws to the best of your ability – they shouldn’t worry about the California National Guard.”’
    Good to know, I’ll tell that to the judge, when I fight my misdemeanor ticket. Or to save time maybe I can pay for two or three tickets while I’m at court, you know, to save time!”

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  35. Walt Avatar

    Ya gotta feel for the poor bastard that had to be caught sitting next to Bernie. His eye tell it all.
    Nevermind the Dizzy Izzy is sitting behind.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-plane-photo

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  36. Scott O Avatar

    Walt – 5:24 – Wait a minute!
    “they are awaiting federal funds requested by Newsom in February to finance their assignments to specific Counterdrug Task Force missions, a California National Guard spokesman told Marijuana Business Daily this week.”
    So – the left slags Trump because he won’t go along with state decriminalization of dope and then Newsom wants FEDERAL money to go after peaceful, beautiful, love children growing a medicinal plant?
    Oh, the irony.
    Totally lost on the dopers in California.
    Throw rocks at Trump, but beg money from him for the purpose of propping up the state authorized dope sales.
    Gotta keep our turf!!

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  37. Scott O Avatar

    Don at 5:21 – And Jesse called NY ‘Hymie Town’.
    Hey – they were just joshin’!
    Can’t you take a joke?

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  38. Walt Avatar

    Scott. Emery will avoid that story like Ebola.
    Now how come the local LIB rag didn’t run that story?

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  39. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    The Union thread on the crossdressers reading to the 3-8-year-old kids is really getting comments!

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    You gentlemen are having too much fun. I did notice a skip in the step of folks on the right side of the aisle recently. The Federalist, not known for humor (to put it kindly) is even getting into the act in their own way. Hell hath froze over……. again!
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/21/limited-edition-kamala-is-a-cop-t-shirts-now-for-sale/

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  41. Paul emery Avatar
    Paul emery

    Running sound for around 2000 people having a great time listening to music at a public park in Auburn. Thanks to socialism we have wonderful parks like this.

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  42. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    That’s pathetic even for the pony tail of ignorance @751!
    😉

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  43. Walt Avatar

    Only the buzzard of Broad St. would think pubic parks are a form of Socialism. And you wonder why you get such ridicule?

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