[Our favorite cartoonist RL 'Bob' Crabb and I share thoughts on the US benefitting from a multi-party (four or more) political smorgasbord. Bob offered this good rendition, filched from the 2feb19 Union, of Howard Schultz's presidential ambitions. There should be a lot more to say about that. gjr]

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302 responses to “Sandbox – 2feb19”
,,,Go Schultz!!!
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,,,Schultz could capture conservative votes. Grew up in projects, billionaire, articulate.
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,,,We need more independent candidates of all political stripes to break the two party duopoly.
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MMM 1014am – Agreed.
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The only question remains concerning Howard is will he take more votes from the Left or the Right?
The way Howard unambiguously stated he firmly believes in the American Dream, about getting ahead by hard work, about earning it….well, he lost the Leftinista vote right there. But, then again, he is preaching American Expectionalism to a center Right country. And lest we forget, it was the center-left “moderates” who carried the Dems to retake the House, not the AOCs of the world.
So, who does Howard hurt or help the most. Or, is will be the last man standing at the end of the day?
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Backtracking briefly, before forging ahead:
Scenes….from the dearly departed closed Sandbox
“I’m not buying it kiddo.”
Says it all. Short, concise, to the point, and complete. I envy your ability.
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About the PARTY OF WAR, opinions on policy vary. Some say that Iran is not a threat, never was. Others disagree. I do know that Iran had a thriving educated middle class (an outlier for a Muslim country in the Middle East) until the totalitarians took over…..
Another view, one man’s opinion…..nothing more, nothing less.
https://buchanan.org/blog/trump-vs-the-spy-chiefs-whos-right-135918
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Da Border and no need for no stnkin’ papers.
The lawmakers who rail against immigration law are no longer trying to change it. Democratic voters should be furious that their legislators are making no attempt to legislate on this major issue. Republican voters should be furious that members of Congress are ignoring the rule of law. If this is how the powers that be are going to run things, then we will not be a nation of laws, but a nation of whichever laws the party in power prefers.
http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/01/border-fight-party-gets-ignore-americas-laws/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ
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Ok, moving forward in the future.
Alexandria Occasional Cortex vs The Fu-Fu Coffee Guy
https://www.dailywire.com/news/42852/ocasio-cortez-attacks-howard-schultz-embarrasses-ryan-saavedra?fbclid=IwAR3GujmGdUiURInS5RZNFiKRAUlnev6aYnXiRaYS5YsmBmAZVRANjUzDp_4
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We are just beginning to plumb the depths of AOC’s ignorance. She will provide months and months of entertainment to the well-read half of Americans. The rest, alas, will continue to be smitten by her as they were of Obama (and Hillary?). But Schultz is a stalking horse the impact of which we have yet to understand, until he starts putting forth specifics on the economy, property, taxes, foreign policy, trade, and, of course, constitutionality. If he plays it right, he will attract legions from both poles.
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,,,AOC has a lot in common with Trump in the highly opinionated ignorance department,,,.lots of entertainment to look forward to,,,
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Schultz is a liberal, not conservative or centrist, Democrat. Except for the zeitgeist of today’s Democratic Party, fighting to be to the left of the left of Progressive and destroying the Patriarchy, he’d be running as a liberal Democrat with the credibility of being a long time donor and supporter of the Democratic Party in Seattle.
I think Schultz is to the left of Bill Clinton and would take more votes from the Democratic coalition than the GOP.
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Why all the fuss about a 29 year old when discussing an election two years out?
If given a choice between Trump and Schulz, the voters would kick Trump’s fat butt into the Atlantic. Then call hazmat.
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AOC hasn’t a clue. Trump “ignorance”? Now there is fiction on the highest level.(just what are you smoking?)
Keep trying Hummmer.
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After admitting to and then apologizing for his black face and KKK picture, I am at this moment listening to the Virginia Governor lie through his teeth. Oh that is not me. My goodness have liberals no shame? Just resign as you have made yourself look way worse today. I think the people of Virginia will boot his sorry ass if he doesn’t quit.
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If given the choice between Harris (or another female Progressive Democrat) and Schultz and Trump…?
That’s what the Dems are going nuts over. They WANT a female Prog vs. Trump in Nov 2020. Not a three way with a Seattle Democrat to split the woke vote.
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I agree. They think America will elect one of those babes but little Schultz might screw up their partytime. He may drop out as those libs feeling get hurt and they scurry home to hide. But there will be many more jumping in. Mayv=be Corey Booker will take a lot of black homosexual votes?
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,,,yes alt Walt,,,your hero is a very stable genius,,,he knows more than any intelligence agency or military officer,,,ok, time for your nap now little Walt…
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,,,Todd Swallows,,,no, not talking about Mr. Swallows…
Juvenile,,,did you know the blackface moment was brought to you by a right wing conspiracy site??? No? of course not…
Northam dressed up as Micheal Jackson once at a dance using some blackface,,,guess what,,,Micheal Jackson dressed up in WHITEFACE,,,
Ok, ToddJ,,,go get him!!!
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,,,Gregory from above,,,ok got the scoop on Schultz,,,
,,,same can be said of our current Pesident the former democrat and big dem donor!!!
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,,,that old woman ToddJ is sounding just like the afros-on-fire snowflakes that are guilt trippin’ the Governor for something people in Hollywood and elsewhere still do,,,dress up as Indians, Mexicans, whomever some 35 years later…
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“MMM” will believe anything a fellow loony iberal says. What a hoot!
And now making fun of my name. What’s your true name “MMM”?
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FYI “Corna Diddily” has apparently been wiped off of The Union’s Facebook presence.
Todd, a word to the sometimes wise, please don’t do a victory dance.
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Gregory OK I won’t. LOL
Here is my response to a Frisch post on a Chrisman article on income “inequality”
“Steven Frisch So you support all those lazy ass whiners that think they are in need of other people’s money and possessions? Sad. Facts can be misleading and yours are just that. If you want to get ahead and make more of something you have to work to get it. But your ilk is all about taking from those that work hard and save and become a success and giving it to lazy ass people. Since you own one car and rent then I guess you must be jealous of those that have more. That is the problem you share with your lazy ass cohorts. How many TV’s, microwaves and cars do you want until you are satisfied? And that is the rub. I suggest you go to Somalia or Burma and see what true inequality looks like. Hell in our country even the poorest dolt can get Emergency Room doctors. So take your facts and pout them where the sun doesn’t shine and then get down on your knees and thank all those hard working people that make your non-profit possible.”
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Gregory 12:12-
I know a LOT of Republicans chomping at the bit to get rid of the embarrassing stain in the White House. Mitt would make a strong showing and nicely divide the ticket. We haven’t had a military man in the house for a long time and Trump sure managed to publicly shame 95% of the generals and intelligence folks in this country. Bush rose from the CIA with a lot of quiet support of his peers. I wouldn’t be too surprised to see a star rising with some stars on his shoulders.
Given a choice between Trump and Daddy Starbucks, the Mitt crowd would likely vote Schultz.
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For your reading pleasure:
Trump down an astounding -22 on latest Gallup Poll
https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/trump-job-approval-weekly.aspx
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For new readers:
Todd Juvinall opposed the South Yuba River State Park which brings 700,000 visitors annually to our community. He is opposed to the boost to our economy that brings. Wants to go back to the “good ole days” of mining and logging as our economic driver.
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Todd keeps barking about the Organic Food Guy building a house on the Yuba or perhaps in its view shed despite W&S designation. Sorry Todd. His house is on Rock Creek, not the Yuba, and no you can’t come close to seeing the Yuba from his house or his house from the Yuba. I sense a frustrated, jealous hammer swinger who can’t stand it when people are as successful as Michael.
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,,,What’s your true name “MMM
,,,it’s Dougy,,,remember???
Covfefe!!!
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Paul Emery, I am surprised you are bringing up things previously discussed and put to bed. Are you OK? I know Alzheimer’s is rampant and you might be in need of some diagnosis for it. The 700,000 was a made up figure as previously discussed and passed along without facts to the County brochure. And the people coming to the river are not spending money in the area as they buy their stuff in low cost towns down the hill. Even their gasoline. All we get is their pooping in the river and algae blooms and lots of trash. Your propaganda is too funny.
The Food guy built his house overlooking the Yuba and it is in in the viewshed. I know as I talked to the drywall installer. So you are just wrong as usual.
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“MMM” then use your true name. Also give us your FB page so we can verify it. We all know you lie like a dog.
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Looks like “Swallows” is swallowing more propaganda about Trump. His support is at 90% of the R’s so there may be a few that don’t like him. But looking at your candidates, Trump is a shoo-in for the next election. Maybe you could run the Virginia Governor? He is a vet, a doctor and a KKK fan. Quite the common democrat resume’.
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Todd
How come you are so opposed to things that make our County prosperous? That was purely your contention about the number of visitors to the Yuba with no documentation. The 700,000 number is supported by both the State, State parks, and Nevada County. Also why do you speak negatively about the “Food Guy” who has provided thousands of jobs over the years to Nevada and Placer County workers. Are you jealous because you were such a bust in development and couldn’t even keep a job in an organization you helped found?
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Paul Emery we already proved your number is bogus. Why defend a lie?
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Swallows 122pm
The never trumpers likely voted for Hillary in ’16. They’re already factored in. Trump can win without them. Trump can and did also win without a single vote from California so if your friends wanting anyone but Trump are here, they already don’t count… because there are more Dems in the state. For now.
Whether or not the Dem majority in Kali can survive the state going bankrupt and record high energy prices as the Climate Change story folds like a collapsing house of cards is left to be seen.
The Arrow of Inevitability isn’t as inevitable as the “Progressives” think.
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So Todd you and a couple of the Circle of Jerks know more than the State of California. State Parks and Nevada County Board of Supervisors. Ha
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Todd 1:45-
Re: Organic Guy overlooking the Yuba. You stake your spotless reputation and base countless accusations on a second hand report from a sheet rocker? A simple Google Earth will prove you a fool. But we knew that.
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Actually yes. I have told you the genesis of your phony numbers that were then adopted without facts. I guess you just don’t listen very well.
Once more for your pea brain.
The number was based on a one weekend review of five spots where p[eople parked. They took the small number and extrapolated it into the huge number that was then adopted. But no proof. We actually did the same thing and came up with a number around 40,000 and that was placed in testimony.
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Great… all this country needs is another billionaire politician running for President. I don’t care if he is a republican or demo, a billionaire is still a billionaire and sees the world through a billionaire’s eyes. There is no way such a person could even begin to understand the plight of working class Americans. It will be just more of what we have had for the last 30 years, regardless of party, Wall Street goons.
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George 11:07. “We are just beginning to plumb the depths of AOC’s ignorance. ”
That’s just great.. when are you going to begin to plumb the depths of trump’s ignorance? It seems that the latter is of greater concern than the former, at least to anyone who is actually concerned about the future versus political expediency.
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Trump is quite an amazing guy. When he was a kid his dad made him work with all the trades to learn about them And he got a taste for the working class and the things they have to go through to survive. And he has carried that all through his life. He campaigned for them. He works hard to get them jobs and decent pay. He does this because he is truly one of them. And of course, he made a lot of money that the lazy asses of our country are jealous of. But to me he knows of the plight of the less fortunate. Many thanks and plaques were given to him over the years by the likes of Jesse Jackson and others he has helped. But that is not enough as he made a lot of money and the dolts of America are just plain jealous of success.
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Todd 2:50
“He works hard to get them jobs and decent pay. He does this because he is truly one of them.”
You sound like Sara Huckabee on Quaaludes after she got sucker punched by Mike Tyson. Who writes your script for each day?
Did you figure out how to use Google Earth yet? After 20 years of dissing Mr. Funk for building a house overlooking the Yuba, do you feel even the least bit contrite, or do you just check your facts at the door?
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RobertC 242pm – I guess it’s just that some people like to focus on the talk, others on the walk.
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TS don’t engage trolls.
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If Schultz comes across as the adult in the room, while Trump and the Democrat candidate come across as spoiled children, he can win the Presidential election. That is going to be a high bar for Schultz, and the question is can he maintain the patina of sanity during a political process run by unstable clowns? Time will be the judge of this contest.
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Sorry Russ it won’t happen that way. For one thing he is a indie and there are not that many nationwide. Another is will be in the debates? Probably not if he is less than 5% in the polls.
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Todd 3:15
Hmmm, make up your mind: troll, bot, Keachie . . . DO you know even know Rock Creek from the Yuba River?
Russ- 100% agree. Tough row to hoe.
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TS I don’t engage trolls or bots. Go away.
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Robert Cross @ 2:38 pm
“There is no way such a person could even begin to understand the plight of working class.”
Ah, your class hatred is showing again. Perhaps Shultz coming from the projects and watching as a child his father getting hurt during a time with no unemployment, welfare, or income coming into the household…and overhearing the deep concern of his parents whispering about the dilemma and seeing the worry in their faces….well, that kind of stuff has a habit of staying with ya and leaving an ingrained impression on one for the rest of their lives. Like Depression babies or having your parents grab your hand and flee Nazi Germany in the dead of night not knowing what will happen next.
But, Bobbie, there is no way you could even begin to understand the plight of those working class who overcame and improved their lot in life by putting their palms to the grindstone instead of going about having their palms facing up.
Some of us have will never forget where we come from and can relate more than you have the capacity to comprehend.. Sure, some forget where they came from….
I will put you down in the #NeverShultz category because he started with nothing and earned a pile of money the old fashioned way. No billionaires allowed! Got it.
Class warfare is alive and thriving. Judge Howard by the thicknesss of his wallet. Ok.
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Why is a >2 party system superior?
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Grgoryy @ 11:57 am & 12:12pm
The ‘experts’ say that if Howard sees he won’t win and sees his candidacy will get Trump re-elected, he will drop out instead and throw his support behind the Leftinista of the proper race, color, and gender. Priorities.
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George 3:09. — If you are referring to trump as the ‘walker’ rather than the ‘talker’ I think you must have overlooked the 8,000+ incidents of lies and misinformation that has come out of trump’s mouth since he was elected. Or the countless times he has changed his story on any number of statements such as ‘Mexico will pay for the wall.” Or maybe you didn’t know about the fraud at the Trump foundation that forced them to close or the fine for defrauding students at trump U that cost him $25M.
Your anti-AOC rhetoric is straight out of the good ole white boy’s play book straight from Faux news. She is just the opposite of the repubs. She is a young not-white female who speaks to the masses unlike your typical republican old white man who does the bidding of the donors. That is why the right wing pundits knock her.. they are afraid of her so they are launching a pre-emptive strike at her character before she gains even more clout with the everyday people than she already has.
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