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[Does anyone know what leverage would Trump have to get Dems to agree to border security funding were he to agree on first giving them all they want on illegal aliens in a bill that would also terminate the shutdown?  gjr]

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431 responses to “Sandbox – 21jan19”

  1. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 134pm – Paul, you’re completely missing the subject of this discussion – it’s nothing to do about the relative poll numbers. Please, give it another try.

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  2. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee
  3. Walt Avatar

    Your really all over the place today Paul.
    There is no “alleged” about it.
    Hummm… Still can’t tell us about any harm Trump has done.
    He’s REALLY held to the “America first” policy. Not “Blame America first” like you and yours like to do.
    BTW.. 19 days to go. What will the queen of the damned say then? It will be HER shutdown.

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  4. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Well that could explain a lot about the usual suspects –
    FEATURE-The digital drug: Internet addiction spawns U.S. treatment programs
    http://news.trust.org/item/20190127105154-wfuzc
    😉

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  5. George Rebane Avatar

    Walt 255pm – “HER shutdown”?!! That’s a welcome and hopeful prognosis Mr Branson. Could you enlighten some of the thicker members of our little coffee clatch (watashi-wa specifically) as to how you see the country ascribing the next shutdown to Nancy’s column??

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  6. Walt Avatar

    Well, SHE is the one who stated “no deal while Gov. is closed”.
    If she refuses to deal and play the “we won” card,, yup,, SHE will own it.
    Now the LIBS will be forced to deal. Trump is better at this game than they are.

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  7. Walt Avatar

    See? Party over country.
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/27/van-jones-john-lewis-sheila-jackson-lee-criminal-justice-reform-trump/
    “Palm Springs, Calif. — Prominent liberal Democrats opposed 2018’s criminal justice reform, and CNN progressive commentator Van Jones thinks he knows why.
    Presidential hopefuls Sens. Kamala Harris and Cory Booker joined Sen. Dick Durbin and Reps. John Lewis and Sheila Jackson Lee on a May 2017 letter calling the First Step Act “a step backwards.”
    “I think publicly they were saying it doesn’t go far enough,” Jones said in a video played at the winter Koch Seminar Sunday morning. “I think privately, they just didn’t want Trump to have a victory.” “

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  8. MMM Avatar
    MMM

    ,,,Trump shut down the government over a specific amount of money he wanted for the
    Fence.
    Democrats showed him that was an unacceptable reason to do that much damage to the country. They spanked him like a child, withheld his allowace, and put him on time out.
    Pubbers think shutting down the government is an acceptable way to govern,,,it is not.

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hmm. Is Somebody trolling on another thread from the Fairy Tail again? Must be as bored as last night.
    ——————-
    Walt, I see the President has picked up on one of your earilier posts.
    https://www.oann.com/pres-trump-voter-fraud-is-rampant-all-over-the-country-citing-texas-stats/
    ———————-
    Mexico will get tired of those social net busters from shithole countries soon enough. Popcorn time.
    https://www.oann.com/mexico-receives-more-than-12000-humanitarian-visa-applications-from-migrant-caravan/
    ————————
    Guess it time to smoke some camel jockeys.
    https://www.oann.com/u-s-backed-coalition-continues-final-offensive-against-islamic-state/

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  10. Walt Avatar

    So Dougy, Those vary same LIBS voted FOR border protection before.
    Now they are against it.
    Where they lying then, or are they lying now?
    It’s not the money, and you know it.

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  11. Walt Avatar

    Right on time.
    Queen of the Damned has already started bragging.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/27/pelosi-explains-her-shutdown-strategy-start-feather-you-move-sledgehammer/
    She hasn’t learned anything in the past two years. That’s what happens when your drunk on power.

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  12. George Rebane Avatar

    MMM 401pm – In your world, is there even a smidgen of possibility that it was not just Trump who shut down the government – not much, just a smidgen?

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  13. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    She has time on her hands so why not?
    Arizona ranchers living along the U.S.-Mexico border are again inviting House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi — including airfare and accommodation — to visit their locales to see firsthand what they describe as an “insecure” southern border.
    Chris Burgard introduces the video invitation, saying, “Right now, Americans have a greater chance of dying from an opioid overdose than they do in a car accident. Yet Nancy Pelosi openly rejects border facts that are presented to her by DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.”
    Burgard adds, “My buddy John, his ranch is down on the border in Arizona. He says he’s had over two million illegal aliens and too many tons of narcotics come across his ranch. So a few years ago, he invited Nancy Pelosi to come down for a visit. He said he’d even send a plane for her.”
    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/01/27/ranchers-invite-pelosi-border-come-see-why-your-fence-trash/
    😉

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  14. LickyMMMcordadiddidily Avatar
    LickyMMMcordadiddidily

    Sedition

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar

    It’s about Trumps phony bravado George and the fact he’s a serial liar and you can’t believe a word he says. Todd and the Circle of jerks are hanging onto his every morsel and don’t accept that he’s on his way down and he’s dragging the Republican party with him. Look at what’s happened in California. The weird thing is that they don’t care.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, this explains everything. Everything. This is what we are dealing with; liberal progressives that value Emotion over Logic or Facts. Can’t argue with stupid.
    60 seconds
    https://www.facebook.com/dagoldenone3333/videos/2218807048159145/UzpfSTEwMDAwMDg0NjQyOTM4NDoyMTUwNzQxMTQxNjMwNzQ2/
    “I believe her. Listen to the children”, not!

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  17. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 27 January 2019 at 06:19 PM
    …….. the Circle of jerks are hanging onto his every morsel and don’t accept that he’s on his way down and he’s dragging the Republican party with him.

    QUICK!!!! To the fainting couch! …..and ladies…. lets not forget those pearls …!

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  18. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery | 27 January 2019 at 06:19 PM
    We have our own brains unlike you Paul Emery. You are a bonafide brainwashed lefty! I think you really need a colonoscopy to clean out your oldman thinking and get into the 21st century like we are.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @6:48 pm
    A couple of weeks ago, the lamestream narrative turned from ‘Orange Man bad’ to Orange Man bad supporters via the drumbeat reaching the crescendo pitch of “Why don’t the Trumpsters denounce him!?!??!”
    Oh, Bobbie Sue was pounding on the theme, The Teddy Bear of the Arts Colony was going off on the theme, and it continued growing by the hour until the MSM fakenews debacle of the Buzzfeed story, followed by the attack on private Christian education, followed by MSM fakenews losing all credibility (what little they had left, if any) over their mobbing and slimming of Catholic children waiting for their bus home, followed by federal workers showing up at the food banks to get dog food to eat, followed by the cacophony to end the shutdown, followed by the chorus that Trump folded by ending the shutdown they demanded him to do.
    So, it’s a slow newsday Sunday and we are back to where they were before all the recent events happened: their disgust, bewilderment, and appallment that the Orange Man supporters do not denounce him now!! Here, look at this little list of 6,000 lies. No, wait, look at this list of 8,000 lies!
    Think the Tedd Bear of the Nirvana City Artist Colony used the term “apathetic” before the distractions. Now it’s ‘they don’t seem to care.’ And the beat picks up where it left off.
    After seeing what the Blue Mob did to those boys on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial (of all places!) the ONLY thing preventing them doing to same to any of us casualy shopping in the grocery store or walking down the street with a smile or simply opening a car door is Donald J. Trump. Guess they have surmised that the only reason ghastly Donald J Trump is still standing is his 60 million supporters. They will fix that.
    Bail on POTUS? And then what? Run into the loving arms of hate, vitriol, doxxing, dead threats, kangaroo courts, and full blown chaotic unhinged Mass Hystetia? I cannot bring myself to ever stoop that low and get down in their level. A kink in my knee prevents that. Old injury and old bones, I reckon.
    But, but, but……but even Dr. Rebane had to hold his noise and vote for Trump! Yep, and so did Nikki Haley and a bunch of others. But where else are they going to go? Into the dead grip of Hillary Clinton? But, but,but…Denounce he Orange Bad Man anyway!
    But, then we would not have all this fun and frolic. Fish, me suspects you are having too much fun. Ok, it may be impossible to have too much fun. Hillary is keeping the door open. Sweet. 🙂

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I knew it, I just knew it. That pinko bastard is a Russian spy! Denounce him!
    Russiagate ‘conspiracy derangement’: Even Bernie Sanders is a Russian agent, argues MSM journalist
    https://www.rt.com/usa/449923-bernie-sanders-russian-agent/
    Hmmm. Bernie announces and Hillary tells three sources she is available. You can see the guiding hand of Hillary behind this latest attack on Comrade Bernie. Heck, it worked great on Trump. When you find something that works……..or, if you got a big gun, fire it. What a nasty woman. Sweet.

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Blinded by the light
    The Left’s journalists and artists are so deeply consumed by vile, vicious, venomous rage towards President Donald J. Trump and his supporters that they have become incapable of clear thought.
    Just about daily, they soil themselves and stain beyond recognition the notion of a free press as a bulwark of American liberty. Instead, they humiliate themselves while aiming to “get Trump” and reverse the results of the 2016 election, which they remain too juvenile to accept, even halfway through Trump’s first term.
    More likely, though, the Trump haters have learned nothing from all of this. As they labor to destroy the president, these ink-stained suicide bombers are destroying themselves.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/trump-critics-media-embarrass-themselves/

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  22. L Avatar
    L

    Paul, Trump may well be more popular than our now highly regarded 16th president who was first elected in a three-way race and won re-election largely because half of his original non-supporters were ineligible to vote by reason of open rebellion by 11 states that left over his original election. Being more popular than Lincoln is no great accomplishment, nor does popularity have much to do with history’s ultimate verdict on ‘greatness.” L

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  23. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “That pinko bastard is a Russian spy!”
    …orange is the new pink I guess.
    While I fully realize that the current McCarthyism is simply a tool (any tool’ll do) to depose a lawfully elected President, it’s such weak sauce that I feel embarrassed for the folks who bang that drum.
    At least in the early 1950’s, the Soviet Union was expansionist (it’s a strong but not the only strain in it’s Communism…hey, it’s a complicated thing), on a technological roll, and had a strongly aggressive overshoot due to barely surviving WWII.
    The Russia of today is a second or third rate economic power, spends a bit of money in the US on elections, and has extremely localized foreign policy needs. Their impact on US elections is teensy compared to the UK, Israel, Saudi Arabia, but by golly it makes for a good yarn on CNN.

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  24. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Chicago is experiencing their coldest “global warming” ever. 50 below. Polar bears are headed there to live.

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Trump and Honest Abe.
    Well, somebody should do some research. I ain’t going to lift a finger to check it out. Trump at 18 months into his first term and Lincoln at 18 months in his first term. And count the weeks on a calendar, not the dates. Trump was swore in around Jan 20, Lincoln sworn in about 6 weeks later, first week in March. Then one has to cross reference the exact polling questions 18 months into each’s respective terms, not to mention the polling outfits and methodology. I am exhausted already and “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.” I certainly don’t need waste time to win a useless agrument. Whatever you say, hugging bear, whatever you say…….. There are real hills worth defending.
    Guess quoting (copy and pasting) historians is a no-no. Is it a Bozo no-no, or just a no-no? Interesting to note that magic word ‘deplorable’ was referenced.
    The New York Herald once wrote that “his election was a rash experiment, his administration is a deplorable failure.” The northern paper’s editors also said, “As President of the United States he must have enough sense to see and acknowledge he has been an egregious failure.”
    Denounce him! Tall Man Bad.

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  26. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Boardman is dissing conservatives again. Sounded to me he was talking about GeorgeR.

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  27. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “In my whole life, I’ve had only one client: The people,”
    Kamala Harris’ is on a roll. “The people” are eating it up. For now.

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  28. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    It is coming out about her affairs. A hot chick. LOL!

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Kamala Harris’ is on a roll. “The people” are eating it up. For now.
    Yep, and it’s a great move that Ole Willy Brown came out and said “ I dated her, so what? “BFD and heck, I had multiple affairs. Best to get all the skeletons out of the closet early on and get it behind ya. Otherwise, you are running around saying stuff like, “What, you mean like wipe it with a dust cloth? “
    Hillary’s drew a crowd of 5,000 at Roosevelt Island on her big coming out shendig. Forget if that was announcement party number one or two, before the reset and redo. Anyway, it was the largest crowd she would draw until those rock concerts the last days of the race.
    Mea Cupa time. I was wrong and confess. I throw myself on the mercy of the court. I am a Liar!, a lowly worm. I said Ole Willy slid Ms. Harris a nice new shiny Mercedes Benz. False. It was a nice new shiny BMW ole Willy slid her way.
    Now that is behind us (and her), we can move on. “I see myself not as an Indian-American or a Black-American, but as an American.” Brilliant. America is yearning for someone to bring us all together. All the polling and surveys show it. Weights on people’s minds. A gentler kinder America, a new conservative, a New Democrat, “I am a Uniter, not a Divider.” American First! Sweet.

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 28 January 2019 at 09:41 AM
    A hot chick. LOL!

    Now Todd…..you just stop it….you’re going to give Punchy an aneurysm.

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