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Sandbox – 19dec18

[Well, does Mueller have anything on Trump and the Russians, or are he and his boys just continuing to manufacture crimes so that in the end they can point to some accomplishments, while hoping to distract all from the charter that gave rise to their commission?  Sure would like to see what he would have escrowed when I first suggested it.  gjr]

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317 responses to “Sandbox – 19dec18”

  1. fish Avatar
    fish

    You never responded dugsKKKi……how many caravaners should we burden the taxpayers with to provide you an adequate supply of virile young Guatemalan penis?

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  2. Bill Tozet Avatar
    Bill Tozet

    Walt @ 11:24 am
    “It’s completely unacceptable that members of Congress can force a government shutdown on partisan lines & then have Congressional salaries exempt from that decision.”
    Perhaps Ms. Oscar Cortez should read the 25th Amendment. Congress must be paid, no matter what. Perhaps Ms. Oscar should read the Constitution (or at least parts of it) considering she will soon raise her right hand and solemnly swear on her sacred honor to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
    It does warm the cockles of me heart to see she is willing to forgo her first paycheck considering she cannot afford the rentals in DC. The rent is too darned high! Trump doesn’t draw a paycheck from the government and sheis following his lead.
    I knew Nany would throw the waitress under the bus. No way was Nancy going to ever eveturn over the reigns of her power to some 29 year old airhead peasant girl.

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozet | 22 December 2018 at 12:02 PM
    Picket Fence just needs to learn to do what countless congressmen have done for years….sleep in their offices.
    She’s such a prima dona for a socialist! Whatever happened to Mao tunics or Fidel fatigues and sleeping in the dirt of the jungle floor? Oh yeah……that’s right as soon as those two achieved power they set themselves up in luxurious splendor just like every capitalist “exploiter of the proletariat” would have!

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  4. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Anyone who is dumb enough to get a face tattoo’s is dumb enough to do this, you cant fix stupid –
    “On a side note, there must have been a special episode of ‘Dumb Criminal Minds’ being filmed live as a person tried to shoplift a bunch of electronics right in front of about 10 cops,” the Facebook post read. “They didn’t get far. DON’T TAKE WHAT IS NOT YOURS, it’s a simple rule that everyone should abide by and the world would be a better place.”
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/michigan-women-accused-of-stealing-at-target-during-shop-with-a-cop-event
    😉

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Wonder what the punch drunk one would do if forced to perform at a bash celebrating Hilter’s birthday….or else. I just called a Muslim baker about 80 miles away and ordered a delicious double decker cake wrapped with bacon and a little cute plastic pig on top.
    ——-
    “Blue on the outside, pink on the inside”. Hmmm. Sounds like somebody froze their nuts off.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/39608/two-female-christian-artists-could-be-jailed-not-hank-berrien?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand
    Resistance is futile! Comply or die. Surrender Dorthoy!

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Make that the 24th Amendment. Too hip, gotta go.

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  7. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    As we can again confirm and appreciate from the above, our Left does not like even the mention of an obvious discriminant between the makers and takers. BTW, every modern society has such a population division, and not every taker is an unworthy recipient per se. The problem is where do we place the discriminant and for what purpose. The Right, correctly IMHO, has the Left placing it too generously for the simple yet effective reason that it buys votes without having to explain the totality of progressive social philosophy to the recipients.

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Another wonderful outcome from our public school educations with a typically left slant –
    “So, you’re unaware of the fact that nazi Germany had a wall called the Berlin Wall that was torn down in 1991 in order to foster humanity and diversity? Walls didn’t work for Nazis so why build them here? Build bridges not walls Nazi lover,” Talib Kweli said in response to another social media user.
    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/12/22/talib-kweli-nazi-germany-had-a-wall-called-the-berlin-wall/
    😉

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Don Bessee | 22 December 2018 at 01:18 PM
    Are you in any way even slightly surprised by the statements as offered by young Master Kweli?
    🦆

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    You are so dramatic. Do takers include government military contractors selling overpriced useless goods to support wars that are created for their profits? Haliburton for exmple. Cheney is their CEO, bcomes Vice President, is instrumental is the invasion of Iraq then supports them receiving 39 billions of taxpayers money to be hired killers. Are they takers?
    Here’s a look on what Cheney got out of the deal
    “Cheney resigned as CEO of Halliburton on July 25, 2000. As vice president, he argued that this step removed any conflict of interest. Cheney’s net worth, estimated to be between $30 million and $100 million, is largely derived from his post at Halliburton, as well as the Cheneys’ gross income of nearly $8.82 million.”

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  11. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 22 December 2018 at 01:38 PM
    You are so dramatic……..
    Again, self awareness doesn’t seem to concern you at all…..

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  12. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Paul is back in his Wayback machine. You going to start yapping about all the “free oil” we were supposed to have received?
    How bout all those proprietary machines and goods Halliburton had?
    They were just to fork them over for some deadwood outfit to try and use… Right?
    But Hilary’s pay for play “donation” gig was just fine.(Nope,, you NEVER dare go there.)

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  13. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Another wonderful example of the pony tail of ignorance. The late President Bush worked at Haliburton before they were Haliburton. “39 billions of taxpaers money to be hired killers.”
    Halliburton Company is an American multinational corporation. One of the world’s largest oil field service companies, it has operations in more than 70 countries.[6] It owns hundreds of subsidiaries, affiliates, branches, brands, and divisions worldwide and employs approximately 55,000 people.
    The company has dual headquarters located in Houston and in Dubai, and it remains incorporated in the United States.
    Halliburton’s major business segment is the Energy Services Group (ESG). It offers a broad array of products and services to upstream oil and gas customers worldwide through fourteen product service lines: Artificial Lift, Cementing, Completion Tools, Multi-Chem, Pipeline & Process Services, Production Enhancement, Production Solutions, Baroid, Drill Bits & Services, Landmark Software & Services, Sperry Drilling, Testing & Subsea, Wireline & Perforating, and Consulting & Project Management. Halliburton’s former subsidiary, KBR, is a major construction company of refineries, oil fields, pipelines, and chemical plants. Halliburton announced on April 5, 2007 that it had sold the division and severed its corporate relationship with KBR, which had been its contracting, engineering and construction unit as a part of the company.
    😉

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Don it’s okay to have a major involvement in the decision process of the government to support creating the need for the government to hire contractors to support your previous employers to the tune of 39 Billion. Cheney, of course, was as Vice President, one of the leading proponents of the Iraq invasion which led to Halliburton receiving their contract.

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Don you admit that Halliburton profited from the war that Cheney promoted.

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Didn’t vote for Hillary Walt. Did you vote for Bush Cheney?

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  17. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Wag that pony tail! Sorry for your narrative fail but that’s how it goes with talking points for leftists –
    A coalition of 35 countries, led by the United States, fought Iraq in the Gulf War from 1990–1991.
    Did Chaney make Sandam invade Kuwait, of course not?
    😉

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 22 December 2018 at 02:37 PM
    Didn’t vote for Hillary Walt. Did you vote for Bush Cheney?
    Plenty of democrats who you also didn’t vote for invested in and profited from the Iraq war…..how come we never hear about them?

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  19. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Bringing Christmas Back (sung to bringing sexy back)! We all know who the grinches are don’t we –
    A poll surveying the nation’s views of the holiday season finds Americans say the Christmas holidays are more fun now than in the past.
    According to the NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll, 58 percent say the holiday season is more fun than stressful this year, compared to 38 percent who say they experience more stress.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/22/more-americans-holiday-spirit-now-than-2010/
    Bringing Christmas back those muthas don’t know how to act!
    😉

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Resistance is futile. We will never let you go, never! Convert or die, Nazi scum.
    “At least one of these requests (for a cake celebrating Satan) was from the very same attorney (Scardina) who requested the pink and blue gender-transition cake”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/39555/colorado-christian-baker-court-again-time-its-over-hank-berrien?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand
    —————
    Oh yeah. Halliburton got the contract to make those new K-rations years ago. Improvised Food Devise or whatever they call them those fancy delights. And the last company I worked for was one slot ahead of Halliburton on the list of the top 100 gross revenue evil corporations in Colonist America. Top 50, barely. And they also were heavy Obama contributors back then, like #1 in the 2014 mid%terms. Had some bills before Congress. Important bills. Putin and T Rex are going to take over the world!
    Have you seen the friggin gigantic hardware Turkey ordered from us? Like a 145 fighters and a bunch of hardware goodies. Better us than the Chinese or somebody else. NATO alley. Money talks, bullpucky walks. Screw the Kurds. We will get their oil later, baahahahaah.
    Bell and Howell had their asses saved from bankruptcy when they got the Huey order. Classroom projectors and showing your vacation home made movies on a screen for your guests in your living room don’t sell like they used to. Fill the skies with Hueys.

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Can you name a couple that profited like Cheney fish and I’ll put them on my list.

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  22. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Again,, the braying jackass won’t say a peep about Hillary and THOSE millions.
    LIBS can fleece the public, and Paul is OK with that.. He only whines if a someone on the Right might have.
    Paul gets a Left sided kickstand for Christmas.
    I hope Halliburton gets the contact for the wall Paul hates.
    That should REALLY chap Paul’s ass.

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  23. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Paul.. Profit GOOD.. It’s what makes the world go round.

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  24. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “So Don you admit that Halliburton profited from the war that Cheney promoted.”
    Those classics just keep on comin’.
    As a non Bush/Cheney voter, I don’t have much of a dog in the fight, but I did look at some old HAL annual reports. Hopefully Cheney had his money in a Dow index fund since Halliburton has never increased a ton over time. In the Iraq war time frame, they were losing money (or barely squeaking even depending on your accounting principles), so being a war profiteer can’t be that hot a gig.
    The war was dumb as hell, but it’s hard to get excited about Cheney’s business ties (which he left in the year 2000). It obviously was much more profitable to simply influence peddle like the Clintons.

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  25. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    …as a side note, the thing that strikes me as sketchy about Cheney is not that he became VP while owning some HAL, but the way in which he became CEO of Halliburton.
    Twas ever thus. The revolving door plants ex .gov and ex .mil folks into companies that sell into both (or lobby them), that’s the big pay-off. The obvious answer is to grow the percentage of the economy that is government.

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  26. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    PaulE 138pm – Huh??? And what’s your point about Cheney, please spell it out.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    ‘Can you name a couple that profited like Cheney fish and I’ll put them on my list’
    Hand shoots up. I can, I can name one! Patrick Fitzgerald, the Special Prosecutor who went after DICK Cheney-‘The Brain’ Karl Rove-Cheney- Rumsfeld to get Dubba U Bush the War Criminal….and reached in and got a handful of Scotter Libby in a process charge of lying to the FBI ona process charge and, of course, lying to the FBI is obstruction of Justice, right Mc Cabe ( how only lied 4 times, 3 under oath). Anyway, Fitzgerald made out like a bandit.
    Hmmm. Then acting Attorney General James Comey appointed Fitzgerald, who now represents one Jamey Comey since was he fired in May, 2017. My, what a small world.
    “Comey was fired in the midst of an FBI investigation into whether anyone close to the president colluded with Russian intelligence agents to influence the 2016 presidential election.”
    Yep, they were trying to separate Karl the Brain Rove from dumb W and go through Cheney to get to Bush. Impeachment him. Try him for war crimes! They are all tied to Halliburton! For the shake of our democracy, stop it with the Industrial Militarized Special Prosecutor Complex!
    Do you know Al Gore served on the Board of Directors of Occidental Petroleum and the state Attorney General’s wife in Arkansas served on the Board of Walmart and sung in the local church choir with her husband Bill. She made killer chocolate chip cookies.
    https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343/1507182706082428/?type=3&source=48
    Come on. Barbara Boxer and Nancy threw Cindy Sheehan under the bus after they used her up and sucked her dry for their needs, then spit spit her out when they were done. Kinda like Stormy or Dr. Ford.
    Dems are always trying to get Republicans thrown out office by hook or crook and by any means necessary.
    Karl Rove. Hmm. Now let me see. Karl Rove and Steve Bannon where separated at birth.
    Now to get to Trump, Meuller must go after conservative conspiracy theorist (and 72 year old journalist) Dr. Jerome Corsi to tie Julian Assange to Roger Stone, to tie in to Steve Bannon straight to Trump. Aha. Trump knew! Trump knew where Hillary’s e-mails were in advance and he colluded with Russia who colluded Assange to leak Hillary’s e-mails to outright steal a Presidential Election. Illegimate! Illegimate! String Trump up on the nearest tree. A threat to our democracy!
    No, fair elections are a threat to their democracy.

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Here Scenes. You like this kind of stuff. Off thread, but this is the Sandbox. I
    http://digg.com/video/top-10-countries-by-gdp-1960-2017

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So George, Cheney leaves his post as head of Halliburton, becomes Vice President and promotes the war in Iraq that his ex company profits exploits to the tune of 39 Billion, yes that’s Billion dollars paid by the taxpayers or added to the national debt.Just a co-incidence right? As you recall Cheney was one of the inventors of the bogus reasons for the war in Iraq.
    So is Halliburton and Cheney a makers or a takers George?

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  30. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “So is Halliburton and Cheney a makers or a takers George?”
    I’d say that Halliburton is something of a maker, and Cheney is a taker. Quickly ramping up a logistics operation is always going to be wasteful, especially in a place that runs on graft. Iraq represented a bit over a quarter of Halliburton sales in the era under question.
    The thing is, he mostly took from Halliburton. As I remember,he was brought in as a rainmaker (with no experience running a company) and did an average-at-best job.
    A quick googling tells me that he sold the majority of his stock in 2000 and then sold most of what remained in 2005….and gave it to a medical organization that he founded. I’m still hunting for a full list of the transactions rather than sleazing out with ‘news’ sites.
    Dunno why he had a heart transplant, I figure he kept it in a jar on his desk.

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  31. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Snowflake insanity winners for 2018 –
    A theology professor at a Catholic college is making some bizarre – some would even say blasphemous – claims about Jesus Christ that is causing a stir on campus.
    Dr. Tat-siong Benny Liew, chair of New Testament Studies at the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Mass., said Jesus was a “drag king” who had “queer desires.” He also claims the Last Supper was a “literary striptease” and that Jesus was not a man, but gender fluid.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/craziest-campus-meltdowns-professorial-rants-from-2018
    😉

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  32. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Well Paul, NO crime must be the way it is. He’s a free man. and no charges ever filed. Yet here you are wasting everyone’s time.
    So just WTF is this “look over here” crap tonight?
    Trump just might win this battle? Schumer shutdown 2.5 may come back to bite you Proggys in the ass? Whiny Schumer thinks HE’S the dictator now. What HE says goes! (Just when was he elected President?)
    Nope, you don’t want to go there. Your better off making a buy at the new dope shop.

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  33. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    PaulE 803pm – Now you’ll explain how Cheney profited from the decision to go to war after he left Halliburton, AND after the 9/11 attacks (which he and Halliburton may have then secretly planned just for giggles).

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Isn’t there a new movie out about Dick Cheney. Heard it sucked almost as bad as Michael Moore’s latest flop. Don’t know anyone would want to run out and see either one of those when we have our own hate 24/7 on Trump and BDS just under the skin with Cheney is Satan live on this blog to entertain us.
    Hey, Dick done shot a Republican Lawyer in the buttocks and they can’t even give the man a thumbs up. No pleasing some folks, I reckon.
    Do you know why Halliburton was given no bid contracts in Iraq after 9/11? I do. Scenes touched on it on his 8:46 pm. Think, think, think. Halliburton is like its own mutual fund and is ready to roll on big jobs handling everything from A to Z.
    But, I like the duck huting story the best. Cheney had a double and then a triple by-pass. Just a simple fly fisherman from Wyoming. Country boy. Humble fellow.

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  35. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The problem with the TDS set is it ends up in blow back, one TDS victims blood forest is a normal persons cranberry tree!
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/melania-trumps-red-topiary-trees-hit-christmas-parties-051444281–politics.html
    😉

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So George you have no problem with a former employee who becomes a public servant using his massive influence to steer 39 billion dollars their way by aiding the creation of a war that should have never been fought. Really …

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  37. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    PaulE 1111pm – Now there’s a conspiracy theory equal to FDR’s goading 7dec41 to save the economy and his legacy.

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  38. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    GeorgeR: “Now you’ll explain how Cheney profited from the decision to go to war after he left Halliburton, AND after the 9/11 attacks ”
    That’s a thing I was wondering. It’s not an answer I’ve run into yet. A secondary question is to answer who should have run a logistics operation if not HAL.
    As I mentioned before, the sketchier thing was leaving government and starting to run a major company while having no experience in that business or large businesses generally. It certainly isn’t a new phenomena though and exists at all levels, from flag officers moving to an office at Lockheed-Martin to county supervisors moving to non-profits.

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  39. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Still hunting for Cheney war profiteering. The HAL annual reports didn’t turn up much so I went hunting for Cheney tax returns.
    To date, all I’ve found are pre 9/11 options sales, and that big chunk of options which was sold and given to charity.
    It’s funny how things that are common knowledge aren’t so. I’d love to see any original documents that show something different…ie. not the crack KVMR news desk’s use of Dailykos or something similar.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dick Cheney and Hal:
    The only objection I raise is the punch drunk one’s constant reference or insinuation to 38 billion and profit as if Halliburton profited the 38 billion…. or is it 39 billion? Gross revenue (sales) does not equate to net profit, usually not even close.
    Iraq was a mess after we gave them a taste of good ole Yankee know how. Their banking system was destroyed and we literally had trucks loaded with cash driving round passing it out. Lots of room from waste, fraud and abuse.
    This thread does not have anyrhing to do with the new Cheney movie “Vice” that just came out, would it? Would it, Wally?
    Vice: Because Nothing Screams “Holiday Movie” Like Dick Cheney!

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  41. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Just think Paul, Cheney got away with attempted murder! Not one charge for that shotgun job. Call a cop!

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  42. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Will Paul be scalping tickets again? Kinda like when he was singing the praises of Mikey Moore’s last flop.
    Yaa,,, Paul,, care to define “sold out”? Your hero LIED!!! He said he would move to Canada if his flick stunk on ice.

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I stand corrected Bill thanks. what I meant to clearly communicate is that they received 39 Billion dollars of taxpayers hard earned money fighting a fake war promoted by the Vice President who was their former CEO. Not profit Thanks Bill .

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  44. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Readers all, rejoice that right here on little ol’ RR we are a daily witness to the national progressive perspective on all things considered. We see what they believe and how they think/reason without having to travel afar. The glory of connectivity and the internet.

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  45. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    The left’s problem with Cheney is the same problem they have with Trump: Two guys who know how to get stuff done without asking permission from the political and press elites.

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Tell me Russ, what did Cheney “get done” other than get us into a four Trillion dollar fake war in Iraq?

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  47. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Paul has a new malady….CDS. To match his BDS, and TDS.
    Still waiting for the FEDS Paul.. I guess I have to wait my turn for my number to come up. You must have gave the F.B.I a Yug list of nefarious Trump supporters who you suspect of protecting the U.S. of A.

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  48. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    And a “fake war”? It sure was pretty real for everyone else Paul,,
    I guess my Son’s four tours were just a cover story for a real good party.
    Can you give us a count on how many supertankers of free oil showed up at our refineries?

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  49. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Things get better and better..
    Now SCOTUS holds secret rulings?
    https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/23/robert-mueller-supreme-court/
    “One of the few documents made public in the case was released on Dec. 18, when the corporation lost its appeal of a lower court ruling requiring their compliance with the subpoena.
    The corporation argued it was immune to U.S. subpoenas under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act, since their firm is owned by a foreign government. They also sought relief under a federal rule allowing courts to suppress subpoenas if compliance would be “unreasonable or oppressive.” In this instance, the company argued their compliance with the subpoena would violate the domestic law of their home country.”
    It’s Putin.. Right Paul? Trump must have made him a promise that he broke…. Right?

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  50. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    It was a fake war Walt because there was no reason for it. Terrible tragedy to the Americans and folks of Iraq that died as a result of it.

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